Total Chaos Engulfs Capitol as GOP Closes Down Congress!!

7 May 2026 · 26 min · 7 chapters

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In short

The episode alleges GOP leaders shut down Congress to avoid scrutiny of Howard Lutnick’s deposition/interview tied to Jeffrey Epstein, plus claims about related political spending, voting-district changes, and broader media/political responses.

Guests

No named guests appear in the transcript. The “host”/speaker is a single commentator (Midas Touch Network). Mentions include public figures: Howard Lutnick, James Comer, Mike Johnson, Donald Trump, Pam Bondi, Hillary/Bill Clinton, Tim Walz, Keith Ellison, and Democratic members Ro Khanna and Adam Subramanian.

Key claims

Lutnick lied about Epstein contacts; deposition was converted to a non-oath, non-video transcribed interview; Congress shutdown was a cover-up; Republicans are redirecting funds (e.g., Trump ballroom) and seeking to eliminate Black representation in districts after a Supreme Court ruling.

Notable examples

Lutnick allegedly met Epstein multiple times, brought children to Epstein’s Island; Comer’s comments about “protecting victims”; clips mocking Obama/Colbert; references to E. Jean Carroll case efforts; energy/tank-bottom warnings.

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Chapters

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Chaos in Congress: GOP Shutdown and Cover-up

3:07 to 6:00

Discover the events leading to Congress shutting down as GOP faces scrutiny.

“Clause 13 of Rule 1, the House stands adjourned until 9 a.m.”

Howard Lutnick's Deposition and GOP Maneuvers

6:00 to 9:10

Learn about Howard Lutnick's deposition and the GOP's attempts to control the narrative.

“watchers, these liberals with the purple hair watching videos of Lutnant.”

James Comer's Comments and GOP Response

9:10 to 11:30

Examine James Comer's remarks post-deposition and the GOP's defensive stance.

“So we asked some very substantive questions the first hour.”

MAGA Republicans and the Shutdown of Congress

14:11 to 16:44

Discussion on MAGA Republicans' agenda and its implications for representation and healthcare.

“Well, $1 billion going to Donald Trump's ballroom, the new reconciliation bill.”

The Influence of Donald Trump

16:44 to 19:20

Exploration of Trump's ongoing influence and the perceptions of MAGA Republicans.

“By the way, here was Lutnik squirming and looking so guilty in the halls of Congress play this clip.”

Conversations on Epstein and Congressional Actions

19:20 to 21:48

Insights into the controversies surrounding Epstein and Congressional representatives' actions.

“why because we we need to go on offense against the democrats can you imagine what oil prices would be today if joe biden were actually in office uh and the the straits of harmuz were being were being closed by Iran.”

Howard Lutnick's Testimony and Credibility Issues

21:48 to 24:21

Analysis of Howard Lutnick's testimony and its implications for public trust.

“Then I saw in the news as things played out, the story kept shifting.”
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3:56Ben Meiselas:I mean, look at it. It looks like a Donald Trump post. Separately, you had the Justice Department rushing to the Supreme Court in order to try to intervene and demand that the Supreme Court overturn the case where Donald Trump was found civilly liable for sexual assault and defamation. But what the main cover-up was all about yesterday as the GOP went into cover-up mode was the fact that Howard Lutnick was supposed to have his deposition taken yesterday. It was supposed to be an under oath video deposition. We all know Howard Lutnick, Donald Trump's commerce secretary, lied and said he had no connection with Epstein except he met Epstein once in 2005.

4:37Ben Meiselas:Never met him again because Lutnick said after I met him this one time because Epstein was his neighbor. he was so disgusting. I knew he was a blackmailer. I knew he was a pervert. I knew he did bad things with little girls. So I would never be around that creep ever again. Me and my wife talked about it. We then found in the Epstein files that Lutnik had numerous points of contact with Epstein and he brought his children to Epstein's Island. Lutnik also brought his friend's children to Epstein Island after Lutnik admitted that he knew all of the bad things about Epstein. So you brought your little kids and you brought the little kids of your friends and you lied to the American people.

5:17Ben Meiselas:And so this was supposed to be an under oath deposition. It was supposed to be on videotape. But Lutnick shows up and working with Donald Trump and Magna Mike Johnson and James Comer, mind you, who shut the house down so people wouldn't be paying attention to this. Right. I think that's the main reason they basically shut down Congress to further cover up the Epstein files and all of these things. What goes on when this deposition starts? Well, James Comer says, well, well, well, well, well, we're not going to actually do a deposition here. We're not going to do Lutnik under oath. We're not going to do a videotape.

