Trump has Disaster Meeting with Macron and Nearly Collapses

15 Jun 2026 · 22 min · 12 chapters

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The episode argues that Donald Trump’s trip to France for a meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron was disastrous and that Trump appeared lethargic, “lost,” and physically unwell. It claims Trump derailed serious diplomacy by focusing on the UFC event where he reportedly fell asleep, and by making incoherent remarks about Iran, Lebanon, Hezbollah, and the Strait of Hormuz. It also criticizes Trump’s Iran-related “memorandum of understanding” as not a real deal and contrasts it with Obama’s JCPOA, alleging Trump’s approach would give Iran hundreds of billions (including $300B+ and $20B mentioned by a guest) while still being “ahead.” Notable examples include Trump’s comments about minesweeping and “free sailing,” and Iran President Masoud Pezeshkian praising the MOU.

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Trump's Disastrous Meeting with Macron

2:27 to 3:36

Discussing the awkward moments from Trump's meeting with Macron.

“Donald Trump just had a disastrous meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron.”

Media Reactions and Observations

3:36 to 4:50

Analyzing how media portrayed Trump's lethargy during the meeting.

“And they said, well, it's impressive that he can even walk right now.”

Trump's Remarks on the Iran Deal

4:50 to 6:28

Examining Trump's comments about the Iran deal and its implications.

“of dollars seem to have already been given to Iran by your regime, Donald, and through funneling it through other Middle East countries.”

Trump's Confusing Statements

6:28 to 9:16

Highlighting the incoherence in Trump's statements during the meeting.

“And it's a very important matter for peace for the whole world.”

Trump's Confusing Statements

10:28 to 11:30

Highlighting the incoherence in Trump's statements during the meeting.

“America started with a rebellion against kings, against divine authority, and against the idea that government should belong to one religion or one group of people.”

Trump's Focus on UFC During Diplomatic Talks

11:38 to 14:00

Discussing Trump's fixation on UFC amidst serious discussions.

“I mean, we saw the footage of him sleeping.”

MAGA's Financial Strategy on Iran

14:00 to 15:00

Explore the financial rationale behind MAGA Republicans' support for Iran funding.

“And you have MAGA Republican Congress member Mast, right?”

Historical Context of U.S.-Iran Relations

15:00 to 16:10

Understand the historical tensions and diplomatic efforts between the U.S. and Iran.

“mechanisms to actually do a comprehensive non-nuclear deal called the JCPOA versus Trump saying that there's some framework and then just giving Iran all this money.”

The G7's Role in Global Politics

16:10 to 17:10

Discuss the G7's relevance and responses to global threats and challenges.

“destroyed their Navy, destroyed their Air Force, destroyed all those nuclear facilities I already spoke about, their steel manufacturing, their drone manufacturing, and so many other things.”

U.S. Domestic Reactions to Foreign Policy

17:10 to 18:30

Examine how domestic events reflect broader U.S. foreign policy issues.

“You see Italy, I believe, has since signaled that they might send a ship or two in there to help deal with some of the minesweeping.”
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Trump's Investment Controversies

18:30 to 19:30

Analyze the controversies surrounding Trump's stock trades while in office.

“I deem it necessary to thank my brothers, Dr.”

Symbolism in Trump's Administration

19:30 to 20:45

Investigate the symbolic actions taken by Trump and their implications.

“stocks and other securities in the first three months of the year, which is an unprecedented some, yeah, for a sitting president.”
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2:27Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump just had a disastrous meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron. Donald Trump traveled to France after falling asleep at the UFC event on Sunday. When Donald Trump met with Macron, Donald Trump looked lethargic. He looked sickly. He looked as if he didn't even know where he was. Watch as Donald Trump was shaking Macron's hand and again Trump looks completely lost. Let's play this clip.

2:59Ben Meiselas:Then when Donald Trump started to speak he started talking about the UFC event Tim McCrone, play this clip.

