Trump Gets Bad News as New Epstein Files Are Uncovered

28 Sep 2025 · 19 min · 12 chapters

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In short

Democrats on the House Oversight Committee say they uncovered new Jeffrey Epstein estate documents showing Epstein’s daily schedule and other details, and they argue the DOJ still hasn’t released the full “Epstein files” (they claim 3–4 terabytes remain). They allege names like Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and Prince Andrew appear, and they criticize Republicans/Mike Johnson for actions they say aim to delay a House vote.

Guest backgrounds

The episode mentions an interview with Adelita Grijalva (Arizona’s 7th District Congresswoman-elect) and quotes/coverage from Rep. Robert Garcia (ranking member, House Oversight).

Key claims

Redactions protect Epstein survivors’ identities; a discharge petition needs 218 signatures; Grijalva says she’ll sign immediately; Congress work was canceled to avoid her swearing-in; Trump allegedly deflects by talking about Amelia Earhart instead.

Notable examples

“Lunch with Peter Thiel” (Nov 27, 2017); “Breakfast with Steve Bannon” (Feb 16, 2019); “Reminder, Elon Musk to Island” (Dec 6–13, 2014); Prince Andrew listed on a passenger manifest (May 12, 2000).

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New Epstein Files Unearthed

0:00 to 0:26

Learn about the new Epstein documents revealed by House Democrats.

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New Epstein Files Unearthed

1:30 to 1:53

Learn about the new Epstein documents revealed by House Democrats.

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New Epstein Files Unearthed

2:00 to 3:14

Learn about the new Epstein documents revealed by House Democrats.

“They are led by the ranking member Robert Garcia.”

Key Figures in Epstein's Life

3:14 to 4:19

Explore connections between Epstein and notable figures like Trump and Elon Musk.

“But this is a massive cover-up, of course, going on by Donald Trump's White House.”

MAGA's Tactics and Discharge Petition

4:19 to 5:25

Discuss the implications of MAGA Republicans' actions to block the release of Epstein files.

“She is the new Congresswoman-elect from Arizona's 7th Congressional District, just won by more than 40 points in a special election that just took place again in Arizona.”

Detailed Examination of Epstein's Schedule

5:25 to 7:10

Examine the details of Epstein's daily schedule and its implications.

“Magamike is going to try to avoid swearing in Congresswoman Adelita Gravalha.”

Trump's Reactions and Claims

7:10 to 10:40

Analyze Trump's bizarre responses related to the Epstein files and Amelia Earhart.

“So the more and more it looks obvious that Donald Trump is covering up for his rich friends who donated to his campaign and who've given him money.”

Trump's Reactions and Claims

10:46 to 11:01

Analyze Trump's bizarre responses related to the Epstein files and Amelia Earhart.

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Congresswoman Grijalva's Insights

11:01 to 12:22

Hear Congresswoman Grijalva's thoughts on the political implications of the Epstein files.

“But in that birthday book, there was a lot of other stuff as well, right?”

Bannon's Involvement and Legislative Action

12:22 to 14:00

Discuss the potential involvement of Steve Bannon and legislative efforts regarding Epstein.

“Folks, this looks more and more and more like the Jeffrey Epstein shutdown, the Jeffrey Epstein shutdown.”
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Discussion on Epstein Files and Trump

14:00 to 17:41

The hosts discuss the implications of new Epstein files and their connection to Trump.

“Do you think they have any credibility left to pursue this?”

Discussion on Epstein Files and Trump

17:55 to 18:28

The hosts discuss the implications of new Epstein files and their connection to Trump.

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1:59Ben Meiselas:New bombshell Epstein files have been uncovered by the Democrats in the House Oversight Committee. They are led by the ranking member Robert Garcia. Democratic Congress member Garcia has been incredibly focused on bringing to light the Epstein files, despite the MAGA Republicans trying to block it each step of the way. The House Oversight Democrats just reported on their findings that they got based on these subpoenas that they've been issuing. This is what the post was from the House Oversight Democrats. New documents from Epstein's estate detailing his daily schedule. They show meetings with Steve Bannon, Peter Thiel, and a potential visit to Epstein's island for Elon Musk.

2:48Ben Meiselas:Prince Andrew is listed as a passenger on Epstein's jet. DOJ must release the Epstein files now. Now, this batch of documents does not come from the Department of Justice. You'll recall the Department of Justice just turned over 33 ,000, not just, they turned over only 33 ,000 documents that were the old files that were produced a long time ago with nothing new at all. There remains about three to four terabytes that actually constitutes the Epstein files with the witness interviews, the surveillance footage, the FBI investigative reports, all of that stuff, which they are hiding, which we know Donald Trump's name is all over based upon what Attorney General Pam Bondi had told Donald Trump back in May.

