In short
The episode argues Donald Trump is manipulating economic and labor data (“cooking the books”) and is failing on foreign policy/trade, while also criticizing MAGA lawmakers for supporting a major budget/healthcare bill after previously opposing it.
Guest backgrounds
No guests are interviewed in the transcript. The host references editor Ron Filipkowski and commentators (Spencer Hakimian, Larry Borstein) and names political figures (Anna Paulina Luna, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Paul Ingracia, Ralph Norman, Ryan Zinke, Hinson).
Key claims
Trump’s jobs numbers (147,000 in June) conflict with ADP’s private payroll loss (33,000). The host claims the gap is explained by inflated public/education hiring figures. They also claim Iran nuclear sites weren’t fully destroyed and Iran could get nuclear weapons in 1–2 years. They argue MAGA lawmakers “sold out” constituents after meeting Trump.
Notable examples
Bloomberg headline about public/education hiring; Cato Institute estimate of $4T–$6T debt impact; Paul Ingracia’s alleged ties to white nationalism (Nick Fuentes) and 9/11 conspiracy video; lawmakers receiving signed MAGA merchandise in the Oval Office.
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Chapters
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0:30 to 0:56
Explore the latest troubling news about Trump and his economic claims.
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Trump's Fraudulent Claims and Economic Situation
0:59 to 1:27
Explore the latest troubling news about Trump and his economic claims.
“Uh, sorry, I think there's been a mistake.”
Trump's Fraudulent Claims and Economic Situation
2:22 to 6:20
Explore the latest troubling news about Trump and his economic claims.
“He's cooking the books, aka committing fraud, which is what he's done his whole life, right?”
ADP Job Reports vs Trump's Numbers
6:20 to 9:00
Discuss the discrepancies between job reports from ADP and Trump’s claims.
“job growth picks up with health from public education hiring.”
ADP Job Reports vs Trump's Numbers
9:01 to 10:08
Discuss the discrepancies between job reports from ADP and Trump’s claims.
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ADP Job Reports vs Trump's Numbers
10:12 to 10:33
Discuss the discrepancies between job reports from ADP and Trump’s claims.
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MAGA's 4th of July Aesthetic and Political Actions
10:33 to 11:34
Analyze MAGA Republicans' behavior and imagery related to the 4th of July.
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MAGA's 4th of July Aesthetic and Political Actions
11:42 to 14:00
Analyze MAGA Republicans' behavior and imagery related to the 4th of July.
“Just so you know, across the board, this is what the MAGA Republican politicians do.”
MAGA Republicans and the Disastrous Budget Bill
14:00 to 18:02
Explore the backlash against the budget bill and the implications for Americans.
“New York Times actually did a good report on this one about what went down to change the votes of all of these MAGA Republicans who were no, and they said, we're absolutely never going to vote for this.”
MAGA Republicans and the Disastrous Budget Bill
19:05 to 19:42
Explore the backlash against the budget bill and the implications for Americans.
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MAGA Republicans and the Disastrous Budget Bill
19:45 to 21:00
Explore the backlash against the budget bill and the implications for Americans.
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MAGA Republicans and the Disastrous Budget Bill
21:15 to 21:25
Explore the backlash against the budget bill and the implications for Americans.
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Transcript
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2:22Ben Meiselas:So with all of the bad news surrounding Donald Trump, from core inflation increasing to the horrible ADP job numbers yesterday, to the fact that his trade war against the world has been an utter failure, the fact that we've learned that the Iranian nuclear sites were not fully destroyed, and by the Trump regime's own admission from the Pentagon spokesperson, Iran is going to be able to have nuclear weapons if it wanted within about a year to two years. What is Donald Trump doing? Two things. He's cooking the books, aka committing fraud, which is what he's done his whole life, right? I mean, he's a criminal.
3:01Ben Meiselas:He's a felon. He is a fraud. He is a sexual abuser. And what is the other thing that Donald Trump does? Calls Vladimir Putin. So we're seeing that take place this morning. Donald Trump announces, we'll be speaking to President Putin of Russia at 10 a.m. Thank you! Exclamation points. Now, usually when there's a conversation like this, there is a transparent readout of what actually takes place. You're not going to hear that from Donald Trump. You're just going to hear more propaganda and BS. One of the things we learned this morning as well is that the U.S. trade deficit widened in May on weak exports.
3:42Ben Meiselas:So you know how the trade war against the world, they said that, oh, we're going to now have surpluses. The Trump regime doesn't understand deficits and surplus and tariffs. They don't understand the concepts. But what we're learning is that the U.S. trade deficit widened sharply in May as exports fell. But subsiding imports suggested trade could still lead an anticipated rebound in economic growth in the second quarter. We'll see. The trade gap increased 18.7 % to$71.5 billion in May, the Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis. said on Thursday. Now let's get to the fraud part right here.
