Trump Frozen Out as World Leaders Engage Iran

3 Aug 2026 · 26 min · 7 chapters

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In short

The episode argues that under Donald Trump the U.S. is “erratic” and losing credibility, prompting world leaders to bypass Washington and contact Iran directly to avoid escalation over Iran and the Strait of Hormuz. It also claims the U.S. is weakening its regional posture (bases, missile defenses) and ties the Iran crisis to other controversies (Epstein files, pandemic narratives, and alleged migrant operations).

Guest backgrounds

No guests are identified in the transcript. Named commentators/sources include Daniel Davis, Robert Niblett (Chatham House), Aaron David Miller (Carnegie Endowment), and Senator Mark Kelly; Katie Fang is quoted.

Key claims

Allies pressured Trump to cancel strikes; no real Hormuz/nuclear deal exists; Iran destroyed U.S. early radar and infrastructure in regional bases; U.S. deterrence credibility is undermined; DOJ is allegedly blocking Epstein-related investigations.

Notable examples

Calls from UK/Ukraine/Bulgaria to Iran; Trump’s “World War II” strike threat; Saudi/UAE/Qatar phone readouts; CENTCOM tankers attempt thwarted by Iran; references to Munich Conference remarks by Mark Kelly; Epstein file investigation delays; alleged Morocco/Spain migrant “op.”

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World Leaders Ditch Trump for Iran Engagement

0:00 to 11:20

Discussion on global leaders reaching out to Iran, signaling a shift away from US influence under Trump.

“Let's just go through piece by piece what has taken place here.”

Trump's Influence and Global Economic Consequences

11:37 to 14:00

Analysis of Trump's weak influence on international relations and its economic implications.

“it's connected to the catastrophic war in Iran.”

Iran's Strategic Alliances

14:00 to 14:31

Learn about Iran's growing alliances with China and the implications for U.S. foreign policy.

“They know that Iran is allied with China.”

Senator Kelly's Insights from Munich

14:31 to 16:32

Discover the concerns expressed by global leaders about U.S. leadership from Senator Kelly's perspective.

“We heard recently from Senator Kelly, Mark Kelly.”

U.S. Cover-ups and International Reactions

16:32 to 17:35

Explore the allegations surrounding U.S. cover-ups of the Epstein files and international investigations.

“You got to get past the president and the immediate people around him.”

The Moroccan Migration Operation

17:35 to 20:01

Analyze the alleged operation involving Morocco and its implications for U.S. domestic politics.

“But what this all goes back to also is the Epstein files as well.”

U.S. Reliability in Global Affairs

20:01 to 21:05

Reflect on how U.S. reliability in international relations has changed under the Trump administration.

“that about$20 to$40 million was given by the United States State Department to Morocco before this operation took place for unallocated funds, likely for this purpose.”
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0:00Ben Meiselas:Furious world leaders are ditching Donald Trump in the United States, and they are frantically reaching out to Iran, trying to cut deals directly with Iran, recognizing how catastrophically erratic and irreparably so the United States has become under Donald Trump and Trump's despicable regime. Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson went on their state TV and talked about how he received calls in the past 24 hours from the United Kingdom, from Ukraine, from Bulgaria, and numerous other countries saying that they do not want any part in any escalation of war with Iran, and that they want to cut deals directly with Iran.

0:45Ben Meiselas:Also, we know that Saudi Arabia and Qatar's foreign ministers both spoke with Foreign Minister Aragji of Iran, and then both the Qatari and the Saudi and the Pakistani foreign ministers, as well as Field Marshal Munir of Pakistan, all reached out to Donald Trump and pressured him not to escalate the catastrophic and unlawful war in Iran, also reminding him that he has run out of Patriot interceptors, THAAD interceptors, Navy destroyers, and that any semblance of future relations between the United States and those Arab nations would be completely severed if Donald Trump escalated this catastrophic war in Iran.

1:37Ben Meiselas:Let's just go through piece by piece what has taken place here. So Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson went on their state media and said, in the past 24 hours, we received numerous calls from the United Kingdom, from Bulgaria and Ukraine, all stating that they will not be part of any conflict against Iran. I mean, Ukraine's foreign minister in the past few days has confirmed these conversations. Five days ago, Ukraine's foreign minister said, I called Iran's foreign minister for a frank conversation. Diplomacy is about a direct conversation, even when it's difficult. I stress that our goal is to avoid unnecessary escalation.