3:37Ben Meiselas:But this is a massive cover-up, of course, going on by Donald Trump's White House. Trump's White House said that it is a hostile political act for anybody in the Republican Party to help the Democrats bring to light the Epstein files. He said it would be a hostile act for any Republican to sign the so-called discharge petition, which has been circulated by Democratic Congress member Ro Khanna and Republican Congress member Thomas Massey, which is about to have its 218th signature, which is the requisite amount needed to force a vote on the House floor to release the Epstein files. Adelita Gravalha.

4:21Ben Meiselas:She is the new Congresswoman-elect from Arizona's 7th Congressional District, just won by more than 40 points in a special election that just took place again in Arizona. She said she's going to Capitol Hill to try to avoid a government shutdown on Monday, which the Republicans and Donald Trump want. But she said she will sign that discharge petition right away for the release of the Epstein files. Now, notably, MAGA Mike Johnson has canceled the workdays of Congress for next Monday and Tuesday, September 29th and September 30th. MAGA Mike has canceled the days of work, saying Republicans do not show up.

5:03Ben Meiselas:I believe one of the main reasons that Donald Trump and MAGA wants to force this shutdown is because Adelita Gravalha, once she becomes officially the Congresswoman, will sign that discharge petition and demand the release of the Epstein files through a House floor vote. And by shutting the government down and not showing up Monday and Tuesday, Magamike is going to try to avoid swearing in Congresswoman Adelita Gravalha. Again, let's just go through what these new documents from Epstein's estate detailing his daily schedule look like. That's where these documents come from. So you take a look at November 27th, 2017 right here, and you'll see it says lunch with Peter Thiel.

5:46Ben Meiselas:Then there's a departing via JetBlue, a flight right there. The redactions are victims and survivors. That's why some of these are redacted or potentially to protect the identities of potential victims and survivors is what the House Oversight Committee wrote, the Democratic House Oversight Committee wrote. Then there is dinner and award ceremony at Cipriani Wall Street, a very fancy banquet hall there. When you go look at February 16th, 2019, you'll see it says breakfast with Steve Bannon. And then it says breakfast with Reed Weingarten right there. More on Bannon in a moment. Then you look at Friday, December 5th, 2014.

6:31Ben Meiselas:And it says to be determined, tentative breakfast party with Bill Gates, invited Ron Barron and Josh Harris awaiting reply. Then it says September, December 6th, 2014, New York Zorro, Gregory riches on holiday in Aruba, December 6th through 13. Reminder, Elon Musk to Island December 6th. Is this still happening? In other words, a trip appeared to be being set up between Jeffrey Epstein and Elon Musk. We don't know if the trip took place or what happened. It's just in the documents right there. Musk's name is right there. Again, a great fine by the House Oversight Committee. So the more and more it looks obvious that Donald Trump is covering up for his rich friends who donated to his campaign and who've given him money.

7:21Ben Meiselas:You take a look right here at this passenger manifest as well, May 12th, 2000 right here, and you see Prince Andrew, a bodyguard, and someone named Adam Perry Lang is on a new flight manifest from Teterboro, which is an airport in New Jersey for private jets like the Epstein plane, and it's going to West Palm Beach right there. That's a notable find as well. The oversight Dems write, redactions are to protect the identities of Epstein survivors out of caution. It is notable, right, that back on July 8th of 2025, Elon Musk said that Bannon is in the Epstein files. Also, of course, you remember a few months back, Elon Musk said, time to drop the really big bomb.

8:09Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT. Mark this post for the future. The truth will come out. Well, it also looks like Elon's name is in those files as well. You may remember the reporting back from October 16th, 2021 by Saloon and others. Steve Bannon contacted Jeffrey Epstein over worries he would flip on Trump. New book claims, you were the only person I was afraid of during the campaign. Bannon allegedly told Jeffrey Epstein during a meeting that reporting from October 16, 2021 by Tom Baggioni seems to be pretty prescient in what we've now learned.

8:53Ben Meiselas:Now, how is Donald Trump responding to this news today? Well, Donald Trump says he will be releasing the files. Well, the Amelia Earhart files, that is, not the Epstein files. Trump goes, I have been asked by many people about the life and times of Amelia Earhart. Such an interesting story. And I would consider declassifying and releasing everything about her, in particular, her last fatal flight. She was an aviation pioneer, the first woman to fly across the Atlantic Ocean and achieve many other aviations first. And Donald Trump says, I will release all government records related to Amelia Earhart and her final trip.

9:29Ben Meiselas:No, we want you to release the Epstein files is what we want you to release. There's about three to 4 terabytes of it. And what's on there must be absolutely horrific. If by you thinking that the way you're behaving now is better than releasing what's in those files, that tells me a lot. Cozy Earth's pajamas and blankets are so soft, so breathable, and so cute. You'll start planning your evenings around them. I've got their bamboo stretch knit pajamas. And let me tell you the first time I slipped them on, I could not believe how light and cool they felt. They've got this luxurious drape and they honestly sleep degrees cooler than cotton.

