Trump in World of Hell as He Can’t Escape His Dark Past!!!

11 Feb 2026 · 23 min · 7 chapters

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Podcast Details

  • Title: The MeidasTouch Podcast
  • Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
  • Episode Title: Trump in World of Hell as He Can’t Escape His Dark Past!!!
  • Release Frequency: New episodes every Tuesday and Friday, with daily breaking news updates.
  • Podcast Focus: A blend of comedy, news coverage, and discussions around supporting democracy.

Episode Overview In this episode, Ben Meiselas discusses the increasing pressures on Donald Trump as he faces revelations from the Epstein files. The episode's tone is critical of Trump, framing him as unable to escape his past and currently in a metaphorical "death spiral."

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Epstein Files Revelations:
  2. Trump’s name appears extensively in the Epstein files, with details about his connections and communications being revealed.
  3. Reference made to documents where Trump's lawyers discuss Epstein's access to Mar-a-Lago, countering claims of a ban on him.
  1. Failed Indictments:
  2. Trump attempted to indict several Democratic lawmakers for a video warning against unlawful orders but faced rejection by a grand jury.
  3. Commentary on the implications of such actions and Trump's perceived misuse of power.
  1. Trump's Economic Claims:
  2. Ben criticizes Trump's optimistic yet unsubstantiated claims about the economy and job growth.
  3. Highlighted the stark contrast between Trump’s statements and the actual job market, which is described as in a recession.
  1. Interviews and Media:
  2. Discussion around Trump's interview with Larry Kudlow, where he made overly ambitious claims about the economy, likened to "fraud" by the hosts.
  1. Canadian Relations:
  2. The episode touches on Trump's threats to Canada regarding the Gordie Howe Bridge, emphasizing the economic ties and cooperation between the two nations.
  3. Criticism of Trump’s tactics as detrimental to American workers and the economy.
  1. Calls to Action:
  2. The hosts encourage listeners to remain vigilant and active in opposing what they term "rising tyranny."
  3. Emphasis on the importance of courage in the face of intimidation by political figures.

Notable Quotes

  • "Donald Trump is drowning in the horrible revelations from the Epstein files."
  • "Courage is also contagious."
  • "Do not give up the ship; these Epstein class predators are flailing and panicking."

Conclusion The episode serves as a critical examination of Trump's current predicament in light of newly disclosed information from the Epstein files and his political maneuvers. The Meiselas brothers combine their signature humor with pointed commentary, encouraging listeners to engage actively in the political discourse surrounding Trump's actions and their implications for democracy.

Additional Information

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  • Various affiliated shows that cover legal, political, and social themes.

This episode underscores the ongoing political battles and the importance of accountability and transparency in governance.

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Chapters

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Trump's Connections to Epstein Unveiled

0:56 to 3:00

Explore the implications of Trump's numerous connections to Epstein.

“And what they're finding out is from the redacted 3 million files that have unlawfully been redacted and produced thus far, your name appears 38 ,000 times in over 5 ,000 documents.”

Failed Indictments and Political Maneuvers

3:00 to 5:18

Discuss the attempts to indict lawmakers and their implications.

“But Donald Trump had Jeanine Pirro and the top federal prosecutor in D.C., the one from Fox.”

The Epstein Class and Political Power

5:18 to 8:06

Analyze the influence of the Epstein class on political actions.

“to Epstein's island, but he took the kids to a convicted child sex trafficker, someone who was using that island to sex traffic.”

Trump's Economic Claims and Fabrications

8:06 to 11:27

Examine Trump's exaggerated claims about the economy and jobs.

“And Magamike wanted to block it for a full year.”

Political Ramifications of the Gordie Howe Bridge

11:27 to 14:03

Understand the implications of Trump's threats regarding the Gordie Howe Bridge.

“All right, coming up, more of my interview with President Trump.”

Trump's Threats and the Gordie Howe Bridge

14:03 to 18:00

Explore Trump's controversial threats regarding the Gordie Howe Bridge and Canadian relations.

“Meanwhile, he has his propagandist, Caroline Levitt, saying, we're moving on from the Epstein files.”

Bernie Sanders on the Economy

18:01 to 19:16

Delve into Bernie Sanders' critical perspective on the current economy and its impact on everyday Americans.

“And we always laugh when we see this Donald Trump going, China's going to stop ice hockey.”
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1:25Ben Meiselas:to the Epstein files. And what they're finding out is from the redacted 3 million files that have unlawfully been redacted and produced thus far, your name appears 38 ,000 times in over 5 ,000 documents. In the unredacted files that the Democrats and some Republicans got to see at the Department of Justice, we now know from Democratic Congress member Jamie Raskin, the member of the Judiciary Committee, that your name appears over 1 million times in the documents that are still not being disclosed. 1 million references. And we've seen already these references are in sick and grotesque ways. And I'll just show you right here what Democratic Congress member Dan Goldman is posting.