2:23Ben Meiselas:That was reiterated in the phone call to Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson and to the Iran foreign ministry during the phone call that took place over the weekend before Donald Trump announced that he would not be escalating the catastrophic war in Iran. Donald Trump aboard Air Force One also said, we were ready to hit Iran with a powerful strike that has not been seen since World War II. I mean, what is he threatening a nuclear bomb on Iran? But I spoke, he admitted it. I spoke with the UAE and Qatar and Saudi Arabia, and they told me they wanted me to hold off. Well, that's actually not fully true.

3:07Ben Meiselas:The Saudi Arabian foreign ministry spokesperson and MBS, Saudi Arabia said they did not want Trump to escalate. Qatar said they did not want Donald Trump to escalate. But the UAE, which is allied with Israel through the Abraham Accords, they wanted Donald Trump to escalate and they were encouraging them to do so. In fact, you have Israel and the UAE, they're furious at Donald Trump because they made military preparations, which cost them a lot of resources and military readiness, believing that Donald Trump was going to escalate only for Donald Trump to back out of his threats in the last minute yet again.

3:49Ben Meiselas:You have the United States Lieutenant General Leahy rushed over to the Kuwaiti Armed Forces Chief to pose for a photo saying, we just want to reinforce the enduring U.S.-Kuwaiti partnership and our shared commitment to regional security and stability because Kuwait wants them the hell out of their bases there. In Jordan, they want the United States the hell out of the base there. The people of Kuwait, the people of Jordan want the United States there. And at this point, the U.S. has been forced to basically abandon those bases in terms of its military equipment, its planes, and other military capabilities because Iran destroyed the early radar detection systems, most of the containerized barracks where the troops were living, and other critical infrastructure there.

4:37Ben Meiselas:And the United States demonstrated that its so-called Arab umbrella or Arab dome, you know how there's the Iron Dome in Israel. The U.S. promised an Arab dome, and that's why the U.S. wanted their bases in these countries in order to then extract the resources from the countries. We'll do our bases. We'll protect you, but we're going to take your resources, the Arab dome has fallen. Think about what Iran has been able to achieve as the United States bases in all of these countries has been demonstrated not to be able to protect itself. And if the bases can't protect itself, Iran has sent a message.

5:16Ben Meiselas:Really UAE? If y 'all can't protect the US military base, if we want to, you don't think that we could destroy Dubai. We could destroy Abu Dhabi. Really, Bahrain? You can't protect the fifth fleet? You don't think that we can destroy Manama? You don't think we can destroy the city? Really, Qatar? You don't think that we'll be able to destroy Doha if we want to? So now, Israeli officials, they're pissed. They said, we planned the strike. UAE's pissed. They're saying they planned the strike. The UAE lobbied Trump to take more decisive action, according to the Wall Street Journal, and they're perplexed.

5:57Ben Meiselas:But then Saudi Arabia did the following. According to the Saudi press agency, this was the readout from the call between MBS and Donald Trump on Saturday over the weekend. According to the Saudi press agency, the two leaders discussed developments in the region and their regional and international repercussions at various levels. The Crown Prince stressed, quote, the need to prioritize the language of dialogue to reduce escalation and the importance of exerting all possible efforts to achieve calm that paves the way for diplomatic solutions that produce positive results, preserve the security and stability of the region, and prevent being drawn into a wider conflict whose repercussions would affect regional and international security and stability.

6:47Ben Meiselas:the statement added that MBS and Trump reviewed the existing areas of cooperation between the two countries and ways to strengthen them. So when Donald Trump was asked by a reporter aboard Air Force One, what prompted you to call off the strikes? Trump says, I was asked by Saudi Arabia, by UAE, by Qatar and by Iran. We were all set to go just about at this time right now. And It would have been a massive attack. We were all set to go. But when the allies asked to call it off, you got to sort of say, well, let's see. And the reason they asked is they think there's a deal. There's a deal on Hormuz.

7:25Ben Meiselas:And then there will be a deal on the nuclear. You might call it the denuclearization of Iran. So is he now calling Iran an ally as well? CBS, which is state regime media in the United States, reports Trump signals deal to end Iran war may be imminent. and agrees to cancel the attack, as Daniel Davis explains. I'm just asking what should be an obvious question. Why do mainstream media outlets like CBS News here report Trump's words as though they should be taken at face value, that a deal may be imminent when this is just the latest in a long list of Trump tacos? Why does anyone give the slightest legitimacy to his absurd claims?

