Senator Rosen Discusses Fight against Trump and MAGA

9 Nov 2025 · 21 min · 6 chapters

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In short

Democratic Sen. Jackie Rosen attacks MAGA Republicans’ messaging and policies during a “Trump shutdown,” arguing they blame Democrats while harming affordability and healthcare; she also criticizes cruelty and privacy violations by Sen. Bernie Moreno.

Guest backgrounds

Jackie Rosen is a Democratic U.S. Senator from Nevada, focused on constituents’ health access, affordability, and SNAP/healthcare fights.

Key claims

MAGA lawmakers lie about inflation and consumer conditions; Trump’s administration weaponizes SNAP via court challenges; tariffs and trade actions raise costs; Republicans ignore constitutional law and constituents; “cruelty is a feature” of the administration.

Notable examples

Byron Donald’s claims about Democrats causing inflation/healthcare costs; Rick Scott praising Trump’s “stamina” and rare-earth deals; Lori Chavez-DeRemar citing consumer confidence while Rosen counters grocery/healthcare affordability; Trump filing to block SNAP; Nevada tourism drop tied to immigration enforcement and tariffs; Rosen alleges Moreno’s staff recorded VIN/license details by spying in a private garage.

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Chapters

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MAGA Republicans Losing Touch

0:19 to 2:08

Explore how MAGA Republicans are disconnected from reality and blaming Democrats.

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Clips of Republican Claims

2:08 to 4:10

Discussion of various Republican clips and their misleading narratives.

“This is a Trump Republican government shutdown.”

Senator Rosen's Perspective on Trump

4:10 to 6:02

Senator Rosen critiques Trump's healthcare policies and the impact on Americans.

“And now I don't think Democrats even have taken that into consideration while they play these political games.”

Critique of Trump and Allies

6:02 to 7:20

Senator Rosen discusses the cruelty of Trump's administration and its effects.

“And this is why we're standing up for healthcare, primarily for everyone, but for food and for dignity and for affordability.”

Impact of Policies on Nevada

7:20 to 14:00

Senator Rosen explains how Trump's policies are negatively affecting Nevada's economy.

“The last time I checked, they took an oath to the Constitution.”

Senator Rosen on Trump's Impact on Nevada

14:00 to 17:22

Senator Rosen discusses how Trump's policies negatively affect Nevada and addresses concerns about his behavior.

“If there's no tips, there's nothing to pay no tax on.”
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0:46Ben Meiselas:So as the week came to its end, the MAGA Republicans in the House of Representatives and the Senate only continued to lose their minds even more. They would make these public appearances where they would say, you know, everything that's bad right now, it's the Democrats fault. The inflation, they sometimes claim it doesn't exist or it does exist, depending on what Donald Trump wants him to say. But just just blame the Democrats for everything. Like here you have MAGA Republican Congress member Byron Donald. Here's what he was saying on state regime media known as Fox today. Play this clip. The inflation that is still hurting in some respects our economy, that was unleashed by the Democrats with no Republican votes.

1:26Ben Meiselas:Healthcare policy in our country where premiums have skyrocketed, deductibles have skyrocketed, that was passed through by Democrats with no Republican input. And now they're back saying they need even more subsidies to cover up their irresponsible healthcare policies. That was pushed through by them. Look, at some point, in my view, the next time the Democrats have the trifecta, they are going to get rid of the filibuster. And when they do that, they're going to start moving towards universal health care, which was the original design from Obamacare. Oh my God, everybody's getting health care.

1:58Ben Meiselas:Oh my gosh. By the way, you have the trifecta, Maggiore. You're literally have been in control now for 10 months and you've run the country into the ground. This is a Trump Republican government shutdown. while donald trump's like sleeping like do we all see him sleeping yesterday while he was in the oval office and there was first like one of the guy like passed out who was there and trump did nothing and just started looking at the cameras then trump fell asleep so today all the mega republicans were out there and they were like he's got so much stamina he's so strong it's just really weird stuff like here's mega republican senator rick scott he's like he's out there so much energy.

