Trump Dark Past Surfaces as Lawyer Falls Apart

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1:30Ben Meiselas:So let me see if I've got this right. So Donald Trump's lawyer, who was also Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer, went on TV a few days ago and said that he is aware of these Epstein files. He knows that they're protecting really powerful individuals and that he just can't talk about it because it would breach his duty of confidentiality, he says. But then late last night, he now says, there is no list and there really are no files about individuals who were co-conspirators of Epstein. He goes, there's just a bunch of affidavits and it's really just affidavits of victims, just saying what they went through.

2:12Ben Meiselas:That's really all there is here. There's no such thing as a list. So this is what I predicted was going to happen after Donald Trump made that post on social media saying that the Epstein list and the Epstein files were all this democratic hoax by Obama and Clinton. I said he's going to have all the lawyers basically line up and they're going to go along with that. And ultimately, who is that going to benefit? In my opinion, it's going to benefit Ghislaine Maxwell, because as I've mentioned, it's like she's gotten a golden ticket to get a retrial now from the criminal case against her in federal court, because she's going to argue if the president of the United States is saying the entire Epstein sex trafficking ring is a hoax, then why was I criminally prosecuted and sentenced to over 20 years in prison?

3:03Ben Meiselas:I come with receipts. And so it should also be noted that Alan Dershowitz, who you're going to see, Trump's lawyer who made statements like this, he is also pushing for Ghislaine Maxwell to receive, you guessed it, a pardon. And all of these other MAGA influencers now are out there saying free Ghislaine, give Ghislaine a pardon. This as the MAGA Republicans in the House of Representatives are blocking votes and covering up the release of the Epstein file. So let's just let's come with receipts. This is the Midas Touch Network. That's what we do, right? We don't speculate. We come with evidence.

3:41Ben Meiselas:I do this like we're in a courtroom. OK, so ladies and gentlemen of the jury, let me show you Trump's lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, who was also Epstein's lawyer. And here he is saying this was over the weekend that he knows that there are documents being suppressed to protect individuals. Just listen to him in his own words here. Play this clip. So let me tell you, I know for a fact documents are being suppressed and they're being suppressed to protect individuals. I know the names of the individuals. I know why they're being suppressed. I know who's suppressing them, but I'm bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases, and I can't disclose what I know.

4:21But I pan to God. I know I know the names of people whose files are being suppressed in order to protect them.

4:29Ben Meiselas:And that's wrong. All right. Well, now, in my view that the plan has been hatched by Donald Trump, things are changing a little bit. So what did Dershowitz say last night? Dershowitz said, there is no list. I know that there's no list. Here's what he said. Here, play this clip. Is the government hiding a client list or anything that the Trump administration could release tonight? No, there is no client list and never has been a client list. A client list suggests that Jeffrey Epstein made a list of people to whom he trafficked women. What there is, is a redacted FBI affidavit from accusers. There are several of them from accusers that accuse Jeffrey, that accuse various people of having improper sex.

5:26And that has been redacted. The names of the people accused have been blacked out. Now, of course, because I was the lawyer and I did only investigations, I know who all these people are. I could figure out based on everything that I saw who Mr. X is, Mr. Y is and Mr. Z. I can tell you right now, none of them are public figures who are currently in office. Some of them were previously in office. Some of

5:55Ben Meiselas:them are dead. Let's take a look at Dershowitz's background. Dershowitz, as I mentioned, was Donald Trump's lawyer during the impeachment case, very close to Donald Trump. Back in 1997 or so, he wrote an article, an op-ed that says, statutory rape is an outdated concept. He says, it raises a fundamental question about the continuing legitimacy of statutory rape laws at a time when sex involving teenagers is so rampant and prosecution for statutory rape so selective. It is obvious that there must be criminal sanctions against sex with very young children, but it is doubtful whether such sanctions should apply to teenagers above the age of puberty since voluntary sex is so common in their age group.

6:49Ben Meiselas:In other words, for him, the age of consent that he argues as a legal construct should be right after puberty is what he's saying. And then you would think, well, is he still defending that to this day? Yeah, well, right around the time when he was Donald Trump's lawyer, he goes, I stand by the constitutional, not moral argument I offered in my controversial op-ed. If a 16 year old has the constitutional right to have an abortion without state or parental interference, how can she not have the constitutional right to engage in consensual sex. And by the way, here is Dershowitz describing why it was that he was at Epstein's home getting massages, which he claims he got.

7:33Ben Meiselas:He doesn't like massages. He says he just got them in his boxers. Here, play this clip. I never saw a young underage woman. Yet Epstein's former butler swore under oath that Dershowitz was at Epstein's residences at the same time underage girls were there. Were there young women in another part of the house giving massages when I wasn't around? I have no idea of that. Dershowitz did say he once received a massage at Epstein's mansion, but from an adult woman. I kept my underwear on during the massage. I don't like massages particularly. Bob Norman, Local 10 News. All right, so you've got Dershowitz saying, pardon Ghislaine Maxwell.

8:13Ben Meiselas:well. You've got Dershowitz saying that he thinks constitutionally the age of consent should be somewhere right after puberty. Now saying that the list doesn't exist. And then you have the other influencers, deeply embedded VIPs in the MAGA world, like Lady Victoria Hervey. She hangs out with Kash Patel and Donald Trump all the time at Bedminster and Mar-a-Lago. And she writes, keep in mind, there was no trafficking, no clients, only innocent victims who were extorted for money by two corrupt attorneys through a calculated scheme of blackmail. So in their view, Epstein and Ghislaine were actually the victims.