8:04Ben Meiselas:Here's the truth. The Gulf countries, especially Saudi Arabia, either gave Trump an ultimatum, threatened him or made a strong plea for him not to take action that would certainly result in the destruction of their oil infrastructure. Iran had threatened to retaliate in strong ways and Trump knew that the U.S. would not be able to stop them. Heck, the U.S. Allied commander in Europe, Grinkowitz, he leaked out to the press, pretty much said it publicly, he was running out of assets, Navy destroyers. He couldn't do his job in the Middle East. Trump's decision not to attack was the right one, but it exposes he's got no plan, no way out, no way to escape right here.

8:49Ben Meiselas:Now, a source close to the nuclear negotiations from Iran says there's no agreement. There's no agreement regarding opening the Strait of Hormuz. There's no agreement regarding denuclearization. Trump is making all of this up. In fact, when CENTCOM, after Trump announced that we're in negotiations, it was going to be like World War II, I'm going to drop the nuke. That's what he's implying, right? But we're doing a deal. CENTCOM tried to send more tankers through the Oman route in the Strait of Hormuz. What did Iran do? Pop, just destroyed it. And then on the Iranian media networks, they showed, again, blowing up one of the tankers as well.

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11:36Ben Meiselas:Now, another sign of Donald Trump's utter weakness and the fact that he's utterly panicked, it's connected to the catastrophic war in Iran. As a result of the catastrophic war in Iran, oil shortages in Japan, and just also you have their kind of far right-wing MAGA leader, Takahishi kind of screwing things up the same way Javier Malay in Argentina did, and both because they're Trump bootlickers getting bailouts from Donald Trump, but Donald Trump trying to now intervene to throw billions of dollars to prop up the yen to prevent the yen from collapsing. Treasury Secretary Besant is trying to project that this is strength.

12:18Ben Meiselas:It isn't. The worry is, is that if Japan tries to further bail itself out, it would have to dump U.S. Treasuries. They're like the biggest holder of U.S. Treasuries. And already the U.S. bond market is terrible. I mean, the 30-year Treasury yield, I mean, you know, I'm not being hyperbolic. It could hit 5.5 % soon. I mean, it is horrific. And that just means the U.S. is gonna have to pay more interest on its debt. And the interest alone, I mean, is going to cause, again, an inability to ever reduce the deficit. Okay, while all of this is, let me just read for you what some of the military assessments are.

13:02Ben Meiselas:Robert Niblett, former director of the Chatham House independent think tank in the UK, says, this is a strategic loss and an embarrassment for the United States, U.S. allies, and those who rely on the U.S. for security. This is confirmation you can trust the United States. He continued, people won't forget that their security and their futures were dragged into question by an unpredictable and wavering U.S. foreign policy. Aaron David Miller, a former American negotiator and senior fellow at Carnegie Endowment says, the U.S. has undermined any deterrence credibility, antagonized its allies, and delighted its adversaries.

13:42Ben Meiselas:You know, while Donald Trump posts AI images of himself leering over what purports to be Greenland, threatening Greenland, hello, Greenland, or says Venezuela is the 51st state or bailing out Japan, the world sees absolute weakness. And that's why you have country after country reaching out directly to Iran, reaching out to Foreign Minister Aragji. They know that Iran is allied with China. They know the new security umbrella in the region is going to be a Chinese security umbrella, not a U.S. And frankly, the Arab nations are welcoming a Chinese security umbrella over a U.S. Trump security umbrella, which showed to be complete and utter weakness right before our very eyes.

14:26Ben Meiselas:Now, I want to share this with you as well. I think it's very important. We heard recently from Senator Kelly, Mark Kelly. He was recently interviewed by Katie Couric. Love Katie Couric. Very close with the Midas Touch Network. We're very close with Katie. Great work. Here's what he has to say when he went to the Munich conference, how our former allies, how other people talk about us right now. Here, play this clip. I was at the Munich security conference and talked to some number of prime ministers, deputy prime ministers, foreign ministers, defense ministers. Hey, they they don't know what to think.