2:36Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. He hates war. He hates war. He's trying to bring peace to the Middle East. Think about how many people's lives will improve if we can get peace in the Middle East. And so, you know, I'm very appreciative of his hard work. I was with, I was over there at breakfast on Tuesday, and this guy, Trump is just busting his butt every day working hard to get our economy going, to bring peace. I mean, you really have to admire He's got a lot of stamina. And also he's doing the rare earth deals that are going to free us from the extortion that China has put us through. Oh, yeah, you're doing the rare earth deals.

3:10Ben Meiselas:You mean when China was giving us rare earth elements under Biden and then because of Trump's trade war against the world, they did export controls on rare earths and stopped buying soybeans from our farmers. And now the deal is we get to send them less soybeans and rare earth elements still have export controls on them. And every year Trump has to go back and beg like quite literally the worst deal imaginable. Who's their audience? Like, do they realize that farmers know they're lying? Americans know they're lying. Didn't the voters send a resounding message earlier? And then you have the anti-labor secretary, the MAGA Republican, Lori Chavez-Dareemar.

3:46Ben Meiselas:Here's what she had to say. Let's play it. I can tell you, the president has done a wonderful job because the consumer confidence was up. The momentum this administration was on with, you know, energy prices down, grocery prices down, the stock market has been up, economic growth 3.8 percent, expected to go up even further. This is really this Democratic shutdown has hurt the American men and women of this country who are working so hard every single day to just get ahead. And now I don't think Democrats even have taken that into consideration while they play these political games. Just excuse after excuse after excuse.

4:24Ben Meiselas:These MAGA Republicans, all they do is lie. I want to bring in Democratic Senator from Nevada, Jackie Rosen, Senator Rosen. It's great to finally see on the Midas Touch Network. So you see these clips every day. Your colleagues, the Republicans, they go up there, they do that. What do you make of that when it's so disconnected from what the people in Nevada and America are feeling? You know what? And I'm going to thank you for showing that because consumer confidence. I want to ask you, and I think you showed Rick Scott over there. When do you think the last time Rick Scott ever went to a grocery store?

4:57When do you think the last time? What is Donald Trump? He doesn't even know what groceries are. He said the groceries. They don't have any idea what it is to go to the market. They don't have any idea what it is not to be able to afford your rent. They don't have any idea what it is to have the anxiety of not being able to go to the doctor and get your medication, which is why we're in this fight, because millions and millions of people will lose their access to a health insurance policy. So I have to lap this consumer confidence sheep into the market, because I can tell you when I go, the prices are up.

5:32Everywhere I go, the prices are up. This is a Trump shutdown. It's a Trump economy. And every deal he makes, like I said, we were getting the rare earths. He shut it down. He raised the tariffs. Now they're not coming. So he's just basking in the ridiculous, I just want to say everyone capitulates to him, oh, it's the dear leader. He's not the dear leader. He's not the king. He's the president. And we have laws and we have rules and they should be followed. And he's defying all of it. And this is why we're standing up for healthcare, primarily for everyone, but for food and for dignity and for affordability.

6:12No matter what you see across this country, every city you go in, the number one thing is affordability. I can't afford to get ahead in my life. What are we going to do?

6:24Ben Meiselas:I never thought I would see the day where an administration would file an appeal to block SNAP payments reaching the American federal judge. Judge McConnell in Rhode Island says, there's money that exists. Give people their SNAP benefits pursuant to what the law is that created SNAP. Do it. And the Trump regime files an emergency petition to the First Circuit saying that we don't want to pay it. We don't want to listen to that court order. Trump says it's a liquidity issue. We give$40 billion to Argentina. But he says, you know, the liquidity issue is we can't fund SNAP. We don't have the money.

7:07Ben Meiselas:But Senator, It's a liquidity issue, but isn't he the guy who says he brings in$22 trillion every week? First of all, J.D. Vance, I think he went to some fancy pants law school, and he says, we'll decide what laws we comply with. The last time I checked, they took an oath to the Constitution. The Constitution has laws, and laws are not suggestions. They don't get to decide what they comply or comply with. Laws are not suggestions. they have to go to the Constitution. They have to, they took an oath to the Constitution, excuse me, and they need to support that. As far as all of this, weaponizing SNAP can't be a liquidity issue when, well, Kristi Noem, we can talk about her.

