In short
The episode argues that Marco Rubio and allied figures are undermining Switzerland-based Middle East peace talks, aiming to derail a J.D. Vance-led negotiation and keep the U.S. on a path toward renewed conflict with Iran.
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Key claims
Rubio avoided attending the Switzerland talks; his allies (Fox/Mark Levin, Lindsey Graham, Mike Huckabee, Netanyahu, and MAGA influencers) allegedly coordinated attacks on Vance to sabotage the process. The episode claims the MOU is being undermined and that failure would enable U.S. control of the Strait of Hormuz by force.
Notable examples
Quoted influencer posts mocking Vance’s “humiliation” in Switzerland; Lindsey Graham’s claim the U.S. would take the Strait of Hormuz and “obliterate” Iran; Israeli officials’ escalatory rhetoric about Lebanon and repeated bombing of Iran/Hezbollah; discussion of the MOU’s alleged omissions (e.g., ballistic missiles) and alleged financial relief to Iran.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VORubio's Role in Peace Talks
0:00 to 0:24
Discussing Marco Rubio's actions and their impact on peace talks in Switzerland.
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Rubio's Role in Peace Talks
1:57 to 3:29
Discussing Marco Rubio's actions and their impact on peace talks in Switzerland.
“I still want to see peace in the region, and I want the United States to get out of that region, and I want to see Israel get out of Lebanon, and I want to see peace in the Middle East.”
MAGA Influencers and Their Impact
3:29 to 7:17
Analyzing the role of MAGA influencers in undermining political processes.
“Just take a look at some of these posts by MAGA influencers like Max Abrahams.”
Lindsey Graham's Statements on Iran
7:17 to 9:35
Examining Lindsey Graham's remarks regarding Iran and the Strait of Hormuz.
“Then Rubio's former colleague, Lindsey Graham, goes on the various morning shows.”
Escalating Rhetoric from Israel
13:21 to 14:00
Discussing the increasing tensions and rhetoric from Israeli officials towards Lebanon.
“And then at that same conference, you see how this is all being coordinated?”
Analyzing Rubio's Role in Middle East Tensions
14:00 to 16:45
Explore how Rubio is perceived to influence U.S. involvement in Middle East conflicts.
“Rubio, in my opinion, was the puppet master working with Netanyahu and others this whole time.”
Critique of Pro-Regime Change Sentiment
16:45 to 19:35
A critical look at Mark Levin's views on U.S. foreign policy regarding Iran.
“And we saw what happened when Israel's continued to attack Lebanon and Iran shut down the Strait of Hormuz again this weekend.”
The Implications of the MOU
19:35 to 22:41
Discussion on the memorandum of understanding and its effects on U.S.-Iran relations.
“And then obviously Mark Levin is, they're literally coordinating to speak to Donald Trump.”
Rubio's Political Maneuvering in Colombia
22:41 to 24:01
Examining Rubio's influence in Colombian politics amidst U.S. interests.
“Just spoke to the Colombian president-elect, according to the results, the far right-wing candidate won in Colombia who Rubio and Trump were pushing.”
Transcript
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1:56Ben Meiselas:built upon the back of a catastrophic and unlawful war, which we should never have been involved in in the first place. I still want to see peace in the region, and I want the United States to get out of that region, and I want to see Israel get out of Lebanon, and I want to see peace in the Middle East. But Marco Rubio does not want to. The neocon war hawks do not want to see peace in the region. Netanyahu does not want to see peace in the region. And so I want to show you the steps that Marco Rubio has taken, yes, to sabotage J.D. Vance, but more significantly to sabotage the peace talks generally in Switzerland.
2:36Ben Meiselas:And I think it's coming from a number of angles, in my opinion. I think Marco Rubio has been working with state regime media, Fox propagandists like Mark Levin, Trey Gowdy, and others. I think he's been working with Mike Huckabee, the ambassador to Israel. I think Rubio has been working with Lindsey Graham. And I believe, in my opinion, Rubio has been working with the MAGA influencers to relentlessly attack J.D. Vance. And let me be clear. I mean, I think that J.D. Vance is worthy of a lot of attacks, But the goal of these attacks right now, again, is to undermine a peace process that while likely very flimsy, I still want to give peace a chance, a more than a chance.
3:26Ben Meiselas:I want to see peace work. So let's talk about what we're seeing Marco Rubio and I believe these MAGA influencers do. Just take a look at some of these posts by MAGA influencers like Max Abrahams. The Vance team is very thin-skinned, childish, toxic, and beneath the presidency, they sound like mean girls. Then you had all of these like MAGA influencers seem to have coordinated messages. Look how these assholes treat JD. The Qatar dude totally dissed him. I'm so done with these people. There will never be peace with these Islamo terrorists. Get on a plane and come home, JD Vance. Jake Hilton. While J.D.
