Trump Accidentally Reveals his Dark Past with Ivanka

15 Dec 2025 · 15 min · 3 chapters

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In short

The episode claims Donald Trump is “panicking” as his and Ivanka Trump’s alleged “dark past” resurfaces, centering on alleged links to Jeffrey Epstein and claims about Ivanka’s underage modeling history.

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No guests are identified in the transcript; it appears to be a solo host commentary.

Key claims

Trump brought Ivanka around Epstein; Epstein ran a sex trafficking ring involving underage girls; Trump made sexual comments about younger girls; Ivanka modeled for Elite Model Agency when John Casablanca ran it; Ivanka’s modeling interviews are framed as evidence of sexualized underage imagery.

Notable examples

A White House Christmas party clip where Trump says someone “looks just like Ivanka”; alleged photos/videos of Trump, Ivanka, and Epstein; Ivanka quotes about modeling; Trump remarks on Howard Stern/The View; a letter Trump wrote to Epstein; references to Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell.

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Trump's Dark Past and Ivanka

1:48 to 3:56

Discussion about Donald Trump's concerns regarding his and Ivanka's past.

“It's not just his dark past that is surfacing.”

Ivanka's Modeling Career and Controversy

3:56 to 6:52

Analysis of Ivanka Trump's modeling career and its implications.

“Here she is talking about being a model at Elite Model Agency.”

Trump's Inappropriate Comments and Connections

8:08 to 13:18

Exploration of Trump's concerning remarks about Ivanka and his connections.

“From there, it was time for a funky do, where her hairstylist was putting on her dad's fortune rather than her.”
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1:54Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is panicking. It's not just his dark past that is surfacing. It's also the dark past of Ivanka that is surfacing. As you may know, Donald Trump had brought Ivanka around Jeffrey Epstein on at least one occasion. Also, Ivanka was modeling for something called Elite Model Agency when it was run by a very bad person named John Casablanca. I want to share with you, though, this is on Donald Trump's mind because during a White House Christmas party on Sunday, he brought up Ivanka. He saw someone who was right across from him at this Christmas party, and he stopped his speech like he saw a ghost or he saw Ivanka.

2:37Ben Meiselas:And he was like, you look just like Ivanka. I thought you were Ivanka. Ivanka is clearly on his mind as Donald Trump is also worried about his dark past surfacing. Let me show you what went down at the White House this past Sunday. Play this clip. The two of those guys, the greatest. Then we have a man who, to me, this is the most interesting story. What do you look like, Ivanka? Has anyone ever told you that? I'm looking, I'm saying, is that Ivanka? Could you just turn around for the camera? Does she look, does she look like Ivanka? It's the most unbelievable thing. So I wouldn't, I didn't want to take a chance.

3:14I say, is that Ivanka? You look just like Ivanka. Which is a great compliment, actually.

3:20Ben Meiselas:And I'd like to just share with you right now some of these photos regarding Ivanka. So, you know, this photo here, it's Donald Trump, Ivanka and Epstein. You see that photo right there. Just the way Donald Trump would touch and hold Ivanka in these photos that I'm showing you sitting on the lap. I mean, you know, this photo. Then there's another photo over here. Them on like a bed together with her kissing his cheek. These are not normal, at least in my opinion. You could tell me if your opinion is different. These are not normal father-daughter photos at all. Really disturbing stuff right there.

3:55Ben Meiselas:And then we have these videos of Ivanka that have surfaced. Here she is talking about being a model at Elite Model Agency. Here, let's play this clip right here. My family has money and they can support me, but I model because I love to model. And it's something that I enjoy doing, so I don't think it's there that they made me sound greedy about it at all because I model because I love to model, and that's really all there is to it. Here's how the New York Times in 1997 described her when she was probably 15 or 16 years old. They described her as wearing see-through white dresses that would turn heads.

4:36Ben Meiselas:see-through white dresses. Come on. She's an underage girl at this time. She seems to have this modeling thing down. They write, there are the sexy outfits, sexy outfits. She's underage. Then when you show up for an interview wearing floor length, see-through white dresses, you tend to turn heads. There is the denial that she exercises and the chowing down, eating a nice size lunch in front of a reporter proving that she is not a wacky dieter. I want you to watch here as Ivanka looks at her childhood bed. This is from several years back. But watch what happens as she's giving this interview and she takes a look at her bed right here.

5:15Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. This was my bed. It's a little small for me now. Probably why I don't stay in here anymore, but yeah. And what floor are we on? We are on the 68th floor. Not a bad view to wake up to. And here's another video of her involved in modeling. Tell me what you think. Play this clip. Ivanka is quickly becoming a star in her own right. Along with her editorial work, she is the new face of both the Moogler trademark and Sasson ad campaigns. People are always going to speculate and people are always going to wonder, could she have done it without her parents being who they are? And I've always thought, in this industry, your parents can't really get you that far.