5:53Ben Meiselas:We're just going to do a transcribed interview. So it's not under oath, no videotape. And James Comer's like, we don't want them purple hair, MS Now watchers, modest touch watchers, these liberals with the purple hair watching videos of Lutnant. What are you even talking about? And so they did this massive cover-up as they continued to cover up this child sex trafficking ring. So they shut down Congress. They shut down the House. They shut down the Senate because they thought that we wouldn't be paying attention. Well, guess what? Midas Touch Network is now leading all news networks. Independent media is now in the forefront.

6:33Ben Meiselas:And we had our cameras all over the Capitol building to observe the cover-up in action and to call it out and to expose it. We saw Lutnik heading into the room that they turned into this transcribed interview. And then Democrats were out there calling out this massive cover-up. So I did a video on the Democrat response to Lutnik and Comer and Magamike and Trump's cover-up where they had Lutnik just give this transcribed interview and not testify under oath. By the way, they did not release the transcribed interview yesterday. Just think about that. They concealed the transcribed interview so that they could try to mold it and say what's going to happen.

7:15Ben Meiselas:And they can try to manipulate the news cycle in hopes it goes away. And they didn't do it under video. They didn't do it under oath. So it's basically worthless. But here's something that I don't think you've seen anywhere else. And we were able to capture it. And frankly, James Comer wanted to brag about this. So James Comer comes storming out of the deposition room, which is now a transcribed interview room. He comes storming out of there, storms out of his office, and he runs to the media. And our cameras were there as well. And Comer was like, look, everybody, look, look, look. The Democrats are trying to manipulate all of this.

7:49Ben Meiselas:I'm just trying to protect the victims here, okay? And we should be talking about what every American really cares about, which is we should be talking about the Metro Police Department investigation and Minnesota fraud. and we're doing everything we can with Lutnick. Lutnick, so what? He went to the island with his little kitties. Everybody had gone to the island with their little kitties, right? That's what you do. You do with that. That's what you do if you're a Republican. What are you talking? Everyone doesn't bring their little kids there. Just so you can be like, oh, Ben, are you exaggerating?

8:18Ben Meiselas:Listen to what Comer said. And again, mind you, I want to set the scene. They shut down Congress to try to cover all of this up. Well, we ain't falling for it, Comer. Here, play this clip. I feel compelled to have to come out and clean up and correct some of the statements that the Democrats made. I couldn't believe as I was getting updates of what they were saying. And I hope that when you get the transcripts, you fact check them on what they say. This is a habit of the Democrats on this committee coming out, telling you all stuff that was said that was not said. The only cover-up that I've seen on the Oversight Committee is the cover-up of the Democrats trying to cover up our investigations of the Metro Police Department, lying about crime statistics, and the cover-up of the Minnesota fraud by Tim Walts and Keith Ellison, and the cover-up of the hospice fraud in California.

9:14it. So we asked some very substantive questions the first hour. The Democrats, during their hour, repeated the exact same questions because there's only so many questions you can ask Howard Lutton, who had a property next door to Epstein in New York, but talked to him three times over a decade, three interactions over a decade. He was on the island with his family, with his wife and kids, six people in his family and six people in his friend's family for lunch for two hours. And he has admitted that. So the Democrats are going to go another hour. Or I'm sure they're going to try to filibuster and do whatever.

10:07They had a narrative to come in. They were hoping Lutnik wouldn't come in. They were hoping Pam Bondi wouldn't come in. Remember, Pam Bondi came in a month ago to answer questions. The Democrats didn't ask him a single question. The first 20 minutes of the Democrats' question in here, they complained about not having video and not having things to be able to put on MSNBC for their angry purple haired viewers to be outraged over. This is a serious investigation.

10:33Ben Meiselas:Then more from James Comer right here. He goes on to say, look, just think about it. Look how transparent Lutnick was. He showed up and he wanted to speak voluntarily. Dude, it wasn't under oath. It's not a video. It's just a cover up. Then he's like, and Pam Bondi's going to show up as well voluntarily. You're going to do the same thing with Bondi. No video, just a transcribed interview, not under oath. What's the point of these things? What is the point? And by the way, don't take my word for it. James Comer forced Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton to have depositions taken under oath, not transcribed interviews because Comer and MAGA Mike and Donald Trump and all the MAGA Republicans and Jim Jordan said, you don't do transcribed interviews.

11:17Ben Meiselas:Those are worthless. Folks, these people are vile. I don't care what political party you're from. These are vile creatures who cover up child sex trafficking rings. This should not be a Democrat issue. This should not be a Republican issue. This should be a human issue. Damn it. Here play this clip of Comer. It's my understanding he wasn't on the island very long when he was there with his wife and kids, but we'll see what he says. But this is pretty extraordinary to bring in a cabinet secretary or something like this. Yeah, and look, I've been on the oversight committee 10 years, and there's never been a chairman bringing in cabinet secretaries of their own party.