4:05Ben Meiselas:Vance is busy getting embarrassed in Switzerland, could the real Donald Trump possibly be back? Only time will tell, this other account. This was humiliation. No one in modern history had to beg for these negotiations. This was the moment J.D. Vance should have returned to Washington. The Islamic regime did this on purpose. Trump, if you don't understand politics, you should at least understand protocol. Mossad commentary. Qatar's prime minister publicly snubbed VP Vance, underscoring the contempt he has for American leadership. Qatar continues to play both sides while hosting Islamist figures and advancing its own agenda.
4:45Ben Meiselas:Eton Fischenberg, look how Qatar's prime minister totally snubs and embarrasses Vance. Neo, I can't believe Vance of the United States is getting humiliated like this. Jamie Metzzie, watch J.D. Vance humiliate. You get the point right here. No, this is at the same time that APEC posted the following message about Marco Rubio. And it's a post, it's a video of Marco Rubio from the past. And it's obviously APEC pushing Marco Rubio as their preferred presidential candidate for 2028. And they write, every problem in the Middle East tracks back to Iran. I think this was part of the signal given to Rubio, go forward with the plan.
5:28Ben Meiselas:We've got your back right here. Then Netanyahu kicks into action. Lindsey Graham kicks into action. Mark Levin kicks into action. And you really see this coordinated effort with those MAGA influencers. And Marco Rubio knew this was coming. That's why Rubio specifically avoided showing up there. And to me, him not showing up there reveals the whole game. Because as I note from the outset, that's your job as the Secretary of State. You don't get to choose, I don't like that negotiation. I don't like this negotiation. I don't like that. You know, I despise J.D. Vance. I despise Marco Rubio. At least J.D.
6:07Ben Meiselas:Vance showed up and, you know, there are photos of him with the prime minister of Qatar, Al Thani. And you have Jared Kushner in the background, deer in headlights. And J.D. Vance is, you know, typing away and writing what ended up becoming a joint statement that was released despite Donald Trump making all of these posts, threatening to kill the Iranian negotiating team and threatening to take over the Strait of Hormuz. With all of that taking place, there was a statement that came out of this that was at least somewhat constructive, although Donald Trump, I'm sure, will try to blow it up again.
6:46Ben Meiselas:So here you have Mark Levin. And again, And this to me is part of Rubio's plan right here. And this is a message that they direct at J.D. Vance. Stop smearing and bullying the little state of Israel. Stop bullying the little state of Israel. Here, let's play this clip. I want to say to people in and out of the administration,
7:11stop trashing, smearing, bullying the little state of Israel.
7:17Ben Meiselas:Then Rubio's former colleague, Lindsey Graham, goes on the various morning shows. Here he is on Face the Nation. And I believe, again, this was part of Rubio's plan. Hey, Rubio, don't show up. We're going to put the influencers on this operation. We're going to have Fox. You see, they activated their trillion-dollar regime media neocon propaganda right here. and then Lindsey Graham is out there and Lindsey Graham goes, you know, I spent all this time with Donald Trump and here's what's going to happen. This deal is going to fall apart and then we're going to go take over the Strait of Hormuz. Hey, Lindsey, how many lives, I know, Lindsey, you know, this is all a game for you.
8:00Ben Meiselas:How many American lives do you think are going to get lost like that? You're okay with Americans continuing to go bankrupt here and our economy being destroyed? Here's what Lindsey Graham has to say. Let's play this clip right here. I spent four and a half hours with President Trump Friday. Here's what I think will happen next. If this deal fails, President Trump is going to take the Strait of Hormuz over by force. The United States will control the Strait of Hormuz. We'll charge a fee for all those who go through to pay for the operation. And we're going to expand the Abraham Accords in calendar year 2026.
8:36We're going to get Saudi Arabia joined the Abraham Accords. which is the biggest change in 5 ,000 years in the Mideast. And if Iran can test control of the Strait of Hormuz by the United States, we'll obliterate them.
8:50Ben Meiselas:And then Lindsey Graham uses that same line of his, to the people of Lebanon, help is on the way, to Donald Trump used to the Iranians, Iran, help is on the way. And he's doing this on purpose. He also says, and this goes to tell you that he's coordinating this with Netanyahu in Israel, and Saudi Arabia and all these Arab nations, they're gonna join the Abraham Accords and Donald Trump will be a historic president. Saudi Arabia and most of these Arab nations aren't joining the Abraham Accords while Netanyahu is still involved in genocide and while there isn't a Palestinian state and while Netanyahu continues to blow up Lebanon.
