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Episode Title
Trump Gets Rebuked on House Floor…By The GOP!!
Air Date
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Hosts
Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
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Episode Overview In this episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast, Ben Meiselas discusses a significant political event: Donald Trump's recent rebuke by his own party during a House vote on tariffs against Canada. The episode highlights key moments and implications of the vote, showcasing the dynamics within the Republican Party and the responses from various political figures.
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Key Topics Discussed
- House Vote Against Trump’s Tariffs
- The House of Representatives voted 219 to 211 to block Trump’s tariffs on Canada.
- This marks a rare instance of Republicans siding with Democrats against Trump’s policies.
- The vote included six Republican representatives joining Democrats in opposition.
- Republicans Who Voted Against Trump:
- Thomas Massey
- Don Bacon
- Brian Fitzpatrick
- Jeff Hurd
- Kevin Kiley
- Dan Newhouse
- MAGA Mike Johnson's Role
- MAGA Mike Johnson attempted to prevent the vote on the tariffs through procedural rules but was outvoted.
- His reaction post-vote indicated no concern, asserting that Trump could veto the resolution.
- Trump’s Response
- Trump threatened repercussions for any Republican who voted against him, claiming his tariffs were beneficial for the economy.
- Trump's claims include a substantial reduction in the trade deficit and stock market highs, which Ben debunks as exaggerated.
- Economic Implications of Tariffs
- Discussion on how tariffs impact American consumers, with statistics indicating that 95% of tariffs burden U.S. consumers.
- Ben highlights that tariffs are essentially a tax on consumers, which has led to increased costs of living for families in Republican districts.
- Political and Public Sentiment
- Ben references a recent poll indicating that Canadians overwhelmingly disapprove of Trump, while Americans maintain a positive view of Canada.
- The episode discusses the importance of relationships with Canada, particularly in light of recent tragic events in British Columbia.
- Future Legal Challenges
- Speculation on the Supreme Court's potential ruling against Trump's tariffs, with a prediction market indicating a 70% chance that the tariffs would be ruled illegal.
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Key Takeaways
- Shift in Republican Dynamics: The episode illustrates a growing divide within the Republican Party as members begin to distance themselves from Trump’s policies.
- Economic Reality Check: Meiselas provides critical analysis of Trump's economic claims, emphasizing the real consequences of tariffs on everyday Americans.
- Public Opinion Matters: The contrasting public sentiment between Americans and Canadians towards Trump underscores the potential political ramifications of his policies.
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Conclusion The podcast episode delivers a strong critique of Trump’s tariffs and highlights the Republican Party's evolving relationship with the former president. It raises concerns about the economic impact of such policies on American families and reinforces the notion that political accountability is gradually being asserted by members within the GOP.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOHouse Floor Vote on Trump's Tariffs
2:21 to 4:25
Discussion on the House's vote against Trump's tariffs on Canada.
“The joint resolution is passed without objection.”
Republican Defiance Against Trump
4:25 to 6:20
Exploration of Republicans defying Trump's threats regarding tariffs.
“vote against him and MAGA Mike Johnson would suffer severe consequences.”
Economic Impact of Trump's Tariffs
6:20 to 9:21
Analysis of the economic implications of Trump's tariffs on the American public.
“tariffs against the world by Trump were rebuked by Congress.”
MAGA Mike's Responses on Tariffs
11:46 to 14:00
Discussion on MAGA Mike Johnson's reactions to Congress's actions on tariffs.
“rescinding Trump's Canada tariffs, which is a massive rebuke of him and Donald Trump.”
Concerns Over DOJ Weaponization
14:00 to 15:00
Explore the implications of the Department of Justice's actions and military orders.
“I am very much and very consistently opposed to the Department of Justice being weaponized in any way.”
Rejection of Indictments and Political Gambits
15:00 to 16:40
Discuss the statistics of grand juries rejecting indictments and the political context.
“So in fiscal year 2013, for example, as Aaron Blake points out, federal grand juries rejected indictments just five times out of 165 ,000 cases.”
Canada's Unpopularity of Trump
16:40 to 19:10
Analyze Canadian sentiment towards Trump and the implications for U.S.-Canada relations.
“First year of a second term, 66 percent, 66 % give a giant big F.”
