Trump Blows Up in Late Night Massacre of Himself

12 Nov 2025 · 20 min · 12 chapters

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The episode argues that Trump’s administration is collapsing politically and economically, and that MAGA supporters are turning on him. It cites falling public perceptions of the economy (Haver Analytics) and a generic-ballot midterm poll favoring Democrats (YouGov). It claims Trump’s Laura Ingraham interview shows he says Americans aren’t talented for high-skill jobs, so the country needs H-1B visa workers and large numbers of Chinese students. Notable examples include Trump’s “we don’t have talented people here” remarks, his battery-factory anecdote about South Koreans, and claims that cutting universities would shut down HBCUs. It also criticizes reliance on DoorDash “economic data,” and mocks appointments like Sean “The Real World” as Transportation Secretary.

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none mentioned by name as interviewees; only referenced figures (Laura Ingraham, J.D. Vance, Ron Filipkowski, Gavin Newsom, Grant Cardone, Congresswoman Mary Annette Miller-Meeks, Congresswoman Ansari, McGovern).

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Trump's Regime in Decline

1:19 to 1:42

Discussing the perceived collapse of Trump and MAGA.

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Trump's Regime in Decline

2:14 to 2:42

Discussing the perceived collapse of Trump and MAGA.

“Donald Trump's destruction is now being recognized by Americans who are Democrats, independents, Republicans, nonpolitical people.”

Polling Insights Ahead of Midterms

2:43 to 3:49

Analyzing polling data indicating a potential blue wave.

“America's perception of the economy right now has fallen below the lows seen during the 2008 financial crisis, per Haver Analytics.”

MAGA Reactions to Trump's Interview

3:58 to 4:36

Examining MAGA's response to Trump's recent interview on immigration.

“Trump defends the H-1B visa holder program in response to Ingraham asking, we have plenty of talented people here in America, Donald.”

Critique of Trump's Economic Claims

4:42 to 6:27

Critiquing Trump's remarks on the economy and foreign labor.

“You have MAGA accounts saying things like this.”

Voter Sentiment on Economic Responsibility

6:29 to 10:14

Exploring voter perceptions of who is responsible for the economy.

“Trump says H-1B visa holders are essential because there aren't enough talented Americans.”

Trump's Messaging and Public Opinion

10:16 to 14:00

Analyzing Trump's messaging on inflation and public response.

“He, of course, at least constitutionally can't run for another term, but his Republican party is up in the midterm elections.”

Trump's Economic Messaging Strategy

14:00 to 14:50

Learn about Trump's messaging on the economy and contrasting views from MAGA influencers.

“Hey, real estate investors, big heads up.”

Clips on Republican Messaging

14:50 to 16:19

Hear clips that reveal Republican perspectives on the economy and safety.

“So they need to do a better job on Capitol Hill.”

Congressional Hearings and Accountability

16:19 to 17:50

Explore statements from Congress members regarding accountability and financial transparency.

“These amendments also require complete transparency on which corporations and ultra-wealthy individuals are financing this project and what they are receiving in return.”
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Call to Action for Democrats

17:50 to 18:05

A motivational call for Democrats to be assertive in their messaging.

“By the way, Virginia Fox, the lady you heard interrupt Congresswoman Ansari.”

Call to Action for Democrats

18:06 to 19:22

A motivational call for Democrats to be assertive in their messaging.

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2:14Ben Meiselas:What's happening, Donald? What's happening, Donald? What's happening, Lindsay? What's happening, Maga Mike? I'll tell you what's happening. It's all falling apart. The Trump regime is collapsing. MAGA is collapsing. Donald Trump's destruction is now being recognized by Americans who are Democrats, independents, Republicans, nonpolitical people. This country despises and hates this Trump regime. I'll give you some data points. America's perception of the economy right now has fallen below the lows seen during the 2008 financial crisis, per Haver Analytics. So right now, Americans feel that we are in a worse economic condition than during, basically, the closest we came since the Great Depression, the Great Recession that took place caused by George W.