9:31Ben Meiselas:There's no joining the Abraham Accords while this is happening. Stop it. And your obsession with Saudi Arabia joining the Abraham Accords when Saudi Arabia says we're not doing it is just weird and dangerous. Here, play this clip. To Saudi Arabia, now's the time to open negotiations yet again for you to expand the Abraham Accords, for you to join. I think this is going to happen in 2026, and it can't happen until Iran's in a box. If we get a deal, if we get a deal, Iran will be in a box. If we don't get a deal, Iran will be in a box. To Lebanon, to the people in Lebanon, help is on the way. Hezbollah has been terrorizing your country for a long time.
10:15That's about to end.
10:16Ben Meiselas:So then while all of this was going on, you had this 2026 International Policy Summit in Israel taking place where you had Mike Huckabee out there and all of these speakers basically saying America's existence wouldn't happen if it wasn't for the Jewish people. That's why America exists. Here, let's play this clip. Through you, the world will be blessed. When our founders understood, they understood it in such a way that even in our Declaration of Independence, we made very clear that our rights don't come from government. They come from God. They come from the creator. And where did they get that notion?
11:01They got it all the way back to this very city in Jerusalem. They got it clearly from the time of an unbroken history of the Jewish people having been connected to God and being a light to the world. And I want there to be no misunderstanding. Americans, whether they understand it or not, need to be grateful to God for the Jewish people and the foundation upon which freedom and the sanctity of the individual was founded because that is what separates our values from the values of totalitarianism and dictatorship. I want no part of that. I like freedom and the heart, the soul, and the genesis of that came from right here in this land.
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13:21Ben Meiselas:And then at that same conference, you see how this is all being coordinated? Netanyahu basically continues to escalate the rhetoric against Lebanon when, and so does Ben Gavir and so does Smutrich, when Article 1 of the Memorandum of Understanding is all about de-escalating, de-conflicting, de-conflictization of Lebanon. And that was one of the main topics of the negotiations regarding the MOU over the weekend. So the goal was to try to derail the peace talks. And again, that's why Rubio wasn't there. Rubio, in my opinion, was the puppet master working with Netanyahu and others this whole time.
14:07Ben Meiselas:Netanyahu goes. We attack their bridges. We attack so many targets. The cumulative damage we did to the IRGC economy is not counted in the millions, but the hundreds of millions. Not in the tens of billions, but the hundreds of billions. It will take them a long time to recover. The terrorists don't just target civilians. They hide among the civilians. We target the terrorists, but there are some civilian casualties in every such war, Netanyahu says. As long as we need to protect our people. We will remain in the security zone in South Lebanon. The reason is perfectly understood. No country would be asked to do otherwise.
14:45Ben Meiselas:Then you had Ben Gavir and Ben Gavir, who's Israel's national security minister, one of their top officials. So when Israel's like, ah, he's just a fringe figure, he's the national security minister. He goes, this is what he says, Lebanon, all of Lebanon should become our playground. All of Lebanon should be our target. And they tell me, wait a second, there is Lebanon and there is Hezbollah. I do not accept this artificial approach. These are direct quotes from Israel's national security minister. A thousand Lebanese mothers may cry, but not a single Israeli mother. With the Iranians, there is no point in making compromise and no point in signing agreements.
15:31Ben Meiselas:The Iranians need to be bombed and then bombed again and then bombed again. And it's the same with Hezbollah. Hezbollah, just keep bombing them and then bomb them again and bomb them again. That's how it works. Anyone who wants to condemn me can condemn me. Let people around the world say whatever they want. I truly believe this. And again, Rubio's not there. Netanyahu's giving that speech. Huckabee is giving that speech. Mark Levin is giving that speech and saying those things. Mark Levin spoke at that conference as well. And he's been in Israel coordinating with Netanyahu, although he claims, no, I'm not.
16:07Ben Meiselas:I'm not coordinating with Netanyahu. And then you also have, I'll show you in a minute, former Vice President Pence going on state regime media with Trey Gowdy. I mentioned also the MAGA influencers all doing that. You saw the effort. And again, sure, they're naming J.D. Vance, but the reality is they're attacking any possibility for peace. And as I've said before, I'm no Vance fan, but I am the biggest fan of peace. The MOU is done. I don't want to see the MOU fall apart if that means the Strait of Hormuz remaining closed. And we saw what happened when Israel's continued to attack Lebanon and Iran shut down the Strait of Hormuz again this weekend.
16:53Ben Meiselas:I want to see it open. I want our tankers to get it. I want oil prices to go down. I want relief for the American people, okay? I can hold that thought and still say, I despise J.D. Vance. I despise this regime, but I also want to locate where this is all coming from. And it's coming from Rubio and Netanyahu who are working together to undermine the process, obviously. And so I'll show you what was going down also on state regime media. which calls itself Fox when Trey Gowdy also brought in Mike Pence. Here, play this clip. ... with our CIA director, John Rakslouf. I've seen his patients run out with me on the golf course.
17:36I don't know if you've ever seen his patients run out, but that is not something the Iranians, I think, want to see. Mr.
