In short
Ben Meiselas argues the Iran–U.S. conflict is escalating, with U.S. forces suffering major losses while official claims downplay casualties. He claims Iran is conducting “surgical” missile/drone strikes on U.S. bases in Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, and elsewhere, and that this is paired with efforts to disrupt shipping by pressuring the Strait of Hormuz and the Bab al-Mandab Strait. He also criticizes U.S. policy on Saudi nuclear enrichment and ties it to broader economic fallout (oil prices, Treasury yields, tariffs).
Guest backgrounds
No guests are identified in the transcript (only Ben and references to “Jeremy” for clips/production).
Key claims
U.S. medevac numbers (about 450 injured, 18 killed) are understated; satellite imagery confirms base hits; interceptors/munitions are running low; CENTCOM overstates “ships free to go” (900 since May) and ignores that many tankers turn around; Houthis (Iran-aligned) shut down Bab al-Mandab for Saudi tankers; Rubio’s “Lego video” framing is hypocritical; Trump’s Saudi nuclear enrichment statements show misunderstanding of enrichment/downblending and undermine safety.
Notable examples
medevac flights to Walter Reed/Germany; strikes on King Faisal Air Base in Jordan; alleged damage at Ali al-Salam Air Base in Kuwait; two Saudi tankers shot/destroyed near Bab al-Mandab; Rubio’s “minor concussions” language; Trump’s social media nuclear-enrichment/Abraham Accords conditions.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOEscalation of the Iran Conflict
0:46 to 3:18
A detailed discussion on the current military situation in Iran and U.S. responses.
“According to the United States military, the injury amount to somewhere in the range of 450 injured, 18 killed in action.”
U.S. Military Strategy and Equipment Movement
3:19 to 4:35
Analysis of U.S. military strategy and equipment movements in the region.
“And look, this isn't to paint a rosy picture in terms of like everything's going great in Iran.”
CENTCOM's Claims and Reality
4:36 to 5:38
Discussion on CENTCOM's claims regarding the Strait of Hormuz and the realities on the ground.
“Look, right now, CENTCOM is falsely claiming the Strait of Hormuz is open.”
Impact of Houthis and Regional Alliances
5:39 to 7:41
Exploration of the Houthis' influence in Yemen and their connections to Iran.
“he gets something that's 10 % of the amount of what it was and then brags about the 10 % because it still sounds like a big number, but it's 10 % of what took place before the war started by Donald Trump and Netanyahu.”
Economic Consequences of Conflict
7:42 to 10:50
Assessment of the economic ramifications of the ongoing conflict, including oil prices and Treasury yields.
“And on any given day when the leader, al-Houthi, when he speaks, he doesn't go out and talk all that much, but you'll have hundreds of thousands of people show up in the area.”
Trump's Failed Strategies and Future Projections
10:51 to 14:00
Critique of Trump's strategies in the Middle East and predictions for escalating tensions.
“you have the Strait of Hormuz effectively shut down.”
Strategic Petroleum Reserves Overview
14:00 to 14:50
Learn about the current status of the strategic petroleum reserves and its implications.
“And then I became a strategic petroleum reserve geek with all of you.”
Trump's Desperation and Options
14:50 to 17:20
Explore the desperate measures Trump might take regarding international relations and military actions.
“Or you escalate dramatically, dramatically, which will result in very predictable catastrophe.”
Consequences of Trump's Decisions
17:20 to 19:45
Discussion on how Trump's decisions may lead to catastrophic outcomes and the public's reaction.
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Nuclear Concerns with Saudi Arabia
19:45 to 21:38
Examine the implications of Trump's nuclear deal announcement with Saudi Arabia.
“have what they want, which is nuclear weapons.”
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Misunderstandings of Nuclear Enrichment
21:38 to 24:28
Understand the basic principles of nuclear enrichment and the mistakes made by Trump.
“Thank you for your attention to this matter, Donald J.”
The Abraham Accords Dilemma
24:28 to 26:49
Insights into the complexities surrounding the Abraham Accords and its impact on Saudi relations.
“obliterated any ability for them to make it weapons grade back in July 2025 or June 2025.”
Global Tensions and War Risks
26:49 to 28:00
Discussion on the current global tensions and the risks of a potential world war.
“where he shows he doesn't even understand the way enrichment works.”
The Current War Climate
28:00 to 30:08
Explore the implications of leadership on global conflicts and the current war landscape.
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The Current War Climate
30:11 to 31:18
Explore the implications of leadership on global conflicts and the current war landscape.
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The Current War Climate
33:10 to 34:45
Explore the implications of leadership on global conflicts and the current war landscape.
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The Impact of Tariffs on Small Businesses
34:48 to 42:00
Understand how tariffs affect small businesses and the personal stories behind the statistics.
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Marco Rubio's Press Conference Reaction
42:00 to 44:38
Discussion on Marco Rubio's statements during a press conference about Iran.
“So after this live ends, you can search fight for progress, watch the full video.”
U.S. Military and Iranian Threats
44:38 to 47:04
Analysis of the threats posed to U.S. troops by Iranian strikes and military actions.
“That right there is what is on the mind of the United States Secretary of State right now?”
Iran's Military Strategy Explained
47:04 to 51:17
Exploration of Iran's military strategy and its impact on regional stability.
“While we don't have the interceptors and the munitions to stop the Iranian strikes after we attack Iran, if they wanted to, could attack more of these containerized barracks.”
The Houthi Connection
51:17 to 55:21
Discussion on the Houthis' relationship with Iran and implications for U.S. foreign policy.
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The Houthi Connection
58:03 to 59:11
Discussion on the Houthis' relationship with Iran and implications for U.S. foreign policy.
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Return to Breaking News
59:26 to 1:00:06
Ben returns to discuss the absurdity of current news narratives.
“And then I said, is he saying that they were snooky from Jersey Shore because it's just as ridiculous and absurd as saying that the Houthis were somehow snookered.”
Escalating Conflict and Casualty Cover-ups
1:00:06 to 1:03:10
Discussion on the ongoing war and alleged cover-ups regarding casualties.
“That makes you want to stay and watch this more.”
Propaganda in War Reporting
1:03:10 to 1:06:06
Analysis of propaganda tactics used in military communications.
“We've abandoned numerous bases in the region.”
Trump's Absurd Claims and Foreign Relations
1:06:06 to 1:10:04
Critique of Trump's statements regarding foreign policy and military actions.
“I mean, it's sad, but Admiral Brad Cooper, the head of CENCOM is a clown.”
Analyzing Trump's Political Strategies
1:10:04 to 1:12:09
Discusses the various political strategies used by Trump and their implications.
“If you go back to everything he does, it looks like that.”
The Psychology Behind Trump's Support
1:12:10 to 1:14:29
Explores the psychological factors driving Trump's supporters and his appeal.
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Impact of Trump's Policies on America
1:14:30 to 1:17:10
Examines how Trump's policies are affecting the United States and its future.
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The Dangers of Escalation in Foreign Policy
1:17:11 to 1:22:02
Discusses the risks of Trump's foreign policy decisions and potential consequences.
“You have to have a deep understanding of what's happening.”
Wrap-Up and Farewell
1:24:00 to 1:24:37
The hosts conclude the episode, thanking listeners and encouraging engagement.