2:15Ben Meiselas:And it is a 2009 email from Trump's lawyers to Epstein's lawyers and it is having some sort of discussion. And we believe that this is the discussion where Donald Trump's lawyers admit that Epstein was never actually a member of Mar-a-Lago, so he couldn't have been banned. He was always a guest and he was always going there. So there was never a ban of Epstein. Why is this document being redacted? Why are documents and names of powerful co-conspirators being redacted by Trump's DOJ. All of the secrets are coming out and Donald, you are not going to be able to distract from it, but you can try, right?

2:59Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump had Jeanine Pirro, Donald Trump's United States attorney from the DC district, try to indict six democratic lawmakers, There's two senators and four Congress members in connection with the video that they made that Senator Slotkin from Michigan put together where these where she's a former CIA analyst and other veterans, a United States military, put a message together to our troops that you are not allowed to follow unlawful orders. Right. That's a restatement of the law. But Donald Trump had Jeanine Pirro and the top federal prosecutor in D.C., the one from Fox. Now, the top federal prosecutor in D.C.

3:43Ben Meiselas:tried to indict those six Democratic lawmakers, and the grand jury rejected the indictment. Yet again, another indictment rejected that the Trump regime is trying to force through. They say you can indict a ham sandwich, but Trump keeps on getting rejected. And just to remind you, it's Senators Kelly and Senator Slotkin. And then there's Democratic Congress members Crow, who's a former Army Ranger. Maggie Goodlender, a former Navy reservist, Chris Houlihan, a former Air Force officer, and Chris Deluzio from Pennsylvania, a Navy veteran. And we're hearing right now from some of them after Trump's failed attempt at indicting them for seditious conspiracy.

4:26Ben Meiselas:That's how big of a fascist Donald Trump is. While Donald Trump is out there covering up for the Epstein class, for which he's basically the leader of the Epstein class, right? As Howard Lutkin was testifying before the United States Senate that he indeed lied when he said that he had no further communications with Epstein after 2005, when he took one visit to Epstein, who was his neighbor's townhouse and was so disgusted after seeing the massage table, he knew what a bad guy Epstein was. But in 2012, Lutnik admitted before the United States Senate, he brought his children to the island where child sex trafficking takes place.

5:06Ben Meiselas:And then he brought the children of his friends to that island as well. But according to Lutnick, he didn't see anything untoward, nothing negative to see. He doesn't even understand why it's a big deal that he brought children and that he went to Epstein's island, but he took the kids to a convicted child sex trafficker, someone who was using that island to sex traffic. Although he wasn't convicted at the time of that, he was convicted of, at that time, child prostitution. Yeah, maybe you don't go to that island. Maybe that affiliation is disqualifying for you, Lutnik, to hold that position. So utterly disgusting.

5:41Ben Meiselas:Senator Mark Kelly posts the following regarding the attempt to indict him. This is an outrageous abuse of power by Donald Trump and his lackeys. It wasn't enough for Pete Hegseth to censure me and threaten to demote me. Now it appears they tried to have me charged with a crime all because of something I said that they didn't like. That's not the way things work in America. Donald Trump wants every American to be too scared to speak out against him. The most patriotic thing any of us can do is not back down. And that's what we do here at the Midas Touch Network. We never back down. Now, here is former Army Ranger, Democratic Congress member Jason Crow.

6:23Ben Meiselas:Here's what he had to say about learning that he was the subject of an attempted indictment that failed. He said, Donald Trump's DOJ just tried and failed to indict me in front of a grand jury. We will continue to fight back against their rising tyranny. Don't give up the ship. That's a great advice for all of us out there. Do not give up the ship. These Epstein class predators, these Trump regime sycophants, these sick human beings are flailing and they're panicking and they're going to get more desperate. That's why we got to keep it together and stay strong. Watch what Democratic Congress member Jason Crow had to say.

7:05Ben Meiselas:Here play this clip.

7:07Donald Trump:I just found out that Donald Trump's DOJ tried and failed to indict me before a grand jury. They were trying to send a message that if you oppose them, if you step out of line, that they will crush their political enemies. But they failed and they will always fail. I went to war three times to this country as a paratrooper and an army ranger. I will never back down for my duty. But this isn't about me because they were trying to send a larger message that if Americans get out of line, if they dare oppose them, if they dare speak up and exercise their constitutional rights, that they will be crushed.

7:44Donald Trump:But they're wrong. They think that fear is contagious. But here's the bigger lesson. Courage is also contagious. The American people are stepping up. They are rising up. They are organizing and mobilizing against this rising tyranny. We will continue to push back. The tide is turning and accountability is coming.