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11:00Ben Meiselas:And of course, we've already reported on what was in that birthday book, not only Donald Trump's letter. Now Donald Trump claims it was a forgery of a birthday card by a time-traveling forgerer of Donald Trump who went back in time to plant it in the Epstein birthday book where they talk about enigmas and secrets and a bunch of really creepy stuff. But in that birthday book, there was a lot of other stuff as well, right? Friends of Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago and Epstein holding a big check that said like$22 ,500 of a Donald Trump purchase for a depreciated woman that Jeffrey Epstein was going to hand over.

11:38Ben Meiselas:That's what they found to be humorous at the time. There was creepy cartoons that looked like they were drawing Mar-a-Lago with little girls being groomed when they were like given lollipops and then performing sexual acts on Jeffrey Epstein in cartoon form in front of a cartoon that looked like Mar-a-Lago. So a bunch of really despicable stuff there. By the way, I had the opportunity to interview Democratic Congresswoman-elect Grijalva, Adelita Grijalva. And she told me basically that MAGA Mike's refusing to swear her in right now. And she wonders, is it because I'm the 218th signature on the discharge petition to release the Epstein files?

12:22Ben Meiselas:Folks, this looks more and more and more like the Jeffrey Epstein shutdown, the Jeffrey Epstein shutdown. Here, play this clip. So the latest is I was looking at the example of now Representative Walkinshaw from Virginia, who was elected two weeks ago, Tuesday. And that following Wednesday, less than 24 hours was sworn in. And with unofficial results, it literally says so in, you know, the congressman who was introducing him, like, here's unofficial results, but it's not disputed. And it was approved without objection. So for me, this Chicana from Tucson, apparently the rules have now changed in two weeks, and we're being asked for official results.

13:08And there's conversations with our Secretary of State, Fontes. And so I'm sort of wondering why in two weeks the rules are so different. And maybe it has something to do with the fact that I'm number 218. I don't know.

13:22Ben Meiselas:Now, I would be remiss if I did not show you this clip, especially knowing that Steve Bannon's name was in that files. Remember when Steve Bannon held this event back on July 11th of 2025, where people showing up at this right wing event. They were having this meeting with Bannon and Bannon said, do you believe that the DOJ and FBI right now have any credibility left to pursue the Epstein case? And this is what one of the guests suggested here play this clip. Agree with a special prosecutor has to be an independent special prosecutor has to take over. Do you believe that DOJ and FBI right now with the guys who are all close to Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino, Cash Patel.

14:05Do you think they have any credibility left to pursue this? No. And I'll tell you exactly why, Steve, because in 2016, we trusted the plan with Trump. But now Trump has become the deep state. The exact thing he we voted him in. Why do you say why do you say he's become the deep state? What is more deep state than covering up for pedophiles? Why would you go to that island? Why? Tell me why would you go to that island? Why would you go on the plane?

14:32Ben Meiselas:And then finally, as I mentioned at the outset, Democratic Congress member Robert Garcia, he says that in terms of subpoenaing individuals to show up before this House Oversight Committee, Steve Bannon is in his sights. Here, play this clip. Congressman, can you give us a sense of where else you might cast your net? I've asked a few members of Congress about this a few times this week already. Is Steve Bannon in your sights? He says he has 15 hours of footage of Jeffrey Epstein. There are some finance guys here in the city of New York who we know, because of some of the reporting and revelations around this, who already we know have had a relationship with him.

15:10Are there other people the lawmakers are going to subpoena, seek to have testify, visit Capitol Hill? Where does this go next? Well, absolutely. I mean, look, there's right now we are working on a lot of different avenues to get information. Obviously, you mentioned earlier, we're right now working and trying to get information from the Epstein estate, which likely is in possession of this so-called birthday book that has not just a note from Donald Trump, but others as well. So that's going to be critical. And there are other documents the Epstein estate might have that we're right now evaluating.

15:41So that's going to be an important piece of it. Look, we also have a active whistleblower program. There are folks we know not just in the Department of Justice and the FBI, but others in business. And you said within some New York circles and other places that have information that we want to access. And so we're right now actively working on not just different ways of getting the information, subpoena power, working with those Republicans that actually want to be bipartisan and get to the truth. All of it is on the table. But I also don't want to minimize what we were able to do last week for the American public.

16:13I mean, we want a bipartisan subpoena of the full Epstein files unredacted from the Department of Justice. And that was done in a way where some Republicans, we got them to break and join us. And so that needs to happen immediately. And James Comer in the next few days needs to issue that subpoena.

16:31Ben Meiselas:Congressman, could you now I should also mention that the House Oversight Democrats, this is not a partisan investigation. The Democrats also posted that they found other information here. Here are pages naming Bill Clinton and Larry Summers. The Clinton document was already public, he says, in connection with flights and flight manifests. But people knew that Clinton was on that flight. So it's nothing new to begin with. But it's the Democrats just releasing this information, regardless of who it is. Here it is. We all want the release of the Epstein files. MAGA Republicans want the Epstein government shutdown right now.

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