“Snooki from Jersey Shore, Jim Tan Laundry.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Welcome to Ben on Breaking News. I'm Ben Meiselas and this is your breaking news. By all accounts, this catastrophic and unlawful war in Iran by Donald Trump and his horrible regime appears like it's about to escalate even more as the United States military suffers disaster after disaster in the Middle East, but pretends that it's winning. It pretends that Iran wants to make a deal. It pretends that everything is amazing. There have been about 10 medevac flights to the Mideast from U.S. medevac planes, taking people either to Walter Reed or to a air base or hospital base, rather, nearby the air base in Germany.
0:46According to the United States military, the injury amount to somewhere in the range of 450 injured, 18 killed in action. I think we all believe, at least when it comes to the injuries, that that is being significantly understated. I believe that number is probably multiples of that amount. I mean, we can see some of the satellite imagery of these bases in Jordan and Kuwait and Bahrain and some of the nearby bases. At this point, the U.S. has evacuated a lot of its military bases in the Middle East of equipment. It removed its valuable, precious military equipment, airplanes and other equipment to Israel.
1:39Why? Because they have an iron dome there in Israel, which is protecting the equipment there. But the Arab nations that gave Donald Trump a lot of money, gave Trump's companies a lot of money, I think what they thought were quid pro quos, found out that the security umbrella may be working for Netanyahu in Israel, but really ain't working all that much for these Arab nations. munitions running low in terms of the U.S. Pac-3 interceptors, the FAD interceptors, and other equipment. Iran's been doing an effective job targeting early detection systems and radar systems as well at these bases belonging to the United States in these Arab nations.
2:27And we've been seeing right now a situation where every time the U.S. announces, All right. Twelfth night of escalation. Iran's been able to respond by striking these U.S. military bases in a very surgical way as well. Iran's not utilizing hundreds and hundreds of ballistic missiles at a time. It often does these 8 to 12 ballistic missile salvos that maybe 20 % of the missiles are able to be struck down by the United States interceptors. And so lots of the missiles have been hitting their targets. We've got satellite and surveillance confirmation of that. And we've been reporting on that each and every day here.
3:15Just to keep you updated on what's actually happening in the region. And look, this isn't to paint a rosy picture in terms of like everything's going great in Iran. Obviously, the United States military is striking Iran hard. Civilian bridges, desalination facilities, that's how Iranians get water. Also military facilities, IRGC barracks. the U.S. has been striking a lot of targets, often on the coast of Iran. If you looked at the way the U.S. has been striking, the pattern appears to be prepping for some sort of ground invasion, whether that's ultimately a massive ground invasion or special forces trying to take over Keshem Island, which I think would be catastrophic.
4:13The pattern of US strikes along the coast seems to be in an effort to allow for an invasion of Keshem. And I guess in the view of CENCOM, this will open up the Strait of Hormuz and then all of the tankers will say, thank you, we're free to go. We did it. Strait of Hormuz is open. Look, right now, CENTCOM is falsely claiming the Strait of Hormuz is open. I mean, literally as tankers are running into or sailing into mines, blowing up, as Iranian fastboats have been able to strike these tankers in the Strait of Hormuz as well. And a lot of these tankers are turning around. You hear over the VHF frequency.
5:00Some of the captains of these tankers saying to the US supercarriers in the area, shut the F up. Stop telling us to go. We don't want to go. Stop it. You're not giving us protection. We're not going to take the southern route of the Strait of Hormuz. But CENTCOM is saying it's open, it's free. What did CENTCOM say? 900 ships since May have been free to go, or 900 ships over the past several months have been free to go. Even if you accepted the number of CENTCOM, that's about 10 % of the amount of ships that were leaving the Strait of Hormuz before the war. Isn't that such like a obvious Trump deal where he breaks something and then he gets something that's 10 % of the amount of what it was and then brags about the 10 % because it still sounds like a big number, but it's 10 % of what took place before the war started by Donald Trump and Netanyahu.
5:58So that's what CENTCOM is a bragging about. And by the way, Trump's been fraudulent with numbers his entire life. The CENTCOM number is also based on the tankers that went through the IRGC route, which is the route where they don't get blown up and destroyed and they pay a small nominal fee to Iran for Iran to say it controls the Strait of Hormuz. That's what was in the MOU, Iran administers the Strait of Hormuz. So you have that going on in the Strait of Hormuz. In the Bab al-Mandab Strait in the Red Sea, that's right by Yemen, right? Western Yemen is controlled by the Houthis. Houthis control a large part of Yemen.
6:45The international, so-called international recognized government in Yemen is not the Houthis. The Houthis have their capital in Sana 'a. I just want to give you a sense of, like when we talk about it, there's a lot going on, right? Houthis, their capital is Sana 'a in Yemen. They control a large part of Yemen. But then there's a Saudi-backed government, which is like the government as it's viewed in the international community. In Yemen, it's like a coalition government, and there's a lot going on there. But just for purposes of this, it's a Saudi-led government. But the Houthis control the area that's close to the Bab al-Mandab Strait.
7:23The Houthis are allied with Iran. It's a Shiite community, part of the access of resistance. And their spiritual leader was Ayatollah Komenay, who the Trump regime and Netanyahu killed. I mean, on any given day, they call themselves Ansrallah. It's the Houthis. And on any given day when the leader, al-Houthi, when he speaks, he doesn't go out and talk all that much, but you'll have hundreds of thousands of people show up in the area. And you see these images of just massive, massive amounts of people. It looks a lot like Ayatollah Khomeini's funeral proceedings. And that goes on a lot in Yemen.
8:10But in any event,
8:11Ben Meiselas:the Houthis, remember back in 2025, the Houthis were controlling a lot of the Red Sea. And then remember the whole signal gate issue where one of the first wars that were taking place was actually against the Houthis. And then Donald Trump, then there was unusual things that were happening. remember back in May 2025, I know there's so much stuff with the Trump regime happening that people forget a lot of these things. But the whole thing with SignalGate was they were talking on the Signal app about the strikes in Yemen, right? And they were giving away the coordinates when the strikes would take place.
8:50Ben Meiselas:And then remember at that time, there were like a number of like US fighter jets and helicopters that were crashing. Do you remember that? There were like jets that were crashing and helicopters that were crashing and lots of drones that were mysteriously crashing. And they'd be like, yeah, the helicopter or the plane, it just fell off the side of the boat. And remember the Houthis were saying, no, we were hitting them. But then the official thing that came out was, no, it just fell off the side of the tanker of the super carriers. And that's what was happening. And then Donald Trump, remember Donald Trump begged for a cease fire with the Houthis.
9:27This probably gave a good indication to Iran and the Houthis how you deal with Donald Trump back in 20. A lot of people aren't even talking about this 2025 one. And then
9:36Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump praised the Houthis and said that they're very strong and they're very brave and they're courageous and they're really great people. And he did a solid deal with them and things are going great. Remember that? I think, Jeremy, go back and check. I think we have that clip somewhere in our archive that I want to show from May of 2025, just to show how all this stuff is related. But the Houthis have said if Trump continues to escalate, again, and one of the areas where Trump is using to escalate his bases in Saudi Arabia, the Houthis said, we'll shut down the Bab al-Mandaab Strait to Saudi tankers.
10:19Yeah, that was the clip from 2025. It was the one on the Houthis, where Trump praises the Houthis in the first act, Jeremy. And so the Houthis made good on their threat and they shut down the Bab al-Mandab Strait as it relates to the Saudi tankers. two Saudi tankers tried to leave yesterday. Both were shot at and destroyed by the Houthis. And so now with the great work of Donald Trump, and I say that sarcastically, you have the Strait of Hormuz effectively shut down. You have the Babel Mondob Strait effectively shut down. You have the price per barrel of oil right now at over$100 a barrel, and I think that's going to very quickly escalate to$150 a barrel pretty soon.
