Rep. Moulton Responds to Trump’s Disaster Policies and Weakness

25 Sep 2025 · 22 min · 7 chapters

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In short

The episode criticizes Donald Trump’s United Nations speech and broader foreign-policy and domestic actions, arguing they reflect “weakness,” misinformation, and constitutional violations. It also attacks Republican media “sane-washing” of the speech and highlights alleged misconduct: Tom Homan taking $50,000 cash at the border, Trump pressuring prosecutors to target political opponents, and firing/replacing a Virginia prosecutor with Lindsay Halligan.

Key claims

“peace through strength” is actually appeasement; Trump’s social-media “death videos” and strikes are unlawful; Republicans privately know Trump lies but publicly defend him; censorship efforts will be resisted.

Notable examples

Tylenol medical disinformation; Trump calling out countries at the UN; audio glitches during Fox coverage; NATO response to drone attacks; Homan cash in a Cava bag; Trump’s prosecutor letter naming Schiff/Letitia James/Comey.

Guests

Rep. Seth Moulton, Democratic U.S. Representative and Marine veteran; no other guest is clearly identified beyond the hosts/commentators.

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Chapters

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Trump's Bizarre Presidential Moments

0:42 to 1:54

Discussing Trump's recent actions and speeches that drew public ridicule.

“Trump, the greatest real estate developer ever, was going to buy this plot of land.”

Seth Moulton's Insights on Trump's Policies

1:54 to 4:32

Congress member Seth Moulton shares his views on Trump's foreign policy and its implications.

“Obviously, straight talk from the president.”

Critique of Republican Responses to Trump

4:32 to 7:18

Examining how Republicans react to Trump's weak foreign policy and their internal conflicts.

“Congress member Moulton, it's great to see you right there.”

Corruption and Accountability in the Trump Administration

7:18 to 13:26

Discussing corruption allegations involving Trump's border czar and the lack of accountability.

“They say this behind the scenes, in the locker room, in classified meetings that we hold on the Armed Services Committee.”

Censorship and the Importance of Standing Up

13:26 to 14:02

The hosts emphasize the need for resistance against censorship and the importance of accountability.

“think that when Democrats or when people push and push, you do see, though, finally they get into some, you know, they hit the wall eventually.”

Trump's Impact on Democracy and National Security

14:02 to 17:41

Discussion about Trump's policies and their implications for democracy and security.

“files, it gets to the conclusion, it's a hoax, it's a hoax.”

Personal Reflection on Parenthood and Politics

17:41 to 18:12

A congressman's personal thoughts on raising children in a politically charged environment.

“And just sitting here, not just as a congressman, not just as a Marine vet, not just as someone who sits on the Armed Services Committee, but sitting here as a dad, that makes me worried.”
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0:46Ben Meiselas:Well, the MAGA Republicans are out in full force and effect trying to justify what may have been the most bizarre 72 hours in presidential history, whether it was Donald Trump turning the Kirk Memorial into like a political hate rally or Donald Trump going from the Oval Office and talking about how pregnant women shouldn't take Tylenol and spreading a bunch of other medical disinformation to Donald Trump at the United Nations, speaking to everybody and telling everybody how their countries are horrible and speaking as Donald J. Trump, the greatest real estate developer ever, was going to buy this plot of land.

1:23Ben Meiselas:Then he just started calling out countries and saying, you have a bad mayor. The whole thing was just so utterly humiliating. People were laughing in his face. But according to the Senate majority leader Thune, Donald, this was the greatest speech. This was up there with the greats. Just watch how Fox tries to not just sane wash this, but sell their audience that this is a golden era, the greatest speech. This is worse than North Korea stuff. Let's play it. First off, what are your thoughts on what you've heard from President Trump at the U.N. so far today?

2:00Seth Moulton:Well, thanks, Sandra. Obviously, straight talk from the president. He does it. He puts out the unvarnished truth. And I think the thing that he makes clear in all these discussions that relate to foreign policy, national security, is that he's restoring peace through strength. strength and the president knows full well that it is not our strength that tempts our adversaries,

2:20Ben Meiselas:it's our weakness. You know, then the instant karma that he gets is that he kept having audio issues. I don't know if y 'all remember that Bill O 'Reilly moment where Bill O 'Reilly starts like yelling at his team and he's like, F it, we'll do it live. After just saying absolutely what didn't happen at that speech, watch what happens to these audio issues that Thune has. Let's play. But I'm pretty good at this stuff. He did use that moment to tout to the world what he has been able to do with our border and immigration.