17:43Ben Meiselas:Vice President, thank you for your service. I love service. And then I don't want to show many more clips of Mark Levin because I despise Mark Levin. and he's such an obvious propagandist, in my opinion. But Mark Levin over here, again, Fox gives him this platform because I believe Murdoch is a neocon war hawk also who wants us to be back into this never-ending war and doesn't care about the consequences. For him, maybe that's good for ratings and good for more market manipulation. I don't know. Then Mark Levin promoting a pro-regime change poll says, Donald, I want you to know where your supporters are, okay?
18:25Ben Meiselas:The supporters are all, well, I want you to go back to war and have everybody die. Here's what Mark Levin says. Play this clip. Well, look at this. New York Post, President Trump's most fervent supporters prefer overthrowing Iran's theocratic regime to reaching a negotiated settlement with Tehran by a margin of more than two to one, according to a new survey. The Reagan Institute summer survey found that 51 percent of self-described MAGA Republicans said they wanted the U.S. to install new leadership in Iran, while just 25 percent preferred a peace deal. Among all Republicans, 50 percent said they were in favor of putting a U.S.
19:06friendly regime in place, with 25 percent again saying they wanted a negotiated settlement. You know, these isolationists, so-called influencers, don't influence anybody except the few people in Washington, D.C. And I would encourage the Republicans, MAGA, traditional conservatives, White House, Congress, to start paying attention to your supporters and your voters. Victory is the best, the best for electoral success. Lincoln found that out at the end of the civil war too.
19:37Ben Meiselas:And then obviously Mark Levin is, they're literally coordinating to speak to Donald Trump. I mean, just think about what the hell is happening right now. And then Mark Levin's like, the MOU, because they blame, you know, J.D. Vance for the MOU too, is intentionally silent on ballistic missiles. They can train that against the United States. Here's what Mark Levin says. Let's play this clip right here. This MOU is intentionally silent about ballistic missiles, the most devastating and destructive conventional weapon that exists. Iran is free to manufacture thousands and thousands more of them. There is no limit on its ability to produce them, nor is there any limit on its reach.
20:26We learned a surprise about a month ago that they had a ballistic missile that could reach Europe and soon they'll have a ballistic missile that can reach the United States and there's nothing in the memorandum of understanding that prevents it because it doesn't even address ballistic missiles. Despite all the denials the MOU is a massive cash cow to the Iranian regime. We will give the regime 24 billion dollars that we've been withholding from them their money we're told it belongs to them anyway their terrorist group we don't give them their money or anybody's money we will facilitate the delivery of another 300 billion dollars give or take for the regime from whatever source probably arab countries the regime is free to sell oil through the strait of hormuz and in fact will now control the strait of hormuz nothing stops it nothing stops it from controlling it and we'll be able to charge whatever it wishes after 60 days.
21:24Say here we have international waters that have now been conferred by us to the enemy. What a precedent that'll send. I'm sure the communist Chinese will be very pleased in the way they've tried to control the South China Sea. There's not a word in this MOU about Iran ending the funding of Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, or any other terrorist organizations. nothing. Zippo. All sanctions against banking and financial and commercial activities are lifted. And as a matter of fact, any sanctions that are out there by the UN or the IAEA or any other organization, we are committed to assisting in getting those lifted for the Iranian regime.
22:06Not a word, not a syllable about the Iranian people. Nothing.
22:11Ben Meiselas:Zip. And so while Marco Rubio is puppet mastering all of this, in my opinion, behind the scenes, what he wants to be here for is the Columbia election. Remember, Marco Rubio worked to imprison and incarcerate the activist from Arizona who was for the Petro regime or for the Petro administration. but here's what Marco Rubio posted. Just spoke to the Colombian president-elect, according to the results, the far right-wing candidate won in Colombia who Rubio and Trump were pushing. To congratulate him on his electoral victory, the Trump administration looks forward to working closely with your incoming administration to advance regional security cooperation and end illegal immigration in the United States and strengthen our economic ties.
23:05Ben Meiselas:Colombia's best day is ahead. And then putting that message to Donald Trump, Donald Trump posts, he won big. The guy calls himself El Tigre. He's a lawyer in Colombia, Albrador de la Esprea. And according to the results, it's a narrow margin. They're likely going to have some challenges to it. But that's who the lead, that's who the winner is as of now. New York Times is expecting that he's going to win. And then Trump posts that. So Rubio wants to be on this side of the equation, focusing on the Columbia elections while throwing J.D. Vance under the bus. So to me, that's what's going on behind the scenes.
23:47Ben Meiselas:And I think it's really revealing of what the neocons are doing to try to get the United States back into a never-ending war with Iran. So you tell me what you think. Head subscribe. Let's get to 7 million subscribers. Appreciate you. Thanks for watching. Be sure to add the Midas Touch podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts for new updates every single day.
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