Trump Loses It and Backs Down in Minnesota

26 Jan 2026 · 23 min · 6 chapters

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Summary of The MeidasTouch Podcast - Episode: "Trump Loses It and Backs Down in Minnesota"

Podcast Information

  • Title: The MeidasTouch Podcast
  • Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
  • Episode Title: Trump Loses It and Backs Down in Minnesota
  • Release Schedule: New episodes every Tuesday and Friday; breaking news updates daily.

Episode Overview In this episode, Ben Meiselas discusses Donald Trump's recent behavior in response to public pressure regarding the actions of Border Patrol and ICE forces in Minnesota. The conversation revolves around Trump's apparent retreat from aggressive rhetoric and policies in light of protests and public outcry.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Trump's Backtracking
  2. Public Pressure: The episode highlights how increasing public protests in Minnesota have forced Trump to reconsider his stance.
  3. Communication with Governor Walz: Trump claimed to have had a "respectful conversation" with Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, contrasting his earlier aggressive remarks.
  1. Crime and Law Enforcement Claims
  2. Murder of Alex Jeffrey Preti: The episode centers on the recent murder of Alex Preti by law enforcement, with Ben criticizing the portrayal of Preti and the actions of ICE and Border Patrol.
  3. Misleading Claims: Trump's assertions about crime rates in Minnesota and accusations of fraud are challenged, with Ben arguing that actual improvements in safety were due to local officials’ efforts, not Trump’s administration.
  1. Public Reaction and Accountability
  2. Dissatisfaction Among Trump Supporters: Many former supporters express discontent with Trump's handling of law enforcement issues. Quotes from supporters indicate a shift in sentiment regarding his policies and actions.
  3. Second Amendment Rights: The episode discusses the implications of using firearms during protests and the contradictory statements from Trump and his supporters regarding constitutional rights.
  1. Political Ramifications
  2. Republican Responses: Ben notes that even some Republicans are distancing themselves from Trump, highlighting the impact of his policies on their campaigns.
  3. Potential Government Shutdown: The episode touches on legislative gridlock and potential government shutdowns as a result of disagreements over funding for ICE.

Key Takeaways

  • Public Advocacy: The episode emphasizes the power of peaceful protests in bringing about political change and holding leaders accountable.
  • Trump's Leadership Style: Ben critiques Trump's tendency to retreat in the face of public opposition, portraying him as a bully who backs down when confronted.
  • Crisis of Faith Among Supporters: The episode illustrates a notable shift in the Republican base, where formerly staunch supporters are reevaluating their loyalty to Trump due to his administration's controversial actions.

Conclusion The podcast episode offers a critical analysis of Donald Trump's recent actions in Minnesota, showcasing how public sentiment and protests can influence political decisions. Through a mix of humor and serious discourse, the Meiselas brothers engage listeners in a deeper understanding of current political dynamics and the implications of law enforcement actions on civil rights.

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Trump's Retreat in Minnesota

2:49 to 6:00

Discussion on Trump's changing stance amidst growing public pressure.

“Donald Trump appears to be backing down as the public pressure grows against his despicable regime and the Border Patrol and ICE cold-blooded murders in Minnesota and throughout the rest of the country.”

Defending Minnesota's Governor

6:01 to 8:56

Analyzing Trump's attacks on Minnesota's Governor and the implications.

“but knows and likes many of the people there.”

Protests and Public Response

8:57 to 13:04

Exploring the protests in Minnesota and public reactions to law enforcement actions.

“So I'm not describing it as anything except for a tragedy.”

The Consequences of Second Amendment Misinterpretation

14:02 to 18:00

Discussing the implications of misusing Second Amendment rights in current events.

“And Preti had a legal permit to conceal, carry a handgun.”

Ice and Border Patrol: Calls for Accountability

18:01 to 19:27

Exploring the atrocities attributed to ICE and Border Patrol, emphasizing the need for justice.

“Folks, even the leading Republican governor candidate in Minnesota.”

Political Reactions and Government Shutdowns

19:28 to 21:03

Analyzing political responses to recent events and the potential for governmental disruption.

“They have universal health care in Denmark.”
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2:49Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump appears to be caving. Donald Trump appears to be backing down as the public pressure grows against his despicable regime and the Border Patrol and ICE cold-blooded murders in Minnesota and throughout the rest of the country. Donald Trump just posted a message saying he had a very respectful conversation with Governor Tim Walls of Minnesota. And Donald Trump posted this message when hours before he attacked the state of Minnesota and said they were involved in all of this fraud. And now Donald Trump appears to be backing down. Let me read to you the message that Donald Trump posted.

