Representative-Elect Grijalva is Ready to Sign Discharge Petition

27 Sep 2025 · 24 min

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Episode Title

Representative-Elect Grijalva is Ready to Sign Discharge Petition

Hosts

  • Ben Meiselas
  • Brett Meiselas
  • Jordy Meiselas

Episode Overview In this episode, Ben Meiselas discusses the political maneuvering surrounding a government shutdown and the potential implications of a discharge petition aimed at revealing information about Donald Trump's past. He is joined by Congresswoman-elect Adelita Grijalva, who plans to sign the discharge petition that would give it the necessary support to force a vote in the House of Representatives.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. MAGA Mike Johnson's Political Challenges
  2. Situation: Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, faces pressure as the deadline for a government shutdown approaches.
  3. Discharge Petition: Aimed at revealing Epstein files related to Trump's past, requiring 218 signatures to force a House vote.
  4. Grijalva's Role: Adelita Grijalva, Congresswoman-elect from Arizona’s 7th district, is crucial as she will be the 218th signature.
  1. Adelita Grijalva's Election and Impact
  2. Election Victory: Grijalva won by a significant margin (40 points), outperforming some notable Democratic figures.
  3. Statement of Intent: She plans to travel to Washington, D.C. to advocate for negotiations to prevent the government shutdown and sign the discharge petition.
  1. Concerns Over Trump’s Influence and Government Shutdown
  2. Theories on Shutdown: Ben posits that the shutdown may be a tactic by Trump to delay Grijalva’s swearing-in and the release of the Epstein files.
  3. Trump’s Strategy: Trump allegedly wants to shift blame for economic issues onto Democrats while avoiding transparency about his past.
  1. The Discharge Petition’s Bipartisan Nature
  2. Bipartisan Support: The petition was initiated by Republican Thomas Massey and Democratic Ro Khanna, with support from several Republican members including Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert.
  3. Threats from Trump: Ben discusses how Trump has pressured Republicans to withdraw their support for the petition, labeling it a "hostile act."
  1. Grijalva's Legislative Agenda
  2. Immediate Goals: Upon being sworn in, Grijalva aims to:
  3. Fight for environmental justice.
  4. Lower costs for working families.
  5. Protect social safety nets and public education.
  6. Stand against illegal ICE raids impacting immigrant communities.
  1. Public Sentiment and Political Climate
  2. Community Concerns: Grijalva highlights the struggles of families in her district, emphasizing the negative impact of government dysfunction and the need for accountability from the Trump administration.
  3. A Call to Action: Grijalva and Ben both express the urgency of re-establishing Congress as a co-equal branch of government and the importance of fighting for the people.

Key Takeaways

  • Bipartisan Collaboration: The discharge petition showcases a rare collaboration across party lines in a highly polarized political environment.
  • Significance of Grijalva's Role: Her swearing-in could shift the balance of political power and transparency in Congress.
  • Impact of Leadership: The episode highlights the importance of leadership in preventing governmental dysfunction and addressing the needs of constituents.

Conclusion This episode presents a critical moment in U.S. politics, focusing on the intersection of accountability, government functionality, and the role of newly elected officials in shaping legislative priorities. The Meiselas brothers combine insightful commentary with humor, making complex political issues more accessible to their audience.

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0:00Look at MAGA Mike Johnson's face right there. He's a panicking. He and Donald Trump are facing a nightmare scenario right now because that discharge petition that was being circulated in the House of Representatives to force a vote on the release of the Epstein files and thus the uncovering of more disturbing information of Donald Trump's dark past. Well, it's about to get that 218 signature that was needed to force that House floor vote. How? Because in Arizona's 7th Congressional District, they have a new Democratic Congresswoman-elect. Her name is Adelita Grijalva. She won by like 40 points, outperforming former Vice President Kamala Harris's 2024 numbers by like an additional 20 points.

0:48She's now the Congresswoman-elect, and she's put out a statement right away that I'm planning to travel to Washington, D.C. on Monday to join my Democratic colleagues in demanding that Republicans come to the negotiating table to prevent a government shutdown and to vote on the release of the Epstein files. Congresswoman-elect Grijalva has confirmed that she will sign the discharge petition that was first circulated by Democratic Congress member Ro Khanna and Republican Congress member Thomas Massey. That will be 218 votes. The discharge petition will be effectuated, and that should force a vote on the House floor forthwith.