3:12Ben Meiselas:Bush and Republicans back then. How about this data point for you? Folks, the latest YouGov poll shows that if the midterms were held tomorrow on a generic ballot, 46 % of registered voters would vote Democrat, 39 % would vote Republican. This is the biggest spread yet, and this would mean a massive, and I mean massive, blue tsunami come the midterms that would make last Tuesday look like the appetizer that I think it will be. Folks, Russian state regime media is mocking Donald Trump's interview with Laura Ingraham last night. We've covered it from many angles here. This is what Russia is saying about it.

4:03Ben Meiselas:Trump defends the H-1B visa holder program in response to Ingraham asking, we have plenty of talented people here in America, Donald. Can't they work in the factories or in these high skill jobs? Shouldn't we provide them with the training, Donald? Trump, no, we don't. We don't have good workers here. That's why we need H-1B visa program. Donald Trump says that American workers are not capable of working high-skilled jobs and high-skilled factory jobs. I'll show you the receipts as I always do, but here's what's going on in MAGA world. It is blowing up, folks. You have MAGA accounts saying things like this.

4:47Ben Meiselas:J.D. Vance's best option, if he wants to be president, might actually be to make a dramatic public resignation. torpedo this administration, scorch it, come back in two to six years because you have other people in MAGA saying this. This administration is quickly morphing into a horrific mixture of Bush's second term and the Biden presidency. Combine baffling policy choices with being so out of touch and you get a ticking time bomb. Our editor-in-chief Ron Filipkowski writes, Yes, we have issues and gripes in the Democratic Party. I certainly have mine, but I think they are solvable in the near term.

5:30Ben Meiselas:MAGA, on the other hand, is in total disarray. And their problem, a malevolent, unpopular fool sinking deeper into dementia, surrounded by clowns, is only going to get worse. This MAGA account, Andrew Torba, says the following. So Trump's message to the American people this week, number one, you're too dumb to build things. We need 500 ,000 people from, I'm not going to use these terms, to fill these jobs from foreign countries. You're too dumb for college. We need 600 ,000 people from China to fill the school slots. You're too poor. Here's a 50-year mortgage and a one-time petty check for$2 ,000.

6:17Ben Meiselas:You're not struggling financially. The stock market is doing great, so shut up. Here's my new gold-plated room in the White House. That's from a MAGA account. And here's what was on the newswire. Trump says H-1B visa holders are essential because there aren't enough talented Americans. It's a direct quote from Donald Trump. That's not a paraphrase. That's what Trump said on the Laura Ingraham show on Fox. More MAGA accounts are saying this. This has to be a full heel turn. I mean, seriously, this has to be the nail in the coffin for plan. Trust us. No, we don't have talent here. What the F? Or how about this account?

7:00Ben Meiselas:What in the actual F is happening? Is someone threatening this guy's kids or Melania? He's acting like he's being held hostage. Not joking right here. Then there's this MAGA account. I do not get this and don't believe other MAGA do. WTH. So at this point, the Trump regime, they're using DoorDash press releases, you know, the food delivery company as their economic data. I kid you not. We're not publishing Bureau of Labor Statistics data. America has access to the best economists in the world, or we did. But now Caroline Levitt, Donald Trump's propagandist, is citing DoorDash reports. Prices are steadying and wages are climbing, new DoorDash report shows.

7:50Ben Meiselas:And then this one account goes, per a DoorDash report, you can't make this stuff up. And this account goes, you know the economy is effed when they report using DoorDash numbers. And that DoorDash report replaced the economic report. Well, by the way, while all of this was going on, California Governor Gavin Newsom, who I've referred to basically as the shadow president in the United States, representing what America once was and could be. He's still out there in Brazil. He's at the 30th anniversary United Nations Climate Conference where he gave multiple speeches, very high profile speeches there.