3:35Ben Meiselas:Now, state regime media, which calls itself Fox, tried to make sense of how sickly and lethargic Donald Trump has been looking, especially how he's been looking since he's arrived in France. And they said, well, it's impressive that he can even walk right now. So is that really where we are? Where state regime media is praising the ability of Donald Trump to simply be able to walk and be alive? Really? Here, play this clip. They're talking about something. My main observation so far is that this is the first time I've seen a world leader photo where the other leader, not Donald Trump, gave a thumbs up and the president just kept his hands to the sides.

4:16The fact that he could even walk, Peter, given all he's been through in the last 24 hours, I think really is quite remarkable. He's got to be beyond exhausted.

4:25Ben Meiselas:Now, going back to this meeting between Donald Trump and French President Emmanuel Donald Trump then says that the deal that was just entered into with Iran is so much better than Obama's deal because Obama's deal, Donald Trump said, billions of dollars were given to Iran and you can never do a deal like that. Hey, Donald, you may want to look at the deal that you just did where over$300 billion is potentially going to be given to Iran and tens of billions of dollars seem to have already been given to Iran by your regime, Donald, and through funneling it through other Middle East countries. Here, listen to what Trump says.

5:07Ben Meiselas:Let's play it. So we had two big moments when they terminated the JCPOA. That was the Obama deal, the Barack Hussein Obama deal. And when I terminated that, it was very important because it was a road to a nuclear weapon. It was a horrible deal for the United States. It was a deal where billions of dollars was given to Iran. It was a deal where 1.7 billion in cash was put on a Boeing 7, well, not a 7, 757, I guess, right? But it was put on a big, beautiful Boeing 757. They needed a Boeing 747, to be honest with you, because it was a lot of cash. 1.7 billion was taken out of the banks and given to Iran.

5:52And on top of that, tens of billions of dollars was spent. So they tried to bribe them to make a deal. That didn't work. It never works. And we've done a great job. And hopefully it's going to be a good relationship and we're going to get along. And if we don't, we go back to where we started. But I don't think that's going to be necessary.

6:17Ben Meiselas:Then you can see Donald Trump's just drowsy body language. Again, he's sitting very weird as well. As French President Emmanuel Macron is trying to address kind of very serious issues, Donald Trump's just completely out of it. Watch for yourself. Let's play it. First, it will fix the nuclear issue. And it's a very important matter for peace for the whole world. And it will reopen all of us. It will provide peace in Lebanon. and so we are ready to take our fair share of the burden and be part of the commitment of the international community in order to support this deal. And we will discuss about that together and with colleagues later on.

7:02But it's a very important step towards peace, but as well for global economy. We will have the occasion to discuss about the war in Ukraine in order to re-engage together and negotiate a good and solid peace and sustainable peace. President Zelensky would be with us as well tomorrow.

7:20Ben Meiselas:Then a reporter asks Donald Trump, so when will the text of this memorandum of understanding with Iran be out? So Trump didn't even do a deal with Iran. It's a memorandum of understanding to begin technical negotiations, to maybe do a deal sometime in the future. And then Donald Trump says, you know, look, It's a very strong document. My document is just so strong. What does that even mean? It's a strong document. Watch what he says right here. I may be involved, I may not. But J.D. was coming in for that specifically. Mr. President, when will the text of the MOU be released? I think pretty soon.

8:02I would say, I mean, I want it to be released because it's a very powerful document. It's not like the Obama document, which was just a terrible document. This is a very powerful document and I want it to be released. So probably pretty soon, I would say after sometime after Friday, because the strait opens completely. It's open now, but it opens completely. We'll have all the mines knocked out for the most part. We have a lot of lanes right now already. So I think I think sometime, I think sometime in the very near future.

