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The MeidasTouch Podcast Summary: Episode - Trump Gets Instant Karma as Bluff Is Called on Files!!
Episode Overview In this episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas discuss the latest developments surrounding Donald Trump and the Epstein files, emphasizing the repercussions Trump's actions and statements are having on both his political standing and public perception.
Key Themes and Discussions
- Trump's Immediate Crisis
- Instant Karma: The episode opens with Ben discussing how Trump is experiencing "instant karma" due to the resurfacing of the Epstein files. The implications of these files are deepening and cannot be ignored.
- Clinton's Testimony: Former Presidents Bill and Hillary Clinton have expressed willingness to testify regarding the Epstein files publicly, prompting questions about Trump’s potential involvement and willingness to testify as well.
- Trump’s Disastrous NBC Interview
- Praise for Bill Clinton: In a surprising turn, Trump praises Bill Clinton during an NBC interview, highlighting a shift in his rhetoric.
- Questionable Responses: Trump attempts to deflect discussions about the Epstein files and his own indictments, emphasizing instead the negative press coverage he receives.
- The Epstein Files’ Significance
- High Number of References: Ben highlights the staggering number of references to Trump in the Epstein files, suggesting that the information could be damaging to him politically.
- Missing Documents: There is a mention of missing documents that could further implicate Trump, with Ben humorously noting that Trump is mentioned more than Harry Potter in the context of these files.
- Reactions from Political Figures
- Speaker Mike Johnson's Evasion: Mike Johnson is depicted as trying to dodge questions about Trump’s potential testimony, illustrating the pressure on Trump’s allies.
- Comparative Political Responses: The hosts discuss how other countries are addressing politicians' connections to Epstein, contrasting them with the situation in the U.S., where Trump remains a central figure in these discussions without significant consequence.
- Trump's Conspiracy Theories
- Election Fraud Claims: The podcast covers Trump’s repeated claims of election fraud, including bizarre conspiracy theories surrounding international interference.
- Media Manipulation: Ben explains Trump’s tactics of spreading misinformation through social media, highlighting the absurdity of some claims.
- Other Noteworthy Mentions
- Steve Bannon’s Comments: Bannon’s comments regarding polling stations and ICE’s controversial tactics are discussed, showcasing the extreme rhetoric being employed in Trump's circle.
- Public Perception and Polling: Trump's claims of favorable polling are countered by factual corrections from reporters, illustrating a disconnect between his assertions and public sentiment.
Key Takeaways
- Karma is Unfolding: The hosts emphasize that Trump's past actions and current circumstances are converging to present a challenging scenario for him.
- Political Accountability: The discussions bring to light the importance of holding public figures accountable, especially in light of serious allegations.
- The Role of Media: Media coverage and public discourse around Trump and the Epstein files continue to evolve, influencing public perception and political strategy.
Conclusion In this episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, the Meiselas brothers dissect the interplay of politics, media, and public accountability surrounding Donald Trump, particularly focused on the ramifications of the Epstein files and Trump's ongoing controversies. The mix of humor and serious analysis makes this podcast a lively and engaging discussion for listeners interested in contemporary political issues.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Panic Over Epstein Files
2:19 to 4:37
Discussion on Trump's reaction to the Epstein files and calls for his testimony.
“He is flailing as he has been hit in the face by instant karma.”
Trump's Disastrous NBC Interview
4:37 to 5:57
Analysis of Trump's NBC interview and his comments on ICE and Border Patrol.
“So Speaker of the House, MAGA Mike Johnson, Trump sycophant is asked by Manu Raju, do you think Donald Trump should have to testify under oath now?”
Trump's Lawsuit and Economic Claims
5:57 to 7:59
Trump discusses his lawsuit against the IRS and claims about the economy.
“They don't talk about we have the smallest trucks.”
Impact of Epstein Files on Global Politics
7:59 to 11:28
Exploration of how the Epstein files are affecting political figures in the UK.
“You're settling with, you're stealing our taxpayer dollars?”
Bannon and ICE's Intimidation Tactics
11:28 to 14:01
Bannon's remarks about poll security and ICE's methods of intimidation.
“And there are a lot of people are saying, look, Prime Minister Starmer is a good, decent guy.”
Bannon's Election Strategies and ICE Tactics
14:01 to 14:42
Learn about Bannon's aggressive tactics for the upcoming elections and the controversial actions of ICE agents.
“And so here's what Bannon said yesterday.”
Trump's Conspiracy Theories and Denials
14:42 to 15:27
Explore Trump's reactions to questions about his outrageous conspiracy theories and claims.