8:06Ben Meiselas:Now, while all of this is going on, we know that the jobs report is just absolutely horrific. Massive downward revisions, massive job losses, a major job recession that we're in right now as Donald Trump's tariffs against the world have been an utter disaster, destroying manufacturing, destroying the lives of so many Americans. It's also notable, and I'll do another video on this in about 90 minutes, that in the House of Representatives, MAGA Mike Johnson got voted down 217 to 14 when he tried to put forward a rule on future pieces of legislation and future resolutions where he was going to try to ban the House of Representatives from voting on blocking Donald Trump's tariffs against the world.

9:01Ben Meiselas:And Magamike wanted to block it for a full year. And he wanted to slip that into something called a rule to prohibit Congress from actually utilizing its Article One powers, which is to regulate tariffs. And Magamike wanted to prevent that. Well, that got voted down. And what we expect to happen today now and over the next coming days is I think we'll see the House pass resolutions blocking Donald Trump's tariffs against Canada and Mexico and the rest of the world. So it's been a day where Donald Trump has been loss after loss after loss. I mean, when you lose Alex Jones, you've lost your MAGA plot.

9:44Ben Meiselas:Alex Jones posted, Howard Lutnick must resign for lying about his connections to Epstein or the Trump administration must fire him now. They ain't going to do that though, Alex Jones, because the Epstein class protects the Epstein class. And that's what this is all about, the Epstein class. Now, Donald Trump gave an interview with Larry Kudlow on state regime media, which calls itself Fox. And Donald Trump started just making up all of these numbers. Now, at a time when you know that we're in a jobs recession and things are going very bad, Donald Trump says that he sees the economy growing 15%, 20%.

10:27Ben Meiselas:And he just starts making up all these numbers. I save 25 ,000 lives every time I kill people on fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela. 25 ,000 lives a ship. Just making up fake numbers. $18 trillion I've brought into the United States. Even Larry Kudlow was like, well, this was my interview with Donald Trump. I don't really understand what his numbers are, but you sure got to appreciate his optimism. We don't have to appreciate his optimism. It's not optimism. it's called fraud and kudla is part of this epstein class as well it's a class it's a group of people it's people who think that's what the class means it's people who think they're above the law they think that they're above it all that's what i mean by that and you know what enough is enough stop anyone who's protecting donald trump i'm giving you my first amendment opinion speech okay that's what this all is if you're protecting donald trump and you're coddling him like that, I believe in my opinion, you're part of the Epstein class.

11:29Ben Meiselas:That's why this is an opinion. Here's what Kudlow says. Here, play this clip.

11:33Donald Trump:All right, coming up, more of my interview with President Trump. You have to love his optimism. You may not agree with every number, but you have to love his optimism. Anyway, I'm Kudlow. We'll be back with President Trump in just a moment.

11:45Ben Meiselas:Now, here's Donald Trump as part of that interview saying that every boat we kill off the, every time we kill these people on fishing boats, by the way, there's no evidence that these people have like fentanyl or anything like that. Like we're killing like random people. Donald Trump's like, I save all these lives. Here, play this clip.

12:05Donald Trump:You know, by knocking out those boats, we have dropped drugs, fentanyl about 33%. And now we're going to start on land. We had to do the boats first because they would go immediately to the boats. If you hit them on land, they go to the boats. So we do the boats first. Now there are no boats. Now we're going to hit them on land. We're going to hit them very hard on land. We've knocked down drugs. Every one of those boats, it's nasty, but every one of those boats that shot down in the seas, you've been watching it, we saved 25 ,000 American lives. So we've done a great job.

12:37Ben Meiselas:And he goes, we're going to grow the economy 15%, maybe even bigger. Play this clip.

12:42Donald Trump:If he does the job that he's capable, we can grow at 15%. I think more than that. Well, 15 is a big numbers here. But Larry, you can do it. The problem is every time we used to grow at 15 percent. And, you know, when we were starting as a country, we were growing. Yes. Because we had spirit and we had the right incentives. Today, we have a lot of socialism. I love it when you talk about it. We have a lot of bad things. Yes. But there's no look. We did 5.4 with a shutdown.

13:15Ben Meiselas:Think of it. And then he's like, every time we lower interest rates, every point is$600 billion. No, I didn't play this clip.

13:23Donald Trump:Can I just raise one point? And all he has to do is lower interest rates. Interest rates should be lower. You know, every point is$600 billion. Think of that. $600 billion. All he has to do, if we went down two points, we don't have a deficit anymore. And that's without cutting. And it's just a paper charge. When you think about it, it's a paper charge.

13:45Ben Meiselas:We should be the lowest interest rate in the world And then he talks about his ballroom, my ballroom, my ballroom. Here, play this clip.

