In short
Episode topic: Growing concerns and alleged internal chaos around Donald Trump’s July 4 speech in Washington, D.C., including fears of low turnout, extreme heat, and weather/security constraints.
Guest backgrounds
Adam Kinzinger (former Republican congressman/critic of Trump) appears via commentary; Caitlin Collins (CNN journalist) is referenced for reporting; Scott McFarlane (Midas Touch Network) is referenced as reporting from D.C.
Key claims
Trump officials want to cancel the event; Trump is furious about small crowds shown in aerial images; crowd-size numbers Trump cites (150,000 daily at the “Great American State Fair,” 40,000 at the National Mall speech) are “not true”; Freedom 250 is portrayed as a vanity/political advertisement; July 4 forecasts near 107°F plus thunderstorms and heavy security will deter attendance.
Notable examples
“Great American State Fair” described as empty/tumbleweed, with an added stage/columns; reflecting pool disruptions (algae) and netting; fireworks scheduled around 11 p.m.; comparisons to Canada Day’s hydration break.
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Chapters
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1:16 to 2:21
Discusses Trump's panic over attendance for his upcoming speech.
“They want to cancel the event altogether.”
Leaked Concerns from Trump Officials
2:22 to 4:25
Explores the leaks from Trump's team about the event's potential failure.
“leaking to the press that this event on July 4th is going to be an absolute disaster.”
Weather Woes and Political Impact
4:26 to 6:12
Analyzes the severe weather forecast and its implications for the event.
“He said, you know, after all the people canceled that this will be a celebration.”
Trump's State Fair Event Disappointment
6:13 to 8:01
Details the lack of attendance at the Great American State Fair and reactions.
“I mean, it's quite literally the worst event ever.”
Health and Safety Concerns for the Event
8:02 to 10:40
Highlights health risks due to heat and security measures affecting attendance.
“Conditioning, if you can, you can't expose yourself to this very long.”
Trump's Unique Approach to July 4th
10:41 to 12:38
Describes Trump's comments about speaking in extreme heat and the event's politicization.
“With the heat this weekend, we'll see what happens next.”
Transcript
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1:15Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is panicking over his July 4th event in Washington, D.C. Trump regime officials are scrambling. They want to cancel the event altogether. They are terrified that no one wants to show up to Donald Trump's speech on July 4th, which is set to take place late at night. And then the fireworks are set to take place at 11 PM. Donald Trump is screaming at his regime officials, blaming them for the fact that nobody showed up to the so-called Great American State Fair, which isn't great and it's not even a state fair. Trump blames his staff for the fact that nobody showed up to the speech he gave at the National Mall last week.
1:57Ben Meiselas:He's also livid that his staff keeps on posting aerial footage and images of the crowd size at the fair and at the National Mall showing how small the crowds were while Donald Trump is claiming 150 ,000 people are at the state fair every day. That's not true. Or when he says 40 ,000 people showed up at the speech I gave at the National Mall last week. That's not true. Trump regime officials are leaking to the press that this event on July 4th is going to be an absolute disaster. It's expected to be 107 degrees. There may be major thunderstorms as well. And again, Trump regime officials want this canceled.
2:38Ben Meiselas:Let me show you what they are leaking to the press right now. Here is Caitlin Collins talking about how livid Donald Trump is of these aerial images. Let me play this for you. Karen, I mean, the president and his allies have taken over the events and the planning of them. When it comes to crowd expectation, though, we're told that the aerial image of the crowds from his rally last week enraged him so much that officials ended up deleting them. Then you have Caitlin Collins talking about the weather forecast on July 4th. And then Adam Kinzinger jumps in and talks about how Donald Trump only has himself to blame for just how bad this has all been.
3:21Ben Meiselas:Play this clip. I mean, part of this is just the heat, period. I mean, regardless of what's going on, The weather team here at CNN says that the forecast, 102 degrees on Saturday, is expected to be the hottest July 4th ever recorded. I mean, there's a list of what people can't even bring because of the type of security measures. Reusable water bottles, sunscreen, bug spray, camping chairs, coolers, umbrellas. I mean, if you're a family and you're going out to watch fireworks that aren't expected to start until after the president has spoken, And it might make it tough to hang out for hours on end, Adam.
4:01Yeah. And I think, you know, look, maybe God's sending a message. I don't know. I can't speak for God. But but yeah, I mean, look, I think that's clear. And again, nobody would care. Like, no, I don't remember any time in the past people talking about the turnout for the July 4th fireworks on the Capitol, except that Donald Trump himself has made this a referendum on him. it's always about crowd size. He said, you know, after all the people canceled that this will be a celebration. I think he recently even said that your greatest, the greatest president, your favorite president is going to speak at this.
4:37So he himself inserts himself into this. And so turnout, even if it's weather related, I mean, at that point, he basically has taken ownership of the turnout. But again, just the sad thing here is we're in the 250th anniversary of this country. And it's been driven by division. And I'm sure each side will blame the other side, but clearly Donald Trump has pulled away from this idea of America 250 and Freedom 250 is his organization. It's all about him. And he has a 30 % approval rating. So that's what's going to happen.
5:09Ben Meiselas:You know, folks, this could have just been a great celebration of America's 250th birthday. This should have been a nonpartisan thing run through the Smithsonian. This should not have been something that was divisive. But Donald Trump turned this all about himself. And that's the main reason it's become this complete and utter failure, this complete and utter grift. And it's just so odd. I mean, I'll show you yesterday. As Matt Ryan, who was there, writes, after many called it a Timu Arch, the Freedom 250 team added new columns to Trump's arch at the Great American State Fair. Here, play this clip.