7:48She's so charming that she asked for not one, but two planes to the tune of nearly$200 million. I don't know, you can't ride in two planes at once. So what's she planning to do in the second one? Trump decides that he thinks the DOJ hurt his feelings under their prior administration. He's writing himself a check, well, for another$230 million. He's created the Rose Garden Club, where it looks like Mar-a-Lago, and you can join and have gold-plated breakfast there. And he's building a multi, almost a half a billion dollar ballroom. Where's that coming from? And all the golf weekends, every weekend, the money is piling up that he's spending.

8:25And on Halloween weekend, in the middle of a shutdown, with their defunding snap where children will go hungry, millions of them. They are gluttonously eating and partying in a ballroom with gold rim plates, laughing at their voters, laughing all the way in their gluttony and what they can do to screw the American people. This is Trump shutdown, Trump's economy. He doesn't give a crap about anyone and he certainly doesn't care if you You go to the doctor. I do. I'm listening to my constituents, and I want to be sure that everyone, an accident or a diagnosis can change your life in an instant. You go bankrupt.

9:07God forbid you could die. You can't get your medication. Come on. People deserve the dignity to be able to take care of their health, be able to afford their rent, be able to get ahead in this life. Donald Trump is laughing in the face of everyone who voted for him.

9:25Ben Meiselas:You know, there's a lot of lessons that I think we can draw from Tuesday. But I mean, you highlight this. I guess Trump and MAGA's closing message was a great Gatsby party, roaring 20s themed at Mar-a-Lago with like people dancing in martini glasses. The slogan was a little party never killed nobody while Americans are starving. He's going to kill someone. He's killing someone. But I think about just the cruelty taking place, whether it's Trump, Vance, Hegseth, Kristi Noem, Duffy, you name it. It's like cruel, evil, mean human beings. And I think that there is part of America setting aside the politics of it, just saying like, why are these people so freaking evil and mean and behaving?

10:17Ben Meiselas:What behavior is this? This is not how we want to to see adults or anyone just behave as humans. Well, I can tell you, and I've said this often, and I don't say it with any joy, that cruelty is a feature, not a bug of Trump's administration. And I see this with my colleagues who day by day, in order to please the party of one, Donald Trump, they stop listening to their constituents. They stop caring about hungry kids. They stop listening to the moms who kids have chronic diseases or terminal diseases when they cut pediatric cancer research or they're cutting their ability to get their health care.

10:53Cruelty is a feature, not a bug. And every one of my colleagues every day in their actions and their words are getting crueler and crueler. And instead of thinking about feeding people, they said, let's make it worse. Let's shut down the air traffic. Let's shut down this. Let's starve more people. Let's make sure we kick everyone off health care because God forbid, maybe Kristi Noem needs another$100 million plane. I don't know, but it's ridiculous. And we have to stop the cruelty. We have to stop the cruelty.

11:24Ben Meiselas:Let's talk about your state for a second, the great state of Nevada. The day hit very hard, Vegas, Clark Kent, hit hard because Canadians aren't traveling. A lot of people have stopped. The tourism's being hit. People who could potentially benefit from no tax on tips are getting less tips because their wages have been cut significantly. So the day after the election, where this blue wave sweeps across the country, Donald Trump posts this glowing endorsement of the current governor, Joe Lombardo, this MAGA governor. Trump says, Joe Lombardo is strong, very popular governor, very special place. And then Lombardo goes, thank you for your endorsement and for your leadership.

12:05Ben Meiselas:I look forward to continuing your agenda, basically. Speak to it from someone who's in Nevada right now, because all the reports that I see coming out of Nevada are that Trump's policies, the tariffs against the world are crushing the state and that people are seeing it. But then you see this putting their arms around each other like this big victory celebration after Americans sent the very, I think, significant message on Tuesday. Well, I'm going to agree with the president on one thing. Nevada is a very special place. And that's why I'm proud to represent it. And I'm proud to fight for my constituents every day.