1:30Now, it's one of my theories, And I'm not trying to get all that conspiratorial here, but that one of the reasons MAGA Mike Johnson is telling the Republicans don't show up to work on September 29th and September 30th, right before the government shutdown on October 1st, is because if they show up and it's a work day, then they'll have to swear in Congresswoman-elect Grijalva. She will become a congresswoman. She'll sign the discharge petition and it will be effectuated. So one of the things I will posit is that the reason that we're getting even closer to this government shutdown, I also think has to do in part, in part, because Donald Trump wants to avoid the Epstein files coming to light.

2:16I also think Donald Trump wants to blame the economic calamity he's causing on Democrats, and he's going to go back to his old bag of tricks and say, transgender this, crime that, migrants this, Democrats want all of that. When all the Democrats have said regarding the impending shutdown is that the Democrats want to ensure that your Affordable Care Act tax premiums are not raised and that the tax credit is extended. Let me just show you what's going down here as well, because I believe the cover up of Donald Trump's dark past is also inextricably intertwined with the desire by Donald Trump to shut down the government with MAGA Mike Johnson.

2:58Just as a reminder, here's how MAGA Mike Johnson has been falsely talking about the discharge petition that was initiated by Republican Thomas Massey and Democratic Congressmember Ro Khanna. Here play this clip. The Massey and the Kana discharge petition does not have adequate protections. For example, in the way that it was drafted, they cite that they don't want child abuse, sex abuse information uncovered, but they cite the wrong provision of the federal code. And so it makes it unworkable. It requires the DOJ to release grand jury testimony. They are prohibited by law from doing so. So it is not the right approach.

3:38There is another approach out there. The House Republicans on the Rules Committee have a resolution that is well drafted, that is thoughtfully drafted by lawyers that would make this workable. That's the approach we have to protect the innocent. We'll do it at all costs. They do say that they want victims' names redacted, though, just to be clear. Let me move on to Ghislaine Maxwell, the deputy. But their language doesn't adequately produce that. Yes, go ahead. OK, let me move. And then Donald Trump has been saying that it is a hostile act if you sign this discharge petition. Now, fortunately, the discharge petition has already been signed, not just by Thomas Massey, but Marjorie Taylor Greene has signed it.

4:17Nancy Mace has signed it. Lauren Boebert has signed it. So that's the sufficient number of signatures on the Republican side in order to now with the Democrats get to that magic 218 number to force a vote on the Epstein files. But here, just to remind you, is Republican Thomas Massey saying that Donald Trump has threatened Republicans that it is a hostile act to support the discharge petition, to support the release of the Epstein files. And here, Republican Congress member Thomas Massey goes, I think it's pretty unprecedented that you have the president of the United States saying it's a hostile act in order to have transparency for the release of files relating to like a sex trafficking pedo ring?

5:03Here, play this clip. I'm pretty sure. I mean, it's a strong effort from the White House. They are literally calling it a hostile act to sign this discharge petition now. And I don't know if that's precedented in this country to have a president call legislators to say that they're engaged in a hostile act, particularly when the so-called hostile act is trying to get justice for people who've been victims of sex crimes. And then more from Mag and Mike here trying to say, well, look, you know, Donald Trump's as transparent as you get. You don't get more transparent than this. Here, play this clip.

5:45I've spoken to the president myself about this many times, and he is as insistent as we are. He is the most transparent president in memory, probably in the history of the country. As you know, he stops. If he was here now, he would stand here and take your questions endlessly. That's his mindset. And he wants the American people to have information so they can draw their own conclusions. I've talked with him about this very subject myself, so I can tell you that is his heart. Now, he also, just as we do, is insistent that we protect the innocent victims. And that's what this has been about. Now, I believe that one of the reasons that Donald Trump wants a government shutdown and why he's ordered MAGA Mike not to allow Republicans to go to work on September 29th into September 30th is because those would be the days when the discharge petition would be officially signed and a vote would take place.

6:37And I think this indefinitely, what temporarily delays the swearing in of Adelita Gravaja as the congresswoman. In the meantime, too, we know the news from yesterday, Donald Trump was pressuring and threatening all of the members of the Republicans who already signed the discharge petition to remove their names immediately. So I think it gives Donald Trump more time to try to bully them. But while all of this is going on, I just want to remind you, Donald Trump, in his own words, back in 2011 and 2013, said that if the president is not willing to meet with the leaders of the Senate and the leaders of the House from both political parties.

7:20That's failed leadership. And the president should be blamed for the shutdown. So to me, I'm going to play that for you in a moment. When you put this all together, seems like Donald Trump wants the shutdown also to avoid the Epstein files being released. But here, play this clip. First question, Donald, we're having a hell of a time trying to negotiate here in Washington. So tell me, if you were president, what would you do? Well, very simply, you have to get everybody in a room. You have to be a leader. The president president has to lead. I hear the Democrats are going to be blamed and the Republicans are going to be blamed.

