Rep. Moskowitz Discusses Trump's Failed Epstein Cover-Up

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1:24Jared Moskowitz:I'm R.J.

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2:16Ben Meiselas:Thank you for 30 amazing years. Shop the anniversary sale now through March 11th and get up to 50 % off sitewide at Blinds.com. Donald Trump is losing his base. The MAGA podcasters are running for the hill. You don't get much more MAGA than Liz Wheeler. How MAGA is Liz Wheeler? She was one of the people who showed up at the White House back in February and held up the Epstein Files binder. and she goes, I've got the Epstein files exclusive. She held it up with all those other influencers showing what they got. And now here's what she posted. Pam Bondi's testimony was a total disaster. In one exchange, Congressman Jerry Nadler asked Bondi some very straightforward questions.

2:58Ben Meiselas:How many of Epstein's co-conspirators have you indicted? How many perpetrators are you even investigating? And in response, Bondi lost it. I didn't hear any number. I didn't hear any explanation. All I heard was a raised tone of voice, hurled insults, a flustered demeanor, and filibustering. And she goes, I don't think the Democrats were acting in good faith, whatever. But she goes, but Bondi's catastrophic showing yesterday and her entire handling of the Epstein files for the last year are exactly what not to do as attorney general. You were literally there holding the binder. You were one of the people she had back in February.

3:35Ben Meiselas:And by the way, here is what Liz Wheeler said on her podcast the other day. Let's play it. Jamie Raskin jumps in and says, I told you attorney general beforehand, not to filibuster. And Pam Bondi then responds very combatively. You don't tell me things you washed up. And then whether she's talking to Raskin, whether she's back to talking to Nadler, she says, you're not even a lawyer. I mean, you want to talk about theatrics here. Here's the thing. She goes,

4:01Jared Moskowitz:you don't like my answer.

4:03Ben Meiselas:Then you have, here's what Joe Rogan had to say. let's play it so we know sultan ahmed bin sulyam sulyam sent the torture video to epstein this is in 2009 um so epstein was saying that where are you are you okay i love the torture video i am in china i'll be in the u.s second week of may what the fuck man and why is his name redacted why would your name be redacted if you're not a victim like this is what's crazy about all this andrew schultz let's play it so now that we know that everybody from trump patel bondi bonjino like everybody that was involved in this ah this is just a hoax we don't have anything like they're all on record saying versions of this right with the latest tranche all of that is a lie.

5:00Ben Meiselas:Yes. Right. Has it been proven effectively that is a complete falsehood? What exactly is a falsehood?

5:07Jared Moskowitz:The statements that this is just a Democrat hoax and this is I don't even know what that means.

5:13Ben Meiselas:Then you have the Tommy Lawrence podcast and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Let's play it. We have the leader of our party and our president attacking Taylor Swift, their favorite artist. that's not very good um it's things like that that are ridiculous like okay i want to show you one of my favorite parts of the bondi hearing though it was moskowitz's question of bondi

5:37Jared Moskowitz:let's just play that now i'm at a return jail i have like 25 seconds left so because i'm curious uh and i just i'd like to see you flip to the jared moskowitz section of the binder i'm interested to see what staff provided on the on the oppo on me and because we're in the olympics i'm going to give it a grade. I just want to see how good it is. So give me your best one.

5:58Ben Meiselas:So first of all, nothing is funny about mocking the Bible and holding up a Trump Bible. That's what you did. You made a joke and I find offense to that.

6:07Jared Moskowitz:That's all I have to say. I want it from the Bernberg. I want it from the Bernberg, which is the best one. What you got? Has expired. The gentleman from Wisconsin's recognition.

6:16Ben Meiselas:Thank you. I want to bring in right now, Congress member Jared Moskowitz. Congressman, It's great to see you. I showed you these videos of all these right-wing podcasters who were like, even they can't cover this up anymore. Your questioning of Bondi was incredible. Just if you can walk us through first, though, just your questioning what you observed there. Like, what's your perspective being in that room?

