Trump Loses It as Clinton Deposition Backfires in His Face

26 Feb 2026 · 23 min · 9 chapters

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Episode Title

Trump Loses It as Clinton Deposition Backfires in His Face

Hosts

Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas

Overview

In this episode, Ben Meiselas discusses the fallout from former President Donald Trump's attempts to depose Bill and Hillary Clinton. The episode highlights how this strategy is backfiring as attention shifts toward allegations against Trump himself, particularly concerning accusations of sexual misconduct involving minors.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Background of the Clinton Depositions:
  2. The episode begins with an overview of the depositions of Bill and Hillary Clinton taking place in Chappaqua, New York.
  3. The Meiselas brothers explore why MAGA Republicans are pushing for these depositions, questioning the rationale behind targeting the Clintons.
  1. MAGA Republicans and Sexual Assault Allegations:
  2. Ben highlights the hypocrisy of MAGA Republicans questioning the Clintons while overlooking serious allegations against Trump.
  3. He features clips of Republican Congressman James Comer avoiding direct questions about Trump's alleged cover-up of FBI records related to sexual assault accusations.
  1. Democratic Response:
  2. Democratic Congress members, including Garcia and Subramanian, emphasize the importance of transparency in the investigation and criticize the GOP for their selective focus.
  3. Garcia points out that Trump and his regime are hiding crucial information regarding Epstein’s case, particularly files related to victims who alleged Trump sexually assaulted them.
  1. Key Quotes and Highlights:
  2. "What we really need to be talking about are the fact that Donald Trump and his regime are hiding massive amounts of information from the Epstein files."
  3. "This isn’t just about Democrats. This is about anyone that has any knowledge of Epstein."
  1. Boris Brend and the Epstein Connection:
  2. Discussion of Boris Brend, former CEO of the World Economic Forum, resigning due to his ties with Epstein, illustrating the ongoing fallout from the scandal.
  3. Ben connects Brend’s resignation to a broader narrative of the so-called "Epstein class" and how it interlinks with Trump.
  1. The Media Response:
  2. The episode touches on how media pundits are deflecting discussions about Trump's allegations by redirecting blame towards President Biden.
  3. Commentary on the MAGA narrative focusing on Biden's actions instead of addressing the allegations against Trump.
  1. Humor and Banter Among Hosts:
  2. Throughout the episode, the brothers employ their signature humor, making light of serious topics while maintaining a focus on the implications for democracy and accountability.
  1. Cultural References and Broader Context:
  2. Ben makes references to the "Epstein class" and the moral implications of Trump's actions, suggesting a societal divide between those who protect the powerful and the victims seeking justice.

Key Takeaways

  • The episode illustrates the irony and contradictions in political narratives, especially among MAGA Republicans.
  • It emphasizes the critical need for transparency and accountability in addressing allegations of sexual misconduct.
  • The podcast combines serious political discourse with humor, making complex issues more relatable and engaging.

Additional Information

  • Listeners are encouraged to subscribe to the MeidasTouch Network and explore various related podcasts.
  • The episode engages with ongoing political discussions and invites listeners to critically analyze media narratives.

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Trump's Deposition Chaos

0:33 to 2:06

Discussion on Trump's deposition plans and the implications of MAGA Republicans' actions.

“Donald Trump is losing it this morning as his plan with the MAGA Republicans to depose former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.”

Congressional Responses to Trump

2:06 to 4:28

Exploration of various Congress members' reactions to Trump's alleged cover-ups and depositions.

“Why isn't Howard Lutnick's deposition taking place?”

Missing Files and Accountability

4:28 to 6:39

Discussion on missing DOJ files related to Epstein and Trump, emphasizing the need for transparency.

“that clearly shows that the interviews and information around this survivor have been removed and are missing from the DOJ files.”

MAGA's Defense and Distractions

12:15 to 14:01

Examining how MAGA Republicans are deflecting from Trump's legal issues to other topics.

“he's trying to say that Bill Clinton was close to Epstein.”

Strategic Importance of Greenland

14:01 to 15:00

Learn why Greenland is viewed as a key strategic asset for the U.S.

“Doug Burgum, Donald Trump's interior secretary, or someone says the secretary of the exterior, right?”

Cuba's Regime and U.S. Policy

15:01 to 16:48

Explore the discussion on U.S. policy towards Cuba and its regime change.

“Some people have described Greenland as one big piece of ice.”

Military Deployments and Morale

16:49 to 18:25

Understand the implications of long military deployments on U.S. forces.

“For too long, we've been actively, not actively, but passively helping them.”

Trump's State of the Union Ratings

18:26 to 19:16

Analyze the viewership trends of Trump's State of the Union addresses.

“A few other things I want to point out, data folks, you know, we love data right here.”