6:04It's more about the public opinion. And if the public doesn't like you, then you're never going to succeed. She has to go through letting sage. You know, she's really there, just starting. She has a lot of confidence, a lot of voice and a lot of personality. And she's a hard worker. And if you start with those qualities, you really can go places. is she. Yeah, that's sweet. You got beautiful teeth. Keep it happening. Well, you know, the beauty of Ivanka is that she's really had very little rejection. Now, that's both good and bad, because at a certain point, perhaps she does have rejection and she won't know how to take it.

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8:08Ben Meiselas:Here she is getting makeup. Let me show you this clip. Let's play it right here. First stop, makeup. From there, it was time for a funky do, where her hairstylist was putting on her dad's fortune rather than her. Can you ask your dad if he's got half a million even than me? Next up, we got a sneak peek at the clothes she'd be wearing. This is my last outfit, which is absolutely gorgeous. And all that was left was showtime.

8:39So how did it go?

8:41Ben Meiselas:And then over here, I'll show you this. You have Donald Trump speaking about Ivanka on Howard Stern and talking about her on The View. You know these clips right here. Play this clip. Stop it! Ivanka, what's the favorite thing you have in common with your father? Either real estate or golf. Donald, with your daughter? Well, I was going to say sex, but I can't relate that to that. Stop it! If I weren't happily married and, you know, her father, my daughter, Ivanka. Yeah, she's six feet tall. She's got the best body. By the way, your daughter, she's beautiful. Can I say this? A piece of ass. She looks more voluptuous than ever.

9:21She's actually always been very voluptuous. She's tall. She's almost six feet tall. You going up the escalator? I'm going to be dating her in 10 years.

9:30Ben Meiselas:Here's a longer one of Donald Trump speaking about Ivanka on the view. so you can see the slightly longer clip of it for yourself. Play this clip. If Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her. Stop it. Oh, it's so weird. Stop it. You know what? You are sick. Yeah. You're known for saying outrageous things, Mr. Trump. Who are you, Woody Allen? You know, and then I would be remiss if I didn't mention that Ivanka's mom, Ivana, when she died a few years back under fairly mysterious circumstances as well, she was buried in the back lot of bedminster and this is what her grave looked like you see all of the grass that has grown over the grave at least when the daily mail got this scoop and this exclusive right here real um you know real horrible real horrible stuff right there you know i'm also reminded over here about uh this letter right here that was written um donald trump to Jeffrey Epstein.

10:29Ben Meiselas:There must be more to life than having everything. Yes, there is, but I won't tell you what it is, nor will I, since I also know what it is. We have certain things in common, Jeffrey. Yes, we do come to think about it. Enigmas never age. Have you noticed that? As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you. A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may every day be a wonderful secret. And again, I just think about while this was all taking place you know i just think about donald trump's background of who he was hanging out with and what he was doing around this time and so you know here's the video right here of of again of donald trump and his uh epstein connections if you will hear play this clip charges that jeffrey epstein was running a sex trafficking ring in the early 2000s that included underage girls as young is 14 years old.

11:22Donald Trump in 2002 said of Epstein he's a lot of fun to be with. It's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. He routinely spoke fawningly of Jeffrey. He admired Epstein's lifestyle. Your daughter, she's beautiful. Can I say this? A piece of a**. She's actually always been very voluptuous. What does Tiffany have of Marla's? She's got Marla's legs. We don't know whether or not, she's got this part. You were playing tennis and you came off the court. Quote, look at that piece of s***. I would love some of that. It so happened that Trump was referring to Cohen's then 15-year-old daughter, Samantha.

11:59I had the impression that he was interested in younger women and that, you know, women would age out for him. Miss Teen Universe? Yeah, that's like giving Jeffrey Dahmer a cooking show. I'll go backstage before a show and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. They're standing there with no time. Donald Trump is heard making questionable comments about a young girl. You're going up the escalator? I'm going to be dating her in 10 years. A lawsuit against the presumptive GOP nominee alleges he raped a girl when she was 13 years old.

12:34Prince Andrew answering questions for the first time about his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. I don't know Prince Andrew, but it's a tough story. Trump has been photographed with Prince Andrew as far back as the year 2000. Ghislaine Maxwell is accused of helping Epstein sexually abuse underage girls. I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach, and I guess they lived in Palm Beach, but I wish her well. You know about sexual predators and things like that. I mean, you are one. All right, I was going to say that, but it's true.

13:14Ben Meiselas:Well, there you have it. Let me know what you think, folks. Really sad and disturbing. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million. And thank you so much for watching. Thanks for watching. Be sure to add the Midas Touch podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts for new updates every single day.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump brining up Ivanka during his Sunday Christmas in a deeply disturbing way as his own dark past with Ivanka surfaces.

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