🚨Top Trump Official Suddenly Resigns as Admin Collapses!!

13 May 2026 · 20 min · 5 chapters

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In short

The episode claims the Trump administration is “collapsing” via forced resignations, focusing on FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makari’s abrupt exit after refusing to approve flavored vapes marketed to children.

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Key claims

Makari was pressured to resign (threatened with immediate firing) for not supporting Donald Trump’s push to authorize fruit-flavored e-cigarettes (mango, cherry, lemon/lime, blueberry). The host alleges Trump humiliated Makari by posting his resignation text message. It also claims Makari previously advanced psychedelics via “priority vouchers” based on Joe Rogan texting Trump, and that Makari promoted anti-vaccine misinformation, vaccine schedule changes, and a “corrupt” food pyramid overhaul.

Notable examples

Makari’s resignation text praising FDA reforms; allegations about psychedelics approval after Rogan messages; April 23, 2026 C-SPAN/Congress questioning; claims about COVID vaccine risk-benefit reasoning and NIH “virus” disinformation.

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Dr. Marty Makari's Resignation from the FDA

1:31 to 5:08

Explore the reasons behind Dr. Makari's forced resignation under Trump.

“With great everyday prices on 365 brand ground beef for the grill and ice cream for dessert, they have yellow sales signs on ready-to-cook beef or chicken kebabs too.”

Trump's Humiliation Tactics

5:08 to 9:10

Learn about Trump's behavior and tactics used to humiliate Dr. Makari.

“Here's what Macari wrote to Donald Trump.”

FDA Approval Controversies

10:30 to 14:04

Delve into the issues surrounding FDA approvals and political influence.

“Like that's not what happens at all, but that's Donald Trump's, you know, that was Donald Trump and Macari's view.”

Debate on Vaccine Safety and Health Policies

14:04 to 17:45

Explore the controversies surrounding vaccine safety and public health regulations.

“bragged that one of the big scourges was the food pyramid he called it a very corrupt food pyramid and he was proud of getting rid of the most, the biggest problem facing America, a corrupt food pyramid.”

The Unhinged Nature of the Trump Regime

17:51 to 18:51

Analysis of the chaotic actions and impacts of the Trump administration.

“Donald Trump's view, glyphosate, a herbicide, carcinogen, for everybody.”
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2:31Ben Meiselas:Another top Trump regime official has abruptly quit, or I should say, was forced to resign under the threat of being immediately fired. The Trump regime in full collapse. It seems not a week passes where there is not another termination of a major official or cabinet member. The latest to quit or to be forced to resign, Dr. Marty Makari, who is the FDA commissioner. The reason that he was forced to resign was that he did not support, apparently, Donald Trump's push to help the tobacco industry by authorizing additional flavored vapes to be marketed to children. Now, let's be very clear. Dr. Marty Makari, not a good guy, a massive anti-vaxxer, a massive conspiracy theorist who pushed lies and propaganda and who was a major threat to science, to health, to the American public at large.

3:40Ben Meiselas:He's one of the people who was largely responsible with RFK Jr. and Donald Trump in changing the vaccine schedule. But the last straw for him in the Trump regime had nothing to do with any of that. It was that he was like, do we really have to advertise flavored vapes to children? And Donald Trump was like, yeah, my buddies in the tobacco industry, they want children to have flavored vapes. So shut up and approve it. And Macari was like, I don't want to do it. And so that was it for Donald Trump. And Trump was like, see you later. You need to resign immediately. And so Donald Trump then put Macari through a humiliation ritual.

4:23Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump made, to make an example out of Macari, Trump made Macari text message him his resignation. And then before Macari was able to himself let the public know that he was leaving, Donald Trump immediately posted the text message in order to humiliate Macari to make example of him for other people who dare oppose giving vapes to little children. Donald Trump posted this message, a text message from Marty Macari. I just want you to think right now of any employment setting. If any boss in any employment setting did this, you would say the worst human to work for. That's Donald Trump for you.

5:05Ben Meiselas:The worst human to work for. frankly, the worst human right now. Here's what Macari wrote to Donald Trump. And it seems that he was either saying, was he saying dear president Trump, or does he call Donald Trump doctor? Does Donald Trump make Macari call him doctor? Because he goes, Dr. President Trump, or maybe it was dear. Please accept my resignation effective today. During my tenure, I announced 50 major FDA reforms. Joe Biden's FDA had none. I'm extremely proud that we reduced drug review times from a year to one to two months, wrote new guidance to advance psychedelics, introduced a new plausible mechanism pathway for rare disease drugs, and changed estrogen labels to tell women the truth about menopausal hormone replacement.