2:52Ben Meiselas:OK, we appear to still be having those audio issues. Let me throw. OK, then it happens one more time. It happens again. I kept that happening, but I'll show you one more. Senator, jump on in here. Oh, he just played sound of President Trump. I moved from immigration to President Trump calling out those who recognize the Palestinian state. Your reaction to his remarks on that this morning?

3:16Seth Moulton:All right, we're done.

3:18Ben Meiselas:OK, all right. We tried again. John, I think we're going to leave it there. That's so good. Then Harrison Faulkner had to say that Trump's speech was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Let's play it.

3:28Seth Moulton:President Trump has been speaking at the United Nations General Assembly in New York City. He unfurled raw truth to countries in attendance there and to the rest of the world. And moments from now, the president is set to hold a meeting with the U.N. Secretary General.

3:47Ben Meiselas:He unfurled truth. It was the worst. It's objectively, I don't care what political party you're from, the worst speech imaginable. But by the way, it's not just on Fox. If you look at CNBC. I mean, the chyron that they were running today is Tylenol claims face pushback. And just normalizing this language of Tylenol claims, what do you mean? Donald Trump spewing the most deranged, incorrect medical conspiracies out there, but it faces pushback, everybody. I think this is one of the big problems that we face, especially as the right wing now wants to just totally abolish free speech. There's a reason why the First Amendment is first.

4:28Ben Meiselas:But anyway, let's bring in Democratic Congress member Seth Moulton. Congress member Moulton, it's great to see you right there. It's beyond kind of cringy to see that. Objectively, it was like just, I don't care what political party you're from. It was the worst speech, yet they just engage in this exercise. And it's not unique to Fox of not just sane washing it, but acting like what we saw was normal. And it just ain't. We got to call it out. What do you think?

4:56Seth Moulton:It really is like North Korea. It's so bad that they feel that they just have to turn it into propaganda and make it into something that's completely divorced from reality. The word that struck me was how they talked about peace through strength. Well, just about every Republican I know in Washington who's still sane is really concerned that we're just giving in to China, that we're giving in to Russia, that the only thing that Trump is doing in foreign policy is attacking random boats off of Venezuela because he just wants to distract attention from the real big problems around the world. That's total weakness.

5:40Seth Moulton:That's complete weakness. And I hear that not just from fellow Democrats, but from Republicans. So they've got a lot of stuff to clean up here with this president on Fox News. And I don't know that there should be a contest for the network that has the best propaganda because they'd be Fox would be in the running with RT over there in Moscow and whatever state media organization runs the runs the propaganda stream in North Korea.

6:11Ben Meiselas:You know, it's a very interesting perspective you gave there speaking to some of the, I guess, remaining sane Republicans who may not admit to being as such on live TV, but who behind the scenes you're talking to the perspective that these kinetic strikes that Trump keeps posting that these like ISIS style death videos, right, that he's posting on his personal social media account of these 24 feet fishing boats getting blown up by the United States military. Like, okay, we know we have the capabilities that we want to blow up 24 feet fishing boats. And he brags and he boasts. But it's an interesting perspective that when you're a Marine vet, you know, these, you know, foreign affairs, foreign policy is your forte.

6:53Ben Meiselas:And others, though, who are talking about these issues with a degree of seriousness in the House and the Republican side view what Trump's doing there as actually part of his way to say, see, I'm blowing things up while ignore, that's the play to ignore China, to ignore Ukraine and Russia's unlawful invasion, to not address Gaza, to just leave that and go, I blew up another boat today, everybody. Interesting perspective. And look, let's be clear.

7:21Seth Moulton:These Republicans are total cowards. They say this behind the scenes, in the locker room, in classified meetings that we hold on the Armed Services Committee. But then, you know, they sound like John Thune there when they get on TV in public. But guess what? Like we have laws and treaties that prevent you from just blowing up boats in the middle of the ocean. And there are military officers today who are very concerned that they're going to be investigated down the road for pulling the trigger on these operations that are absolutely unlawful. Meanwhile, over in Europe, we have this thing called NATO with treaties and laws that say that if a NATO country is attacked by Russia, we all respond.