5:54Ben Meiselas:I'll show you the main stage yesterday at the so-called Great American State Fair. It was a podcast called The Practically Political, which presented to a virtually non-existent crowd at the Great American State Fair. Here, play this clip.
6:19see America in the month going forward. I really think that...
6:25Ben Meiselas:I mean, it's quite literally the worst event ever. I mean, here you have disappointed great American State Fair attendees yesterday. Here's what they had to say. What do you think of all of this? Not much. Not much? I've been to state fairs all throughout the United States. This is terrible. And how so? It's a program-length advertisement for the president. It's interesting. It's very interesting. I've never seen anything like this before, for sure, in my 27 years of living in Virginia, a little near the D.C. area. And does anything jump out at you? No, nothing. There's no cows. There's no sheep.
7:09There's no goats. It's not a state fair without animals. There's a butter cow, I'm told, at least in the Iowa booth, maybe. It'll melt by tomorrow. I'm totally underwhelmed. It's part political. That arch over there is, I think, promoting one of Trump's vanity projects. I compare this to the Smithsonian Folklife Festival that they do every year, which is wonderful. Really, you know, talks about different cultures and countries. This is so bland, but I had to come down and see it. The multiple stages at the event were largely empty.
7:47Ben Meiselas:CNN was at the Great American State Fair. Again, not great, not a state fair. They describe how the Trump regime has been very troubled by the, quote, anemic showing of people here. Not that many people. And they show what it looked like. Here, play this clip. Conditioning, if you can, you can't expose yourself to this very long. And they're pointing in some ways, like to the visitors here at the Great American State Fair events here, because a lot of these people are out in the sun and it's only going to get hotter. In fact, some of the exhibits today, they've had intermittent power problems.
8:20They lost air conditioning today so much that the workers there simply left their stations and said, fend for yourself, tourists, as best you can. Different message from the administration, though. They've been very troubled by the anemic showing of people here, not that many people. They've been troubled by the embarrassment of what's happened with the reflecting pool down the way. and they really want to have a lot more people out, especially for the 4th. But a big challenge there, too. Security is going to be at the level of an inaugural event, which means more roads closed, more blockages for pedestrians, more waits.
8:53And by the way, Jake, the fireworks are not expected to go until maybe 11 o 'clock at night. That's more time waiting in the heat.
9:01Ben Meiselas:Then the Midas Touch Network's own Scott McFarlane was there yesterday, and he described how D.C. is hotter than an air fryer and how worried he is for the health implications of the fact that the Trump regime is doing this on July 4th with 107 degree weather. Here, play this clip right here. Welcome to the air fryer that is the nation's capital right now, trying to find the shade wherever I can. Let me tell you what's going to happen Friday and Saturday. temperature above 100 degrees. They're forecasting 103 degrees here. That's the same window for America's 250th birthday. And that is the same window for Trump's rally in celebration of America's 250th birthday.
9:48They're going to have to do something. I know his rally may be later in the day or after dark in spots with this celebration, but people are going to drop like flies in this heat, in this oppressive heat. If they have to be out here all day, there are limitations on the amount of water bottles people can bring in, which is something they may want to revisit. There's not a lot of shade to be had. I found one of the few spots in which it exists around here. And the fireworks don't go off till after 11 p.m. It's not a great explanation for that that's been issued, but that's a choice. It keeps people out here on the mall longer.
10:26Who knows what the crowd size is going to be. Trump rallies tend to turn out people, but the great American state fair down the road, it's like tumbleweed is rolling through the National Mall. There's just nobody here. Weather hasn't been great, but it's a politicized event. Trump hijacked the American 250th celebration that was approved and for which planning began And in 2016, and the politicization of this event, of this national celebration, has turned people off and has convinced people not to come. It is a tumbleweed now. With the heat this weekend, we'll see what happens next.
11:10Ben Meiselas:And so yesterday in North Dakota, Donald Trump was bragging about how he was looking forward to giving a speech in 107 degree weather. And it's going to show how tough he is that he can give a speech in 107 degree weather, as one account says. Wow, Mr. President, I bet you'll be so strong. You could go out during the hottest part of the day and stand in direct sunlight in a wool suit with no water while you give that long speech. That would show everybody. Donald, here, play this clip. On July 4th, it's going to be approximately 107 degrees out. And I'm going to go and I'm going to make a really long speech just to show that I can do anything.
11:53It's going to be 107.
11:56Ben Meiselas:And doesn't that stand in stark contrast to Prime Minister Carney during Canada Day? You saw the speech that he gave where he did a hydration break and wanted to make sure that everybody in the crowd was doing okay. Here play this clip. Speaking of which, before I introduce Jeremy finally, public service announcement. It is time for a hydration break. It's hot. If you're watching at home, it is hot here. I also want to give a special shout out to Jean Park and Amanda Moore, and also Anarchy Princess. They've been capturing great images of what's been unfolding at the so-called Great American State Fair, which is like the biggest disaster ever.
12:37Ben Meiselas:You can take a look at this photo right here of Amanda and Jean capturing these bizarre moments, this very odd time in American history. Also, Amanda Moore captured this image right here as workers appear to be laying some kind of netting across the Lincoln Memorial reflecting pool this evening, presumably in preparation for the fireworks on July 4th. Then I'll share this with you as well. Yesterday, Trump ranting and raving like a lunatic about vandals throwing algae into the reflecting pool. That's why he just turned this thing so weird. Nobody wants to be affiliated with it. Let's play this clip.
13:19Beautiful. We got rid of the algae, which they put in. They put in algae. Who the hell put in algae? They had a couple of people with signs, protect the algae. Can you believe this? This world has gone crazy. But today I'm proud.
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From the publisher
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump panicking as his staff begs him to cancel his July 4 speech as they fear no one will attend just like no one is attended Great American State Fair.
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