In short
The episode discusses Trump’s reported “disastrous landing” after Iran’s Ayatollah rejects meeting, alleged deadlocked Iran-U.S. negotiations over releasing $24B in frozen sanctions, and broader claims about escalating regional conflict and U.S. preparedness. It also covers alleged nuclear-negotiation planning, claims about U.S. airbase damage at Al-Udeid, and accusations involving J.D. Vance and a Mossad plan.
Guests
No podcast guests are identified in the transcript. The episode features commentary from the host and references to others (e.g., Moshe Raza, CNN reporting, Axios leak, Danny Citrinitz, and an unnamed senior U.S. official).
Key claims
Iran will not meet Trump; negotiations are blocked by Trump refusing to release $24B; Iran threatens expanding attacks via Red Sea/Indian Ocean; Trump says talks are going well; Trump’s envoys consult nuclear experts; Bill Pulte lacks clearance/vetting; Al-Udeid was severely damaged early in the war; Mossad accuses Vance of leaking a plan to Turkey.
Notable examples
Moshe Raza’s “no meeting” stance; $24B “test of trust”; threats to shut Bab al-Mandeb/Red Sea and attack U.S. bases; alleged Al-Udeid Combined Air Operations Center missile strikes; Axios-described Oak Ridge consultations; alleged Mossad plan involving Kurdish forces near Turkey.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Disastrous Landing and Ayatollah's Rejection
0:20 to 0:51
Discussing Trump's failed attempts to negotiate with the Ayatollah.
“And we'll meet you there, exactly where you are.”
Trump's Disastrous Landing and Ayatollah's Rejection
0:59 to 3:00
Discussing Trump's failed attempts to negotiate with the Ayatollah.
“Let me show you what Moshen Razi, the Ayatollah's top advisor, former commander of the IRGC, said moments ago.”
Understanding Iran's Position on Negotiations
3:00 to 6:00
Insights into Iran's demands and Trump's negotiation challenges.
“And so whether you like their demands or not is besides the point.”
The Role of U.S. Military Bases and Strategy
6:00 to 9:00
Exploring the state of U.S. military bases amidst tensions with Iran.
“And this can be a new horizon for the future of Iran and America.”
Trump's Comments on Meeting the Ayatollah
9:00 to 12:00
Analyzing Trump's contradictory statements regarding the Ayatollah.
“He says, Trump's envoys, Whitcoff and Kushner, traveled to the National Lab in Oak Ridge, Tennessee on Thursday for consultations with a new team of experts ahead of potential nuclear negotiations with Iran.”
Israel's Mossad and J.D. Vance Controversy
12:00 to 14:00
Discussion of allegations against J.D. Vance regarding classified information leaks.
“official and other people informed about the attack told Air and Space Magazine, no personnel were injured.”
Transcript
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1:00Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump just had a disastrous landing aboard Air Force One as he learned that the Ayatollah, through the Ayatollah's main representative, Moshe Raza, is saying under no circumstance does the Ayatollah want to meet with Donald Trump. No interest in meeting whatsoever. Let me show you what Moshen Razi, the Ayatollah's top advisor, former commander of the IRGC, said moments ago. Then in a little bit, I'm going to show you what Trump's reaction to that was. But let's play this clip. Military advisor of the Supreme Leader. How is the Supreme Leader doing? Is he fully in control of everything? And President Trump said that he would be honored to meet the Supreme Leader.
1:45This will not happen. Right now, we are in the first stage of negotiations, and Mr. Trump has brought the negotiations to a standstill. This will not happen.
1:57Ben Meiselas:Also Moshe Nrazi, who is the Ayatollah's top advisor, again a former commander at the IRGC, told CNN that a potential peace deal between Iran and the United States is currently being blocked because Donald Trump is refusing to release the$24 billion in sanctions that was previously agreed to. And Motion Razi says, we don't trust the United States with anything. And so the way they can show their trust is at least by releasing half of the$24 billion. And then we can have a discussion. If that doesn't happen, there's no discussion. And it was just interesting how the CNN reporter kind of framed the question as though we're waiting on a response from Iran because that's what the Trump regime's been saying.