11:14We have the 10-year Treasury note yield approaching 5%. We have the 30-year Treasury yield already well over 5%, which ultimately means interest rates going up, up, up, up, up, your mortgage rates going up, up, up, the cost of borrowing going up, up, up, the amount of interest that has to be paid ultimately by taxpayers in this Ponzi scheme of escalating debt by the United States and its Treasury Department just gets worse and worse and worse. You'll remember last year when I was talking about the kind of crisis developing from Trump's so-called Liberation Day, about how it was causing the Treasury note yields to go up.
12:05Ben Meiselas:And I was like a Treasury note yield geek. Remember those days where I would say, let's focus on the Treasury note yields. Let's focus on the 10-year, the 20-year, the 30-year. Remember, I would say, well, never thought I'd have to be an expert in Treasury note yield percentages. But apparently under the Trump regime, that's what you got to become. Well, now we're also collectively as a community, experts in the Babel Mandab Strait, the Strait of Hormuz, the crack spreads, the delta between your price of crude and your refinery price. And by the way, the crack spread continues to go up, up, up, while the price of crude goes up, up, up.
12:46Ben Meiselas:Which ain't good because that means your refineries ultimately sell to the gas stations. So those prices keep going up. And so we're now at a period of time where the warnings that we were making on this show, which I hope you didn't think were hyperbolic, I get accused of that sometimes, but I hope, you know, or that I was just fear mongering and saying these things because whatever, you know, just to just to say and get clicks or whatever. We were going through the science. We were going through the data. We were showing where this was all headed. And it was very clear that if you followed the data, this is what was ultimately going to take place.
13:32Ben Meiselas:And that's why I was saying we'd be at$100 a barrel. And then all of these people were like, you're a panicking. It's at$68. And I'm like, well, first off, there's massive market manipulation taking place. Look at these short positions that are taking place, which are so incongruent to what the refinery prices were, hence the crack spreads that we were talking about a lot. I said, also, strategic petroleum reserves are being depleted at a massive clip. And then I became a strategic petroleum reserve geek with all of you. And I was like, okay, look at the strategic petroleum reserves. Look at the strategic petroleum reserves.
14:09Ben Meiselas:We're at tank bottom. We're at tank bottom. Well, now we're in the point though, where every day there's this exponential compounding effect in a very, very bad way. And this is why Trump is as desperate as can be and why the options are you just leave at this point. You destroyed the MOU, so I don't think there's any way to go back and do a deal. So you You just leave, which Trump can never do because he doesn't want to be called a loser or worse than Obama or whatever it is. Or you escalate dramatically, dramatically, which will result in very predictable catastrophe. You know, history often seems complex, but sometimes, you know, I would reflect with With all of the complexities in history, how is it sometimes that on a eighth grade social studies exam, the answer could so easily be true or false or ABC or D?
15:20Ben Meiselas:How did America ultimately get destroyed and go bankrupt and suffer a great economic depression in 2026, 2027? A, Donald Trump's tariffs. B, Donald Trump's war. C, all of the above. I mean, it's like, yeah, you know, it is so obvious. It feels like we're going in slow motion into this too because this regime is so callous. This regime is so stupid. And there's so all these enablers and you just watch. You watch and you go, wow, you're just heading right into the abyss right now. The lesson that you've learned from all of this from the past five months is that if you bomb Iran more, that's going to make them want to do a deal with you.
16:14Ben Meiselas:No, for Iran, this is an existential civilization thing for an Iranian civilization that's been around for thousands of years. They view it in that context. For Donald Trump, he views this as some transactional trophy, as something that he wants to give a speech about to his MAGA base that he's losing, by the way, rapidly each and every day. And that very dynamic, and no American really, I mean, other than Trump and the kind of neocon war hawks and increasingly even just a tiny group of MAGA, like MAGA doesn't want this. and independents don't want this, Democrats don't want, Americans don't want, nobody wants them.
17:01Ben Meiselas:We don't know why we're there. We don't know what we're doing. We don't know what the hell is going on. We want nothing to do with any of this at all, this horrific, catastrophic and unlawful war. And we watch this idiotic, vile piece of trash buffoon in Donald Trump.
17:21Ben Meiselas:You watch this filthy thing up there, right? What else do you, a filthy creature, this disgusting piece of trash. I tell you, they want to do it. So bad. They want to do a deal with me. And I'm like, can we have some grown-up, please? If it could be, you know, just someone who, one, speaks in sentences. Two, who stops saying the freaking word deal over and over and over again. I don't need deal. I'm going to do a deal. They're like a deal. I'm a deal maker. I do deals. You want me to do a deal? You want to do a deal with me? You want to do a deal with Donald? It's like, shut the hell up about this stuff.
18:04Ben Meiselas:Just do it. Don't do it. I don't know what you're doing. I don't know what you're doing. And then you just watch him up there each and every day. And it's just stop. Just stop. Just grow up. And I say this as someone who absolutely despises him, not because his name is Donald Trump or this or that, but because what he does is so harmful. He's a war criminal. He hurt so many people. He's an idiot. And to see what one man or him and Netanyahu, two men, I shouldn't even call them, you know, two thing, the damage that they can cause on the entire world, on billions of people. It's wild. It's a crazy concept.
18:54So you have Donald Trump there doing a press conference
18:58Ben Meiselas:before bragging, bragging about 18 deaths. It's only 18. It's only 18, everybody. I mean, Vietnam was a lot more. And World War II was a lot more. Only 18. Here, let's play this first
19:44The President, President of the United States, have what they want, which is nuclear weapons. Which you said were obliterated in June of 2025. And now you're giving nuclear enrichment capability to Saudi Arabia, who were instrumental in killing U.S. journalists and involved in 9-11. So the Saudis get nuclear material. and then Donald Trump doesn't even know the way enrichment works.
20:17Ben Meiselas:And again, this is my thing. This isn't a democratic thing, a Republican thing, an independent thing. Can we just not be a stupid thing? I feel like it's one of the Dr. Seuss books that I read to one thing, two thing. Let's not be a stupid thing, right? And I read to my almost two-year-old baby girl. Pull up Jeremy, the social media post that Donald Trump made this morning about Saudi Arabia. Yesterday, Donald Trump announces that he's doing a deal with Saudi Arabia to give them nuclear enrichment capabilities, right? There didn't seem to be any strings attached to it. It was just announced that that's what was going to happen.
21:02Today, Donald Trump announces the following. The civil nuclear deal, there will be no enrichment of material being made between the United States Department of Energy and Saudi Arabia, which pertains only to non-military use, such as the ones that Iran and UAE and others already have will be approved, but is totally subject to Saudi Arabia joining the very respected and successful Abraham Accords. The United States is not opposed to civil, non-enriched nuclear facilities. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Donald J. Trump. Let's go to me for one second, Jeremy, then I'm going to put it back up in a second.
21:46Y 'all remember one of those games where they show you the photo and you're like, match the things that don't belong in the photo, right? Underline everything that doesn't make sense about this. So now put it back up, Jeremy. Just think about the statement. This is supposed to be the commander in chief of the United States. There will be no enrichment of material. Do you know the way civil nuclear facilities work, Donald? The difference between weapons grade and non-weapons grade is how it is blended, whether it is down blended, diluted, and the percentage of enrichment. Certain percentage makes it weapons grade.