4:23Ben Meiselas:And I'm not trying to be conspiratorial, so feel free to push back on me if you think in any way that what I'm saying verges on conspiracy. Tell me in the comments how you feel about this. But Donald Trump reports that the jobs reports shattered expectations with 147 ,000 new jobs added in June. And then Donald Trump says, look, my America first policies are working. And then all throughout Fox and all of the cable news networks, not just state regime media, Fox, but others, which are quasi state regime media, they go, holy moly, the jobs report exceeded all of the expectations. 147 ,000 new jobs created.
5:05Ben Meiselas:Everything must be working. So I was a bit skeptical when I heard that number. And I'm not trying to be skeptical just because I don't like Trump. And so you hate Trump, so you got to be negative. I said, well, wait a minute. Yesterday, we reported from ADP, which has all of the private payroll data, that we lost 33 ,000 jobs in the private sector yesterday. So how is it possible that 147 ,000 new jobs were added in June if ADP's payroll data suggests 33 ,000 jobs were lost when there was an expectation that 100 ,000 jobs were created. So is ADP, which just reports on the payroll data that it aggregates, are they lying?
5:56Ben Meiselas:Are they trying to push an agenda? Or is the Trump regime trying to push an agenda? And how is the Trump regime finding these additional jobs if the private sector jobs from ADP says there were 33 ,000 jobs that were lost? You remember the report that I made yesterday on ADP? So where were these other jobs found? Well, you take a headline like this from Bloomberg, U.S. job growth picks up with health from public education hiring. So you dig through the data that the Trump regime is pushing out. And in my opinion, you could have a different opinion. I think they're cooking the books. And here's why.
6:37Ben Meiselas:They're suggesting that 100 ,000 plus jobs were created in the public sector, specifically teaching jobs, they're saying in June. A hundred thousand plus teaching jobs with schools being closed were added in June. And the other growth came from all of these other government jobs that were added. Now, I thought the purpose of Doge was to cut these government jobs. Number one, number right. We've heard about all these mass firings. So we've added hundreds of thousands of government jobs in June. Does that fully make sense to you? And then with all of the attacks on the Department of Public Education, there's all of a sudden, out of nowhere, a massive hiring spree in public education in June, because that's where the additional numbers come from.
7:32Ben Meiselas:So I think we have to use critical thought and say, does that make sense to us at all? Or Donald Trump, who's committed fraud his whole life with numbers, who's made up fake valuations, is once again lying this morning. Our editor-in-chief, Ron Filipkowski, says it succinctly. As I've said a few times now, with Trump's war on career civil servants and replacing them with partisan hacks and their penchant for lying with every single number, the time will come when smart people are going to have to question the data coming out of Trump's labor and commerce. We know that the labor secretary is just a Trump hack.
8:15Ben Meiselas:We know the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, the guy who goes on and looks like he's trying to sell you a sham wow. That's where these numbers are coming from. And as I said, if you think I'm veering into conspiratorial land, feel free to push back. But 100 ,000, all these public education numbers, when the Department of Education is gutting education in June, sorry, call me skeptical or call me whatever. I'm just putting it out there. As Spencer Hakimian says, so who's lying, ADP or the U.S. government? Can't be a 200 ,000 difference. Larry Borstein goes, ADP has the data on payrolls. The government doesn't.
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11:12Ben Meiselas:This is for those internationally. This is what the MAGA Republican aesthetic is today. They think that this is what leadership looks like. By the way, I don't think Anna Paulina Luna is even like her real name. She kind of has a George Santos like backstory where she's changed her name and her identity before. She goes gearing up for no King's Day tomorrow. A friendly reminder that the 4th of July was brought to you by the right to bear arms and the refusal to pay taxes. a fitting day for the BBB to be signed. Happy early 4th of July. Just some weird stuff. Just so you know, across the board, this is what the MAGA Republican politicians do.
11:51Ben Meiselas:Here's Marjorie Taylor Greene to celebrate 250 years of the red, white, and blue. I'm giving away one of my favorite iconic guns. And then it's her just shooting guns. Talking about those Trump appointees, the people who are out there pushing the data right now that the media like regurgitates all the Trump administration told us, let's just report those numbers and not question it. Like Paul Ingracia, nominated to head the federal watchdog, the special counsel's office, tasked with protecting whistleblowers. He's 30 years old. I think he recently just became a lawyer. He shared a 9-11 conspiracy video, claimed straight white men are the most intelligent demographic group and has ties to white nationalist anti-Semite Nick Fuentes.
12:40Ben Meiselas:Well, here's the individual who will be leading the office of the special counsel in the United States of America right now. Take a look right here, what the MAGA Republicans are saying this morning about why they're now supporting the bill that they said that they would never support before like Ralph Norman. He goes, I'm never supporting this. This bill's a disaster, which it is. It's going to cause trillions of dollars to be added in our debt. This is the worst thing imaginable. So the CNBC reporter goes, okay, well, what changed? I visited Donald Trump and he told me that it was going to be great.
