In short
Donald Trump’s return to Washington, D.C. after a New Jersey golf trip, and his responses to press questions about a U.S. strike on a Venezuelan fishing boat, plus his comments on political violence after the death of Charlie Kirk.
Guest backgrounds
No guests are mentioned in the transcript.
Key claims
The episode argues Trump avoids accountability, gives vague answers (“we’ll see what happens”) about potential strikes on Venezuela, and dismisses concerns about civilian deaths. It also claims Trump and allies frame political violence narratives selectively, while criticizing Charlie Kirk’s hateful statements and opposing celebration of his death.
Notable examples
Questions about an ISIS-style execution video and conflicting claims (cocaine vs. heading to Trinidad); Trump’s “300 million died from drugs” response; Trump/Charlie Kirk visa revocation discussion; Carrie Lake blaming “college brainwashing”; Greg Abbott posting a Texas Tech arrest photo; references to prior Trump remarks about Pelosi and other political violence.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Disastrous Return to D.C.
1:14 to 2:18
A breakdown of Trump’s press interactions after returning to D.C. from golf.
“Donald Trump just had a disastrous return to Washington, D.C.”
Trump's Comments on Violence and Investigation
2:18 to 4:31
Discussion on Trump's remarks about violence and his investigations into left-wing critics.
“Of course, there was no follow-up from the press there.”
Criticism of Charlie Kirk and Empathy
4:31 to 7:58
Analyzing Trump’s and Kirk’s perspectives on political violence and empathy.
“I don't think, though, we should be pretending that Charlie Kirk was a good guy.”
Carrie Lake's Rhetoric on Indoctrination
7:58 to 10:05
Reviewing Carrie Lake’s claims about college indoctrination and violence.
“It's just kind of this internet radicalization.”
Responses to Charlie Kirk's Assassination
10:05 to 14:01
Examining the reactions and implications following the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
“By the way, this event is, this is how they're using the Kennedy Center now.”
Discussion on Free Speech and Controversial Figures
14:01 to 15:26
Exploration of First Amendment rights and controversial comments made by figures like Charlie Kirk.
“that there is something called the First Amendment in the United States.”
Transcript
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1:14Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump just had a disastrous return to Washington, D.C. from New Jersey, where he was once again playing golf on the taxpayer dime while at the airport in New Jersey. Donald Trump took some questions by the press. He was asked questions like, can you give us some more information about the United States military strike on that fishing boat that killed 11 Venezuelans? You posted a video of it, ISIS-style execution video. You claim that that boat was transporting cocaine to the United States. It contradicted the story of Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, who said that the boat was heading to Trinidad.
1:52Ben Meiselas:In any event, how do we know there were not innocent people on the boat who was on the boat? Can you provide us more information? Was the strike on that boat illegal? Donald Trump responds and says, what's illegal is the fact that 300 million people in America died last year from drugs, he says. 300 million people died last year of drugs, he says. Here, play this clip.
2:21Of course,
2:42Ben Meiselas:there was no follow-up from the press there. Like, So you're saying 90 % of the country died of drugs and you're just making up numbers right now? And could you actually provide us with information about who was on that ship? If you say it was Tren de Aragua, they engage in human trafficking. How do we know that there weren't innocent people on that fishing boat? Next, Donald Trump is asked, are you going to potentially start a war with Venezuela? Should we expect strikes on the mainland of Venezuela? Donald Trump's response is, well, we'll see what happens. Here, play this clip. And just on that, do you think we will start with strikes on the mainland Venezuela?
3:23Oh, we'll see what happens. Look, Venezuela is sending us their gang members, their drug dealers and drugs. It's not acceptable.
3:32Ben Meiselas:Then Donald Trump says that he's already investigating a lot of people on the left. There are lots of people under investigation. He says regarding what comments relating to Charlie Kirk, people who were critical of Charlie Kirk. Here, play this clip. They're already under major investigation. A lot of the people that you would traditionally say are on the left. They're already under investigation? Already under investigation. Then Donald Trump says that, look, right-wing people never celebrate if something happens on their side. we don't celebrate. Let me be very clear. No one should be celebrating, in my opinion, the death of Charlie Kirk.
4:16Ben Meiselas:I think we need to condemn all forms of political violence. I also want to be very clear, or all forms of violence at all, it's unclear if the motive was even political. Let me be very clear about that. But we should condemn all forms of violence, period, full stop. I don't think, though, we should be pretending that Charlie Kirk was a good guy. I think that it's perfectly acceptable to criticize Charlie Kirk to show the hateful and horrible things that he previously said is anti-black, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-civil rights, anti -mostly everything other than white Protestant statements.
4:55Ben Meiselas:I think we should be able to be able to call that out, I think. But here's Donald Trump saying that. Let me just show that clip to you first. Let's play it. Have you asked to start revoking the visas of the foreigners who have celebrated Charlie Kirk's death? No, we haven't. We haven't. But we are looking at names. We don't like that. That's not right. We wouldn't celebrate if something happened on their side. And we don't. These are sick people. These are really deranged people. Now, I want to remind you as well, though, that Donald Trump is somebody who has celebrated the attempted murder and harm to other people before.
5:35Ben Meiselas:Like Donald Trump mocked Nancy Pelosi and her husband when her husband was almost assassinated by a radical extremist killer. Here, play this clip. We had no terror during my administration. The only terror we had was Nancy Pelosi, who's a crazed lunatic. She's a lunatic. She is a crazed lunatic. What the hell was going on with her husband? Let's not ask. Let's not ask. I'll withdraw that statement. By the way, she's got a wall around her house. Obviously, in that case, it didn't work very well, did it? It didn't work. Here's Donald Trump doing it again on the campaign trail. Play this clip. And we'll stand up to crazy Nancy Pelosi who ruined San Francisco.