22:28Certain dilution keeps it away from that. The whole point behind the JCPOA and what would have been the nuclear talks here, and this is what the Omani foreign minister was saying that the Trump regime didn't even understand during the mediation that took place in February, were the concepts of downblending. And that was one of the reasons that Trump went into this war with Netanyahu, because they don't understand the way nuclear material works. Again, I don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican or an Independent. Okay, the issue of what makes nuclear material weapons grade versus non-weapons grade for civilian use is the percentage of enrichment that ultimately takes place.
23:09And so what Iran was conveying at the mediation in February was that it was agreeable to all downblending and dilution procedures with oversight to make clear that they would not have weapons grade. To which the Trump said, they're keeping it enriched. Yeah, because that's uranium. That's how civil nuclear facilities work. It is uranium. It is the percentage that makes it weapons grade ultimately. Go back to the graphic though for a second as well. But then in this graphic, in this post by Donald Trump, he says Saudi Arabia will have non-military uses such as the ones that Iran and UAE already have.
23:56Okay. One thing, two things, stupid thing, confession thing, right? That's this Dr. Seuss page. So you're admitting right here that Iran has it for non-military uses. So you are admitting that you went to war, that you are a war criminal, that you went to war on false pretenses in that very social media post.
24:20Ben Meiselas:Because you say that they have for non-military purposes, which is what Iran always said, and you're admitting it in this post. And you then claim previously that you obliterated any ability for them to make it weapons grade back in July 2025 or June 2025. Okay, we read on, but it says it's subject to Saudi Arabia joining the very respected and successful Abraham Accords. Now that's the deal with Israel for Saudi Arabia to normalize relations with Israel. Now, Saudi Arabia has already made it very clear they don't want to do that until there is a Palestinian state. Now, whether MBS wants to do it or doesn't want to do it, MBS realizes if he enters into the Abraham Accords, he will be toppled if there is not a Palestine recognized by his people, by his population in Saudi Arabia.
25:13Ben Meiselas:So MBS has made it very clear, he's never joining the Abraham Accords. Remember many months ago before the MOU when Donald Trump was saying, if you want me to do a deal, you have to join the Abraham Accords. Remember Saudi Arabia and everybody else on the call and they all went silent because they don't want to join this because Israel's committing a genocide in Gaza and Israel's committing a genocide in Lebanon. They don't want to join it until that stops, until there's a Palestinian state that's recognized by Israel and the United States and the world. That's what Saudi Arabia's position is.
25:50I don't believe that Saudi Arabia should get any sort of preferential treatment over non-nuclear, just because they have a quid pro quo deal with Trump, over civilian use nuclear weapons. Is it proximity to Donald Trump that gets it? I don't like the idea of Saudi Arabia. have. I don't like the idea of nuclear proliferation in general. I understand the use of civilian nuclear energy. I think there are ways to address it and deal with it. But what Donald Trump is doing here now, this is why I've always said Trump can't do deals. What was the point of all of this? How he's now made everybody less safe.
26:35Ben Meiselas:He probably now, if you're Saudi Arabia and you see that statement like that, I'm not just like I'm not joining the Abraham Accords. What are you even doing? Saudi Arabia is just going to be like, all right, we're going to move closer to China. So even the thing that Trump purportedly wanted to do, which is a very dangerous thing to do, he now makes a stupid post. where he shows he doesn't even understand the way enrichment works. He's now undermined himself here. He's undermined the relationship with Saudi Arabia and pushed them closer to China anyway. And then I don't even understand. Why would they announce that yesterday and not include this provision?
27:17Ben Meiselas:Like, where's Congress? Where are people? Where's anybody? You know, these things, we're talking about nuclear, okay? We're talking about things that have the capability to end civilization as we know it. This isn't something that you just throw around and go, oh, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, everybody. This is real stuff. You're just playing with nuclear. You're just, okay, I want you, MBS, to join the Abraham Accords now. Will you do it for me, MBS? Oh, yes, Donald. I will definitely join the Abraham Accords and have my entire kingdom be toppled as a result. Yes. Yes, Donald, because you truthed it.
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28:00Ben Meiselas:You did it via truth. Yes, yes, yes. That's what I mean. This whole situation is idiotic. This should not, again, this is not a political, does not mean, vote for this guy, vote for this gal. Ain't that. It is the person is unfit to be in office and it's not even close. And that's an example of it. And now that person who doesn't understand the most basics of the way enrichment even works is moving the country and the world into a world war. It's not hyperbolic. The world is at war right now. And now even the UK having more of its bases used in the Royal Air Force base, which Iran says, okay, well, now you're fair game in the UK.
28:51Ben Meiselas:You're fair game as well now. Because we saw those B1s being used in the UK. War is raging with Russia's invasion of Ukraine. War is raging in the Middle East and spreading Yemen to the Red Sea and beyond. And Donald Trump's out there. I hereby declare via this truth that if Yemen doesn't henceforth stop blowing up ships, I'm very disappointed in you, Yemen Houthis. I'm very disappointed in you. It's like, get somebody serious in this office get a serious grown-up and adult in this office this this this this this deranged apprentice dystopian reality show needs to stop it really does it really does by the way it's what we talk about in wtf america pre-order right now I think somewhere there's a QR code or somewhere in the description.
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35:23And so check it out. And if you pre-ordered, write WTF already in the chat below. And hopefully I see you on the Patreon chat tonight, patreon.com slash Midas Touch. Really excited to see you all. Look, I just want to take a step back as well for a moment, though, and recognize these are very difficult times. And I understand how difficult this must be for all of you, whether you're here in the United States or whether you're abroad. This is not a game. this is not a experiment or some reality show although sometimes it feels like we're non-consensual participants and stuck in this dystopian corrosive thing that trump and the media normalize it feels like an escape room but you know you you all remember that you know last week when I was playing the video on the fight for progress YouTube channel and they highlighted someone from Pennsylvania who had three items in her fridge.
36:41Remember that? And she would talk about how I have to decide, am I going to have one item in the fridge, three items in the fridge? what am i going to do what am i going to do for my kids how am i going to afford health care i'm losing my health care this government with all of the stuff that's going on is just take take take hurt hurt hurt inflict pain and then the chaos every damn day right and it's like while this catastrophic war is going on as well, then what's Trump doing? Tariffing Canada 50 % on hockey sticks and other items. I mean, there's a lot of exclusions from those tariffs, of course, but it is.
37:31And then whining about, oh, Canada's so unfair. Canada treats us so unfair. Canada this, Canada that. It's like, what are you whining about? Canada treating us unfairly? What do you the nicest people.
37:43Ben Meiselas:It takes the most deranged people to think that Canada treats us bad. It's truly the most deranged group of humans who are like, you know who we should be really angry with right now? Who? The Canadians. Why? And it is, you know, you go back, you remember the South Park, blame Canada, you know, and the way South Park would also mock like North Korean dictators and things like that, right? Like we used to mock this stuff, but this is what this regime is. This is what and who MAGA actually, you know, what MAGA is actually all about. And so I just want you to know that when I do these videos, when I go live, when we discuss the war, when we discuss tariffs, when we discuss ICE and Border Patrol Gestapo killing people in our streets, when we talk about civil rights violations, discriminations, the racist behavior, when we discuss health care being taken away.