13:20Ben Meiselas:Yeah, you're in a freaking cult. You're in a cult. You saw him in the White House and he promised you it was going to be better instead of reading the freaking thing. You're in a cult. These are the biggest idiots I've ever seen. I don't know how else to describe the idiocy here. Here, play this clip. Sir, what I don't understand is you had a view that was negative about this bill yesterday. Is there something different about the bill today? Yeah, it is. We met with President Trump and, you know, he did a master job of laying out how we could improve it, how he could use, as his chief executive office, use things to make the bill better.
14:04Ben Meiselas:So we're learning this story. New York Times actually did a good report on this one about what went down to change the votes of all of these MAGA Republicans who were no, and they said, we're absolutely never going to vote for this. You're going to throw our constituents on the street. You're going to make our constituents die. They're going to be kicked off their Medicaid. We can't support this disastrous budget bill. Well, come on, come to the White House. See Donald Trump. A conga line of angsty Republican lawmakers filed through the West Wing on Wednesday, hemming and hawing about Trump's bill.
14:41Ben Meiselas:They walked out with signed merchandise and photos in the Oval Office. He handed them MAGA merch and signed it, and then they sold out their constituents. And then they're posting photos of themselves holding guns today. That's the state of the United States of America. And here's how they talk about it. MAGA Republican Congress member Ryan Zink. This is his endorsement right here of the bill. Hey, it's not that good. We're just going to do it. It's the best that we can do. The best that you could do, You're kicking 17 million Americans off of their health insurance. You're adding trillions of dollars in debt to our country to give billionaires who don't need it tax cuts.
15:32Ben Meiselas:It's crazy. Here's what Ryan Zink had to say. Let's play the clip. It probably has too much salt, not enough pepper. There are some small gambling issues in it that can be corrected. But I don't think this is the vehicle to correct it. But overall, there's no poison pills in it. If you're a fiscal hawk on one side, you know, you're probably not satisfied. If you're moderate, the other side, you're not satisfied. So overall, I think this is the best we can do at the moment. Best you can do it. And then they're all mourning. They push this like MAGA Republican Congresswoman Hinson on the Medicaid benefits.
16:07Ben Meiselas:You shouldn't be a 29-year-old guy living in his mama's basement, choosing not to work. all of these 29 year olds living in their mom's basement. Here, play this clip. Talk about Medicaid because we are eliminating the waste, fraud and abuse in Medicaid. We want this program to be there for constituents like mine, like Emmeline and Parker, disabled children who need access to these benefits. They shouldn't be going to a 29 year old guy who's living in his mom's basement, choosing not to work. These benefits will be reserved thanks to the work of President Trump and Republicans. We're continuing to stand up for hardworking families.
16:40Yeah, I think Medicaid was the biggest cause of fear for Americans across the country.
16:45Ben Meiselas:Do you understand how Medicaid works? Medicaid doesn't make it like, what do you think? Medicaid makes it like rain on people? The 29-year-old just sitting there getting that Medicaid money, playing the video games. Medicaid pays the providers who do surgeries and give medications. It's reimbursement for services rendered and for medications in the medical field. It's not enriching the 29-year-old person. The 29-year-old person's going to need healthcare one way or another. What do you think this is? You know who actually the bill makes it rain on and benefits? Not this imaginary 29-year-old who's like, oh, I'm going to be so rich by getting a back surgery on my L5 S1.
17:32Ben Meiselas:I'm going to get a micro dissection and I'm going to be rich, dude. Yeah, and I'm going to live in my mama's basement after that micro dissection. What the hell are you talking? It's not life. You know who is the person who now gets to buy an extra yacht because five yachts was not enough for them. And maybe in their next yacht, they'll build a freaking tennis court on it while most Americans can't feed their kids and they live paycheck to paycheck. It's absolutely disgusting. And by the way, if you don't want to believe me about the debt that this bill is going to add, why don't you take a look right here at what the very right wing conservative Cato Institute says.
18:12Ben Meiselas:As written, the bill will add nearly$4 trillion to the debt. Under realistic assumptions about economic growth, congressional extensions of tax giveaways or delays to spending reform, and the fiscal impact of mass deportations, the bill's costs could surpass$6 trillion. Put bluntly, the Senate's mega bill is a fiscal disaster. It violates the House's fiscal framework and speeds the nation towards crisis. Great job, MAGA Republicans and Trump and all of the morons who voted for this group of MAGA idiots. But we here at the Midas Touch Network are going to stand up to it. We're going to call it out each and every day.
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Meidastouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump trying to cover up horrible economic data by going back to his usual fraudulent tricks on Thursday as he is set to cause irreparable harm to this country from the disaster budget bill.
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