8:26Ben Meiselas:Here he is cutting a deal with Nigeria on a new climate partnership. But back here in the United States, Donald Trump, like the most unpopular president in modern history or history in general, here's how they were describing it yesterday evening on CNN. Let's play it. Hey there, Laura. Look, Donald Trump might be trying to downplay voters' concerns about affordability, but I'm here to tell you that is a ginormous error. It may be an error that goes down in political infamy. Why do I say that? Well, the reason Donald Trump was elected was to fix the problem of inflation. Right back in October of 2024, who was more trusting inflation?

9:02It was Donald Trump by nine points over Kamala Harris. But look at where we are today. Donald Trump is underwater with the Titanic when it comes to inflation. His net approval rating is 26 points underwater. My goodness gracious. Now I know Donald Trump, when things aren't going his way, wants to pass the political buck. He might try and throw it back at Joe Biden's face, the former president. That simply put will not work. The American people don't buy it because get this, more responsible for the current economy, Trump or Biden, we're talking 54%, the clear majority of voters say Donald Trump's more responsible for the current economy than just 21 % who say Joe Biden.

9:38I will note, I've seen this in poll after poll after poll. More folks saying Trump is responsible than Biden. Now, of course, it's one thing if voters don't like the state of the economy, but it's another thing when they don't think that Donald Trump actually gives a hoot. And we see that in the polling because take a look here. Trump attention to lowering costs, not enough. We're talking about three in four Americans, 75 % overall, who say Trump's not paying enough attention to lowering costs. And even among Republicans, that solid Republican base who oftentimes approves of Trump's job by 85, 90%, 57 % of them say that Trump's not paying enough attention to lowering costs.

10:15Now we're talking about Trump. He, of course, at least constitutionally can't run for another term, but his Republican party is up in the midterm elections. They should be scared. SH blank, blank, blank list.

10:26Ben Meiselas:I mean, and look, here are the things that he was saying in this Laura Ingraham interview. I got to show you the receipts. I have to show this team because it's critical that we show you his exact words. Here's where he says Americans are not talented enough to do jobs in the United States. So we need foreign workers. Let's play this clip. There's never going to be a country like what we have right now. The Republicans have to talk about it. And does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration? Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.

11:01I agree, but you We have plenty of talented people here. No, you don't. No, you don't. We don't have talented people here. No, you don't have certain talents, and people have to learn. You can't take people off an unemployment line and say, I'm going to put you into a factory or we're going to make missiles. How did we ever do it before? When you and I were growing up. I'll give you an example. In Georgia, they raided because they wanted illegal immigrants. They had people from South Korea that made batteries all their lives. You know, making batteries are very complicated. It's not an easy thing and very dangerous.

11:34A lot of explosions, a lot of problems. They had like five or six hundred people early stages to make batteries and to teach people how to do it. Well, they wanted them to get out of the country. You're going to need that, Laura. I mean, I know you and I disagree on this. You can't just say a country's coming in, going to invest$10 billion to build a plant and going to take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years. and they're going to start making missiles. It doesn't work that way.

12:02Ben Meiselas:And here's where Donald Trump in that same interview says that our universities need to be filled with Chinese students and non-American students. Let's play this clip. A lot of MAGA folks are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of thousands of foreign students in the United States. We have about 350 ,000 Chinese. One point during COVID, you were going to, you know, push to, you know, get them out, but that was pulled back. You've said as many as 600 ,000 Chinese students could come to the united states why sir is that a pro-maga position when so many american kids want to go to school and there are places not for them and these universities are getting rich off chinese money sure uh never said about china but i we do have a lot of people coming in from china we always have uh china and other countries we also have a massive system of colleges and universities and if we were to cut that in half which perhaps makes some people happy you would have half the colleges in the united states go out of business so what well i think it's a big deal are they fans you would have the united states yeah but you would have as you know historically black colleges and universities would all be out of business that you would have a system of colleges uh and universities would so we're dependent on china to keep our university system going i think it's good to have i actually think it's good to have outside uh countries look i want to be able to get along with the world they're not the french they're the Chinese.