38:52I just, I want you to know that at the heart of all of this reporting is you. It's grounded in what you're going through, what your experiences are, and what and what you're saying and how we can best fight for you. Along those lines, I want to share this with you as well. And this is out of Pennsylvania as well, where the cost of tariffs, just like you see, wherever you're living, or if you live in Pennsylvania, it's causing inflation to rise, which isn't just some amorphous thing. It means that things aren't affordable. You layer on top of that and you have this catastrophic war in Iran, Trump's catastrophic trade war against everybody, and people can't afford things.
39:45And so Fight for Progress highlighted the story of Lisa and John Ronka over in Pennsylvania. And Pennsylvania's, they live in Pennsylvania, 7th Congressional District. They've got a MAGA representative, this guy, Ryan McKenzie, right there, northeastern Pennsylvania, Ryan McKenzie. And he's allowed Trump's tariffs. He's enabled all of the pain and suffering that MAGA is inflicting on John and Lisa. But this is what we're seeing in your neighborhoods as well. So let me just share with you their story quickly. Let's play it. The tariffs have greatly impacted us. President Trump's tariffs are starting to have an impact on businesses and consumers.
40:32It's insane how much things have increased. Tariffs on steel and aluminum imports double to 50%. We've owned Cutter's Bike Shop for about 17 years now. The metal, aluminum, steel type tariffs really impacted our business. Our profit margin is shrinking significantly. I think tariffs are going to be great for us because it's going to make us rich. Are there any discussions about giving any relief to small businesses? They're not going to need it. Okay. They're going to make so much money. It's just so bad because to me it's just like, how dumb do you think we are? We're not getting extra money from the tariffs.
41:08We're actually losing money. Do you feel like the president could have maybe rolled it out in a more consistent way? I've heard it many times over from businesses right here in our local community that are dealing with tariffs. Whatever the number is, they're going to deal with it and they're going to adjust their business.
41:30Representative McKenzie feels that we should just adjust our business to make up for the rising costs. I would love to see McKenzie walk down the street of Bethlehem. What was your reasoning behind voting for the tariffs? Did you take into effect that this can hurt a lot of small businesses in your area? You can't just continue to absorb that. You just cannot. McKenzie, yeah, kind of left us, abandoned us a little bit, and I'm not sure why. powerful video. You can watch longer version of that at the fight for progress YouTube page. So after this live ends, you can search fight for progress, watch the full video.
42:07And will you do me a favor in the comment section, tell the folks over at fight for progress that Ben said hi. And you can even, if you wanted to tell him WTF America, and that'll be our code language as well. Well, you could tell him that Ben says hi at fight for progress. So I wanted to share that with you because when i watch you know this press conference for example that marco rubio just had marco rubio u.s secretary of state he's over at the asean conference southeast asian conference on the sidelines there where he held this press conference and to see the secretary of state whining about the Iranian Lego videos and saying they make stupid Lego videos.
42:55And it's like, y 'all are whining about Iran's Lego videos while killing little girls in Iranian elementary schools and engaging in all of these war crimes across the world. When there are people like those people in Pennsylvania seven, that I just showed you who are suffering. What do you, your, and as we talk about reconciliation 3.0 and all this money that the MAGAs want, which is part of their Ponzi scheme, you want to take our money away from giving services to people and helping people like that, like you, so that y 'all can buy missiles, tomahawks to just engage in more war crimes and kill people.
43:35That's where you're putting my taxpayer dollars for this catastrophic war and for other wars that are taking place around the world? What are we doing right here? Here's Marco Rubio whining about the Lego video. Here, play this clip. Because the price they're paying is very high, despite their tough talk and their flowery language and their stupid Lego videos they put out. I've never seen them, but they put these things out on social media. Despite all that bravado, they are suffering tremendously and they're going to suffer more until they come to their senses. They're not there yet, unfortunately.
44:07I can't tell you who told them.
44:08Ben Meiselas:I'm gonna make them suffer more. They're not there yet. This Lego video, let's play the clip.
44:38You want to blockade us? Okay, you get the point. That's what's irritating the U.S. Secretary of State right now?
44:48Ben Meiselas:That right there is what is on the mind of the United States Secretary of State right now? Okay, then Rubio says, but every day Iran's calling up. They're begging. They're begging me for deals. This is what you're going with? That they're begging you for deals? This is what Rubio said. Let's play. okay these people who are calling us every day begging let's do a deal they send us messages through other countries third countries i mean they're running out of countries to send even i had countries here coming up to me oh i just spoke to the iranians they want to do a deal the problem is every time these people do a deal they either break it or after they make it they want to change the deal so they're probably not ready to do a deal yet but they will be they will be we bomb them more we escalate more and then they'll be like donald marco we want to do a deal with you now.
45:39You before, no.
45:40Ben Meiselas:But now we want to definitely do a deal with you guys. I just, it is unfathomable to have literally the dumbest, most evil human beings up there saying the stupidest stuff. I mean, I'll show you. This is new footage earlier today by Jordan showing the moment an Iranian ballistic missile directly hit King Faisal Air Base again in Jordan, where numerous U.S. service members are stationed. This is, they're calling, they're saying, Marco Polo. Here, play this clip.
46:29Yeah. That's, that's, you know, meanwhile, you have these satellite images, for example, of Ali al-Salam air base in Kuwait. This is July 23rd, but looks like there are casualties, you know, in, in, in this area. This is one of the areas where, you know, so our troops are in these containerized, are in these containerized barracks. We don't have the image, but you've seen, I've shown them before. These containerized barracks, by containerized barracks, y 'all know what I mean, containerized? They're containers. Our troops live in containers. Okay. And I use language sometimes, but like, let me explain, you know, like the containers, like the truck cargo, right?
47:10Ben Meiselas:That's where our troops live. While we don't have the interceptors and the munitions to stop the Iranian strikes after we attack Iran, if they wanted to, could attack more of these containerized barracks. But our troops basically live in the back of trucks, those cargo containers. and all in one while you have ballistic missiles and Shahid drones raining down on them. And then our CENTCOM and Defense Department goes, minor concussions, minor concussion. I mean, it's like the most offensive stuff. Again, saying a Democrat or a Republican, minor concussions after a Shahid drone and ballistic missile hit the base.
47:53Ben Meiselas:There's no such thing as a minor. It's a traumatic brain injury that will impact these people for the rest of their lives. A traumatic brain. Stop calling it a minor concussion. And again, I don't care if you're a Republican, a MAGA, a MAGA MAGA, a Teenage Mutant Ninja MAGA. I don't care what the hell you are. Minor concussion from a Shah hidden ballistic missile drone. And you're cool with that? You're cool with the behavior of this regime? saying things. This is Marco Rubio at the press conference. This is his message to the Houthis. Please stop. Houthis. Houthis. Please. Please. You're being that nice, Houthis.
48:41Ben Meiselas:The Houthis were suckered into this. They were suckered into this by Iran. Houthis. Please. Please, Houthis, don't do this to the United States. You're being very mean to us. Here play this clip.
49:22for the whole world. But I hope that will deescalate because I think the Houthis, frankly, got snookered into this thing by the Iranians and they were smart to stay out of it and they should stay out of it and they should stop. We'll see what happens there. Obviously, it's not a positive development. We'll see what happens.