7:51I actually think the president would be blamed. If there is a shutdown, I think it would be a tremendously negative mark on the president of the United States. He's the one that has to get people together. They're not going to be talking who the head of the House was, the head of the Senate, who's running things in Washington. So I really think the pressure is on the president. So now I'm joined by Congresswoman-elect Adelita Grijalva from Arizona's 7th congressional district. Congresswoman-elect, Congresswoman, you will be the 218th signature on the discharge petition to release the Epstein files, bipartisan in the sense that Republican Thomas Massey and Democratic Congressmember Ro Khanna were the ones who put that forward.

8:36So, you know, a lot of sometimes, you know, a Congress member-elect, they show up with their family, They do a nice little tour of the Capitol. You have a nice dinner nearby. I mean, you're stepping into a lot. We're on the eve of a government shutdown. You have MAGA Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, telling Republicans don't show up September 29th and 30th, the critical days before a shutdown would take place. You just posted a statement. You're saying, I'm planning on traveling to Washington, D.C. on Monday to join my Democratic colleagues in demanding Republicans come to the negotiating table to prevent a government shutdown and vote on the release of the Epstein files.

9:20We cannot allow Republican dysfunction to jeopardize the economy or block long overdue accountability. And Congresswoman-elect, even though you're the Congresswoman, I mean, you won not just even by a little, you outperformed significantly your late great father. You outperformed Kamala Harris there. I mean, the people overwhelmingly said, we want Adelita in this congressional district. I'm also hearing, though, that Maga Mike Johnson does not want to swear you in right away and says, ah, no, we got to wait for the official results. We don't even know. So before getting to discharge petition, before getting to shutdown, let's just talk about you being sworn in as your job as a congresswoman.

10:04What's the latest there? So the latest is I was looking at the example of now Representative Walkinshaw from Virginia, who was elected two weeks ago Tuesday. And that following Wednesday, less than 24 hours was sworn in and with unofficial results. It literally says so in, you know, the congressman who was introducing him, like, here's unofficial results, but it's not not disputed. And it was approved without objection. So for me, this Chicana from Tucson, apparently the rules have now changed in two weeks and we're being asked for official results. And and there's conversations with our secretary of state, Fontes.

10:49And so I'm sort of wondering why in two weeks the rules are so different and maybe it has something to do with the fact that I'm number 218. I don't know. Well, I mean, it wasn't you. You won in a overwhelming fashion as well. So this is not something like, oh, it could be close. I mean, you won by over 40, 43, 44 points. Yeah, 40 points. And the latest count. But let's talk about, you know, we'll see what we'll see what Mike Johnson does. But let's talk about the discharge petition. You know, it's already been announced that you're going to be signing that. And so already you're going to be having, you know, a major impact, which is probably one of the reasons that it all kind of makes sense.

11:33And I was not trying to get conspiratorial. I'm like, they want to shut the government down because Trump doesn't want the discharge petition being signed. But then I put it together and I'm like, well, you know, they're not going to, they're not swearing you in. Then there's those two days where they shut it down. There at least feels like there's some, there's some link there now and again, not to be conspiratorial, but how else do you look at it? Well, I'm trying not to be, but you know, I literally two weeks ago, the rules were already established. This was going to be the process. And so initially we, um, votes were scheduled on the 29th and 30th and now Johnson has canceled those.

12:12Um, Democrats are going to show up in Washington in full force, ready to work, ready to work for the American people. We don't want a shutdown. But, you know, when you don't have somebody willing to negotiate and talk and compromise, that's part of the problem. And so we want to make sure the Democrats want to make sure that the community sees and the nation sees that we want to get to work and we don't want to shut down. It's disruptive. It is causes chaos and instability. Many people out of work, not knowing whether they're going to get whether they're going to have back pay or not. And respectfully, I can't hire staff.

12:51I won't be able to hire staff. So there are a lot of moving parts here. And, you know, the community here in Arizona, CD7 overwhelmingly wants me to be their voice in Congress. And I want to do my job. You know, and I think when you and I talked last, one of the things that as you were touring the district, people were just upset at this whole mentality by MAGA and Trump and Mike Johnson that they didn't want to engage in government. People were getting it, the fact that they didn't want to have conversations, that they said, why even speak to the other side? We're just going to do whatever Donald Trump wants.

