Trump Has Disaster Presser as He Sells Out Ukraine

10 Aug 2025 · 21 min · 9 chapters

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The episode argues that Donald Trump held a “disastrous” press event with Azerbaijan and Armenia leaders to announce a “fake peace deal” that effectively surrenders Nagorno-Karabakh (Artsakh) to Azerbaijan. It claims this rubber-stamps ethnic cleansing of about 150,000 indigenous Armenian Christians who fled after Azerbaijan’s 2020 invasion.

Key claims

Trump broke promises to the Armenian diaspora; he brags he prevented World War III; he says the U.S. won’t fund Ukraine and NATO will; and he suggests Zelensky will be forced to trade/surrender territory to Russia. Notable examples cited: Trump’s 2020 statements about “getting [Armenia] straight” and France 24’s description of Azerbaijan removing Armenian symbols/signage.

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Trump's Disastrous Press Conference

1:30 to 2:35

Analyzing Trump's weak performance during a press conference regarding Azerbaijan and Armenia.

“Yeah, Donald Trump was huffing and puffing during a disastrous press conference.”

Trump's Claims on World War III

2:35 to 3:56

Discussion on Trump's assertion that he prevented World War III, despite not bringing peace to Ukraine.

“So even though he did not bring peace to Ukraine in 24 hours, as he promised, the same way Donald Trump says he deserves the credit for this surrender of this critical land to Azerbaijan.”

Claims of Nobel Peace Prize

3:56 to 4:54

Trump's insistence on deserving a Nobel Peace Prize amidst ongoing conflicts.

“The Norwegian Nobel Committee will make their announcement as it relates to this year's Nobel Peace Prize on October the 10th, Friday, October the 10th.”

Zelensky's Territory Negotiations

4:54 to 6:04

Exploration of Trump's comments about Zelensky possibly giving up territory to Russia.

“We were spending hundreds of billions of dollars.”

Zelensky's Territory Negotiations

7:55 to 9:07

Exploration of Trump's comments about Zelensky possibly giving up territory to Russia.

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Embarrassing Trump Endorsements

9:59 to 12:25

Discussion on leaders endorsing Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize despite his past failures.

“And then Donald Trump basically makes these leaders from Azerbaijan and Armenia say that Donald Trump should get a Nobel Peace Prize.”

Ethnic Cleansing in Nagorno-Karabakh

12:25 to 14:01

Analyzing the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh and the ethnic cleansing of Armenians.

“Now, here's what Donald Trump said on October 25th, 2020, about 15 days earlier is when Azerbaijan, or right around this period, launched a full-fledged assault while Trump was in office of this territory.”

Azerbaijan's Actions and the Armenian Response

14:01 to 18:21

Discussion on Azerbaijan's military actions and Armenia's response to ethnic erasure.

“if you know what you're doing, it's like that.”

Closing Remarks and Call to Action

18:44 to 19:14

Final thoughts and encouragement to subscribe and engage with content.

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1:30Ben Meiselas:Yeah, Donald Trump was huffing and puffing during a disastrous press conference. He looked sickly and weak as he was there with the leaders of Azerbaijan and Armenia announcing a fake peace deal, which was actually a surrender by Armenia of the territory known as Nagorno -Karabakh, which Azerbaijan invaded in 2020 during Donald Trump's first term. Donald Trump pledged to the Armenian community, to the diaspora here in the United States, that he would stand with them and fight with them to make sure that the land, the Nagorno-Karabakh land, home to 150 ,000 indigenous Armenian Christians who had to flee would be returned to those indigenous Armenian Christians.

2:19Ben Meiselas:But Donald Trump basically presiding over the surrender right there, not providing the support. Another promise broken, a fake peace deal being announced, which was really a victory for Azerbaijan. Now, during this disastrous press conference, Donald Trump also bragged how he is responsible, he says, for stopping World War III. So even though he did not bring peace to Ukraine in 24 hours, as he promised, the same way Donald Trump says he deserves the credit for this surrender of this critical land to Azerbaijan. Donald Trump's also saying, give me the credit for what's taking place in Ukraine now, because there's no World War III.

3:02Ben Meiselas:There would have been without me. Just listen to how pathetic this is. Here, play this clip. Could have escalated in something much better. That could have been a world war. I think if we didn't come, Ukraine, Russia would have ended up being a world war. and i stopped that that stopped now the only question is when is it going to be settled and it could be very soon but when is it going to be but that would have been a world war if i didn't come along with a very talented group of people sitting largely right here but there are others not in the room that are very talented uh i think russia ukraine would have had a very very high degree i think even probably would have ended up being in a world war and then donald Trump talks about wanting a Nobel Peace Prize.