12:01And we have Lutnick coming in today. We have Pam Bondi coming in in a couple of weeks. So I think people can see that this is a bipartisan investigation. We're really sincerely trying to get the truth. Our goal is to provide justice for the victims, and hopefully today will be helpful. All right, I'm not going to lie. Airports bring out the worst in me. I'm trying to hold a coffee and a bottle of water. My phone's at like 2%, and I'm digging through my bag at TSA, trying to pull out my laptop while the line behind me is glaring at me. Most luggage is honestly just like a box on wheels. Nothing about it actually makes travel easier, but that's why I'm obsessed with Noble and their all-in-one carry-on is ridiculously smart.

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14:10Ben Meiselas:What else were MAGA Republicans doing as they shut down Congress? Well, $1 billion going to Donald Trump's ballroom, the new reconciliation bill. Oh, they're working on it. They want all of your tax money to go to Donald Trump's golf courses, his arches, his ballrooms. They write it into reconciliation bills. $1 billion for a freaking ballroom while they rip away your healthcare. That's what Republicans have been working on, but they shut down Congress. They don't want you to see this, but it's in the reconciliation bill. $30 billion more for ICE. MAGA Republicans want to spend another$3.4 billion for Border Patrol, another$2.5 billion to DHS in general.

14:55Ben Meiselas:What else are they doing behind closed doors? Well, they're working with South Carolina to get rid of all Democratic congressional districts in South Carolina, remove all Democratic districts there in Tennessee, get rid of all Democratic districts in Tennessee so there will be zero representation of Black communities. What these Republicans are doing after that Supreme Court ruling, which basically said it is racist to defend anti-racism. It is racist to say that there should be black majority congressional districts and that you shouldn't have states dilute the black vote. The Supreme Court, the right-wing extremist Supreme Court, MAGA Supreme Court goes saying that we need to stop racism.

15:38Ben Meiselas:That's racist because you're talking about race. We've moved beyond racism in this country. No one's racist anymore. That's what the Supreme Court said. These sick, vile people, right? I mean, what else is this? Really? To call out racism you're saying is racist? That's a right-wing extreme fascist court for you. So because of that ruling, all of these MAGA states are saying no more black representation at all. The Voting Rights Act doesn't exist, even though it was a bipartisan piece of legislation in 1965, damn it, where Republicans and Democrats came together and said, we need this. We, the people need this bipartisan.

16:16Ben Meiselas:partisan, our right-wing Supreme Court. God, they didn't know what they were doing in 1965. We know better. We know better. The same court that says, we know corporations are people, and they should have unlimited speech rights corporations to buy elections. What a despicable court. So you have all these MAGA states now doing emergency sessions, getting rid of any district that has black representation. They're doing exactly what the Voting Rights Act was made to present. By the way, here was Lutnik squirming and looking so guilty in the halls of Congress play this clip.

16:53Then we had all of the Trump sycophants out there doing their media

17:09Ben Meiselas:appearances while they're on vacation, while the American people suffer. You have MAGA Republican Senator Kennedy saying, you know, I don't know, man, maybe Obama and Colbert should get a motel together. What's your weird Obama-like sex fantasies, man? Y 'all are a bunch of weird creeps. Play this clip. I also got a kick out of Mr. Colbert. He and President Obama are obviously best buds. I, maybe they ought to get a motel room or something. They were just fawning all over each other. Speaking of weird creeps, then you have MAGA Republican Congress member Tom Emerson, Donald Trump is so strong.

17:51Ben Meiselas:He's an icon for the ages. What a weird cult these magas are. What a weird cult. Play this clip. All of these polls that try to suggest that Donald Trump's influence is waning are completely false. Donald Trump has never been stronger, especially with the Republican base. And you saw it last night in Indiana. He's become more than Donald Trump. He is an icon of the ages. And when he speaks, people listen. And I know the left doesn't like to hear that, Stuart, but it's fact. And you saw it last night on display in Indiana. Yes, the MAGA held together and supported the president on this. I think his political fortune is maybe on the upswing, just a little, we shall see.

18:34Ben Meiselas:And then you heard from MAGA Republican Congress member Jimenez, who said, can you imagine what it would be like if Biden was in office right now? If Biden was in office, gas prices would be through the roof. Biden, gas prices through, what are you talking about? Gas prices were lower under Biden. They came down. Inflation was down under Biden. It went down. Sure, it was up at first because he inherited a freaking fire from Donald Trump and he had to put it out. And corporate news and MAGAs were able to convince the american people that the fire department was the anarchist here's what he says play this clip are you expecting to lose seats in the house for the midterm elections this year um i was but i'm not now you know i'll tell you why i think that the no i'm not and i'll tell you why because we we need to go on offense against the democrats can you imagine what oil prices would be today if joe biden were actually in office uh and the the straits of harmuz were being were being closed by Iran.