8:38Ben Meiselas:Then the way Donald Trump describes Israel invading Lebanon and blowing up buildings in Beirut and in Tyre and in other areas. He says, we got to get that whole Lebanon thing, that Lebanon thing. We need to get it straight. And maybe I need to have a little talk with Hezbollah too. He truly has no clue what he's even saying at this point. And it's deeply disturbing to watch this. And I think this needs to be called out loudly that we literally have someone there who's a lunatic and who's there physically, but not there mentally at all. Let's play this clip. Effect. Mr.

9:25Macron, what do you expect from France? Well, I would love them to do that. I don't think we're going to need much help because we have an agreement where it's going to be open and it's toll free. We had a little argument on that. It's toll-free. So I don't think we're going to need much help. But I don't think it's a bad idea to have a ship or two up here from a few countries. You'd be a great country to do it because you never know what happens. But I think it's going to be open and I think it's going to be free sailing. We do want to see if we can straighten out the Lebanon thing because it just seems to just never end.

10:03And that's a mini version of what we were doing. But and it should not be tough. It should not be tough. So Hezbollah, we have to have a little talk with him. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. The Might As Such Podcast is brought to you by the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Let's talk about what's really at stake right now. America started with a rebellion against kings, against divine authority, and against the idea that government should belong to one religion or one group of people. That's why the founders created a secular constitution.

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11:37Ben Meiselas:Then Donald Trump, again, all he wants to talk about is this UFC fight where he was sleeping through most of it. I mean, we saw the footage of him sleeping. I've been playing it all morning. I played it yesterday. And Donald Trump's like, what do you think about the French fighter? What do you think about the French fighter? This is better than the World Cup to some? You think it's better than the world. What are you talking about? Let's play this clip.

12:28more important than the World Cup? To some people it might be. To some people it might be. You have a good team in the World Cup. Very good team, but you have good fighters too. And you're a great country and it's an honor to be with you. Thank you very much.

12:44Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump says, and everybody knows the Strait of Hormuz is already partially opened and on Friday it will be completely opened. Oh really? You know, we can track the ships that are coming in and out. You know, the Strait is relatively narrow, and these ships are pretty big. So we have a sense of ships going out, ships coming in, and there ain't a lot of them. Let's just play this clip. I'm very happy to say very signed. The deal's all signed. And the Strait is already partially opened. As you know, they're doing a little hunting for a couple of mines that they've already found. but it's essentially ships are starting to go out now on friday it'll be completely opened we got along very well with iran it's a different set of leaders as you know the first set is gone the second set is gone and we found the third set to be very smart strong very smart but we ended up making a deal i felt badly that we had to go back on the attack for two nights and I thought a third, but we made it before that happened.

13:54Ben Meiselas:Now, again, on state regime media, they were trying to normalize all of this, that which cannot be normalized at all. And you have MAGA Republican Congress member Mast, right? And this guy's like the neocon, we're going to invade, we're going to make Iran submit. That's what this guy's been saying, right? I mean, this guy wears IDF. I'm not making this up. He wears the IDF uniform in Congress. That's who this guy is. And so he goes, look, look, this is a great deal. Yeah, we're going to give him$20 billion. We can give him$300 billion. But in the end, we can give him hundreds of billions, but we're$500 billion ahead.

14:39Ben Meiselas:So we've actually won and they've paid us, even though we're going to give them hundreds of billions of dollars. That's where they are right now in MAGA world. You can listen to it for yourself of what they're saying after criticizing Obama for unfreezing$1.7 billion of Iran funds from decades and decades and decades earlier that was done through very controlled mechanisms to actually do a comprehensive non-nuclear deal called the JCPOA versus Trump saying that there's some framework and then just giving Iran all this money. watch for yourself what kind of confidence do you have that they'll do it yeah there's very little confidence based upon their history but what you see is as a change right now is their leaders and american leaders as you pointed out coming to the table to sit sit together historically for the first time in in so many years so that's a big deal you have support from of course the gulf countries uh negotiations by qatar and pakistan meeting in switzerland the presidents with the G7 to discuss it, even though they haven't had our backs on this, and so much of Europe also speaking about this.