49:37Ben Meiselas:Yeah, the Houthis. The Houthis. I'm going to speak with my hands the way these people, the way the people on the Trump talk. That's how I'll be more thorn. The Houthis, they got snookied from the Jersey Shore into this. They were snookied from Jersey Shore. What was the Jersey Shore? What did they do? They tanned. They wore the shirts. What was the three things on the Jersey Shore? Snookied was on the Jersey Shore, right? They got snookied into it. I know you said snookered. But who says that? You said they got snookered. What does that even mean? What were the three things, Jeremy? My editor, you were a Jersey Shore fan, Jeremy.
50:14Ben Meiselas:I mean, what were the three things? You tan, you club. He says he never watched the Jersey Shore in the comments to me. Someone in the comments will know what the three things were, and I'll talk about that. No, it's not drink. It's like three things. You iron your shirts or something. You iron. Anyway, I'll find, I'll remember what those three, anyway, let's take a step back though and be serious here. It is beyond parody though that Marco Rubio, the secretary, Do you understand who the Houthis are, the history? Does he really think that? Does he just think everybody's so stupid? Does he think when he does the hand motions also that we all are just like, okay, Marco, I guess they got snookered into this.
50:56They got snookied from the Jersey Shore into this. That's what happened. Yeah, that's what happened to the Houthis. The Houthis are allied with Iran. They didn't get snookered into anything. the history. Iran traveled to Sanaa Airport July 13th. They delivered weapons and military equipment, and they've been doing that for a long time. The access of resistance is Iran, is Hezbollah, is the Houthis. Iran set up a mosaic, decentralized defense structure that if there were to be an attack on Iran, they'd be able to escalate in a way to destroy the global economy and to inflict maximum amount of pain if they had to do that.
51:40I mean, if you think about
51:42Ben Meiselas:in wildlife or some animals that are weaker than, let's say, like a shark, like a poisonous puffer fish versus a shark or something, ultimately, you're not going to be... I don't know if this is a good example, but you get the point that I'm trying to make. One may actually be a lot more powerful, but the other has developed a strategy that if something were to attack, it's mutually assured destruction and everybody dies. The shark and the puffer, everybody, right? Everybody feels a massive amount of pain. And so what Iran was able to do and what they mapped out also with its proxies in the region is the strategy they're implementing right now.
52:28Ben Meiselas:And by the way, it doesn't just stop at the Houthis. It's also in Somalia. They have the access right there as well of resistance, as they call it, which is also bordering through the eastern side of Somalia on the Red Sea. So from the west in Yemen, from the east in Somalia, you can shut down the Red Sea. And Somalia really hasn't been activated yet, but they could. You can shut down the Red of Iran as well, it can easily target these other areas. It's proximity to the UAE. It's proximity to Bahrain. It's proximity to Qatar. It's proximity to all of these countries. What Iran realized was its mistake before is that it would attack Israel right away, but Israel was well-funded by the United States and had the Iron Dome.
53:20And Iran's learning lesson was, why would you go after Israel?
53:26Ben Meiselas:They have a massive military they've got the Iron Dome. The bases in the Arab nations, if you look at how they were positioned, actually form the first layer of the Iron Dome to protect the actual Iron Dome in Israel. In other words, if you think about your chessboard, if you will, the very first line are actually the Arab nations and those U.S. bases over there were actually structured in a way to protect Israel. So what Iran realized and what its strategy is, is, okay, let's pick off these bases first. Let's not. We'll figure out what we're going to do with Israel later. But why bring them involved in this fight as of now?
54:09Ben Meiselas:Let's pick off these other air bases. So if you look at the strikes, Iran's getting rid of and hitting radar bases, early detection in all of these Arab nations that form the first line of the perimeter where Israel is. Secondarily, Iran has activated the Houthis and Bab el-Mandaab to shut down these Saudi tankers over there. One of the reasons that I suspected that Trump was giving our semiconductor technology classified to UAE and nuclear stuff to, we'll see what even happens to Saudi Arabia, was because our security umbrella failed there. So Trump now has to give him something for the quid pro quos that he was involved, you know, that he was involved with.
54:50Ben Meiselas:And so Iran is now implementing a strategy that anybody who knew what I just knew would tell you this was exactly what they were going to do. It's what I was saying before the war started. And let me say this to myself about me. I don't have access to the information that the top people in the government have. And if I knew that, then they should clearly know that. And I think from someone like a Marco Rubio or a whoever, if they articulated what I just said publicly, we would know what's happening. And you could at least, I think this war is catastrophic and unlawful. We should never be involved in it.
55:38I'll be very clear. This whole thing is a catastrophe.
55:42Ben Meiselas:you you should at least though explain publicly what what is happening and what the dynamic is rather than say that the huthies were on a jersey shore episode with snooki or something like that whatever rubio was saying snookered all right let's take our last quick break of the show make sure you get your copy of wtf america right now i'll see you also patreon.com slash midas touch after the brother show last quick break we still have some show to go i like that i like that Put WTF right now in the chat if you pre-ordered. We'll be right back after our last quick break. If you've ever actually looked at the ingredient list on your dog's food, it gets pretty wild after the first ingredient.
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59:55And then I said, is he saying that they were snooky from Jersey Shore because it's just as ridiculous and absurd as saying that the Houthis were somehow snookered. So that's how I got there. That makes you want to stay and watch this more. Look, in all seriousness, though, right now, things are rapidly escalating in this catastrophic and unlawful war. Based on the latest reporting, over 150 medical personnel have on an emergency basis been moved to Germany right now. 10 medevac flights are taking place in the region as well, where it does seem that numerous of the containerized barracks have been hit recently.
1:00:44I believe the Trump regime is covering up additional casualty numbers, at least injuries. I don't know about fatalities. I think I can confidently say that they're understating the injuries, I believe, by multiples of three to five times. And they're downplaying the injuries and saying things are minor concussions when there's no such thing as a minor concussion. It's a traumatic brain injury. Last week, right, I did numerous videos last week where the titles of my videos were where basically Trump is losing control as he hides casualties, as he hides air bases being destroyed. I did numerous videos like that.
1:01:23And I got a lot of comments basically saying, well, why are you saying these things? I'm not hearing it anywhere else. Are you telling us the truth? Why are you saying these things? Are you the only one saying these things? That didn't happen. No one else is saying these things. And look, do I get it right all of the time? I mean,
1:01:40Ben Meiselas:no one can get it right all of the time, but the United States has banned the satellite companies from showing the photos that used to be taken in the Middle East, this open source stuff. There's companies that do these photos for private entities. One of them is called Planet Labs, but they and others have been banned from showing photos of the Middle East. So a lot of the satellite footage that we get comes from open source intelligence from China. You can't ban, you know, just think about it. You know, as Trump's out there saying, you know, China's, you know, bans everything and all this information.
1:02:19Ben Meiselas:The China footage is there. So and it's been accurate to date. It hasn't been inaccurate. So we look at those. There's other open source intelligence satellite images from other countries as well that make its way out there from Russia and elsewhere. I don't like that I have to rely on that, but I do want to know, is it accurate? I'm like, is it showing me fake AI images of the bases being destroyed? Or are these images actually containerized barracks in Kuwait and Jordan and Al-Udeed and others being destroyed? Is the footage of Al-Udeed base, the one in Qatar, being totally abandoned at this point?