12:40And you know what's hurting? Not just our gaming economy in Las Vegas and Reno, but do you know we're the most mountainous state in the lower 48? From Lake Mead to Lake Tahoe and everywhere in between, we have some of the darkest skies in the center of Nevada. You can really see the stars from the Las Vegas Strip to Ely, Nevada. It's amazing. And so whether it's outdoor adventure tourism, or you come to see a sports music event, any of those things, come to the sphere. It's amazing. And what's hurting us is immigration policy. People don't want to come here. We're down from Canada, from around the world, our international travel down because they see people getting picked up in the streets with masked men and women and just shoving people into unmarked cars or people getting stopped in an airport because they had a post somewhere in their own country, number one.

13:32Number two, the tariffs making everything more expensive. So every bit of food you eat, everything that we have in Las Vegas, we're bringing those goods in from other places, oftentimes from other countries. Cost of all of that is going up. And so when tourism is down, wages are down. And I'll talk about business tourism. The consumer confidence, it's not there. So people aren't having their conventions. People aren't traveling for business and we are hurting. So no tax on tips. If there's no tips, there's nothing to pay no tax on. So every bit of Trump's policies are hurting my great state of Nevada.

14:11And this is a Trump's economy and we have to push back every way he can. And again, by closing down, he's starting to close down airports in places he doesn't like. He's all about revenge and cruelty instead of increasing prosperity and access for people in all areas of their life. This is what we're in the fight for, and I'm not going to stop.

14:35Ben Meiselas:Just final thing I wanted to mention. I showed the video clip of Senator from Ohio, Bernie Moreno. um he you basically found out that he he and his staff were like looking at the bin numbers of the vehicles of a very kind of creepy way almost like spying on you i mean just like a weird behavior if you think of any work environment that's like what what happened there and you know and and you confronted him and he had this smug look on his face like yeah you know i'm watching this and i'm And again, going back to our conversation of cruelty or just weirdness, to me, it's like, what are you doing?

15:16Ben Meiselas:This guy who's a United States senator had people look at the VIN numbers of your car and your staffer's car. Strange behavior. You know, he's creepy and it's gross. And he said on camera that him and his staff, the staff that is a federal employee from his office stalked us. I don't know if his stalk followed us, spied on us, whatever word you want to use to find out what cars we drive in, get the VIN number, get the license. I don't know what information he's getting, collect all of that so he could find out information about us. Now, like I said, at the very least, it is creepy. It is gross.

15:55We have young people who drive us around who work for us to and from the Capitol. And this is a private garage. It's not a public space. and that he spends his time, isn't he working? Doesn't he have a job? Doesn't he have a constituent? Let him go to a food bank and see how many people are hungry. Let him go listen to those moms whose kids who have cancer that need pediatric cancer research and healthcare. And instead, he's using government resources and possibly his own, he owns the used car dealerships or some things like that. Is he obtaining information that's not even publicly available and presenting it in public at a committee level?

16:30I just happened to be the person there when he was so proud of him following all of us into the garage and getting as much information about the vehicles we ride in. I just think that the Commerce Committee is going to be looking into what we can do about that. It is clearly some violation of our privacy. And at the very least, my young staff and the young women who are in the garage, now they're going down there. Everyone's looking around to see who the hell is following them. Is it Bernie Moreno and his team? And what are they doing with that information? It is wrong. It is gross. Let him get to work.

17:07I got a lot of work in my office. Maybe he needs to come to Nevada. We can explain to him what a senator really needs to do. And it's not following people to take down their VIN numbers. Maybe you should go back to the used car business if he doesn't know how to be a senator.

17:21Ben Meiselas:Senator Rosen, thanks so much for your time. We appreciate all you do for this country and for your state. Thank you. I I am glad to come on anytime, my friends. Take you up on it. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. Want to stay plugged in? Become a subscriber to our sub stack at MidasPlus.com. You'll get daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski, add free episodes of our podcast, and more exclusive content only available at MidasPlus.com.

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