In short
The host argues that California Gov. Gavin Newsom is delivering “karma” by directly calling Donald Trump and Stephen Miller fascists, contrasting it with Trump/MAGA messaging and alleged authoritarian actions. Key claims include: Newsom’s “moral clarity” posts expose fascism; a White House spokesperson (Caroline Levitt’s office) allegedly used the profanity “go fuck yourself” in response to a shutdown funding condition; Trump is “waging war” in American cities and threatening political opponents’ arrest; Trump is humiliating the U.S. internationally; and Democrats should pressure for healthcare coverage in any funding deal.
Guests
No guests are mentioned; the episode is a monologue centered on Newsom’s social media posts and related political commentary.
Notable examples
Newsom’s fascism-definition post; “Stephen Miller is a fascist” exchange; Breitbart abortion-pill anonymity claim and Newsom’s “write to jail” response; Trump’s alleged “full force” Portland order; Amelia Earhart/Epstein files messaging; anonymous abortion pill protections and Mifepristone coverage; hurricane/tropical cyclone assistance updates.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGovernor Newsom's Bold Statements
1:02 to 1:26
Explore how Governor Newsom confronts Trump and his allies.
“This is how you speak with moral clarity.”
Defining Fascism and Its Implications
1:26 to 2:48
Understand the definition of fascism and its application to current politics.
“Then Governor Newsom writes, Stephen Miller is a fascist.”
Democrats Respond to Trump and Newsom
2:48 to 4:12
Analyze the Democrats' stance on government funding and healthcare in light of Trump's actions.
“The White House spokesperson responded as it relates to Trump negotiating with Democrats, go fuck yourself.”
Gavin Newsom's Moral Authority
4:12 to 5:26
Discuss the moral authority exerted by Governor Newsom against Trump and his policies.
“It's why you just have to be freaking forceful and you have to be peaceful, but you got to speak with forceful moral clarity.”
Empathy in Politics
10:25 to 11:58
Explore the importance of empathy in political discussions, especially in contrast to right-wing movements.
“And I love that because we got to talk about empathy as well, right?”
Trump's Aggressive Tactics
11:58 to 14:00
Examine Trump's militaristic rhetoric and its implications for American cities.
“And then Governor Newsom goes, America says, release the Epstein files.”
Governor Newsom's Warning on U.S. Militarization
14:00 to 16:47
Learn about Governor Newsom's concerns regarding the militarization of American cities and its implications for democracy.
“And so if there's anything I want to communicate for those of you particularly outside this country, we are your stable and reliable partner.”
Trump's Political Tactics and Public Response
16:47 to 17:51
Explore Trump's political tactics against Newsom and how they reflect broader issues in U.S. governance.
“Democrats and Republicans should wake up to what is happening currently in this country, and it's happening here first, but we are just America's coming attraction.”
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18:03 to 18:34
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Transcript
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1:01Ben Meiselas:This is how you mock, humiliate, and bully Donald Trump to his face. This is how you speak with moral clarity. No one's doing it the way California Governor Gavin Newsom is right now. I want to highlight what he just did over this weekend. Gavin Newsom posted the following. Ding-dongs in the White House. If you don't want us to call you a fascist, then stop doing fascist things. Then Governor Newsom writes, Stephen Miller is a fascist. So then that smokes out Don Jr., who whines. He knows exactly what he's doing. To which Governor Newsom responds, yes, calling out your dad and his authoritarian stooges for being fascist.
1:44Ben Meiselas:That's what I'm doing, Governor Newsom writes. Then Stephen Miller responds, why do you think they posted this? Governor Newsom doesn't apologize. He goes, because you are a fascist. That's why. Then Governor Newsom posts the textbook definition of fascism in response to Stephen Miller's post. Fascism, an authoritarian far-right political ideology defined by a dictatorial leader, aggressive nationalism, suppression of opposition, and tight control over all aspects of society. So are Trump and Miller fascists? One, an authoritarian far-right political ideology defined by a dictatorial leader? Yes.
2:28Ben Meiselas:Two, aggressive nationalism? Yes. Three, suppression of opposition? Yes. Four, seeks tight control over all aspects of society. Then I want to see more Democrats messaging the Trump-Jeffrey Epstein government shutdown this way, the Democrats have said, look, any government funding deal must extend healthcare coverage for 20 million Americans. White House, go fuck yourself. Actual quote. That is an actual quote. The White House spokesperson responded as it relates to Trump negotiating with Democrats, go fuck yourself. That was the actual quote. I'm not like hyperbolic or paraphrasing. That's what the White House official spokesperson said that came out of Caroline Levitt's office.
3:19Ben Meiselas:More on that in a little bit. So it's interesting, right, in response to Governor Newsom calling Stephen Miller a fascist because Stephen Miller is a fascist. Donald Trump is a fascist. You know, all these MAGA people, They get smoked out from their little caves and they start to whine and now they play the victim. Laura Loomer, of all people, goes so much for turning down the temperature. When are we going to admit that Gavin Newsom is one of the ringleaders of assassination culture? He's deliberately trying to get Trump officials killed. I truly believe it. Oh my God, Laura Loomer, are you going to cry?