3:47Ben Meiselas:He says that because he's of a particular persuasion, really don't know what that means, that he will not get a Nobel Peace Prize. But he's like, look at all the things I've done. I deserve a Nobel Peace Prize. Here, play this clip. The Norwegian Nobel Committee will make their announcement as it relates to this year's Nobel Peace Prize on October the 10th, Friday, October the 10th. Is that date circled on your calendar, Mr. President? I can't say. I mean, a lot of people say, you know, no matter what I did, because, you know, I'm of a certain persuasion, no matter what I do, they won't give it.

4:23And I'm not politicking for it. I have a lot of people that are. I know. I mean, I read the same things as you do. But it would be a great honor, certainly. But I would never politic. I'm not doing it for that. I'm doing it because of I really, number one, I want to save lives. That's why I'm involved so much with Ukraine and Russia. It's saving lives of Russians and Ukrainians. It's not American lives now.

4:48Ben Meiselas:Then Donald Trump says that America is not giving Ukraine any money anymore. NATO is the one paying for it. And he says that is a good thing. Here, play this clip. People say, why are you bothering? We're not losing people. We were spending hundreds of billions of dollars. Now we're spending nothing. We're spending no money. I guess we're making money because, you know, we're great. We have the best military equipment in the world. We're selling it to NATO. But you're losing thousands of people a week. Russians and Ukrainians mostly, mostly soldiers. But, you know, missiles are lobbed into cities and towns, Kiev, lots of places.

5:29You've been reading the same stories that I've been reading. And we've got to get it solved.

5:35Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is asked if Zelensky is going to be forced to give up territory to Russia based upon a purported deal that Trump is negotiating with Putin. And Donald Trump basically says yes. Here play this clip. Now, President Zelensky has to get all of his everything he needs because he's going to have to get ready to sign something. And I think he is working hard to get that done. Was Zelensky actually a chair for our answer? Well, you're looking at territory that's been fought over for three and a half years with, you know, a lot of Russians have died. A lot of Ukrainians have died. So we're looking at that, but we're actually looking to get some back and some swapping.

6:22It's complicated. It's actually nothing easy. It's very complicated, but we're going to get some back. We're going to get some some switched. There'll be some swapping of territories to the betterment of both. But we'll be talking about that either later or tomorrow or whatever.

6:41Ben Meiselas:Now, I think it's important to note the context that I gave you at the beginning of this video as well, that this deal with the leader of Azerbaijan and Armenia is basically saying that the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, the Republic of Artsakh, no longer exists. It belongs to Azerbaijan. The ethnic cleansing of the ethnic Armenians, 150 ,000, is basically being rubber stamped here by Donald Trump. He's showing absolute weakness, and he's being asked questions here. Will Zelensky be forced to give up territory? And Donald Trump, you heard there basically saying, yeah, there's going to be some give and takes and swaps.

7:25Ben Meiselas:That's what Donald Trump wants to see Zelensky do, tap out. And again, what Donald Trump could have done with Armenia is reached out and help them or not allowed a deal like that to happen where Azerbaijan is given the approval to take over that land. Donald Trump then repeatedly can't hear or understand a question about if he'll visit Azerbaijan? Here, play this clip.

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10:11I don't want to go into the history of some very strange decisions of the Nobel Peace Committee to award the prize for someone who didn't do anything at all. But President Trump in six months did miracle. So I I think that my colleague will support it and judging by the reaction of the audience, I think as soon as we come back, we will agree to issue a joint letter and hopefully and I also join when president is awarded. We hope that he will invite us to the ceremony. You certainly will be. Thank you very much. Do we have draft to sign now?

10:54Ben Meiselas:We'll see what happens. And here that is again. I mean, this is so utterly embarrassing. Here, play this clip. I think President Trump deserved to have a Nobel Peace Prize. And we will defend that and we will promote for that. And that's obvious. So, and today's event, I think, is a very bright expression of that. And hopefully you will invite us. Front row, you'll be front row. Yeah? Yeah. We are in favor. Thank you. Thank you. Can I have a suggestion? Yes. So maybe we agree with Prime Minister Pashinyan to send a joint appeal to Nobel Committee to award President Trump with a Nobel Peace Prize because.