6:41Jared Moskowitz:Well, first of all, I have a different take than a lot of people, Ben. I actually think it went very well for her. I mean, don't you? You don't think it didn't. I thought it went well. No.

6:52Ben Meiselas:Look, I think that if she was positioning herself for secretary of state or Department of Defense, it's a good. She's definitely next in line to the Peter principle. Yeah.

7:04Jared Moskowitz:I mean, listen, we saw this week. Perhaps she was spending time with Secretary Kennedy and boosting her immune system by, you know, snorting cocaine off a toilet seat like Kennedy did in order to make sure he doesn't get any germs. I have no idea what that hearing was. I mean, she obviously came in with a tactic. And maybe it would have worked sparingly here and there. But, you know, to ask every Republican for 20 seconds to respond to the Democrat, and then they didn't respond. They just read from the burn book. That's why I was like, she doesn't need to yield 20 seconds or ask for 20 seconds from one of my colleagues.

7:44Jared Moskowitz:I'll give her 20 seconds of my time. Like, let's do it. Like, let's hear the stuff from from the burn book. I don't think it worked for her. You know, I think the American people wanted to hear some answers on Epstein, at least some answers on Epstein. Right. I mean, she could have just defended the president, which we would have expected because it's an audience of one. And then said, look, these other people, we're going to relook at this stuff. We're going to relook at these co-conspirators. We're going to relook at these unredacted names. We're going to relook at these photos. And if there's enough evidence, we're going to prosecute.

8:22Jared Moskowitz:And she could have blamed Merrick Garland and all that other stuff. But you're the attorney general now. Like start attorney generaling, you know, and it didn't. And only it worked because she provided no answers. And it just looked like she was providing cover. Now, what we don't know, of course, is what were her instructions? Perhaps she was put into a box in fairness to her for a second. And maybe the president said, this is what you do. This is what you're going to do. We don't know that. Right. We don't know if that was her strategy or that was a strategy given to her or what what she's allowed to do.

8:54Jared Moskowitz:I mean, let's not pretend for a second that the attorney general's office, the Department of Justice in this administration is a separate arm of the executive branch doing what they think is right. No, they're doing what they're told to do. I mean, the president, you know, thinks he's sending a DM to the attorney general. Right. And he's putting it on true social, his instructions on on what to do. I mean, the latest one, obviously, is they're trying to indict, you know, two senators and four House members for freedom of speech. You know, we got, you know, box wine aficionado Jeanine Pirro, you know, leading that whole thing.

9:33Jared Moskowitz:And thankfully, they didn't get the grand jury to indict them because there's no evidence, by the way. But but the rumor is they're trying again. So it's it's it's crazy times. We're living in the upside down. And but real damage is being done to our institutions, to Congress, long term damage being done to the Article one branch of government and the American people are suffering through all of this. So, you know, one year down, Ben, three more to go.

10:03Ben Meiselas:No, Janine Pirro just filed a$250 ,000 slip and fall case in New York. And I wonder if the wine box connoisseur aspect of it will become a defense by the city. I believe it's a slip and fall case.

10:20Jared Moskowitz:Was she carrying it at the time? Ben, those things can be heavy, right? So if she was carrying it, she might've been like a little off kilter.

10:27Ben Meiselas:You know, we'll see if the defense sends a private investigator to track that down. You've been able to get accessed, I believe, to that DOJ special secure facility where they have the unredacted files, which are actually still redacted and which should have been produced. What was that experience like and what can you share?

10:49Jared Moskowitz:So you get to one of the Department of Justice buildings, you go through security. And originally, we were allowed to bring a staff member with us up to the 10th floor. You get to the 10th floor. There's nobody on the 10th floor. All the offices, all the cubicles are empty. They put our staff member in an office. By the way, they later changed that policy later on during the day that we were no longer allowed to bring a staff member. But anyways, you get in a room. There are four computers. They log you in with a separate login for each congressman. So that was obviously peculiar. These weren't just terminals that were open for us.