3:32Ben Meiselas:And this as the pressure from the American people has reached a fever pitch following the murder, the cold-blooded murder of Alex Jeffrey Preti. Here's the message that Donald Trump posted moments ago. He goes, Governor Tim Walls called me with the request to work together with respect to Minnesota. It was a very good call, and we actually seem to be on a similar wavelength. I told Governor Walls that I would have Tom Homan call him and that we are looking for any and all criminals that they have in their possession. The governor very respectfully understood that, and I will be speaking to him in the near future.

4:09Ben Meiselas:He was happy that Tom Holman was going to Minnesota, and so am I. We have had such tremendous success in Washington, D.C., Memphis, Tennessee, and New Orleans, Louisiana, and virtually every other place that we have, quote, touched. And even in Minnesota, crime is way down. But both Governor Walz and I want to make it better. President Donald J. Trump. Crime was down in Minnesota before you got there because of the work of Governor Walz and local law enforcement. You've made things worse. You've been calling Governor Walz a felon. You've called him Tampon Tim. You've called for his arrest. You defamed him, by the way, hours before you posted this message.

4:50Ben Meiselas:So Donald Trump is obviously caving. And this is how he goes about it. The same way Donald Trump says that he made a deal with Greenland and Denmark after threatening to invade Greenland. This is what Donald Trump does. He makes things up. He lies when he backs down and he goes, oh, yes, Governor Walz is very glad that Tom Homan, the border czar, is heading into Minnesota. Yeah, I don't think Governor Walz wants Tom Homan in his state. I think Governor Walz will be glad that the Trump regime may be sending their border patrol and ICE Gestapo to leave the great state of Minnesota as the people in Minnesota powerfully stood up to Donald Trump and his repressive regime.

5:32Ben Meiselas:And this is what you need to do to punch back against the bully, peacefully protest, uniting as a community and standing up against this authoritarian regime. And you see that Donald Trump caves over and over again when you stand up to him. And this is how Donald Trump tries to find his off ramp. Now, Here's what Donald Trump posted earlier this morning. He wrote, and J.D. Vance reposted, I am sending Tom Homan to Minnesota tonight. He has not been involved in that area, but knows and likes many of the people there. Tom is tough but fair and will report directly to me. Separately, a major investigation is going on with respect to the massive$20 billion plus welfare fraud that has taken place in Minnesota and is at least partially responsible for the violent organized protests going on in the streets.

6:20Ben Meiselas:Additionally, the DOJ and Congress are looking at Congresswoman, and he puts that in quotes, Ilhan Omar, who left Somalia with nothing and is now reportedly worth more than$44 million. Time will tell all. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President DJT. So we went from posting that earlier in the morning to now posting. I've had a great conversation with Governor Walz, a very respectful one. And we talked about ways to make things better after he just defamed Minnesota again, attacked Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, made up more lies about rampant fraud taking place to the tune of$20 billion as pretext for ICE and Border Patrol Gestapo when fraud was being prosecuted under former President Biden.

7:07Ben Meiselas:and Donald Trump's the one pardoning the fraudsters and criminals. But also Donald Trump posted this this morning. Fake and fraudulent polling should be virtually a criminal offense. As an example, all of the anti-Trump media that covered me during the 2020 election showed polls that were knowingly wrong. And then Donald Trump says the failing New York Times, the ABC fake news, NBC fake news, CBS fake news, low rating CNN, or now defunct MSDNC. The polls are all fraudulent. And Donald Trump goes on to threaten that I'm going to sue all of you for your fraudulent polls. By the way, earlier this morning, as part of Donald Trump's caving and capitulation, he sent on state regime media Todd Blanche, his number two at the Department of Justice.

7:53Ben Meiselas:And Todd Blanche said that no one in the regime ever talked about how there was, you know, how Alex Preti was there to massacre people or to harm people. That's not what we said at all, because the Fox host was pissed. I'm going to show you what happened. The Fox host said, you know, you're out there calling Alex Preti a domestic terrorist and saying he was there to massacre police officer, massacre the Border Patrol and ICE Gestapo. That's not what was happening. Watch what Todd Blanche says here. Play this clip. With all due respect, with all due respect, sir. My question is more pointed. Do you believe your colleagues may have gone farther?

8:32You are an attorney, a DOJ. 18 U.S. Code 2331 has a legal definition of domestic terrorism, and it doesn't appear to most of the country that have watched the available video, and we'll see if there's body cam video. I'd love to know if that's going to come out, if there was such a thing, but it does not appear to have met that definition of domestic terrorism. So I'm just sort of wondering how you in the DOJ are viewing whether your colleagues may have gone too far. look i don't i don't think anybody thinks that they were comparing what happened on saturday to the legal definition of domestic terrorism what we saw was a a very violent altercation and we i am not going to prejudge the facts you're right there's a bunch of video that's out there there's a bunch of video that we haven't seen yet in the in the minutes leading up to what happened and and in what happened afterwards and you're right to the extent there's body cam or other videos that witnesses are still providing to us.