8:06Seth Moulton:And what happened when Putin sent dozens of drones into Poland? Well, Poland responded and Finland and Germany. And what did Trump do? He made excuses for Vladimir. He's like, oh, well, you know, it was probably a mistake. that's not strength, Mr. President. That's weakness. Weakness in the face of one of the greatest adversaries America has ever known.

8:33Ben Meiselas:And then via social media, he'll make these erratic posts when he'll say, Venezuela, if you don't take everybody back from the insane asylums, because he believes asylum seekers are insane asylums. You don't even know what's going to happen to you. The worst thing's going to happen to you. And then he'll make social media posts. I mean, what he did, he did Mignansky Act sanctions against the Supreme Court's wife in Brazil, you know, because they found Jair Bolsonaro, an insurrectionist president, they are guilty and their Supreme Court actually upheld the law. And it's just these erratic social media people bailing out Argentina while Mignanskiak sanctioning whatever.

9:22Ben Meiselas:And then, again, just doing nothing to Russia. There's nothing. There's no strand here. Craziness.

9:31Seth Moulton:I mean, the next thing you know, he's going to be threatening the Venezuelans with feeding them Tylenol.

9:39Ben Meiselas:But here's the thing. If he announced that, Senator Thune and your Republican colleagues would go and say, look, brilliant. That's four dimensional. That's four dimensional chess. They're flooding the zone. I got to talk about a few other topics. I want to talk about this fifty thousand dollars in cash that the border czar Tom Homan took. He didn't deny it when he did this Fox interview. He just claimed what he did was not illegal. Fifty thousand dollars cash in a Cava, like a food bag from one of these like fast food Mediterranean restaurants. Yeah. You know, according to Republicans, they're OK with that.

10:16Ben Meiselas:That's normal. Maybe maybe he thought it was a chicken shawarma bowl.

10:20Seth Moulton:And he opened up the bag and, you know, well, it's fifty thousand dollars in cash. But Cava doesn't accept returns. I mean, this guy is in law enforcement. He's supposed to be in charge of border enforcement for the entire country. He's got to come clean. But with this administration, you know, they're so tough on crime, except that when the criminal is working for them, that seems to be the problem.

10:47Ben Meiselas:Talk about Trump's, you know, the letter that he sent. It looked like he was sending a direct message where he goes, Pam, Pam, I need you to prosecute my political opponents. I want you to go after Schiff, Letitia James, and I want you to go after James Comey. And then he fires the Eastern District Attorney in Virginia, replaces it with his personal attorney, Lindsay Halligan. She was the one who said we need to stop talking about too much slavery in the Smithsonian's. And now she's the Eastern District Attorney. I don't even know how these, how are there even federal prosecutors anymore? We'll work with you.

11:28Ben Meiselas:Habba, her, you know, you know, the guy in Central District, California.

11:32Seth Moulton:It's insane. And let's be clear. Hey, Attorney General, go prosecute my political enemies who independent prosecutors have said are not guilty. Like they don't have a case against them, but do not prosecute my border czar for taking a bag of fifty thousand dollars worth of cash. I mean, this is also just a case of like the same playbook, different crime. And this administration needs to just be transparent. So release the Epstein files, release the Hohman tapes. If Hohman is innocent, then just release the recording of what he said when he took this bag of cash. You know, did he say thanks for the chicken shawarma or did he actually think there was cash in the bag?

12:19Seth Moulton:I mean, I'm joking, obviously, but like, come on, like, just come clean. It's so absurd. You kind of have to sit here and laugh about it, except that this is deadly serious when it comes to people's lives, the lives that Trump is trying to ruin. You know, you just wait for you and me to be next. He goes after us because we're saying things in social media or on TV or wherever else that he doesn't like. And here comes the, you know, here comes the enforcer. The Gestapo comes down to say, you're not allowed to say that. We're going to cancel you. Maybe he tries to send some prosecutor. Maybe Pam Bondi is going to be giving you and me a call to look into our mortgages or whatever else to try to come up with some crime.

13:05Seth Moulton:just because this is the way that he goes after his political enemies, like communist dictators. I mean, it's absurd. And we didn't even see this in the Nixon administration. It's never been this bad.