1:02:59Ben Meiselas:There's no US aircraft or other equipment in Al-Udeed in Qatar. Think about that. and we're saying we're strong, we abandoned the base. We've abandoned numerous bases in the region. You can see that from the satellite footage, and you can see where Iran has done direct hits. Now, sometimes the IRGC will say, we killed lots of soldiers in Syria, and that proves not to be true. And I'm trying to be very careful when, just because the IRGC or Tasneem News or MERS or FARS reports on something, I don't go, well, Tasneem must be, I understand very well that in the theater of war, you're going to get propaganda from Iran.
1:03:45Ben Meiselas:You're going to get propaganda from the United States. In the past, while I think we all knew we were getting propaganda from the United States government, I at least thought that when CENTCOM would post something, it wouldn't just border on the, not border on, be worse than the Baghdad Bob type of propaganda, right? I mean, when you see what CENTCOM posts these days, well, they'll say, truth, the Strait of Hormuz is opened. It is free for everybody. Ships are sailing through and things are amazing. Do y 'all remember, since I'm doing pop culture references. My wife had no clue what I was talking about here, but help me out on this one.
1:04:29Starship Troopers. Remember Starship Troopers? I think they live in Argentina at the time and they would go to war against the space aliens and all of that. And on Starship Troopers,
1:04:41Ben Meiselas:they would have their CENTCOM, right? And they would have their media. Another great day for the Starship Troopers. Here's the footage from over. And they would show the footage and then after the propaganda footage would roll and you would actually see what's... I think I'm going to watch that. I don't know with what time I'm going to watch it. But with my fake imaginary time, I'm going to watch Starship Troopers one of these days again. Like, what are you talking about, Ben? You're not like sleeping right now in general. But I do want to watch Starship Troopers. In my make-believe life, I'm going to watch it.
1:05:16Ben Meiselas:But then when you would actually see what was happening in the planet, like the aliens were like taking out all of the... and they were not winning the war. And all of the comets, remember those aliens would launch the comets into Earth and they always get hit. And I'm like, how'd that happen?
1:05:36Ben Meiselas:Between 1984 Starship Troopers and all of these things, it's absurd. It's absurd what CENTCOM is saying. I mean, that guy, Admiral Brad Cooper, the head of CENTCOM, I mean, is a clown. and lots of top military people tell me privately that they think this guy is a clown. He's be clowned himself. He wasn't before, but anytime that guy speaks and he says the stuff, you know, that he knows will please Trump and Hegseth. I mean, it's sad, but Admiral Brad Cooper, the head of CENCOM is a clown. He's a liar. And I hate to say that. I really do. Because I thought But CENCOM, that was untouchable. But no, the Trump regime tainted CENCOM.
1:06:25Ben Meiselas:And their social media account, frankly, is less accurate a lot of times than what I read on Tasneem. That's crazy. That's absurd that I see them posting these things. I see the images. And I see CENCOM saying the Strait of Hormuz is open. And I'm like, am I really looking at Tasneem? Am I looking at Tasnim and Mares and Fars and these statements? And they appear to be more accurate than what CENTCOM is saying to me. You know, CENTCOM will say no troops are killed in the region when they know the troops were killed in the region. Then you find out two days later there were troops killed and they were covering it up, which makes me want to go back even more.
1:07:10Ben Meiselas:you know, and I remember the war with the Houthis that lots of people don't talk about anymore in 2025 with the signal chat. Remember Hegseth and all these people were communicating on the, Mike Waltz, who used to be, you know, in the national security advisor. And then now he became, he got promoted to the ambassador of the United Nations after inviting in that Jeffrey Goldberg guy from the Atlantic onto the signal chat where they were like giving away the war plans. Remember they would say back then that Starship Troopers would come on. Another airplane mysteriously fell off the aircraft carrier into the water.
1:07:50Ben Meiselas:We're not sure how this happened, but Donald Trump has a plan. He's going to do a deal with the Houthis, who are very brave, very courageous people, according to Donald Trump. It has no relation to the fact that F-15s are falling off of aircraft carriers at all. America has won another war, right? This was May 2025, what Donald Trump said about the Houthis. Let's play it. Take a look. But we had really a very good, as you know, We had a very good outcome with the Houthis, and we honor their word. I mean, they made a commitment, and we dealt with other countries that were close to them and their surrogates.
1:08:41And we honor all of their words. We'll see what happens, but I think, you know, I believe that hopefully that's over with. And they'll leave the ships alone, you know, just leave those ships alone. But so we do. We take their word for it. it was, you know, we hit them very hard. They had a great capacity to withstand punishment. They took tremendous punishment. And, you know, you could say there's a lot of bravery there. It was amazing what they took. But we honor their commitment and their word. They gave us their word that they wouldn't be shooting ships anymore. And we honor that. I want to thank you We honor him.
1:09:23Ben Meiselas:We honor your word, Houthis. Just want to let you know. And why we so loudly and are often falsely accused of being hyperbolic is because these moments are existential. I'm going to scream from the rooftop, WTF is that. And to me, treating that as normal is actually hyperbolic in a self-defeating way, not accurately calling it out and saying WTF. You know what I mean? If you go back to everything he does, it looks like that. We could talk about the reflecting pool and vandals that he makes up. You can talk about COVID like a miracle. It's all going to go away. You can talk about the nuclear deal he claims he's making with Saudi Arabia and then says they need to join the Abraham Accords and they don't need to join the Abraham Accords and that the enrichment is not going to be allowed, even though that's the way civil use nuclear energy works.
1:10:40There's enrichment just at a certain level. You know, you, you, you, this is what he says about Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the war there. It's a good deal. Putin had a great, we had a
1:10:52Ben Meiselas:great conversation. It's very close to being resolved. Really, it's very close to being resolved. I see Kiev and Zyprosia and Donetsk and all of these areas. And Odessa, I see Russia striking very hard in Ukraine every day. I see Ukraine with its FP1, FP2, FP5 drones and ballistics hitting Russia very hard. I see the Wildberries facilities, which are their logistical centers getting blown up in Russia and Moscow region and other areas nearby. I see war everywhere right now. And, you know, it's all good. Everything's great. Never been better. Could you imagine what it would have been like under Joe Biden and Kamala?
1:11:42Kamala and Joe Biden. I brought in all these billions of dollars. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, dude, shut up. And clearly you look at his polling data, latest Pew Research poll, his approval's at 34%. he'll be in the 30s. He'll be in the low 30s soon. I talk about this in WTF America. There are 28 % to 30 % of Americans
1:12:12Ben Meiselas:that like this, that actually like this. And we're never going to get through to them. It just is. They like this. I can't I can try to give you explanations and you can say well is it racism, is it hating immigrants, is it feeling like they're going to be part of the club is it there is 70 % of the country who doesn't like this shit I go into this as a big part of WTF America that I talk about, because what Trump is able to do, though, is if you start with the 30%, politics is a game of addition, not subtraction. It's simple. Democrats often view politics as a game of subtraction, not addition, which is a problem.
1:13:16Ben Meiselas:And who can you get rid of? who can you get out of versus who can you bring in? It can be very simple. By the way, I hate politics. I go on these rants, so I'm evaluating it from a more pragmatic level, though, of my observation, because the day-to-day politics, I just, not for me. I care about people and principles and values and fighting for people where those align with politics. Great. But that's increasingly where I'm at. All politicians will let you down, but it's important that we find people who truly fight and who are aligned with values and principles. But what Trump does, if you start with 28 or 30%, then you go and you make promises to all these other groups.