15:48So there is wide, broad-based support to see this change in behavior take place. And you have the leaders of America, the leaders of Iran coming to say, okay, we can work this out. And let's remember, Iran doesn't have a choice in a lot of this because we destroyed so much. And I'll give you a quick math equation. Okay, maybe they do end up getting$20 billion, let's say. Let's say we're still$300 to$500 billion ahead, considering we destroyed their Navy, destroyed their Air Force, destroyed all those nuclear facilities I already spoke about, their steel manufacturing, their drone manufacturing, and so many other things.

16:22We destroyed all that and closed their ports. We're pretty far ahead.

16:26Ben Meiselas:And then you have Brian Mast over here talking about Trump's message at the G7 needs to be that Europe needs to be a lot more like America and less like Europe. What are you even talking about? Let's play this clip. That was when he was in the Oval Office with Friedrich Mertz, the German chancellor. The fact that he is now engaging with these leaders who basically turned and ran instead of helping him out. It's got to make for some interesting conversation, I would think. Yeah, undoubtedly. The G7 wants to remain relevant. They want to have a seat at the table, even though they didn't have a seat in helping to destroy the very aggressive Iran that had been attacking everybody.

17:04I think the president's probably going to tell them, be a little bit more American and less European. If somebody is fighting you and attacking you, have the stones to go out there and hit back instead of run away like what you were doing. And you see this a little bit. You see Italy, I believe, has since signaled that they might send a ship or two in there to help deal with some of the minesweeping. But I haven't seen much more since then. Congratulations from Starmer. I think that would be the extent of it.

17:28Ben Meiselas:Now, just to remind you of the types of things that were going on on the White House, I mean, you had the UFC fighters screaming that Michelle Obama is a man. Donald Trump hasn't called that out. I mean, that was the behavior that was being exhibited at this event, UFC fighters saying that. You had, you know, very strange, like, events where people, like, had their shirts off and they were like, I don't even know what they were doing. And then you had like fights break out to take a look at what was happening over here.

18:17Ben Meiselas:Meanwhile, you have Iran's president, Pazeshkian, putting out the following statement, The memorandum of understanding that has been drafted is the result of months of dialogue and persistent follow-ups in this regard. And if all of its provisions are properly implemented, it can be considered a document of pride for the country. I deem it necessary to thank my brothers, Dr. Galabaf, Aragchi, the members of the Sutra Council, and all those who have played a role in this path. That's what they're saying out of Iran. Meanwhile, in the United States, this is what's being leaked to the press. a senior U.S.

18:51Ben Meiselas:administration official called Oman, very duplicitous in negotiations with Iran, showing big disapproval with the longtime Gulf mediator, the foreign minister of Oman. We were very unhappy with the job the Omanis did. So we kind of threw them out of this process. So just, okay, you're attacking Oman right now. Is that the next place that the Trump regime is looking to go after. New reporting as well. You know how we reported last month that Trump did about 3 ,600 to 3 ,800 stock trades in the first quarter? Well, we're getting some numbers around that. CBS is reporting Trump's investment accounts traded between$212 million and$695 million in stocks and other securities in the first three months of the year, which is an unprecedented some, yeah, for a sitting president.

19:43Ben Meiselas:And when Donald Trump did this deal, one of the things he mentioned, or this memorandum, he mentioned the stock market, the stock market, the stock market. But at the end of the day, as I've been saying, Trump's strategy to everything is just painted blue, right? That's what I've said is like the big symbolism of the entire Trump regime, painted blue. When it comes to the reflecting pool, just painted blue on the bottom. But as I said on the sub stack that I just wrote the algae always comes back you can try to paint over the problem but when you don't address it just painting it blue is never the right solution a duck swims over algae at the bottom of the Lincoln Memorial reflecting pool which has been painted blue with the directive of Donald Trump ahead of his 250th anniversary this is what it now looks like paint it blue thanks for watching and subscribe let's get to 7 million subscribers want to stay plugged in become a subscriber to our sub stack at MidasPlus.com.

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