“Lawmakers are calling this move an intimidation tactic because the ace of spades is also known as the death card, often associated with psychological warfare.”
Trump's Tactics and Scams
15:27 to 16:32
Discuss Trump's ongoing strategies and tactics, including potential plans involving Maduro and Venezuelan conspiracies.
“And you believe that, that there's, you know, Venezuela was working with Italian CIA, China.”
Melania's Press Conference and Trump's Emails
16:32 to 17:39
Review Melania Trump's evasive responses and a look into the questionable nature of Trump's emails to supporters.
“Oh, Melania was asked about Ghislaine Maxwell when she was holding a press conference using hostages who were freed, American Israeli hostages who were freed, but she was using that to promote her movie.”
Transcript
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2:15Ben Meiselas:mochi members have access to licensed physicians and nutritionists results may vary Donald Trump is panicking. He is flailing as he has been hit in the face by instant karma. You now have former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying, you know what? You want us to testify about the Epstein files? We'll do it. Let's do it in public. So, hey, Donald, why don't you testify in public as well? We're not afraid. We want to do it in front of the world, live on TV. So Donald Trump held this disastrous exclusive interview with NBC. And Donald Trump then starts praising former President Bill Clinton.
3:01Ben Meiselas:And he's like, you know what? I really like Bill Clinton now. And I'm really upset that they're going to make him testify. And I think that he really understands who I am. Watch this. Here, play this clip. It bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton.
3:17Donald Trump:See, I like Bill Clinton. I still like Bill Clinton. What do you like about him? I liked, well, I liked his behavior toward me. I thought he got me. He understood me.
3:27Ben Meiselas:Really, Donald? And then Donald Trump responds to this next question. Well, Democrats are saying that if former President Clinton testifies, you should testify to watch Donald Trump's response.
3:39Donald Trump:It is a shame. NBC News broke the story today. I don't know if you saw it, that the Democrats are already saying, if you bring President Bill Clinton and he has to testify, we're bringing President Trump. What do you say to that? I think they might say that, you know, but they've already brought me. See, I've been brought. They had me indicted many, many times, many, many times. They didn't do that to Atlanta.
4:00Ben Meiselas:Do you think? And it's not just Donald Trump panicking right now because what's in those Epstein files? That ain't going away, Donald. And it's only a partial release of the documents. I mean, we know that there's at least 3 million more documents, which could equate to 25 to 50 million pages that are still missing. I saw this meme and it's true. Did you know that there are more references to Donald Trump in the Epstein files than there are references to Harry Potter in all seven Harry Potter books. Yeah, there's over 38 ,000 references to Donald Trump in the Epstein file. So Speaker of the House, MAGA Mike Johnson, Trump sycophant is asked by Manu Raju, do you think Donald Trump should have to testify under oath now?
4:47Ben Meiselas:And MAGA Mike tried to run away. Here, play this clip.
4:51Donald Trump:Shouldn't Trump have to answer some questions too? He's been named more than a thousand times in these documents. The president submits to press inquiries every day. Not under oath, not under oath. Not under oath, but he's asked the questions all the time and he answers them.
5:05Ben Meiselas:We'll see where it goes. Now, that interview that Donald Trump did on NBC was disastrous on a lot of fronts as well. I mean, Donald Trump was asked about his ICE and Border Patrol, Gestapo, murdering Americans and killing people. And Donald Trump's concern is, yeah, my big concern is it's bad press. It was bad publicity. Donald Trump's like, you killed two people and all of a sudden I'm getting bad press. Why am I getting bad, bad press? You have ICE and Border Patrol Gestapo killing people and you think about it in terms of ratings. How sick. Here, play this clip.
5:43Donald Trump:It's bad. I hate it. I hate even talking about it. Two people out of tens of thousands. OK. And you get bad publicity. Nobody talks about all of the murderers that were taken out of our country. They don't talk about. But it was two Americans. They don't talk about we have the smallest trucks. As an example, we've been very tough on the waters and soon, you know, pretty much overall. But if you look at
6:08Ben Meiselas:if you look at the waters where we knock out boats and then Donald Trump says, but, you know, I'm getting great polls right now. Great polls. I'm bringing in 18 trillion dollars. you know and to the credit of the reporter the reporter fact checks him to his face and says actually your your polls are really bad people hate what you're doing to the economy and donald trump's like oh whoa oh really here watch what goes down let's play this clip i'm getting starting
6:34Donald Trump:to get great polls on the economy which i think the polls on the economy aren't aren't they're they're not great they should be great they should be so why aren't they if you believe that i don't know i don't i mean look i've got americans tell us we hear this i mean we're going to get into the economy later, but I mean, they tell us they don't feel it. I have$18 trillion being invested into the country. Biden had less than a trillion for four years and the whole country was going to credit. You know, when does America feel it? You know that if they won that election and we won in a landslide, you know, if they won that election, this country was, I think it was finished.