1:14:00Ben Meiselas:And for Trump, he lies to all of them. The Maha Moms, I'm going to give you all of this, or the Jim Alpha, looks max whatever the hell you know the you know i i'm gonna give you this i'm gonna give you know this group this i'm gonna give that group that it's often all kind of contradictory and it's all lies and you know the crypto people i'm gonna give you all of this okay cryptos crashed never been worse glyphosate all these pesticides donald trump promote every one of these groups this cultural reference may make sense. It makes sense to me, at least. I hope it makes sense to you because I discuss it in the book too, is you know how the bad guy in the cartoons that you grew up with, or I grew up with, you know, would be like a soul sucker.
1:14:51Ben Meiselas:And the way they got their energy is by taking away the energy from the, you know, the other people. And so Trump will go kind of group by group, you know, he has his kind of 30%, 20 % base, then it goes to other people and just kind takes it takes it and you know now they promote glyphosate it's the preferred pesticide it's the measles outbreaks so it's like great great work maha great work you know the you get literally got the worst you know the worst person you know the crypto people trump made a lot of money on crypto look at the price of bitcoin look at the price of crypto you know look at all these nft they all crashed under trump trump just you know trump destroyed it um go one by one by one you But this is what he's done his whole life.
1:15:32Ben Meiselas:This is what he's done his whole life. He's bankrupted most things he's touched. I don't say that in a hyperbolic way. He has objectively. He's bankrupted this casino, that casino, this company, that company, this thing, and that thing. And you see why he has a demented pathology. He's a demented psychotic thing. That's why He bankrupts all of these things. What was happening, what was going to happen if he escalated the war in Iran is deeply obvious. I'm not trying to be like, oh, I figured it out. It's obvious. There's a lot of the stuff that I've said about what would happen in Bab al-Mandab, what would happen in the Strait of Hormuz, how the Houthis would respond, how Hezbollah would respond, how Iran would utilize its access of resistance groups, how it would activate all of the, how Iran would respond.
1:16:25Ben Meiselas:You could have studied Iran's response in 2024 in Tel Aviv. You could have studied Iran's Shahid drone production and how the Shahids were helping Russia invade Ukraine and that that was one of the big things that have kept Russia in their invasion was Iranian weapons. You can study the Iranian culture, or you can just stereotype Iranians and pretend they're cavemen and that all they do is scream Allah Akbar every day and they don't know what they're doing and they're begging for deals. That's just stupid. Don't be stupid. but respect what the civilization is able to accomplish, respect that they have some of the best engineering ever.
1:17:15Ben Meiselas:You have to have a deep understanding of what's happening. We should never go to war at all. Let me be very clear that this war is catastrophic. It's unlawful. It's horrible. But we have to be approaching this, everything, with a sense of the most basic of logic, and we're not. Trump doing tariffs against the world, painting the reflecting pool blue, doing this war. Your lesson after inflation rising because of tariffs is to do more tariffs. And you may go, what the hell? Doesn't he see that everybody, that this is the worst and the tariffs are bad? And it's not for Donald. He's getting richer every day, just like when his companies went bankrupt.
1:18:02Ben Meiselas:He didn't give a shit about the shareholders. He didn't give a shit about the credit or anything he cares about any of that. No, he would get rich. Then he'd move on to the next one and then the next one and then the next one and then the next one. That's what he would do. And that's what he's doing right now. And for Iran also, though, You think about the historic moment for them and the historical perspective that they have. And now they get someone as dumb and idiotic and as selfish and stupid as Trump for them, who keeps lying about them wanting to make deals. I mean, just think about civilization-wise the opportunity that they probably also go see in this moment that Trump, if he continues to escalate and escalate, which he seems intent on doing, this could go – look, Trump could have done the MOU.
1:19:06Ben Meiselas:and in our culture where people forget about this, that, and the other thing, if inflation leveled out, if things got somewhat back to normal, if he just stopped talking about Iran and the next distractions, sadly, perhaps the accountability levers may not have even been there. We would have been calling them out. Hopefully, independent media would have been able to make sure. I think people would remember. But even with the horrors that he did, if he did the MOU, things are getting back to normal. But he's incapable. He's not going to end until he loses every chip on the table. And sadly, though chips on the table now, it's America.
1:19:53Ben Meiselas:It's our history. It's who we are. It's our people. It's people in the world, actually. It's not just you know, unique to us. And this is one of these kind of generational, world-defining, polar-shifting moments where this guy every day is doing a catastrophic damage to the United States history. And it's not me being hyper-like, like, to our future. It is literally, it is that significant what's taking place right now. And that's how it needs to be reported. That's how maybe once upon a time when reporting was really the fourth estate, they would say it, but that's what's happening right now.
1:20:47Ben Meiselas:And so he'll escalate further and further. We'll run out of munitions. Iran will feel further emboldened. They're not being destroyed. They're not being obliterated. They don't want to make a deal. They have every incentive right now. There's no deal to be made with Trump. He's a liar about everything. Iran knows$100 a barrel,$120 a barrel,$150 a barrel. Market will continue to tank each and every day. That's what's going to happen. And then Iran can just keep this going. Trump sends and ground forces, that'll be catastrophic.
1:21:29Ben Meiselas:Iran has the cards right. And to me, it doesn't make me unpatriotic to say that. Frankly, I think if you're a true, although the term has been co-opted, patriot, patriot, but if you're actually patriotic and you care about the country and you care about what you hope this country could stand for, you would be saying the things that I think I'm saying. I think that's how you actually fight for this country is by calling out the truth and trying to course correct, trying to do something to get us back to, to get us the hell out of there. But Iran sees what's happening. Look, we covered a lot of material today.
1:22:12Ben Meiselas:I don't look, I'm going to cover a lot more with the brothers, a lot more clips, a lot more insight into what's happening. Do me a favor. If you pre-order WTF America right now, I didn't give away the whole book. That was just one of the chapters that was on my mind. But the whole point of the book also is that I don't hide things. I don't hide things that you only could find out if they're in the book. That's not the style of this. But this to me is something that will live on a framework for thinking generationally of getting out of this death loop of Trump and MAGA. And it's inspired by the Midas Mighty.
1:22:48Ben Meiselas:So pre-order it right now, wherever the pre-order thing is, there or there. I don't know. I'm not a weatherman. I don't know where to point. Put WTF if you're going to order it now. I want to give also a special shout out as well to all of the folks over, all my editors, all the people who are working hard at the Midas Touch Network right now every single day. Thank you. It's been a lot of sleepless nights here. I want to thank all of you, the Midas Mighty, for staying in this fight, trying to bring you all the accurate coverage day in, day out over here. I want to give a shout out to the folks that fight for progress.
1:23:30Ben Meiselas:Subscribe to their YouTube channel. Watch that full story about tariffs are killing us. And then put in the comments that I sent you. You can even say WTF America or Ben sent us, watch the full video. It's about nine minutes long and it's definitely worth your time to watch. We'll keep our coverage going throughout the day. Patreon.com slash Midas Touch as well. We'll talk about the book, behind the scenes info about the book. All right. I've been talking for a long time. What was I going to say? Jim Tan Laundry. Snooki from Jersey Shore, Jim Tan Laundry. starship troopers the bad guy from captain planet we covered a lot of it is it's some of this stuff is so it's so difficult that sometimes having these um references helps us i think digest it a little bit better and helps us communicate and convey things a little better thanks everybody i'll see you tonight i'll see you on patreon hopefully you've ordered the book thank you love you appreciate you see you next time have a good one everybody Want to stay plugged in?
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