3:58Ben Meiselas:You see what these MAGAs do? the moment you stand up to them and exert moral authority, real authority, and stand up to these losers because they are a movement of losers. You know how they behave? Oh my God, they're going after me. You're doing this. You're doing that. It's why you just have to be freaking forceful and you have to be peaceful, but you got to speak with forceful moral clarity. Governor Newsom goes, Is this turning the temperature down? Laura Loomer sending armed Marines into American cities, calling Democrats a terrorist organization, using the DOJ to go after political opponents, limiting free speech, saying speaking out is blood libel, creating an enemies list.
4:49Ben Meiselas:Oh, and Governor Newsom could have went on for thousands of pages, but he highlighted just that from the past week that the Trump regime engaged him. Here's the thing. We have a fascist, authoritarian, dictatorial regime of losers leading the country right now. And these corporate sycophants, these wannabe oligarchs who are selling the rest of us out, they are showing utter weakness. And fortunately, we have people like Governor Newsom exerting moral authority and moral clarity right now. Again, Governor Newsom highlights that Caroline Levitt's quote. This is a real quote about the shutdown. Go F yourself.
5:34Ben Meiselas:Democrats, funding the deal must include extending existing health coverage. Levitt, go F yourself. Now, Breitbart tries to attack Governor Newsom and says, Gavin Newsom allows California doctors to prescribe abortion pills anonymously to skirt red state laws. Governor Newsom's response, Breitbart got it right. For once, Governor Newsom posts, this means if you're a Democrat, write to jail. Call Trump or Miller a fascist, jail. Have a brain, jail. Then there's this meme right here with Stephen Miller, fascism. Just say it. Just say it because all Americans feel it. We all know this is a fascist regime.
6:14Ben Meiselas:We know the United States of America is not in a constitutional crisis. We are beyond it. We live in a fascist regime right now run by a bunch of freaking losers who, I mean, you saw Donald Trump at the United Nations. You saw what the world saw about the United States, that we're a bunch of losers under Donald Trump. This is utterly humiliating. If you think that is strength, then you're a loser because Donald Trump, that pathetic, bumbling, idiotic fool who's up there saying, oh, I got$17 trillion of tariffs. We're so rich. You didn't do any of that. There was a$2 trillion increase in our deficit in the last fiscal year.
6:54Ben Meiselas:That's more than under former President Biden. Last month, the fiscal deficit increased$345 billion. So if you brought in$17 trillion, where the hell is all of this money? And by the way, why isn't there peace in Ukraine in 24 hours? Why didn't you stop the atrocities in Gaza in 24 hours? Didn't you promise that? Didn't you say you would end inflation right away in groceries? groceries what a new novel word for you it would all be so much cheaper on day one and now you claim it is but we people who exist in the real world not in the don the donald trump club rose garden world not in your cabal of elite oligarchs that you're covering up for who may be in the epstein files as well in the real world stuff is very expensive right now okay and people are suffering living paycheck to paycheck which is psychological torture for most americans while you are grifting from the White House, making billions of dollars, and you just think everyone else is as stupid as some of your core MAGA mush cult followers?
7:54Ben Meiselas:Most Americans aren't. That's why your approval rate's at 38 % right now. Sorry, I digress. Let me go back to Newsom's post right here. Governor Newsom writes, we're days away from a MAGA meltdown in Congress. Trump's party is skipping work. Trump is on the golf course. Meanwhile, Americans are about to see their healthcare bills skyrocket. Donald Trump is a weak and failed president. Then Governor Newsom posts, poor Petey Hegseth wants to be taken seriously, but looks like the guy TLC fired from Duck Dynasty. Weak, no brains, no talent, zero future. He wants to be secretary of war, but cannot even throw an ax or do a pull up sad.
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10:24Ben Meiselas:Then Governor Newsom posts this post of himself hugging a constituent. Trump spreads fear. Patriots spread love. Do your part this week. And I love that because we got to talk about empathy as well, right? Trump and MAGA and their right-wing fascist extremist movement, they say they hate empathy, right? Elon Musk said he hates empathy. These right-wing MAGA influencing, empathy is a bad word. No, empathy is a great word. You could be a strong man and say you like empathy. That's actually what it means in my view to be a strong man. That's what my dad taught me is that your word matters and that empathy is a good thing.
11:05Ben Meiselas:You should care about people. You should lift people up, not punch people down. We need to talk about that. As I've said over and over again this week, moral clarity, moral clarity, moral clarity. Now, as Donald Trump on Saturday announced a military invasion of Portland, Oregon, he demanded that Pete Hegseth invade it with military troops. And it seems like Donald Trump also gave an order to kill if necessary, because Donald Trump says, I'm authorizing full force if necessary. Governor Newsom responds, Donald Trump is waging war in American cities. The courts have already said that this is illegal, but he's pushing forward anyway.