15:11I mean, they have we try to. What do they say? Myself and others. they're like what is going on i mean they think we've lost our minds we're talking about attacking greenland the united states of america invading greenland i had a conversation with the prime minister of denmark and the prime minister of greenland who are like obviously they're angry angry at us u.s senators why are you allowing this to happen what is the is the president of United States going to invade Greenland. And all we can say is, well, we hope not. We're trying to push back at this. The prime minister of Greenland told me that children in Greenland are now afraid of Americans.

16:00Afraid. And in Denmark, the Chinese poll higher than the United States of America. Denmark used to be one of our strongest allies. And all of our European allies are just wondering what happened. And I try to explain to them is, hey, the United States that you know, the ally that is still there. It's just like one level down. You just got to get through this administration. You got to get through the, and this is a problem. You got to get past the president and the immediate people around him. But the American people are still your friend, and we are still your allies. But we're going to have to get beyond this administration to try to repair the relationship.

16:55Ben Meiselas:Now, I want to talk about another perspective as well of what's going on as the U.S. is covering up the child sex trafficking ring of the Epstein files. international investigations are continuing. So Katie Fang, you know who's heroic, Katie Fang who's been pushing for the release of the Epstein files, she's talking about how in all these other countries, France, England, Sweden, you name it, they're doing investigations into the people behind the Epstein files while the Trump regime is covering it up. This is another layer because you had Trump get into the catastrophic war to cover up the Epstein files.

17:34Ben Meiselas:Now, apparently, he wants to bring back conspiracies about the pandemic to cover up for the catastrophic war, which is covering up for the Epstein files to attack Fauci, whatever the hell they're doing. But what this all goes back to also is the Epstein files as well. And we can't forget that. Here's what Katie Fang says. Let's play. The money makes no sense. the amount of money laundering that happened here, the amount of money that traded hands by and between people in rarefied air with kajillions of dollars, giving all this money to Jeffrey Epstein. And it wasn't because they just liked him.

18:06There was a reason why. And then the fact that it's taking France and England and other foreign countries to be able to launch investigations. And yet our American DOJ is sitting on it doing absolutely nothing, including not cooperating with those foreign nations is such a big red flag. It means they are protecting someone or some group of people that they think not only deserve it, but because they're being told to protect them. And that is the problem I have with lovers of torture videos having their names redact.

18:34Ben Meiselas:And finally, I would be remiss if I didn't mention this. And both Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene point this out. This is what we talked about as well several days ago. Remember how we talked about how we believed that what really went down in In Sieta, Northern Africa, which is part of Spain, was King Mohamed of Morocco was working with Trump and Netanyahu to release the 50 ,000 Moroccan migrants into Spain. By the way, Spain very quickly returned all 50 ,000 migrants back to Morocco. But this whole thing was an op by Trump and Netanyahu and the dictator of Morocco in order to create these visuals.

19:24Ben Meiselas:One, to attack Spain after Spain, again, refused to allow the United States to use its bases and airspace for the catastrophic and unlawful war in Iran. But also Trump wanted these visuals of migrants running into Europe, even though it's part of Europe technically, but it's North Africa. and Trump wanted to say, you see, this is my talking point for the midterms, everybody. This is my new talking point. He literally said that at Camp David. This is what it's going to look like if you vote for the Democrats. This was an op. And what Massey and Marjorie Teller Green point out is what I was showing you, that about$20 to$40 million was given by the United States State Department to Morocco before this operation took place for unallocated funds, likely for this purpose.

20:15Ben Meiselas:So the U.S. sent$40 million to King Mohammed of Morocco to transport these migrants into Northern Africa, which by the way, is still separated by the Mediterranean Sea from mainland Spain. It wasn't like the people arrived there, but to push all of the people there so that they could basically invade Sieta and then attack Spain. That was the plan. Marjorie Teller Green and Massey confirmed that. So you have Trump running around threatening the sovereignty of everyone, creating global instability and disorder. And that's why these countries are saying, Iran, we want to make a deal with you. Let's do a deal with you.

20:52Ben Meiselas:Crazy stuff. Crazy stuff. I mean, the U.S. being far less reliable, predictable, by far less reliable and predictable than Iran. Like, seriously, that's what the United States has become under the Trump regime. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe, get your copy, pre-order. WTF America comes out October. But please, if you can pre-order it right now, it really helps. It's the book I wrote with my brothers. So pre-order it now. Again, thanks for watching everybody. We appreciate you.

21:36Thank you.

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