2:45Ben Meiselas:And anyone who's been following the Midas Touch Network knows that Iran's been responding consistently about all of these things since early April. And they've been talking about their demands since really the war began, since Trump and Netanyahu invaded. And so whether you like their demands or not is besides the point. They've been pretty clear about what their framework was. And then Donald Trump reposted their framework when the ceasefire was initiated. It seems like ages ago at this point, but what, a month and a half, two months ago? Listen to what he has to say. Let's play this clip. Are the negotiations right now blocked or do you think that a memorandum of understanding can be reached quickly?
3:28In my opinion, the negotiations are at a deadlock and Trump must break this deadlock. They are waiting for an answer from Iran. Iran has openly stated that our assets have been frozen and you must release them. The Americans are not telling the truth in this regard. So the frozen assets are the big problem right now. This is a sign of trust building. If Trump takes the negotiation seriously,$24 billion is not much to America. If he wants to reach an agreement with Iran. This$24 billion is a test of trust that Iran wants to have with Trump. This is a test that America must pass and the path will be opened.
4:12This is our own money, not America's money.
4:15Ben Meiselas:More from the senior Iranian advisor to the Ayatollah motion raiser. And he says, look, we are prepared if this war continues to shut down the Bob El-Mandeep Strait in the Red Sea. We will absolutely go there. We are prepared to do it. We have the Strait of Hormuz under our control. And then we have the Houthis who are an Iranian proxy group in the Red Sea. They're ready to go. Not only are they ready to go, the Houthis previously were able to control the Red Sea. And then there's been a kind of a ceasefire since Donald Trump praised them in May 2025. They're so strong. They're so great. And they could be activated again very quickly.
4:59Ben Meiselas:Let's play this clip. It's traffic for Iran as well, though. It was a big bombing campaign. If the war continues and the naval blockade is not lifted, we will drag the war to the Indian Ocean, the Bab al-Mandeb Strait, the Red Sea and the Mediterranean. And we will give another dimension to the war by attacking these other American bases that we have been attacking so far. America will definitely suffer much more losses. America's losses will be very heavy. More from the senior Iranian official, Moshe Reza, and he tells CNN that, you know, Donald Trump also must make his decisions independent of Netanyahu.
5:43Ben Meiselas:Here's what Moshe Reza says. Here, play this clip. will be very heavy. Final question, what's your message to Donald Trump? Mr. Trump must make decisions independently of Israel. He must give what is the rights of the Iranian people and stop the blockade, release our frozen assets. And this can be a new horizon for the future of Iran and America. Therefore, Trump must put aside his personal interests and think about the interests of the American people. If Trump has the courage, many issues will be resolved in the future. Now, at the same time Moshen Reza was saying that, the Saudi energy minister at a meeting with Putin moments ago said the following about a Russia-Saudi partnership.
6:37Ben Meiselas:we will stay together until death do us part. I mean, do you see how Donald Trump is emboldening America's adversaries like Putin and how Donald Trump thinks he's so close with MBS and Saudi Arabia? But look at what they're saying right now. And then I'm going to show you what Trump just said moments ago. Here, play this clip. From COVID to all of these storms and winds and whims of the world. And even today, we're going through so many crises in many places, in different places, with different causes. Yet, we're weathering all of these storms with a diligent commitment to each other as partners that But although I am a Muslim and Russia is not Catholic, but still we do go by until death do us part.
7:43Thank you.
7:47Ben Meiselas:Now, as I'm sure you probably heard, the markets absolutely crashed today. Total tank. I think they're starting to realize how bad Donald Trump has screwed everything up. It seems that today that realization Friday was kind of firmly made. But Donald Trump, as he's getting into Wisconsin, you'll see him right here. And he's like, everything is great. Everything is amazing. The economy is doing fantastic right now. And our discussions with Iran, they're going great. And a reporter says, OK, can you tell us like how they're going? Watch Donald Trump's response right here. Let's play this clip. Let's see what the president has to say.