19:35We're now energy independent and we're energy dominant. Under him, we were energy dependent. And so the world would be in a much worse place if Joe Biden and the Democrats were in power.

19:46Ben Meiselas:And then, as I mentioned, Donald Trump working with the Justice Department to try to shut down the verdict against him that was affirmed by the Court of Appeals in the E. Jean Carroll case. So disgusting. We did hear from MAGA Republican Congress member Thomas Massey, though, he was able to go on Tucker. And here's what he had to say about Lauren Boebert. Let's play it. They took her over to the situation room, right? Like this is where if they're trying to kill or capture Osama bin Laden, this is where they are at the White House. They took her into the situation room and tried to whip her into taking her name off of the discharge petition.

20:26Over Epstein. Over Epstein. Yep. And then the president vetoed a bill that would have brought water to a large portion of Colorado. Over Epstein. Over Epstein. And this isn't even, at this point, it's not just about Lauren Boebert. Why are people in Colorado deprived of water? Because their representative wants to expose a sex trafficking ring.

20:49Ben Meiselas:I mean, none of this makes any sense at all because it's a losing issue for Trump. and has been, that was the beginning of the end, really. I mean, I think we're at the end. And then here's what he said about Bondi. Let's play it. Public member of the Judiciary Committee. This was in April of last year, about a year ago. And I told Jim Jordan on the way over, he said, everybody gets one question. You can ask the attorney journal a question. I said, I want to ask her about phase two of the Epstein files. Would that be too confrontational? and Jim said, I'm not going to tell you what you can and can't ask.

21:25Go ahead. So I was one of the first people as we finished dinner to ask a question. And I asked Pam Bondi where the rest of the files were and when would they be released? And she said, there was nothing left but child pornography and nobody wants to see that. It made it sound sort of like I was a voyeur or pedophile myself. But you were creepy for asking. Yeah, that I was creepy for asking. And so I didn't ask any more about it. Then I saw in the news as things played out, the story kept shifting.

21:56Ben Meiselas:And I said, well, there's some there there. And then behind all of this right now, folks, let's just talk about the energy situation. I want to put this on your radar right here. This was from a recent this was from Bloomberg yesterday. Here, play this clip. When do storage tanks run empty? Parts of the world, like Australia, Philippines, Thailand, you are. But the question is when and where. I still say that with you, it's going to be sometime in the month of May that you're going to end up with Europe hitting tank bottoms. And in the U.S., it's somewhere in that July 4th time period, if not sooner.

22:34By the way, the inventories number coming out of the U.S., the ones we got last night, the ones last week, I've never seen anything like that before. And I think that it's important to remember that these inventory numbers, let's define terms, a deficit versus a shortage. We have a deficit today, meaning that demand is above supply and we're drawing inventories. It's not a shortage yet. So to answer your question, you have the shortages in places like Asia. And it's not that bad yet because you're not completely at tank bottoms. But in places like Europe and the United States, you're in a deficit and you don't hit the shortages until you hit tank bottoms.

23:14Ben Meiselas:And finally, here's what Democratic Congress member Subramanian had to say yesterday. Let's play it. We asked him over and over again, why did you go to the island? He says he doesn't remember. That is inexplicable. And he simply didn't know how to answer the question at that point. And here's what Congress member Ro Khanna had to say. Let's play it. We know why that interview was not videotaped. If Donald Trump had seen the video transcript, he would have fired Howard Lutnick. It was really embarrassing. He was asked very straightforward questions about whether he regretted misleading the American people.

23:54I mean, he said that he would never see Epstein again in 2005. And everyone knows that he took his wife and kids to see Epstein in 2012. And yet it was just contortions and lies and no acknowledgement that he misled the American public. And if you saw the exchanges that my colleagues had with him, you would see he made a force of the English language. I mean, he was trying to define I as if saying that what he really meant is that he would not see Epstein alone, but be totally fine with having his wife and kids, kids see Epstein. It made no sense. And then he's raised even more serious concerns about the investigation.

24:42He originally had said that Epstein engaged in blackmail and recorded videotapes. Now he's saying, well, he was wrong. He was just speculating. And Epstein actually didn't engage in blackmailing. This raises the question of what the cover up is. Did someone tell him to say that? I've not heard that he is that Epstein never engaged in blackmail. Why is Howard Lutnick changing his testimony, changing his story? He's lost all credibility. And really, it's a shame that the American people don't get to see what he did there. Total lack of truth and lack of honesty.

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