Impact of Tariffs on Tourism
19:10 to 20:40
Examine how tariffs have affected tourism and the economic consequences.
“And it may all be for not, because chances are, at least according to those who are putting their money where their mouth is, that the Supreme Court is going to rule against Trump's tariffs.”
Transcript
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2:33Ben Meiselas:The cheers erupted on the House floor as MAGA Mike Johnson and Donald Trump faced another humiliating defeat by a vote of 219 to 211. the House of Representatives voted to ban or block Donald Trump's tariffs against Canada, to revoke those tariffs. Now, this follows, of course, what took place yesterday when MAGA Mike Johnson tried to bring what's called a rule to the floor, which would have precluded the House of Representatives from voting to block Donald Trump's tariffs against Canada, Mexico, or the rest of the world for an entire year. So MAGA Mike tried to block the debate to prevent Congress from even taking this vote to block Donald Trump's tariffs against the world.
3:31Ben Meiselas:MAGA Mike was outvoted yesterday by a significant amount as well. 217 against the rule and only 214 in favor of the rule. And because voting to block Donald Trump's tariffs against the world is something called a privileged resolution, Democrats were able to bring it to the House floor for a vote yesterday. And the Democrats, along with six Republicans, voted against Donald Trump's Canada tariffs. And this was a massive loss for Donald Trump and MAGA Mike Johnson. Here are the six Republicans who voted against Trump and joined with the Democrats. Thomas Massey, Don Bacon, Brian Fitzpatrick, Jeff Hurd, Kevin Kiley, and Dan Newhouse.
4:24Ben Meiselas:Now, this follows Donald Trump threatening any Republican in the House who would dare vote against him and MAGA Mike Johnson would suffer severe consequences. Well, the Republicans defied him and MAGA. Mike, the Republicans rebuked him. And those six Republicans, at least, joined with Democrats in the House of Representatives. Folks, the dam has broken and Donald Trump is losing each and every day. Here's what Trump posted. Any Republican in the House or Senate that votes against the tariffs will seriously suffer the consequences come election time. And that includes primaries. Our trade deficit has been reduced by 78 percent.
5:10Ben Meiselas:The Dow Jones has just hit 50 ,000 and the S &P 7000, all numbers that were considered impossible just one year ago. Really, our deficit has decreased 78 percent. You're just making up numbers. Donald Trump goes on to say, in addition, tariffs have given us great national security because the mere mention of the word has countries agreeing to our strongest wishes. Tariffs have given us economic and national security and no Republican should be responsible for destroying this privilege. President Donald J. Trump. The privilege is in Article One of the Constitution. The power belongs to Congress.
5:50Ben Meiselas:Congress has the power over taxes and tariffs are a form of tax. So if indeed that privilege, as you call it, or what seems to be a curse is wanted because 95 % of it's passed on to consumers, which is why inflation is surging and actually why we had a jobs recession last year. Congress can pass a law, but Congress doesn't want this. They just rebuked you, Donald. Donald Trump also posted the following message as well, right as these tariffs against the world by Trump were rebuked by Congress. Trump posts, Canada has taken advantage of the United States on trade for many years. They are among the worst in the world to deal with, especially as it relates to our northern border.
6:36Ben Meiselas:Tariffs make a win for us easy. Easy Republicans must keep it that way. President Donald J. Trump. Now we know that Donald Trump always attacks Canada, defames Canada, calls it the 51st state, attacks its sovereignty. But what makes this specifically disgusting is that for anybody following world events, in British Columbia, Canada just suffered a major school shooting at a school in British Columbia where nine innocent people lost their lives. Shooter took his own life as well. 25 people seriously injured. Mostly all the countries across the world called Canada to show remorse, standing with Canada.
7:25Ben Meiselas:You know, when I heard from Prime Minister Carney earlier in the day, he mentioned all the countries that called him. He didn't mention the United States. Instead, Donald Trump, rather than showing sympathy and remorse for what's going on in Canada right now, Donald Trump posts this attack. At the same time, Congress voted to revoke, remove, rebuke. You pick the R word, you pick whatever you want to call it, but stop the tariffs. Congress member Don Bacon, Republican, writes the following, Congress has Article I constitutional responsibility on tariffs. We cannot and should not outsource our responsibilities.