11:58Ben Meiselas:Now, the executive director of the Armenian National Committee of America, the ANCA, says the following. The same Donald Trump who failed to stop Azerbaijan's 2020 attack on Nagorno-Karabakh is now rewarding this very aggression, compromising Armenia's security and sovereignty while aiding and abetting Azerbaijan's normalization and formalization of its ethnic cleansing, its genocide of more than 150 ,000 indigenous Armenian Christians. Now, here's what Donald Trump said on October 25th, 2020, about 15 days earlier is when Azerbaijan, or right around this period, launched a full-fledged assault while Trump was in office of this territory.

12:46Ben Meiselas:I mean, the war has been going on since 1994 or so, but it accelerated, of course, now when Donald Trump was in office then and now the full surrender, basically. But here's what Donald Trump said on November 25th, 2020. Let's play it.

13:29because I went through various stops, but in Ohio, we had a tremendous group of Armenians with the flag and the whole thing, the spirit, and the problems that they have, and the death, and the fighting, and everything else. We'll get that straight. That's going to be, I call that an easy one, okay? We'll get that. Go back and tell your people. Go back and tell your people, all right? We'll get that straight down. Armenia. Why not? It's easy. If you know what you're doing, if you know what you're doing, it's like that. If you know what you're doing, it's easy.

14:04Ben Meiselas:And just a reminder of kind of what's taking place in this region and the surrender that just took place in the Oval Office. Here's how France 24 describes what took place and how Azerbaijan basically removed all of the symbols and all of the signage showing the ethnic Armenian presence in this area, in the Republic of Artsakh, in the region. Here, play this clip. It was one year ago, an exodus of 120 ,000 Armenians from Nagorno-Karabakh, forced to flee in the face of Azerbaijan's military offensive in the region. A territory disputed by the two nations since the fall of the Soviet Union. Karabakh's flag trampled by the victors.

14:56Armenia denounces ethnic and cultural erasure. Journalists are not allowed to enter the enclave. But by analyzing social media and satellite images, we can see the changes made by Azerbaijan. Among the first elements found, these photos proudly posted by the new occupants' out-town entrances. On these blue signs, the names are now written in Azerbaijani. The Armenian name now gone. Stepanakirk, the capital, has now become Kankendi. This 50-meter-high cross has been the city's emblem, both a Christian symbol meaningful to Armenians and a telecommunications tower. We locate it in May 2022 in these satellite images.

15:50Then, in September 2023, these images posted on social media show the cross broken into two pieces. Across the region, Azerbaijan, a Muslim-majority nation, has been removing Christian iconography.

16:28Ben Meiselas:not peace. Accepting the occupation of Armenia is not peace. Peace at gunpoint is not peace. The peace agreement is, again, likely to upset Armenian Americans because it doesn't address the ethnic cleansing. It doesn't address the genocide. It doesn't address everything that Azerbaijan did. Real peace must be predicated on justice and accountability for Azerbaijan's ongoing human rights violations. These issues shouldn't be left on the back burner. Alex Skalitsky, program director of the Armenian National Committee of America Advocacy, says a deal that rewards Azerbaijan's aggression, undermines Armenia's sovereignty, and denies justice to Artsakh's Armenians will only make it harder to resolve these critical human rights issues down the line.

17:12Ben Meiselas:Putting a gun to the head at an at-risk Christian nation, the first Christian nation, a landlocked, blockaded, genocide-surviving state, and calling it peace is as cruel as it is cowardly. Armenia is a victim of a century plus of genocide, and this deal aids and abets her enemies. Armenians in Armenia and worldwide reject the fake peace deal being forced on Armenia at the point of a gun. Another, again, not a peace deal, and I think we need to view this also into the context of Donald Trump's discussions here with Putin, because this is exactly what Trump wants Zelensky to do as well. Give up, give all the territories to Putin, say goodbye to Ukraine, and the United States just kind of sits back and lets the aggressors do this versus the United States doing what it used to do in the world.

18:08Ben Meiselas:I hope that gives you a broader geopolitical perspective also of what's happening there. And shout out, by the way, to all of my Armenian friends here in California, across this country and across the world. Thanks for watching. hit subscribe and let's get to 6 million subscribers. Can't get enough Midas? Check out the Midas Plus sub stack for ad-free articles, reports, podcasts, daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski, and more. Sign up for free now at MidasPlus.com.

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