8:52Ben Meiselas:That's what MAGA is now pushing, that they were the victims. That's your position, MAGA. You've got MAGAs like this who wear free Ghislaine Maxwell t-shirts. Jessica Reed Krause, she's got VIP access in the White House right now in their new media division. She was one of those people holding the binders, the Epstein phase one binders back in February when Pam Bondi said, this is just phase one. We're going to be releasing the full list shortly. It's sitting on my desk. So she's posted, I'll be pushing for a retrial or a pardon until it happens, especially in light of recent news. Everyone should wonder why one woman is serving 20 years for trafficking minors to no one and why she's saying to no one because Donald Trump said it was all one big hoax.

9:39Ben Meiselas:Now, just a reminder for you as well that Dershowitz was Trump's lawyer. Just so you see, OK, you're saying he's his lawyer. Was he really his lawyer, Ben? Yes, he was Epstein's lawyer. He was Trump's lawyer. Here he is during the impeachment trial of Donald Trump. Here he is arguing on behalf of Trump. Let's play. What happened is that the current president was impeached. If, in fact, President Obama or President Hillary Clinton had been impeached, the weight of current scholarship would be clearly in favor of my position because these scholars do not pass the shoe on the other foot test. These scholars are influenced by their own bias, by their own politics, and their views should be taken with that in mind.

10:27Ben Meiselas:And here he is pretty recently saying that he thinks Pam Bondi has extraordinary experience and is doing a very good job. Let's play that clip. Well, look, I think we're on the right track. I think Pam Bondi has extraordinary experience. She's tough. She has the right priorities. Hey, parents, we all know getting a good sleep can feel impossible when you have a newborn. That's where happiest baby comes in. And it's been a lifesaver for me. Founded by world renowned pediatrician, Dr. Harvey Karp. They've created smart sleep solutions that help families get the rest they desperately need, starting with SNU.

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12:28Ben Meiselas:Let's play it. Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being. I'm going to trust my friends, the administration. I'm going to trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it, balls in their hands. I've said plenty this last weekend. So if you guys want to see my commentary on it. That's fine. You've seen MAGA Republicans block the release of the Epstein files in the House of Representatives like Mike Lawler. They're like, why are we even talking about this? Why would we talk about this? Here, play this clip. And as I said, if somebody did something, if there is evidence of a crime committed, then prosecute them.

13:02In the absence of that, what are we talking about? You say there's a lot of nonsense, a lot of nonsense from whom? What do you think? Explain to me what you think the nonsense is here.

13:15Well, frankly, the fact that you're even covering this, I mean, I don't even understand, frankly, what why we're spending a lot of time on Jeffrey Epstein. You know, the fact is he was a pedophile who was arrested. He committed suicide and his, you know, fixer, if you will, is being prosecuted. So at the end of the day, if there are people who were part of any crimes, then they should be prosecuted. But in the absence of that, what is what exactly are we looking to do? the the information is is there. It is well documented what he did. And beyond that, what exactly are we looking for? Just so you know, it's being covered because the deputy director of the FBI is said to have taken off work on Friday to protest the Justice Department own handling of this.

14:17And there have been shouting matches reported inside the White House on this. So whether or not you think it's important, apparently there are people who are quite agitated about it. But I will move on.

14:26Ben Meiselas:And look, I'm proud that at the Midas Touch Network, we've been covering this diligently every step of the way for the past since Midas Touch was created. Let me remind you of these videos that we've created. Hashtag Hold Trump Accountable was a video we created back in August of 2020. Let's play it. You know about sexual predators and things like that. You are one. All right. Here's what Donald Trump said about his old friend Jeffrey Epstein in 2002. I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

14:56Donald Trump is heard making questionable comments about a young girl. You're going up the escalator? I'm going to be dating her in 10 years. A woman had filed a lawsuit alleging Trump sexually assaulted her when she was only 13 years old. I go backstage and everyone's getting dressed. I'm the owner of the pageant. So I sort of get away with things like that. You know, I'm automatically attracted to the beautiful. I just start kissing. For the 22nd time, Donald J. Trump has been accused of sexual misconduct. He's seen me again very aggressively. He was putting his hand up my skirt. She would not be my first choice.

15:24I'm very clear on this. When you're a star, they let you do it. Touching my private parts. Grab him by the car. What does he beat us ass? He pinned you against the wall. It was a fight. She kept the dress. She's asking for a sample of Trump's DNA for a case.

15:42Ben Meiselas:and hashtag pedo trump was a video we created in september of 2020 let's play it charges that jeffrey epstein was running a sex trafficking ring in the early 2000s that included underage girls as young as 14 years old donald trump in 2002 said of epstein he's a lot of fun to be with it's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as i do and many of them are on the younger He routinely spoke fawningly of Jeffrey. He admired Epstein's lifestyle. Your daughter, she's beautiful. Can I say this? A piece of a**. She's actually always been very voluptuous. What does Tiffany have with Marla? She's got Marla's legs.

16:22We don't know whether or not she's got this part. You were playing tennis and you came off the court. Quote, look at that piece of a**. I would love some of that. It so happened that Trump was referring to Cohen's then 15-year-old daughter. I had the impression that he was interested in younger women and that, you know, women would age out for him. Miss Teen Universe? Yeah, that's like giving Jeffrey Dahmer a cooking show. I'll go backstage before a show and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it.

16:55Donald Trump is heard making questionable comments about a young girl. You're going up the escalator? I'm going to be dating her in 10 years. A lawsuit against the presumptive GOP nominee alleges he raped a girl when she was 13 years old. Prince Andrew answering questions for the first time about his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. I don't know Prince Andrew, but it's a tough story. Trump has been photographed with Prince Andrew as far back as the year 2000. Ghislaine Maxwell is accused of helping Epstein sexually abuse underage girls. I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach.

17:31and I guess they lived in Palm Beach, but I wish her well. You know about sexual predators and things like that. I mean, sure. You are one. All right, I wasn't going to say that, but it's true.

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