5:53Ben Meiselas:It's been an honor of a lifetime to serve as your FDA commissioner. I am forever grateful, Dr. Marty Makari. Now, the approval of these psychedelics without going through any scientific method happened because Joe Rogan text messaged Donald Trump and said, I want these to be approved by the FDA. And then Donald Trump said to Makari, you better approve him. And then Donald Trump brought in Joe Rogan while the war against Iran was absolutely raging. Remember that weird Joe Rogan press conference that happened over the weekend? Yeah, that weekend during the war. Macari was involved in that. So then Donald Trump posts, I want to thank Dr.

6:35Ben Meiselas:Marty Macari for having done a great job at the FBA. So much was accomplished under his leadership. He was a hard worker who was respected by all and will go on to have an outstanding career. Let's talk about his resignation one more time. As Frank Lutz, a right-wing commentator and pollster says, and he's quoting a New York Times article, Macari left over concerns about the FDA's decision to authorize fruit-flavored vapes. He told those close to him that he cannot in good conscience approve flavored vapes due to their appeal to young people. And Donald Trump wanted those flavored vapes approved.

7:14Ben Meiselas:There were mango flavors and cherry flavors and lemon line flavors that Donald Trump said, you've got to approve. Now, let's go bring out some additional receipts. Back in April of 2026, Macari appeared on C-SPAN where they asked him, so how often on a weekly basis are you interacting with Donald Trump? Here's what he said right here. Play this clip. How often on a weekly basis are you interacting with President Trump? How interested is he in the day-to-day operations at the FDA? Well, I can tell you, President Trump is not afraid to make it very clear to all of us that we have to stay on mission to lower drug prices for everyday Americans, see more cures and meaningful treatments for the American public, especially those with cancer and debilitating conditions and things kids suffer from, including rare diseases, and healthier food for children.

8:10And so we have interactions every few weeks, almost several times a week with the staff at the White House. And because we rely on that charge and that vision to do our day to day work. And I'm very proud to report that we've announced 40 major reforms year to date in the Trump administration at the FDA.

8:34Ben Meiselas:Then Donald Trump was asked yesterday, did you ask Macari to resign or did you fire him? and Donald Trump to humiliate Macari's like, I don't want to say. In other words, Donald Trump forced him to resign over vapes. Let's play this clip.

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10:36Ben Meiselas:So then Donald Trump and Macari earlier in the year, as you know, announced a new childhood vaccine schedule, which was absolutely devastating and is absolutely devastating and fatal to children, removing recommendations from doctors and pediatricians, and basically saying that Donald Trump's view that little babies are given like gallons of vaccines to inject in themselves. Like that's not what happens at all, but that's Donald Trump's, you know, that was Donald Trump and Macari's view. And so I'll show you right here, this important moment, just to show you what a bad guy Macari is. This is April 23rd, 2026.

11:20Ben Meiselas:And this was when Democratic Congress member, Aukenkloss, cross-examines RFK Jr. about Macari and him making available these psychedelics without going through a process. Whatever we think about psychedelics one way or another, you shouldn't have Joe Rogan sending a text message and that constitutes FDA approval. But that's how things would get approved. Joe Rogan sends a message, approved. Come on, here, play this clip. There's in fact a program called the Commissioner's National Priority voucher program. I've been investigating that as well for the last six months. This program expressly allows political leaders to short circuit science and pick and choose politically favored treatments.

12:03Now, White House and FDA leadership have pressed staff to award vouchers to certain companies as part of White House pressure campaigns. And most recently and egregiously, the FDA just issued three of those vouchers for psychedelics based on a text from Joe Rogan. And one of those psychedelics was denied by the FDA in 2024. So let's just go through what happened here. Joe Rogan had a guest on his podcast, and the guest was talking about psychedelics. Joe Rogan texted the president of the United States, and the president texted back, quote, sounds great. Do you want FDA approval? Let's do it, end quote.

12:41That was from the president of the United States. So just to be clear, is the president of the United States allowed to grant FDA approval? Is the president of the United States allowed to grant FDA approval? Career staff at FDA all supported that decision. Is the president of the United States allowed to grant FDA approval? Because he thinks he is. Is he wrong? He doesn't do it. He doesn't do it. So and yet the FDA within hours issued three priority vouchers from this illegal unauthorized program to respond to political pressure from the White House. Secretary, this flies in the face of your stated commitment to putting science over politics.