13:19Ben Meiselas:It's this constant cover up. I mean, as we see with the Epstein files, you know, but I do think that when Democrats or when people push and push, you do see, though, finally they get into some, you know, they hit the wall eventually. And this is why I think people need to be aggressive and not let him get away with it. Because when you hold him accountable, for example, like Ukraine and Russia, then Donald Trump says, yeah, I didn't really mean peace in 24 hours. It was just a joke. And it was just being sarcastic. Like at that point, there's really nothing else you can say to him where he says, I was joking and being sarcastic.

13:57Ben Meiselas:So you kind of know, okay, everybody, you tell your colleagues, he was joking and being sarcastic. On the Epstein files, it gets to the conclusion, it's a hoax, it's a hoax. That's where this ends with Homan. It's a democratic hoax, it's a witch hunt. So just everything out there is a hoax. His approval is plummeting. It's just wild though that there's a lack of moral clarity on the Republican side, like this still could, and it can still exist when it's so blatant.

14:25Seth Moulton:No, I know. I mean, it's so pathetic and they really are just cowards. Like they're not dumb. A few of them are, but most of them are just total cowards. They know the truth. They know what's going on. They know this guy lies through his teeth and violates the constitution every single hour. And, and yet they're just so scared of them. They, they won't do anything, but you said something really important, which is that it matters when people stand up. It matters when people push back. I think that's why Jimmy Kimmel is back on the air, you know, because what he did was just blatant censorship, something that is not consistent with our Constitution and the First Amendment.

15:03Seth Moulton:But there was enough pushback. And I'll admit, even some pushback from fellow Republicans. I'm going to make history for the first time in my life, at least, of complimenting Ted Cruz, because he actually spoke up in the Senate and said that was wrong. So Kimmel's back on the air because the American people can't be silenced. And we've got to remember that. He'll try to silence us. He'll try to cancel us. He'll try to literally throw people in prison that he disagrees with. But he's not going to just silence the American people. We've got to continue standing up and fighting back. It makes a difference.

15:40Ben Meiselas:And Congressman, before we go, I always like to ask this question because, you know, you're seeing things that I'm not seeing. And we've got six million subscribers here. So are there issues that you're either focused on right now or concerned on that you think, you know, with what all these shows and podcasts are covering, but is just getting is not getting enough attention? And that you've said, look, we really got to be focused on X, Y and Z. Anything that comes to your mind that you just want our people to know?

16:07Seth Moulton:I mean, look, this isn't what people are talking about, because Trump is shredding the Constitution before our eyes right here at home. But I got two little girls, four and six. And I think we're going to make it through this. It's going to be really tough. But I think we're going to get through this. I think we're going to win the midterms. I think we're going to get a much better Democratic president in 2028. And by the time they're a little bit older, you know, we're going to work hard to make sure America is back to normal and moving forward. But the one thing that would just devastate their lives is if we got in a war.

16:41Seth Moulton:And I think too often we don't talk about the risk that Donald Trump is putting us in with his completely incompetent and erratic secretary of defense, someone who's literally aiding the enemy by disclosing classified information on a daily basis. And the weakness that this team shows to China and Russia, there were no drone incursions into NATO countries under Biden. There was no appeasement of Putin under Biden. There were actually restrictions on the chips that China could buy, so they can't beat us in AI under Biden. Those restrictions were actually started in the first Trump administration.

17:22Seth Moulton:Donald has one meeting with the CEO of NVIDIA, and they're all out the window because he wants to make a buck. He probably got promised some purchases of his beam coin or whatever. So the level of corruption in this administration is super dangerous back home, but it could literally lead us into a war overseas. And just sitting here, not just as a congressman, not just as a Marine vet, not just as someone who sits on the Armed Services Committee, but sitting here as a dad, that makes me worried.

17:53Ben Meiselas:No, it's my daughter's first birthday today. We're about to go to the zoo. And when I look at her, I'm kind of grateful that she doesn't know. And, you know, fully that is her one year old birthday, the same way she doesn't know that what Trump is doing. you know and I hope that when she is old enough to start processing you know a lot of these more deeper memories it's a better America so I share that with you and thanks for joining us as always yeah thanks for having me everybody hit subscribe let's get to six million subscribers the truth is more important than ever check out our new truth over lies collection at store.midastouch.com all 100 % USA union made

18:47I'll see you tomorrow.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Republican leaders like Senator John Thune losing on live tv as Trump’s United Nations was went off the rails and Meiselas interviews Democratic Congressman Seth Moulton.

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