8:01Ben Meiselas:As an old-fashioned conservative, I know tariffs are a tax on the American consumers. I know some disagree, but this debate and vote should occur in the House. We also heard from Gary Shapiro, who was reposted by Don Bacon. These tariffs aren't strategic. They make products less affordable, squeeze manufacturers and slow startups. Thanks to House Dems and Kevin Kiley, Don Bacon and Massey for rejecting yesterday's procedural motion and preserving congressional authority on trade. And as Brendan Duke explains and as reposted by Don Bacon, wow, the Congressional Budget Office just came out with its latest estimates.
8:42Ben Meiselas:And it estimates that U.S. consumers bear 95 % of the Trump tariffs. Basically, foreign firms bear 5 % of them. U.S. companies bear 30 % of them. But other U.S. companies get to raise prices on consumers from less competition so that nets to zero and consumers pay the rest. And Don Bacon reposts Scott Lincecum saying, shocked, shocked, I tell you, that the CBO would find basically the same thing regarding tariff incidents that the St. Louis Fed, the Keel Institute Tax Foundation, Harvard Business School, and others have found. Shocked, shocked, I tell you. State regime media, which calls itself Fox, is saying tariff turmoil.
9:26Ben Meiselas:The House passed legislation aimed at reversing Trump's tariffs on Canada, with several Republicans joining Democrats for a rare rebuke of Donald Trump. By the way, just take a look right here at some of these statistics. We did this analysis using the Yale Budget Lab and CBO and Joint Committee on Taxation data. The Trump Republican cost of living in MAGA Mike's district increased about$2 ,000 average for 298 ,000 working and middle class families in Louisiana's fourth congressional district. The same analysis for Steve Scalise's district, Ray's costs about$2 ,000 as well. Same thing for MAGA Republican Tom Emmer's district.
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11:45Ben Meiselas:Now, Maga Mike was asked what he thought about this House resolution rescinding Trump's Canada tariffs, which is a massive rebuke of him and Donald Trump. And Mag and Mike's like, he's not upset. He'll just veto it. He'll just veto it. He'll just veto it. Okay, well, if there is a super majority, he can veto it. But in any event, even if he vetoes it, we now have all of the Republicans in the House and soon to be in the Senate on record about where they stand on causing these massive tax increases on the American people who are suffering, Maga Mike, because these are being paid by the American consumer.
12:25Ben Meiselas:Watch what Maga Mike has to say. Play this clip. They will pass the house version of the bill.
12:32Ben Meiselas:How upset will President Zee will be if Trump is bucking him on tariffs right now? He's not upset. I just left the White House. He understands what's going on. It's not going to affect or change his policy. He can veto these things if they come to us. The president's trade policies are working. Look at the economic data. Look at the stock market above 50 ,000. Look at the reduction in the trade deficit by 78%. The number just came out. There's no reason to reverse course right now. Thank you.
13:01Ben Meiselas:Also, Maga Mike was again asked today by Manu Raju, who does a great job on capital. Hat tipped him. Hat tipped to our DC Bureau as well, led by Pablo Manriquez, who does a great job. But here Manu Raju is asking MAGA Mike about Donald Trump's DOJ going after those six Democratic lawmakers, the two senators and the four members of the House of Representatives for making a video saying that our troops should not follow unlawful orders, which is just a restatement of the law. MAGA Mike, who's supposed to still protect Article One and things like speech or debate and the First Amendment, he doesn't because he's a Trump lackey.
13:38Ben Meiselas:He's a sycophant. Watch what Maga Mike says as he kind of like walks away from Manu Raju. Play this clip. The administration failed to secure this indictment against those six Democrats. You have been long against weaponizing the Justice Department. How can you how can you say this is not being weaponized when they're going after Democrats and they're not able to even secure an indictment? I am very much and very consistently opposed to the Department of Justice being weaponized in any way. over the four years of the Biden-Harris administration, they were engaging in open lawfare. And we made a lot of noise about that.
14:12Isn't that precisely what's happening right now? Let me tell you what is different here. First of all, I haven't seen any other documentation on the indictment that was being sought in this. And I am a lifelong advocate and a jealous advocate of the First Amendment and free speech. I used to litigate those cases for 20 years. But I would tell you that a line is crossed, And it's very serious when you have leaders here in the Senate in the House effectively telling members of the military to defy orders. And that is exactly the words that they use. And some of these are highly respected former military officers.