6:31How's her husband doing, by the way? Anybody know?
6:38And she's against building a wall at our border, even though she has a wall around her house, which obviously didn't do a very good job.
6:49Ben Meiselas:And when there was a clear political assassination of Melissa Hortman, the former Speaker of the House in Minnesota, Donald Trump and MAGA and Republican leaders all spread lies and blamed the left for it and said that Governor Walz was responsible for this extremist right-wing person killing the Democrats. Oh, Walz did it. And Donald Trump wouldn't even call Governor Walz on the phone or the family members of Melissa Hortman or anybody to even show any type of empathy at all. But also, So note that one of Charlie Kirk's statements is we shouldn't show people who die empathy. We shouldn't show empathy to people.
7:34Ben Meiselas:Empathy isn't something that we should ever feel. That's what Charlie Kirk said. He hated empathy. That was literally like direct quotes. He hates empathy, he said. Here's Donald Trump saying that. Play this clip. The governor of Minnesota is so whacked out. I'm not calling. Why would I call him? I could call him and say, hi, how you doing? The guy doesn't have a clue. He's a mess. so I could be nice and cold but why waste time and then you see all of these right wing leaders Trump regime officials all out there again trying to push all of these narratives about the killer of Charlie Kirk the killer was a 22 year old white guy from Utah from a religious family that was involved in the community This was a guy who got deep into internet, like deep underground internet culture and got radicalized, whether that's right or left.
8:35Ben Meiselas:It's just kind of this internet radicalization. But now you have Kerry Lake and all these MAGA people are saying, look, the real problem right here is he went to college. And because he went to college, that radicalized him from this good Trump loving family. It was the college that did it to him. He went to one semester of Utah State during COVID virtually and then withdrew. And then he went to like a trade school for the past three years, not a university at all. But here's what Carrie Lake says. Play this clip. We've got to stop this, folks. We can't let this go on. This violence has got to stop.
9:21It's got to stop.
9:29And I'm not going to say our side is perfect. But damn it, this is coming from the other side.
9:42How does a 22-year-old become so filled with hate? Five years earlier, I was told he was a Trump supporter. And we sent our kids off to college and they brainwashed him. I am making a plea to mothers out there. Do not send your children into these indoctrination camps. Don't do it. Do not do it.
10:08Ben Meiselas:Then more hate spewed from Carrie Lake. By the way, this event is, this is how they're using the Kennedy Center now. Because, well, no one wants to show up at the Kennedy Center for other events. I've done reporting how, like, Kennedy Center attendance is down massively. But Carrie Lake is like, this is a battle between good and evil. and I wish we could compromise, but you cannot compromise with evil. But what they've been pushing at this whole thing is that the left is evil. The Democrats are evil. This is coming from the evil people and to literally make America within the enemy. I mean, that's why Trump's referred to the enemy from within.
10:49Ben Meiselas:He refers to that as Americans are a bigger threat is what Trump says than Russia or North Korea or China. But here, play this clip. I know we'd have a lot of time. There's so many good speakers tonight. This is a battle between good and evil. I wish we could compromise, but you can't compromise with evil. You can't compromise with evil.
11:17Ben Meiselas:This is more of Carrie Lake talking about brainwashing. Let's play this clip. At one moment, that 22-year-old who shot Charlie was a baby in his mother's arms. And by all accounts, those parents did a good job raising him until he was sent off to be brainwashed. We have lived through the most horrific brainwashing campaign in the history of mankind.
11:49And the very fact that we're all here means we have somehow survived it. We've survived it.
12:00But too many youngsters are not surviving it. And we have to stand up. Because some things are non-negotiable. Our children's minds and futures are non-negotiable.
12:40Ben Meiselas:posting Charlie Kirk quotes. So if you've said a Charlie Kirk quote because Charlie Kirk said hateful things and you literally just post his words, they're like, you're criticizing him. And there are people who were like, I condemn the killing of Charlie Kirk, but he's a bad guy. And they're like, she needs to leave the military. There's no way she could serve. There's no way this person can serve. I'm actually not going to show the photos of these people and their names because that would further what the right wing wants. So don't show the photos and don't show the names. And then Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas, posts this.
13:15Ben Meiselas:This is what happened to the person who was mocking Charlie Kirk's assassination at Texas Tech. And it's a young black woman being arrested by the local police there. And Greg Abbott goes F around and find out. Now, let me be very clear. I strongly condemn anybody. No one should mock Charlie Kirk's assassination. Nobody should be celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination. That sickens me. I don't agree with that. At the same time, I am very critical of Charlie Kirk's behavior. I'm very critical of the things he said and who he was. But I also still recognize that there is something called the First Amendment in the United States.
14:04Ben Meiselas:And as long as someone's not committing an assault, as someone is not creating like a riot, people have the right to say things, even if the things that they're saying, I strongly disagree with. And I mean, Charlie Kirk said a lot of things that I strongly disagreed with that were, he didn't like the Civil Rights Act. He didn't like Martin Luther King. He said that he doesn't trust black pilots. He said that after these school shootings, he said that it's okay. The Second Amendment, there's going to be consequences. It's part of life, school shootings. You got to live. He said so many hateful things when he was alive.
14:46Ben Meiselas:and again and you're posting photos of arresting people on school campus who may do things that i totally disagree with but the governor of the state is posting that i don't know more details about it but like you know as long as someone's not actually committing a crime with their thought crimes word crimes now finally just want to point out that stephen colbert won the emmy for best talk series of the year great work stephen colbert There's always a spot for you on the Midas Touch Network, Colbert. Anyway, hit subscribe. That was Trump's disastrous return back to Washington, D.C. Thanks for watching.
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