9:27So I'm not describing it as anything except for a tragedy.

9:32Ben Meiselas:Okay, well, here's what Stephen Miller posted. Miller wrote, a domestic terrorist tried to assassinate federal law enforcement. And this is your response? You and the state's entire Democratic leadership team have been flaming the flames of insurrection for the singular purpose of stopping the deportation of illegals who invaded the country. And as our editor-in-chief, Ron Filipkowski, wrote back on January 24th when Miller posted this, filming federal agents is only domestic terrorism to fascists. Trump's regime was saying that Alex Preti was a domestic terrorist there to massacre Border Patrol and ICE Gestapo.

10:12Ben Meiselas:Just so you can see for yourself, this was Greg Bovino and Kristi Noem literally saying the exact same thing after Alex Preti was murdered. And Blue Georgia did a good side-by-side cut here. Play this clip. An individual approached U.S. Border Patrol officers with a 9mm semi-automatic handgun. The officers attempted to disarm this individual, but the armed suspect reacted violently. Fearing for his life and for the lives of his fellow officers around him, an agent fired defensive shots. Medics were on the scene immediately and attempted to deliver medical aid to the subject, but he was pronounced dead at the scene.

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13:09Ben Meiselas:And earlier this morning, you had the Wall Street Journal editorial board publishing the following. This is backfiring against Republicans. Americans don't want law enforcement shooting people in the streets or arresting five-year-old boys. The headline from the Wall Street Journal op-ed was, Time for ICE to Pause in Minneapolis. Alex Preti made a mistake, but he wasn't a domestic terrorist. What mistake did he make, though, Wall Street Journal? We have a First Amendment right to peacefully protest. He was there peacefully protesting. The ICE and Border Patrol Gestapo, who were terrorizing the community, they were brutalizing and pepper spraying a female protester.

13:48Ben Meiselas:And Alex Preti went to simply help her when he was pepper sprayed, gang tackled, and beaten by the Border Patrol Gestapo before he was murdered. So what mistake did he make? There's a First Amendment right there. There's also a second amendment, right? The right to bear arms. And Preti had a legal permit to conceal, carry a handgun. He was not brandishing the gun. He didn't point it. In fact, what happened, and we all saw the videos, a border patrol agent removed the gun from the holster. And then when he was completely helpless, Preti was murdered. There was no mistakes made right here. And all of the Trump regime sycophants, the cabinet members, the MAGA Republicans in the House and Senate who say that if you bring a gun to a protest, you deserve to be killed, which is what the Trump regime was saying.

14:41Ben Meiselas:They just showed they never cared about the Second Amendment ever. They were never First Amendment absolutists. They don't care about anything other than hoisting up their own dictator to suck up all the wealth of this country and give it to the right wing oligarchs and screw over the people. As the Wall Street Journal board, though, says Americans don't want law enforcement shooting people in the streets or arresting five year old boys or kidnapping two year old girls. The American people just want health care. The American people want to afford homes. The American people want good education.

15:11Ben Meiselas:The American people want to go and afford their groceries. That's what the American people want, to go about living our lives without a ranting, raving maniac talking about, oh, the fake polls, this, the fake polls, that Greenland, this Greenland, that. We've seen all these messages from MAGA supporters as well. And I think this is one of the reasons Trump has caved as well. You've got MAGA supporters burning their MAGA hats. You have Kyle writing, I voted for Trump. I supported most of his policies. I agree with conservatives most of the time, but I will not partake in this. If exercising your Second Amendment right warrants your death, if rendering aid to your fellow countrymen warrants a death sentence, if constitutional rights take a backseat to administrative policies or infringements are a justified means to an end, I will not partake.

15:58Ben Meiselas:Amy, another Trump supporter, says, I don't say this lightly. I can no longer support Trump. The actions carried out by ICE are wrong and inhumane and leadership is responsible for it. Accountability matters and so does humanity. There was a time when I felt I could support Trump, even if I didn't agree with everything, but watching what's happened with ICE changed that for me completely. The cruelty, the lack of humanity, the suffering of families, it's not something I can justify or look away from. This isn't about politics anymore. It's about basic human decency and I cannot support anyone who allows that to be violated.

16:31Ben Meiselas:Or Grace, I would like to hear from other Trump supporters, How are you feeling about the last three weeks with ICE shootings and murder? Because I no longer can support a president that shows no remorse and continues to allow this to go on. I'm beyond sad. My heart is hurting. And to be clear, yes, I've been a libertarian for many years, and I also am a Trump supporter for several years. I have my reasons, and now I'm not. Even MAGA Republican governor from Florida, Ron DeSantis, is out there attacking the regime right now. He posted a chart from Bar Chart showing the U.S. dollar absolutely tanking right now.

