In short
The episode argues that Donald Trump is being isolated internationally as Middle East and other countries form new security alliances, reducing U.S. influence. It claims a “Mecca Pact” among Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Turkey is emerging as a NATO-like regional umbrella, with Egypt and possibly Qatar and other Arab states joining. Iran is portrayed as supportive, framing the pact as not anti-Iran due to “religious, historical, civilizational bonds,” while also calling Iran a regional superpower. It alleges China is “waiting and ready,” expanding influence via deals with the Houthis in Yemen (including control around Bab al-Mandab) and agreements with Iran. Notable examples cited: Iran’s advanced ballistic capabilities; Trump’s claim the U.S. controls the Strait of Hormuz; China-linked tanker routes and ship-to-ship transfers; Israel officials warning about the Sunni alliance and urging U.S. backing.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Global Isolation
0:00 to 0:44
World leaders are forming new alliances, sidelining Trump.
“World leaders are ditching Donald Trump in the United States, freezing out Trump in the U.S., forging and forming their own alliances, and calling Checkmate.”
The Mecca Pact and Middle Eastern Dynamics
0:44 to 4:36
Discussion on the Mecca Pact and its implications for U.S. influence.
“You read the headlines of the Chinese newspapers right now, and they're talking about how Donald Trump is self-destructing And China's just waiting for it to further assert itself in the region.”
Iran's Ascendancy and Regional Power Shift
4:36 to 8:45
Iran's role as a regional power and its shifting alliances are analyzed.
“Oil and gas exporters are saying to themselves, look, this is the best we can do.”
Iran's Ascendancy and Regional Power Shift
8:55 to 9:07
Iran's role as a regional power and its shifting alliances are analyzed.
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China's Strategic Moves in the Middle East
9:07 to 14:01
Exploration of China's expanding influence and military strategies in the region.
“It talks about how for decades Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states relied on Washington's defensive shield, while it in turn relied on them for access, energy, and influence.”
Global Security Alliances and U.S. Isolation
14:01 to 16:45
Explore the emerging global security alliances and their impact on U.S. influence.
“was going to be the top dog, the big power in the region.”
The Impact of Trump's Policies
16:45 to 17:58
Discuss how Trump's actions have restructured global power dynamics and impacted the U.S.
“China knew this was coming, but China thought 20, 30 years, 40 years.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Ben Meiselas:World leaders are ditching Donald Trump in the United States, freezing out Trump in the U.S., forging and forming their own alliances, and calling Checkmate. A new security umbrella is being formed in the Middle East. We saw that with the announcement of the Mecca Pact between Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Turkey. Egypt is likely going to be joining that as well. Iran applauded the formation of the Mecca Pact. We believe that Qatar and other Arab nations could be joining as well. Pay close attention. But China is just waiting and ready to go. They are watching as the United States implodes and self-destructs.
0:44Ben Meiselas:You read the headlines of the Chinese newspapers right now, and they're talking about how Donald Trump is self-destructing And China's just waiting for it to further assert itself in the region. We have China cutting deals with the Houthis in Yemen. Did you know that was happening? Why do you think the Chinese ships are so easily able to leave the Bab al-Mandab Strait? China and Houthis have an agreement. China and Iran, of course, have an agreement and deeper understanding there's a full-fledged alliance there as part of Iran's axis of resistance, which extends to the Houthis as well. China showing a great degree of resiliency while Donald Trump is saying, we control it.
1:30Ben Meiselas:We own the Strait of Hormuz. You know how Donald Trump said that the United States under former President Biden and other presidents was a laughingstock to the world. Well, Donald Trump and the United States quite literally are a laughingstock when it comes to China and Russia and other countries like that, North Korea, and the rest of the world looks on horrified at what the United States has become so weak, where the so-called commander-in-chief was exposed hiding on a airport catering container, leaving the old Air Force One and leaving the press to go on a plane because Donald Trump was so terrified, thinking that Iran was going to kill him at the end of the NATO summit.
2:14Ben Meiselas:No, Donald, Iran doesn't want to kill you. They want to protect you at all costs because the damage and destruction you have done to the United States has created the vision that Iran always wanted for the Middle East, a Middle East where the Arab brotherly nations, as they call it, are more united with each other, where the United States is pushed off of its military bases. The U.S. has indeed abandoned mostly all of its military bases now in the Middle East, other than its base in Israel right now. And now Israel's terrified under Netanyahu because they thought with the Abraham Accords, they were bringing certain Arab nations closer to them and isolating Iran.
3:02Ben Meiselas:They're seeing the opposite take place right now, what they forged a recent alliance with Somaliland recently. But you've got Netanyahu pointing to the Golan Heights yesterday and saying, that's ours. We're never going to have a free Palestine. We're never going to allow Palestinian statehood. We're never going to allow it. I don't think that that is the, to put it lightly, I think that's the complete wrong approach right now at this time. I think the world sees the genocide in Palestine. They see the killing in Lebanon. American taxpayers are like, we don't want our money going there at all. What the heck is even happening?