11:25Jared Moskowitz:Everyone had a specific login with a specific password. Why would we need that? And so we now know, obviously, because they were tracking our search history, which isn't fine. Like, you know, you can look at what we're looking at. In fact, the American people want to know this. It's not a secret. So it's not embarrassing to track us should have just told us, you know, like our queries are, you know, you're going to be able to see our queries. I figured they would. but anyways you sit down they log you in and it's you know 2.7 million documents they're not organized in any specific way you can't really find anything the names of the documents are all you know file http dash whatever you know so the only real way to do it is to go to the redacted files figure out what that batch number is for that file and then go find it in the unredacted files.

12:16Jared Moskowitz:The system they have has a 25-page manual sitting next to you on the desk just in case you need help on figuring out how to use the system. And so that's what we did. We went in with batch numbers to look for documents. And originally, the staff was like, what are you doing? You can't do that. It's like, what do you mean you can't do that? Otherwise, how do you find stuff? And so, look, that's how a lot of us were able to read what's in the files. Ben, I can tell you It's beyond disgusting what's in the files. A worldwide sex trafficking ring. Epstein was getting girls from Poland and Russia and Czech.

12:53Jared Moskowitz:Paris modeling agencies were sending him girls. He had a relationship with a summer camp. He was grooming 14-year-olds at a picnic table. Obviously, this was for him and for others. This wasn't just for him. And we know that, right? Because there are photos now. There are emails with unredacted names. There are co-conspirators. And so, you know, after a year of the American people pounding the table and Congress on an almost completely bipartisan basis, every member of the House except one and the entire Senate forcing the administration to release these files were finally starting to make headway for the victims.

13:27Ben Meiselas:You know, I did a video on Friday where I went through prime ministers of foreign countries who are now being criminally investigated or charged national security advisors, business leaders, you know, resigning or being investigated. And what just strikes me is, you know, here in the United States, when you're confronted with things like, you know, Howard Lutnick bringing children, you know, to the island after Lutnick says, I knew Epstein was a bad guy. I never saw him again because I knew what he was up to. So I got out of there. And you bring your children.

14:03Jared Moskowitz:What he said is I knew he was blackmailing people. He was the world's greatest blackmailer. So I decided I would go have lunch with him on his island.

14:10Ben Meiselas:On the island. And then Trump is asked about it. Well, what do you make about that? And Donald's like, I heard he brought his children. And it's like, yeah, that's that's the issue. Like, that's the problem. And, you know, I don't know the right words to capture it, like demented, like, like it is a parody of a parody. But these are the people who are who are who are in charge right now. And in a bit, I want to talk about just some other aspects.

14:37Jared Moskowitz:But also, Ben, it was the lie that was told, right? Now he lied, or he's backtracking, or he had his recollection, his memory recalled by the documents. But I mean, why not just tell people in advance? Because now that's where the problem is. It's the same thing for Kash Patel. I mean, Cash under oath said his name was in the documents less than 100 times. Either Cash didn't know the real answer, okay, and spoke too soon, or he was lying. Because obviously Donald Trump's name is in there tens of thousands of times, not less than 100 times. Cash also said under oath that there was nobody else that were getting girls trafficked to them but Epstein.

15:24Jared Moskowitz:It was all for Epstein. Nobody else. Well, we know that's not true. So either he didn't know or that was a lie. And so like that's where now, you know, as we move forward and maybe they thought the documents would never come out, you know, but but at the end of the day, that's now where, OK, now there's more threads to pull because now they they said one thing and now it's clear that the truth is different.

15:48Ben Meiselas:Probably saw the new reporting on Kristi Noem, how they would like fire pilots when she would be out with Lewandowski, if they would like leave her blankie behind.