13:31And that people are like, that's just not government in America. And here it is, as you're a congresswoman-elect, they're saying, we don't want to have any conversations with Democrats about the funding bill. We don't need Democrats when you actually need Democrats to pass a funding bill. So it's kind of a microcosm of what you ran on. And, you know, in so much of what's happening right now in this nation, it feels like there's a for sale sign on the White House that, you know, if you have enough money, you can pay for justice. If you have enough money, you can be immigrated and the red carpet will be rolled out if you buy some Trump crypto, we're going to make some accommodations for you.

14:13And, you know, your loved one that is currently serving time might be able to walk out. I mean, to me, this is such blatant corruption. And that is why so many people are so frustrated, because it doesn't seem like regardless of who is at the table negotiating, something doesn't seem to change, but we are going to make a change and we're going to let you know that this election is not about me. You know, as a border district, our community is so unique. And I think that perspective is so important and it's been missing from the table in DC. And that's why I want to get to work. Right. For all of their talk about the border, border, border, they don't even want to swear in you right now and follow the rules when they've got a border district congresswoman elect they're going to change their own standards not to swear in which to me is very talk about the discharge petition and and what why it's also you know you think very important for you to sign this and kind of bring transparency to an area frankly that three months ago trump and maggot was saying that they wanted to release right you know i think that this is as much about fulfilling congress's duty as a constitutional check on this administration and it's about demanding justice for survivors.

15:34The days of turning a blind eye to Trump must end. And so Congress needs to reestablish itself as a co-equal branch of government. And that's why I will immediately sign on to the discharge petitions that also aim to rein in Trump's authority to unilaterally impose inflation causing tariffs and other emergency powers. I think that it's really important that the American people see us fighting for them. It's not just fighting against Trump. It's like, what are we fighting for? And if you look at just the immoral and illegal things that are happening in this administration, the Trump's family's wealth has grown$3 billion since he's taken office.

16:17Why aren't we talking about that? I said it's a golden age for the Trump family. They're getting rich, golden ballrooms, UFC matches. Trump's being driven in golden carriages by Windsor Palace, bailing out Argentina, apparently after they said Argentina was going to make everything, you're going to be so rich. And Americans are on the precipice of, there's some real bad indicators out. I mean, as I'm sure you're speaking to the people in your district, people live in paycheck to paycheck, people scared. Things are getting more costly, despite Trump saying he's eliminated inflation. So let's talk about it.

16:56You get sworn in when that happens. Let's talk about what you're going to do, your priorities. And as you mentioned, kind of not just what we're doing against Trump, but what we're doing for the people. So let the people know, again, your agenda in Congress. Yeah, well, right away, I'm going to co-sponsor legislation that addresses the needs of Southern Arizonans, advancing environmental justice for all and respecting tribal sovereignty, lowering costs for working people and investing in affordable housing, reversing the costs to Medicaid and SNAP and protecting social safety nets that our children and seniors rely on, defending public education by restoring federal funding and fighting attempts to expand this private voucher scheme and standing up for our immigrant communities against Trump's illegal ICE raids that are ripping families apart.

17:40literally around the corner where I get my gas. There was two people in masks, nondescript clothing, but wearing bulletproof vests, driving around in a car that had no insignia, nothing there, and taking a woman out of her car and dragging her. So when you see people that are, you know, we don't know what's happening, it literally looks like a kidnapping. And then we have, you know, about what, 1500 people in Alligator Alcatraz alone. Where are they? They've just like disappeared. And families don't know where their, you know, where their family is. Who is holding Trump responsible? And when we think about what this impact has had in the last, let's say, this year and what ICE is doing, what are they going to be like next year when they have 20 times the budget?

18:41And that's why it's so important for Congress to take this important step to say, we're going to take those emergency powers and executive powers away from Trump. That I mean, it is why I believe that our voice, my voice representing so many people here in southern Arizona is important because I don't know that many people understand what our average working families are going through and what our communities here on the border are experiencing. I mean, we have the devastation. People keep talking and scapegoating our immigrant communities. But they are the reason this nation is in the position that we're in.

19:24And when you look at the jobs reports, you look at our economy. I mean, everything seems to be going in a direction and that's not in the direction of America being great again. It's great to see again Adelita Grijalva, Congresswoman-elect. Let's take off the elect. Let's put just Congresswoman. Grijalva. Keep us posted on swearing in. That should happen immediately. We'll see what games they play, but keep us posted. Thank you so much and thank you for having me. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers.

20:12See you next time.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on MAGA Mike Johnson screwing up his plans with Donald Trump immediately before the government shutdown is set to occurr and Meiselas interviews Democratic Congresswoman-Elect Adelita Grijalva about her plans to sign the discharge petition on Trump’s dark past which would give the petition the 218 that is needed to force a vote.

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