13:19We are literally seeing politics put over science. Now, let's just understand why the president might have bent over to do the bidding of Joe Rogan. He has a disastrous war in Iran that has led even his most committed supporters in his base, like Joe Rogan, to question his competence. And in order to appease Joe Rogan's ire, he grants FDA approval. safety and efficacy should be the standard for these drugs you want a grandstand or do you want an answer not you want a grandstand or do you want an answer i want safety and efficacy to be the standards by which psychedelics are approved not the president's attempt to shore up support from his base for a disastrous war in iran it should not be joe rogan's decision what psychedelics are approved it should be the decision of randomized controlled trial now makari also

14:04Ben Meiselas:bragged that one of the big scourges was the food pyramid he called it a very corrupt food pyramid and he was proud of getting rid of the most, the biggest problem facing America, a corrupt food pyramid. Everybody, let's play this clip. With the new food pyramid that we put out, we ended what was a corrupt food pyramid with an open secret that it never talked about ultra processed foods, refined carbohydrates, or the importance of fiber on those carbohydrates. It was just calories in, calories out. It didn't matter what the junk food was you put in. It was just a calorie scale. He was asked, do you believe that there's no vaccine that's safe and effective?

14:46Ben Meiselas:Here was his response about that. Just as baseline, since this is the topic, Secretary Kennedy, before he was secretary, had said that there's no vaccine that is safe and effective. Do you agree with that? Well, look, if every single medical product, I can just tell you as a physician, What we have to do is evaluate the safety to risk benefit ratio. That is, every single product in all of medicine has some side effect profile. And for some, it's rare. And so that's the general framework. And that's what I think he was referring to. Then he claimed that an NIH funding lab brewed up a virus that killed 20 million people.

15:31Ben Meiselas:Just he was a spreader of COVID disinformation. Let's play this clip. We're planning to change our health agencies for a generation or longer. Look at the NIH. When Jay Bhattacharya came in there, it was a mess. 14 % of the grants were descriptive studies on health equity. And the NIH had just funded a lab that brewed up a virus that killed 20 million people worldwide. So they're getting back to studying root causes, a cure for cancer, debilitating neurodegenerative diseases. And they're going to do good work. And then he would talk about how hundreds of thousands of Americans have claimed that the COVID vaccine was incredibly harmful to them.

16:09Ben Meiselas:Let's play this clip. We talked about the risk calculation that young kids didn't need it. They didn't suffer from COVID. They didn't need to run the risk of the shot. Did that factor into your decision as well, that we're not appropriately measuring the risk of vaccine injury for someone who may not be getting the benefit designed because they weren't at risk for COVID? Well, as you know, Will, hundreds of thousands of Americans have claimed that they have been injured by the COVID vaccine. And so we've got to listen. It takes a lot of time to do a proper analysis that hasn't been done to date.

16:46And it's got to go into the factored into the equation. Now, the recommendation was really based on the voice of many doctors across the country who have said, look at the rest of the world, look at Europe and look at where we are. We need a more science based, evidence based approach.

17:02Ben Meiselas:And of course, as I said, he was a purveyor of lies, a purveyor of all this disinformation. But the reality is Trump became frustrated with Macari for not moving fast enough to approve flavored vapes and other nicotine products. Macari refused to authorize it was blueberry and mango in addition to other flavors from LA manufacturer Glass, a big Trump supporting group worried that fruit flavors would encourage youth vaping. After the pressure from Trump, he reversed course, authorized the flavors, but Trump forced him out anyway. And this guy was despised by everybody. Everybody hated him. The Trump MAGA The people despised him.

17:42Ben Meiselas:The people who don't like Trump despised him. And I'll just leave everybody with this. Maha, make America healthy again. Donald Trump's view, glyphosate, a herbicide, carcinogen, for everybody. You get glyphosate. You get glyphosate. You get glyphosate. In fact, we're going to invoke the Defense Production Act to push out glyphosate to as many people as possible. We're going to file amicus briefs before the United States Supreme Court to say that state failure to warn laws are preempted by FDA regs and other health department regs and the federal level, which the Trump regime argued allow the proliferation of glyphosate.

18:27Ben Meiselas:So state laws, yeah, state rights, state laws and failure to warn, they should all be preempted by Donald Trump's view of glyphosate for everybody. flavored vapes, get them in the mouths of little children, blueberry flavors, lemon, lime flavors, mango flavors. This Trump regime is unhinged and it's coming apart before our eyes. Let me know what you think, folks. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million subscribers, y 'all. Thanks for watching.

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