13:27They spy on us. They steal our intellectual property. Do you think the French are better?

13:31Ben Meiselas:Yeah. Really? I'll tell you. Like, so no wonder when these MAGA Republican Congress members finally hold town halls like Congresswoman Mary Annette Miller-Meeks in Iowa's first congressional district, they just get booed. Here, watch this. Farmers are suffering from high

14:02Ben Meiselas:I mean, by the way, even the top Trump MAGA influencer type people like this guy, Grant Cardone, this MAGA guy, he's running ads saying we're going to a recession and that he'll help you with real estate during the recession. Here play this clip. Hey, real estate investors, big heads up. Don't tell anybody, but I'm going to show you how to get in the real estate game. We're going into a recession. Seriously, this is going to be the biggest opportunity in your lifetime to invest in real estate. Retail and residential and office is going to provide you with big opportunities. I'm going to show you exactly how to get started.

14:38Ben Meiselas:Now, while that's going on, Donald Trump still says that prices are going down and that Republicans are not messaging this the right way, that Republicans just need to tell people that everything's affordable. Here, play this clip. The Republicans don't talk about it. So they need to do a better job on Capitol Hill. The Democrats give false talk and the Republicans, and I say it all the time, Republicans have to talk about the fact that prices are down. The Walmart thing is very important. When Walmart says a Thanksgiving meal costs 25 % less under Trump than under Biden, I mean, to me, that's better than any.

15:13Republicans need to spend more time talking about how great the country is and less time complaining about the Democrats. We have potentially the greatest economy in the history of our country.

15:21Ben Meiselas:And then you have Donald Trump's transportation secretary, Sean from The Real World and The Real World Road Rules Challenge. He says, I can't guarantee your safety. You have one job. He says, I cannot guarantee safety as the transportation secretary. You're playing this clip. Listen, you can walk outside. I can't guarantee your safety. You get in your car. I can't guarantee safety, but I have to look at the risk in this system. And then we have to make decisions based on that risk and based on that pressure. As Jeb Fain writes, who could have predicted that the guy from MTV's Real World for Secretary of Transportation would go badly?

16:00Ben Meiselas:I don't know, maybe we shouldn't have Sean from the Real World running the Transportation Department. You can't make this stuff up, folks. And let me just show you this and I'll lead you with this. Congresswoman Ansari, here's what she says at the congressional hearings last night before the vote on the continuing resolution. Play this clip. So I have amendments at the desk, first to guarantee that the American people are not forced to subsidize Donald Trump's$350 million ballroom, a private palace where his billionaire donors will be rewarded with access and influence. These amendments also require complete transparency on which corporations and ultra-wealthy individuals are financing this project and what they are receiving in return.

16:43second to ensure that this bill cannot take effect until ACA premium tax credits are renewed because when if and when they expire premiums will skyrocket and people will lose health care the corruption and heartlessness of these policies must end I urge the committee to support these amendments in order for us to have a real debate on protecting American families and on restoring trust in government that Donald Trump is dismantling I yield back and then here is what

17:10Ben Meiselas:Democratic Congress member McGovern, the ranking Democrat on the Rules Committee, said. Let's play it. Well, hello, Madam Chair. Welcome back. Long time no see. I hardly recognize you guys. Where the hell have you been? It's good to see you back on Capitol, back in the Capitol building. We've been looking everywhere for you guys. I mean, seriously, we were worried. We actually started handing out missing person posters. Nobody has seen you for eight weeks. But hey, I'm glad that you're okay. I'm glad that you survived your nice two-month paid vacation while Democrats stayed in Washington to try to end the shutdown.

17:46Ben Meiselas:There you have it, folks. There you have it. By the way, Virginia Fox, the lady you heard interrupt Congresswoman Ansari. Remember back in the day where she was like yelling at the reporter, shut up, shut up. That's the shut up lady. Very thin skin, these MAGA Republicans. Go on the offense, be powerful, be strong, Democrats. You know what to do. hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million. Thanks so much.

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