7:09Donald Trump:I actually think it was finished.
7:10Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump starts bragging that he has already won the lawsuit that he has filed for$10 billion against the government, which should be we, the people's government, which he's essentially taken over. He says that, yeah, I won the lawsuit and now I'm going to pay myself$10 billion. He sued the IRS because he said they leaked his tax returns like 10 years ago when every other president released their tax returns. And so he says, well, now I'm going to pay myself$10 billion. And the reporter's like, you know, we have$38 trillion in debt. So you're going to be taking money from the system in order to pay yourself.
7:55Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump's like, yeah, but I'm going to, I'll give it to a charity. What are you talking? You're settling with, you're stealing our taxpayer dollars? Play this clip.
8:04Donald Trump:Essentially the lawsuit's been won. I guess I want a lot of money. Scott Besson's the head of the IRS. I know what I want to do. Pam Bonney's the head of the Justice Department. They're going to defend the IRS against you. You're their boss. Well, there's never been anything like it, in all fairness. So are you going to tell them to pay you? Don't forget, I sued as a private citizen because I sued between terms. I won three times. But are you going to tell them to pay you? I won three times, but I didn't assume, unfortunately for this country, I didn't assume office the second time. But here's the story.
8:32Donald Trump:I sued because they broke into Mar-a-Lago. That was before I became president. Now it goes along, and it turned out that the suit is a very strong suit. you're going to tell them to pay you though you're the boss well i what i would do tell them to pay me but i'll give 100 of the money to charity i don't want any of that money take it out of the system um a couple more questions here no no i'm putting it back into the system yeah if i give money to american cancer society i will i will give 100 of the money away to charity i don't want any 30 trillion dollar debt and we're going to take 10 billion out of the system well i mean you give it away anyway they give away a lot of money your endorsement i'll tell you what yeah Speaking about that, Minnesota and these other states, we have massive investigations going into fraud.
9:16Donald Trump:Do you know if we captured 50 % of the fraud of this country right now, we would have better than a balanced budget? And you've got to mention that Minnesota,$19 billion in fraud.
9:30Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump brags about taking aspirin all the time so he has thin blood and he wants his blood to be nice and thin. I mean, this guy's a madman. Here, play this clip. Still taking the aspirin?
9:42Donald Trump:Still taking the aspirin? I do. I take aspirin. And I don't want to change, you know? So you go against your doctor's orders. You do what you kind of feel. You know, I've been taking aspirin for 30 years, and I don't want to change it. So, you know, they take the smaller one. I say, well, I want that blood to be nice and thin running through my heart.
10:01Ben Meiselas:Now, the dominoes are falling since the release of these Epstein files. We've seen national security advisors like in Slovakia fall. We've seen no longer really Lord Mandelson, the former UK ambassador to the United States. Brad Karp, who is the chairman, the former leader of the Paul Weiss law firm. Remember that first law firm that capitulated to Donald Trump and entered into that settlement to people like Paul Weiss is such a prominent firm. Why would they capitulate to Donald Trump? Well, it turns out that in 2019, Epstein was exchanging emails with Brad Karp about helping each other out and helping out other people there and this grotesque messages.
10:56Ben Meiselas:And so Brad Karp is now resigning from Paul Weiss. We're like, Why would Paul Weiss do this deal with Donald Trump? Oh, got it. Their chairman was in the Epstein files. And by the way, it's looking like the Labor Party's leader in the UK, Keir Starmer, Prime Minister Starmer. That government's falling apart right now because of the fact that Mandelson, the UK ambassador to the United States, is all over the files. He's very influential in the Labor Party. And there are a lot of people are saying, look, Prime Minister Starmer is a good, decent guy. And I think he's been really good with Ukraine.
11:36Ben Meiselas:I think he's been really weak in dealing with Donald Trump. And I understand there's complexities in the geopolitical situation. But in any event, he had a disastrous appearance before parliament yesterday. Because I don't care what political party you're from. You know, this is a massive, massive issue. If people are in these files and a very influential person in the labor leaders in the files who is the UK ambassador to the United States. So watch as you had someone from the opposition party questioning Starmer, you know, and Starmer struggled to get through this. but at least they're like, it's bandaged, ripped off in the parliament there.