3:41Ben Meiselas:And you're seeing a lot more self-reliance with and among Arab nations. Take a look at what Qatar's foreign minister had to say. The Qatari foreign ministry said the following about the Mecca alliance. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt's going to join. And Qatar's into it. Qatar says, we welcome any regional cooperation for the sake of security and stability and defense of the region. The kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Pakistan are countries that we have good relationships with. We have brotherly relations based on common destiny and common worries. And we welcome this step and we support it.
4:21Ben Meiselas:He says, Qatar is present in these platforms. We have our own activity. And it's a little early to determine our involvement. But relations between the leaders of these countries and Qatar are very good with daily relations and daily contact. This, as the Wall Street Journal reports, Gulf states accept a new normal in Hormuz. Iran is in control. Oil and gas exporters are saying to themselves, look, this is the best we can do. The United States lost. It is what it is. Iran has demonstrated that its ballistics have advanced to the point where the American interceptors aren't able to shoot it down.
5:01Ben Meiselas:The ballistics have developed capabilities to change routes while it's in the air. The Iranian Shahids are cutting edge. Iran has developed a repertoire of weapons demonstrating that it is a regional power. That's just the reality. Whatever you feel about it, the feeling is irrelevant. It's the reality of what's actually happening. I mean, I'll show you. Donald Trump saying, we own the Strait of Hormuz. We control the Strait of Hormuz. This is what Donald Trump said last night. Here, play it. Iran is going fine. Going just absolutely fine. We totally control the Strait of Hormuz. We have control over it.
5:39Nobody else, only us. Our Navy is unbelievable. And things are going great for our country. Go ahead.
5:46Ben Meiselas:Again, it's just so utterly weakened. We don't control it. We don't own it. Iran controls the Strait of Ramuz. The Houthis have a great deal of control over Bab al-Mandab in the Red Sea. And China is kind of the Kaiser Sose, if you will, from usual suspects. They're behind the scenes in all of this right now, just kind of watching and waiting and seeing what's happening while they grow in power. Iran's foreign spokesperson, Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson says, there is no reason for us to be concerned that this pact between the two neighboring countries, Turkey, Pakistan, as well as Saudi Arabia, three countries with which we share deep religious, historical, and civilizational bonds is directed against.
6:30Ben Meiselas:We don't believe this is directed against Iran. Civilizational bonds. That's how Iran is talking. While Donald Trump, We control the strait. We control. Iran's talking about religious, historical, civilizational bonds. The history of friendship between the nations of Turkey and Pakistan as two neighboring Muslim countries is longstanding. This development is an important sign of a shift in regional perceptions. And Iran's foreign minister, Aragji, talked about these regional perceptions. And he said, look, Iran is now a regional superpower. And he says that when the various foreign ministers from across the world speak with him, they said, you did it.
7:11Ben Meiselas:You stopped the United States. You were able to do it against all odds. You've demonstrated a fearlessness and a courage. That's what Iran's foreign minister says that all these other foreign ministers are saying to him. Recently, Iran's foreign minister spoke with the foreign minister of Germany, Abbas Aragchi, the foreign minister of Iran, and Johann Wadfel, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Germany, had a telephone conversation to discuss international developments. The foreign ministers noted that the insecurity imposed on the Strait of Hormuz is exclusively the result of the military aggression by the United States.
7:47Ben Meiselas:Iran's foreign minister also spoke with the Italian Foreign Minister, Antonio Tajani, as well. And obviously continuing conversations with Oman, continuing conversations with Pakistan, but also you have those conversations taking place with Germany and Italy and other NATO countries, which I think is important. I got to tell you, I've been playing around with this dupe.com website. Have you used this yet? This website is incredible. I found something I really wanted online, but the price was just way more than I wanted to spend. So I put it into dupe.com and it immediately started finding similar options for way less.
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9:07Ben Meiselas:and this is from the south china morning post this is a chinese paper china waits in wings as the mecca pack signals a gulf shift away from the u.s security umbrella this is what i've been talking about like a broken record for what months now i've been saying this and this is the headline right now from the south china morning post the nato style deal between saudi arabia pakistan and Turkey highlights the growing doubts in the region about over-reliance on Washington. The grand security bargain between the United States and Gulf countries is widely perceived to be fraying, is what it's viewed as in Beijing, creating what analysts see as an opening for Beijing to expand its presence in the region.
9:52Ben Meiselas:It talks about how for decades Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states relied on Washington's defensive shield, while it in turn relied on them for access, energy, and influence. Riyadh's decision to sign this mutual defense agreement with Turkey and Pakistan is the clearest sign of a shift away from a relationship with the United States. The Mecca Pact is like a NATO of Arab nations, and it goes beyond the new regional security arrangement. Three middle powers, a Gulf energy giant, a NATO member, and nuclear-armed South Asian state, Pakistan, are taking steps to reduce reliance on the U.S.-dominated security architecture and build their own collective defense network.
10:37Ben Meiselas:It's like I wrote that article. It's exactly what I've been telling you has been happening. As Imran Khrushad from the U.S.-based Middle East forum writes, China is using Pakistan for weapons promotion as a gateway to enter the region's defense landscape. Moreover, if the potential Islamic NATO that many of these countries, including Pakistan and Turkey, discuss take shape, China might believe it has an augmented market. China has aggressively advertised its weapon platforms and builds narratives around its defense systems in the region, including claims about the success of the JF-17 fighter jet and other Chinese weapons during last year's India-Pakistan conflict.