13:53Donald Trump:I'm building something right now in the White House, one of the greatest ballrooms so desperately needed anywhere in the world for a fraction of what this guy's doing.

14:03Ben Meiselas:Meanwhile, he has his propagandist, Caroline Levitt, saying, we're moving on from the Epstein files. We're not talking about that anymore. We're moving beyond that. We're not moving beyond that, Caroline. line, we just getting started, okay? Here, play this clip of Caroline Levin.

14:20Donald Trump:And that remains true. And this call, if it did happen, corroborates exactly what President Trump has said from the beginning. And I'm sure many of you, when you read that alleged FBI report, probably thought to yourself, wow, this really cracks our narrative that we've been trying to push about this president for many years. So we're moving on from that.

14:39Ben Meiselas:Now, I want to leave you with this, as Donald Trump, as you know, has threatened Canada to shut down the Gordie Howe Bridge, which was fully funded by Canada, and it is jointly owned by Canada and Michigan. It's a bridge that goes from Ontario to Detroit to Michigan. And the other bridge, the Ambassador Bridge, is privately owned. It's owned by an oligarch family that tries to help Donald Trump. and it's weird, right? There's a private bridge is the main way you get from Detroit to Ontario. It's kind of crazy. But it is owned by the Moron family, the Moron family, called the Moron family. So Trump's been threatening Canada and it's like Canada paid for the bridge.

15:24Ben Meiselas:There was a deal that was made for Canada to do that. It employed American jobs and this will be good for America's economy. So here is how Prime Minister Carney described his call after Donald Trump's threats. Watch how Carney fact checks and play this clip. What's happening with the Detroit Parche?

15:44Donald Trump:Pardon me. So the first thing to say is there's a big game today. And the president and I discussed the Canada-U.S. game. And of course, we're all behind our team. Secondly, we discussed a number of issues, international issues. Thirdly, we discussed the bridge, explained that Canada was paid for the construction of the bridge, over$4 billion, that the ownership is shared between the state of Michigan and the government of Canada, and that in the construction of the bridge, obviously there's Canadian steel, Canadian workers, but also US steel, US workers that are involved. This is a great example of cooperation between our countries.

16:29Donald Trump:Look forward to it opening. And And what is particularly important, of course, is the commerce and the tourism and the voyages of Canadians and Americans across that bridge. So the conversation turned to a series of issues that we will raise and we're going to follow up on. I'm not going to go into detail on those issues. These would be specific issues in parallel to the Kuzma negotiations. uh final point is uh uh the president asked uh appropriately that his ambassador who's from michigan of course play a role in uh in uh smoothing the conversation even around the

17:07Ben Meiselas:bridge so it was a positive conversation uh it's a big game today uh and here is what uh

17:14Donald Trump:might as canada leader charlie angus said play you know ben a year ago when i was on cnn uh and they said, well, we know that you don't like Donald Trump. And I said, well, it's not that. It's like having to negotiate with Al Capone in the syphilitic period. Wow, that sure has come true. I mean, you look at the idiot rant that we've just seen. This is moron blather on high octane. So shut the Gordie Howe Bridge, Donald. Go ahead. Every day, 1 ,500 nurses from Canada go to help keep Detroit's healthcare system going. I personally think those nurses should be working in Canada. So shut the bridge.

17:55Donald Trump:150 ,000 jobs in the Detroit area because of the bridge. Okay, fine. We'll take those jobs back on our side. $700 billion in trade on that bridge. So you're going to what? Shake us down like you're some like the loser real estate guy from Queens and you're going to threaten to burn our laundromat to the ground if we don't pay up 700 billion dollars think of that so yeah canada fronted the money um after serious negotiations on both sides of the border this bridge connects the economies of ohio uh michigan the auto sectors in kentucky so you want to shut that bridge unless we pay you off well explain it to the people of Michigan.

18:44Donald Trump:Donald, go ahead. It's so ridiculous. And we always laugh when we see this Donald Trump going, China's going to stop ice hockey. If you're a Canadian and you have to call it ice hockey, you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

18:56Ben Meiselas:I'll leave you with this. Bernie Sanders. Here's his take on the economy.

19:00Donald Trump:In terms of, I got to tell you, though, I've seen that tape you just rolled. You wonder whether Trump is completely crazy and delusional or just a pathological liar. But the idea that anybody would believe that this is a great economy when 60 % of our people are living paycheck to paycheck, when the cost of the health care is going up, people can't afford housing, people can't afford their basic groceries, child care system is dysfunctional, people can't afford to go to college. And if this is the greatest economy in the history of the world,

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump unable to escape his dark past as he drowns in the horrible revelations from the Epstein files and as his term is in a total death spiral.

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