8:28Again, the job numbers were fantastic today. It's like nobody thought many times what they thought they'd be. We have factories and plants being built all over our country at a number that we've never had before ever in our history. And we're doing really well. The situation with Iran seems to be going quite well. thank you. When was the last time you had discussions?
8:55Ben Meiselas:Now, I'll tell you what the latest that was leaked to Barack Reved of Axios was. He says, Trump's envoys, Whitcoff and Kushner, traveled to the National Lab in Oak Ridge, Tennessee on Thursday for consultations with a new team of experts ahead of potential nuclear negotiations with Iran. And so you're now learning about the way nuclear dilution works. You're learning this for the very first time as Danny Citrinitz, who's a former Israeli intelligence officer in the Middle East who's been very critical of this Trump regime invasion with no plan. I mean, he explains how the nuclear issue, the nuclear file is an exceptionally complex issue when negotiating with Iranian counterparts who have spent decades developing deep technical and negotiating expertise on the nuclear file.
9:54Ben Meiselas:It's also worth noting that one of the factors contributing to the current crisis was the limited familiarity of some officials involved in previous negotiations with the full complexity of the Iranian nuclear challenge. So you need to bring in experts. But here we are June 5th for the first time. It's like, maybe we should talk to some experts. Goes on to say, at the same time, this should not be viewed as a one-time consultation. A dedicated team of nuclear regional intelligence and sanctions experts should be established to support the negotiations throughout the process, ensuring that policymakers have continuous access to the technical knowledge required for informed decision making on such sensitive and consequential issues.
10:40Ben Meiselas:Right. You're just realizing this now. And so it's not a smart thing to appoint people who are not experts to these positions like Bill Pulte, despite being announced earlier this week by Trump as his next acting director of national intelligence, the highest intelligence community position in the United States, he has not yet even been vetted, nor does he hold a security clearance, granting him access to highly classified information, which is critical for anyone serving in any senior intelligence community role, yet alone the highest senior intelligence intelligence community role. CNN was the first to report that right now.
11:22Ben Meiselas:Also, additional information coming out about the true scope and extent of the United States air base, the main command center, Al-Udeed, and how badly it was actually destroyed in the opening weeks of the war. This was covered up. Now it's being reported. Hat tip to Air and Space Force magazine for reporting it, multiple Iranian ballistic missiles struck the U.S. Air Force Combined Air Operations Center at Al-Udid Air Base Qatar in the early weeks of the Iran war, severely damaging the facility which ran America's air campaigns in the Middle East for over two decades and rendering it inoperable.
12:01Ben Meiselas:A senior U.S. official and other people informed about the attack told Air and Space Magazine, no personnel were injured. They then had to basically work out of Shaw Air Base in South Carolina, but this was fully covered up. Now, as I'm sure you know, two days ago, Donald Trump said how much he wants to meet with the Ayatollah. And so here's what Trump said. So you can see for yourself what Trump had to say about meeting with the Ayatollah. Play this clip. Know what we had to do. And we really want to meet with the new Ayatollah, the new Supreme Leader. I don't want to meet, but if I did meet, I'd be honored to meet him.
12:37I'd like to see if we make a deal. But if we make a deal, it's possible that I would meet him. I'd be okay with it. What happened here in the US? Why do you understand the deal? I haven't really heard too much about it. I didn't suggest it, but some people have suggested it. If it happened, it would be happening. I'd be respectful.
12:55Ben Meiselas:And I'll do a report on this later. But now Israel and the Mossad is accusing J.D. Vance of leaking a Mossad plan to use Kurdish forces against Iran directly to Turkey's president, Erdogan, who then lobbied Trump to kill it. Erdogan's red line, no Kurdish military force near Turkey's border. Trump then vetoed the operation, but Israel's Mossad is saying Vance was responsible for taking their classified information and giving it to Erdogan. You can see on various levels what Israel's Mossad is doing right now. And I think J.D. Vance is a terrible human being, but he was someone who at least initially was speaking out against never ending wars, ultimately to be complicit in all of these war crimes.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump getting rejected by the Ayatollah who is refusing to meet him as the war in Iran continues and Trump crashes the markets.
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