11:21Ben Meiselas:So think about it. While China is working with Iran and these nations, but while China is developing cutting-edge drone technology, drone swarms, FPV drones, robotics, unmanned submersives, right? That's what they're focused on. The US under Donald Trump, this deranged psychopathic lunatic is like, we need to do battleships that look like the battleships between 1920 and 1940 because Trump doesn't like the way stealth looks. He doesn't like the way modern military systems look. So Trump has demanded that the United States, that the United States spend 300 to 400 billion at least on a Trump class of nuclear battleships, which a drone could easily take out.
12:10Ben Meiselas:That's where our taxpayer money is going. Just think about this. Since 2016, over$10 trillion has gone to the military for Trump and Hegseth to go through all of our weapons and for us to run out of ammunition to have our sailors at an all-time low morale on the supercarriers that remain in the region,$10 trillion. Leave it to Hegseth and Trump and Rubio to have the U.S. run out of weapons and completely lose the war to Iran. Also, as I noted at the outset, China has been cutting deals with the Houthis. As the Houthis and China adjust for a long-term security architectural restructuring in the Middle East.
13:01Ben Meiselas:This article goes, the Almonitor article says, the U.S. and Israel war are in its sixth month. The disruptions at the Bab el-Mandab and Hormuz Straits, Bab el-Mandab is Red Sea, Hormuz is Persian Gulf, have sent shockwaves through global markets. China has maintained access to Middle East crude through two distinct channels. Saudi oil has reached China on Chinese-linked tankers, transiting waters blockaded by the Houthis, while the Iranian crude has moved toward China through ship-to-ship transfers and oil stored aboard vessels off of Malaysia. And this is a very tactical move by China. Also, Oman's top officials, foreign ministers, have been meeting with China, meeting with Wang Yi, China's foreign minister as well.
13:54Ben Meiselas:So with all of this taking place, I mean, Israel and the Netanyahu regime, they hate this. They hate this security architecture because they were like, we thought that the U.S. was going to be the top dog, the big power in the region. what the hell is happening now we're isolated and the u.s is isolated israel's agriculture minister avi dikter said pakistan saudi arabia turkey this is a very problematic sunni alliance for the state of israel egypt is going to join this alliance as well there was an iran iraq syria lebanon access which we cut down and syria and lebanon have left the game now we have another alliance.
14:37Ben Meiselas:This requires us to be very, very careful. Pakistan is a country with nuclear weapons, and on this issue, we need to remain on guard. This only strengthens the need for an alliance with a global superpower on the scale of the United States. Israel's diaspora affairs minister, Amikai Kahil, says, so this is how they're trying to think about it in Israel right know under NetYahoo. We created a system of alliances in Europe unlike anything that existed before with the deep conservative right. Vox in Spain led by a Bosco. Today he is the most Zionist voice there is in Spain. The same goes for Jordan Bardella and Marine Le Pen in France.
15:24Ben Meiselas:With these people, a genuine closeness was created. We may see civil wars in Europe, as crazy as that sounds. We see the right in Britain. I brought Tommy Robinson here. That's the far right-wing extremists in the UK. Many people in Britain are with us. They are with us. We are heading toward very profound changes, both in Britain and France, changes that in turn could also provoke counter-reaction. So you have Netanyahu and Trump working to try to encourage civil wars in Europe. I mean, you hear them in their own words, basically, by backing these far right wing MAGA like parties in Europe to create this far right wing alliance to kind of weaken liberal democracies.
16:14Ben Meiselas:but that creation in turn in their attack on NATO has ended up having the impact of actually weakening the West and weakening the U.S. position and strengthening China's hand and strengthening the Sunni alliance and that's actually what we're seeing take place. I know there's a lot of detail here and there's a lot that's not being covered elsewhere. I just think it's important that we focus. This is some of the biggest issues, a restructuring of the entire global order right now around China as the main provider. China knew this was coming, but China thought 20, 30 years, 40 years. But it's happening right away because Trump just destroyed everything of the post-World War II architecture of the United States.
17:08Ben Meiselas:That's what's gone down right before our very eyes. That's going to have a long-term detrimental negative impact, though, in the U.S. as well. The petrodollar, the American bond market, the dollar, the value of the dollar. U.S. debt is one massive Ponzi scheme, and it relies on people continuing to buy treasury bonds and to use the dollar. If that changes, the United States is absolutely screwed. And that's what Trump's doing. I mean, who would have thought though, the guy who bankrupted his casinos, who bankrupted most of the companies he does, would bankrupt our military, would destroy our strategic petroleum reserves, would create a situation where we have the lowest morale ever on our supercarriers.
17:51Who would have thought?
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18:35Thank you.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on world leaders ditching Trump and US-led alliances to form their own regional security arrangements and Meiselas highlights the how China has now become the major player in ensuring more global security guarantees as well.
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