11:44Ben Meiselas:This isn't about holding violent organizations accountable. This is about inciting violence and chaos so he can continue to consolidate power. Wake up America. Then Donald Trump posted about releasing the Amelia Earhart files. And then Governor Newsom goes, America says, release the Epstein files. Donald Trump says, did you say Amelia Earhart? Then Governor Newsom from his official governor's account goes, with abortion rights and reproductive freedom under assault by politicians across the country, California stands firmly by a woman's right to choose. Our defense of these fundamental rights is unshakable under the laws I just signed.
12:30Ben Meiselas:Providers can prescribe abortion care to patients anonymously to guard against attacks from anti-abortion extremists. California health plans must cover Mifepristin, even if the FDA revokes their approval. Providers are more protected from legal action for administering medication abortion. Now, Governor Newsom also posts that he is announcing that California is once again answering the call for assistance from other states facing multiple storms in the Atlantic, including a potential Category 4 hurricane off the East Coast and Tropical Cyclone 9, which has the potential to develop into a hurricane early next week, threatening Georgia, the Carolinas, and other Atlantic states.
13:13Ben Meiselas:This effort does not impact California's ability to respond to emergencies at home. But do you see right there, Governor Newsom serving as a leader for the country right now? Right. Well, Donald Trump is posting photos of himself golfing at the or watching golf at the Ryder Cup this weekend. Governor Newsom's talking about things that actually matter, like there's this big tropical cyclone that may turn into a hurricane. Normally, in the normal world, a president would be talking about this, starting to amass troops. I doubt that Trump even knows that's even going on. Now, Governor Newsom sends this message to leaders around the world.
13:54Ben Meiselas:Play this video.
13:56Gavin Newsom:We're what's left of environmental policy, despite the headwinds in Washington, D.C. And so if there's anything I want to communicate for those of you particularly outside this country, we are your stable and reliable partner. And we will continue to be in this space.
14:13Ben Meiselas:And then finally, Governor Newsom posted this yesterday. This was an interview, this is what I did with him about a few months ago, or in June. He goes, in June, Governor Newsom told Mycelisby, that's me, the militarization of Los Angeles was a preview of things to come. Since then, Trump's deployed the U.S. military against Americans in American cities, in D.C., and is threatening to do the same in Chicago, Memphis, and now today in Portland, Oregon. Here, play this clip. So Donald Trump earlier today echoed what his borders are, Tom Homan said, which is that they want you arrested. Trump was asked why he wants you arrested.
14:55Ben Meiselas:He says because you're the governor and you won election. That's one of the reasons he wants you arrested. So what's your response to that, Governor?
15:03Gavin Newsom:Was that said by Erdogan? Who was that said by? Was that some dictator, some authoritarian in the history books? That was said by the president of the United States. I've never thought, honestly, and I don't want to be hyperbolic, act like a victim and all that. I honestly literally never thought in my life I'd hear those words uttered from the president of the United States, threatening the arrest, directing the arrest of a political opponent that, quote unquote, won an election and happens to be governor of the largest state in our country. and for what? Not only winning the election, but it's really about having the audacity to call him out on his unconstitutional actions and to call out what this is all about.
15:49Gavin Newsom:This is about the erosion of the rule of law. This is about a system of checks and balances, popular sovereignty, co-equal branches of government. We lost a full branch of government. It's gone. And that's Congress. There's no oversight. There's only one other branch outside the executive that may or may not be left. And that's the branch he's threatening with impeachment. And he's threatening as it relates to court actions that he may or may not follow, depending on the rule of Don. And that's the courts. And that's what we've got left. And so we have to stand up. We have to call out what this is really about.
16:27Gavin Newsom:We have crossed the red line. We can get in a posse comitatus. We can get into this unlawful action, but this is a national action that is occurring first here in the state of California. The executive order and the mobilization order that came from the DOD impacts every state in the United States of America. Democrats and Republicans should wake up to what is happening currently in this country, and it's happening here first, but we are just America's coming attraction. This is a preview of things to come all across the country.
17:01Ben Meiselas:And meanwhile, on Trump's social media platform, there are ads. So Trump's getting paid off of ads like this that say, we're giving away free Newsom sucks shirts to anyone who signs our petition to stop Newsom from turning the USA into California. buy your Newsom sucks shirts that's what you're going with Donald Newsom sucks that's why you got to stand up you got to stand up to these fascists you got to label what they are you got to call them out with moral clarity that's what people want to see they want to see fighters right now because they see the destruction and devastation that Donald Trump and Stephen Miller, and that regime is inflicting on we the people.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump getting beaten and outmaneuvered by California Governor Gavin Newsom who is powerfully pushing back on Trump in public with the force and moral clarity Americans have been looking for at this moment in history.
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