12:15Ben Meiselas:And they're talking about these issues. And, you know, here in the United States, I mean, you see what Mag and Mike is. So just like can contrast how in every other country, there's like things that are happening now, if you're affiliated with Epstein, but not in the United States where Donald Trump's at the heart of the cabal. Here, play this clip right here.
12:34Donald Trump:Can the prime minister tell us, did the official security vetting he received mentioned Mandelson's ongoing relationship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Prime Minister? Yes, it did. As a result, various questions were put to him. I intend to disclose to this house, all of the national security prejudice to international relations on one side. I want to make sure that I want to make sure this house sees the full documentation so it will see for itself the extent to which the extent to which time and time again, Mandelson completely misrepresented the extent of his relationship with Epstein and lied throughout the process, including in response to the due diligence.
13:28Ben Meiselas:You know, and so as Donald Trump gets more and more desperate, I think we're going to start to hear things like this. You had Steve Bannon yesterday saying that we're going to have ice surround the polls come November. Remember earlier this week, Donald Trump was posting photos of Steve Bannon saying great guy. Steve Bannon's all over the files. Steve Bannon was talking to Epstein right up until Epstein's death about rehabilitating Epstein's image, giving information, seems like funneling information to Trump from Trump. I mean, those are all over the files. Bannon, Epstein, Trump. And so here's what Bannon said yesterday.
14:07Ben Meiselas:Let's play this clip. You're damn right. We're going to have ice surround the polls come November.
14:13Donald Trump:We're not going to sit here and allow you to steal the country again. And you can you can whine and cry and throw your toys out of the pram all you want. But we will never again allow an election to be stolen.
14:25Ben Meiselas:And speaking of ICE, did you know that ICE agents have apparently been dropping these ace of spades cards as death cards when they detain people? They like they're like terrorizing people with these death cards. Have you seen this? Here play this clip.
14:41Donald Trump:Today, members of Congress are raising serious questions about this ace of spades card that they say is being placed by ICE agents in Colorado on the abandoned vehicles of people who have been detained. Lawmakers are calling this move an intimidation tactic because the ace of spades is also known as the death card, often associated with psychological warfare. One leader from an immigrant rights group in the state told a local station that they know of at least two people who had the card on their vehicles.
15:12Ben Meiselas:So the reporter then asked Donald Trump, you know, look, you tweeted out some theories about like, you know, theories like your conspiracies about Italian satellites changing the election results in 2020. And you believe that, that there's, you know, Venezuela was working with Italian CIA, China. They mean, I mean, I mean, understand the conspiracy theory. And Trump's like, I didn't tweet it. I re-truthed it. Play this clip.
15:41Donald Trump:You tweeted out some theories about Italians and satellites. I mean, do you believe that stuff? No, no, no. No, I didn't. I sometimes will re-truth. Yeah. I will re-truth.
15:52Ben Meiselas:And we also have been learning that Donald Trump's director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, has been spending a lot of last year in Puerto Rico, where she's been investigating one of Trump's deranged conspiracies of Hugo Chavez, Venezuelan machines hacking into the American. Again, I can't even follow what these conspiracy theories are. But I think one of the things that Trump's going to try to do with Maduro is get Maduro to plead guilty and say that Venezuela interfered with the 2020 election. That seems to be an obvious thing that Trump's trying to do. Oh, Melania was asked about Ghislaine Maxwell when she was holding a press conference using hostages who were freed, American Israeli hostages who were freed, but she was using that to promote her movie.
16:46Ben Meiselas:Then she was asked a question about Ghislaine and she's like, I do not want to talk about this. Here, play this clip.
16:51Donald Trump:There's a call from any press survivors about Ghislaine Maxwell moving to a high security. Thank you, Russ. We are here celebrating the release and the life of those two incredible people. So let's honor that. Thank you, Russ.
17:07Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump's been sending emails like this to his supporters. It says, from Trump, hello, before I sign your name on your tariff check, I want to check that your name is spelled right. So it says, and then it's a photo of Trump holding$100 bills. and you click it because he says he's going to give you money. This is the only tariff rebate email authorized by Donald Trump. Then again, when you click the email, there's no tariff rebate check. You think you're getting a tariff rebate check because you click the money, but you give him your money. I mean, he's just a scam artist and everything.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump finally getting hit with the karma he deserves as the Epstein files are not going away and all his other massive failure are getting highlighted as well.
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