14:46And, you know, one of them is a senator who, you know, had a long and storied career. So it has an effect on young service members. It's a very dangerous gambit that they were playing. Should they be sent to jail? Probably not. But we need to call it out as being wildly inappropriate and they need to.
15:03Ben Meiselas:But this was interesting data as well. So in fiscal year 2013, for example, as Aaron Blake points out, federal grand juries rejected indictments just five times out of 165 ,000 cases. Grand juries have now rejected Trump administration indictments for one of the three Comey charges, sandwich guy, several other protesters, Letitia James, Letitia James again. Now, six congressional Democrats. And by the way, we've seen dozens and dozens and dozens of cases be rejected by grand juries under the Trump regime. Also, we seem to be heading towards a shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security. Senator Thune, who is the Senate leader, and MAGA Mike Johnson are basically saying, we're not going to be able to make a deal with Democrats.
15:53Ben Meiselas:We'll see what happens because the MAGA Republicans refuse to have the masks removed from ICE agents, refuse to have ICE agents prevented from going to the polls. Pretty despicable basic stuff. Provide judicial warrants. Oh, my God. The Fourth Amendment. Unreasonable search and seizures. Wow. Wowee. Let's play over here. you have Enten over on CNN just shows you how unpopular these tariffs are against Canada and, you know, why the American people, the American people stand with Canada. It's Donald Trump's ridiculous hatred of Canada is venom. Here, play this clip. Canadians grade of Trump's first term.
16:42Look at this. First year of a second term, 66 percent, 66 % give a giant big F. F as in failure compared to just 6 % who give him an A. And keep in mind that this 66 % includes a plurality of members of every single party in Canada. It doesn't matter if you're on the left or the right. You do not like Donald Trump if you are a Canadian. So if he did make Canada the 51st state and ran for a third term, it seems unlikely he would get Canada's electoral votes. It would seem extremely unlikely that he would get Canadians electoral votes. And I will note that they really don't want to become the 51st state.
17:21How about the other direction? U.S. views of Canada. OK, so if Canadians really don't like Donald Trump, how do Americans feel about Canada? Well, they actually like Canada. Look at this. The net popularity rating of Canada among Americans, among all adults. It's plus 46 Democrats, plus 64 independents, plus 46. And even among Republicans, it's plus 30. Canada was the most popular country tested by this latest poll from the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. And I will note, of course, that this plus 46 is significantly higher than Donald Trump's own net popularity rating here in America. So Canada, more popular than Donald Trump in Donald Trump's own country.
18:03That's something. All right. How has tourism been affected by all of this? Yeah. OK. So, you know, it had the tariffs, you know, then, of course, there's this whole bridge situation. But here's the thing, which is there are real tourist dollars at stake. And take a look here. Tourism in 2025 versus 2024. Canadians to America. Look at that. Down, down, way down, down 25 percent. Americans to Canada, just down about 2 percent. Basically steady. Canadians really taking their anger out by not coming to the country of the United States of America, not spending their tourist dollars. Well, Americans are basically going to Canada in the same numbers.
18:39And this, of course, matters because my sources tell me that Canadians represent the biggest number of visitors to the United States, if any country, on all of planet Earth. All right. You mentioned tariffs. There is a big Supreme Court decision we are waiting on and have been waiting on on whether many of the president's tariffs are legal. What are the prediction markets saying about that? Yeah. OK, so all this may be for naught, because just take a look here. The chance Supreme Court rules against Trump's tariffs, 70 percent, according to the Calusher prediction market, 70 percent chance. So all of this political angst, all of this money lost to tourism.
19:12And it may all be for not, because chances are, at least according to those who are putting their money where their mouth is, that the Supreme Court is going to rule against Trump's tariffs. Someday. Eventually. Eventually.
19:21Ben Meiselas:We don't know when it's going to be. All right, Harriet, and thank you. There you have it, folks. Let me know what you think about all of this. Hit subscribe. Help us get to six million subscribers. We appreciate you all so much. Thanks for everything, everybody.
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