17:06Ben Meiselas:And it says Tim Burr. And Ron DeSantis says, ouch, attacking the regime. Our editor-in-chief, Ron Filipkowski writes, I guess the 2028 Republican primary is already getting started early. Filipkowski also writes, is the government ever going to release the name of the masked agents who killed Alex Petty? Or are we going to continue to have a federal secret police force in this country? I guess we found out from Republicans this week the various ways the Second Amendment rights can be infringed. And by the way, just take a look at the names of the nine people that ICE and Border Patrol have killed so far in 2026 and say their names.

17:44Ben Meiselas:Alex Preti, Rene Good, Keith Porter, Javier Sanchez Dominguez, Victor Manuel Diaz, Paradella, Luis Beltran Yanez Cruz, Luis Gustavo Nunes Caceres, Geraldo Lunos Campos. They all deserve remembrance. They all deserve justice. And when you look into these deaths, they're all horrific. I mean, you take a look at Geraldo Lunas Campos, where the ICE and Border Patrol Gestapo said he died by suicide, but then it became clear with an autopsy that he died because he was strangled, and it appears to have been strangled by ICE officials and strangled to death, and that was being covered up as well. Folks, even the leading Republican governor candidate in Minnesota.

18:26Ben Meiselas:Chris Maydell has announced that he will be ending his bid for governor in Minnesota because he can't stand by as the national GOP party goes on to attack the state of Minnesota. He said, I can't be a part of, I can't run for the governor as a Republican candidate where the national Republican party is out there terrorizing the state of Minnesota. So he dropped out of the race, the leading Republican candidate or one of the leading Republican candidates in Minnesota. And folks, there's so many other data points as well that I just want to share with you that you wake up and you say, what's going on?

19:05Ben Meiselas:This regime is so despicable. I mean, you have Mike Walls, the United Nations, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. He's out there still ranting and raving and lying that Greenland is not being taken care of by Denmark enough and that they don't have health care in Greenland. And if you get if you have cancer in Greenland, you'll die because you won't be able to get treatment. I think you're referring to the United States because they have universal health care in Greenland. They have universal health care in Denmark. If you get a cancer diagnosis in Greenland right now, you may be flown free of charge to Denmark to receive treatment free of charge.

19:43Ben Meiselas:In the U.S., it's a death sentence. Play this clip. But they have ignored Greenland from a defense standpoint, and they have ignored the Greenlandic native Inuit people. Final point there, if you look in contrast to Alaska natives, there's an Alaska sovereign wealth fund, Shannon, that has over$80 billion in assets benefiting Alaska natives. If you get a cancer diagnosis in Greenland right now, it's darn near a death sentence. Denmark has not invested in the way that it should have over the years. And as Mike Walls, the MAGA Republican US ambassador to the United Nations is out there again, still defaming Greenland and Denmark.

20:24Ben Meiselas:You have this latest chart right here. Michael Arete posts it, a chart showing how measles cases are surging, have surged in 2025 and you compare it to prior years. And it's astounding as Michael Arete says, wow, this chart is simply unreal. How is this even possible that in a developed country in the 21st century, you have this taking place with massive measles outbreaks across the United States right now? And finally, it seems that we are now approaching another government shutdown. I did a video on this earlier today. MAGA Mike Johnson has put the House of Representatives in recess. You'll recall that the House passed this appropriation spending bill that would also increase funding for ICE.

21:10Ben Meiselas:The Democrats in the Senate are not supporting any increases for ICE. So if there are any amendments right now to the appropriations bill in the Senate, which doesn't appear it will pass the Senate in its current form, if there are any changes, it has to get sent back to the House. But MAGA Mike has sent the House into yet another recess. It's adjourned. They're on vacation again. And now it seems like we're going to head into another government shutdown. And by the way, MAGA Mike Johnson has not commented at all on anything in the past 48 hours since the cold-blooded murder of Alex Jeffrey Pretti.

21:47Ben Meiselas:He's gone radio silent because he's weak and he's pathetic. And now that, and he sent the house into another vacation, just like he did before when he was covering up the Epstein files over the summer and then refused to allow the house to even work. Anyway, we'll keep you posted every step of the way. Hit subscribe, help us get to 6 million subscribers. And thanks for watching. Want to stay plugged in? Become a subscriber to our sub stack at MidasPlus.com. You'll get daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski, add free episodes of our podcast, and more exclusive content only available at MidasPlus.com.

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