Midas Touch Podcast Success

19:16 to 19:30

Discover how the Midas Touch podcast ranked number one among major shows.

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0:00Hillary Clinton:Ever notice how ads always pop up at the worst moments? When the killer's identity is about to be revealed. During that perfect meditation flow. On Amazon Music, we believe in keeping you in the moment. That's why we've got millions of ad-free podcast episodes, so you can stay completely immersed in every story, every reveal, every breath. Download the Amazon Music app and start listening to your favorite podcasts ad-free, included with Prime.

0:33Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is losing it this morning as his plan with the MAGA Republicans to depose former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. It is blowing up in Donald Trump and MAGA's face right now. So in Chappaqua, New York, you have Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton's deposition taking place today. But what the press were asking the MAGA Republicans who showed up for these depositions, although they weren't at Les Wexner's depositions, but what the people want to know and what the press want to know is why is Donald Trump covering up FBI 302 interviews from survivors who have accused Donald Trump of sexual assault when they are minors?

1:18Ben Meiselas:So that was posed to James Comer. Comer, what do you have to say about that? Here, play this clip.

1:24Bill Clinton:Are you concerned that there has been a cover of sexual abuse of a minor by President Trump that are missing FBI records? No, we're looking into the accusation by the NPR. We don't know the answer to that. We know what the administration says. We're still looking to get a definitive answer on that.

1:45Ben Meiselas:Also, James Comer and the MAGA Republicans who showed up to Hillary Clinton's deposition in connection with Epstein? Why in the world are the Clintons being deposed here? What are we even talking about? Clinton's name's not even in Hillary Clinton's name's not even in the files, but okay. You want to go there, Comer? All right. What about Howard Lutnick? Why isn't Howard Lutnick's deposition taking place? And watch what James Comer says. Here, play this clip.

2:13Bill Clinton:We'll do one more question. Go ahead.

2:15Hillary Clinton:In the spirit of bipartisanship, would you then ask the Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick to come testify. It seems like he has some information.

2:22Bill Clinton:That's very possible. And I think there, you know, I think it's a good possibility that his name will arise in some questioning today. It'll be on my list. And I have an email I printed off for Hillary to ask about Howard Lutnick today. We're asking again, and I want to remind everyone, we've already brought in Alex Acosta and Bill Barr for depositions. That's two Republicans in the Trump administration. So this isn't just about Democrats. This is about anyone that has any knowledge of Epstein, the investigation. I think we all agree the government failed. The government failed the victims. And what our role is, we can't we can't prosecute anyone.

3:01Bill Clinton:But what we have been doing is getting transparency with American people.

3:06Ben Meiselas:We subpoena. Then you have Democratic Congress member Garcia. He held his press conference outside where Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton were being deposed. And Congress member Garcia says, what we really need to be talking about are the fact that, or is the fact that Donald Trump and his regime are hiding massive amounts of information from the Epstein files. And specifically, we know he's hiding files that are from individuals who say that when they were minors, Donald Trump sexually assaulted them. Those accusations are now being hidden. Watch Congress member Garcia make it clear what we should really be discussed right now.

3:46Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. But I also want to say, I think it's

3:48Bill Clinton:very important that at this very moment, the Department of Justice continues to lead a White House cover up. And we're going to be demanding even over these next few days that the remaining files have not been released, get released to the public. And that includes new files that were just discovered in the last couple days of a survivor that has made serious accusations and allegations against not just Jeffrey Epstein, but also against President Trump and about abuse that she suffered when she was a minor. We have seen the DOJ files and the archive manifest that clearly shows that the interviews and information around this survivor have been removed and are missing from the DOJ files.

4:46Bill Clinton:Where are these files? Who removed them? Those questions have to be answered. What we have is a survivor that we have verified, that others have verified, and those files are missing. It's not just those. It's an additional 50 % of files that are missing. It is unconscionable. It is illegal. And Pan Bondi and the president need to answer to where those files are. And that's going to continue to drive our -

5:16Ben Meiselas:Then you have Democratic Congress member Subramanian. Here's what he had to say.

5:20Hillary Clinton:I'm Congressman Suhas Subramanian. We're here today in New York to talk to Hillary Clinton, and tomorrow to talk to former President Bill Clinton. I want to make clear that there were no Republicans in Ohio to talk to Les Wexner, who bankrolled Epstein's fortune, for the most part, and allowed a lot of his crimes to happen. Hillary Clinton, who maintains that she doesn't recall meeting Jeffrey Epstein, is here today. And we have a lot of Republicans here today. That underscores, to me, the partisan nature of what some of the Republicans on our committee and in Congress are doing and the way they're approaching this investigation.

5:57Hillary Clinton:And meanwhile, they're not holding the Department of Justice accountable for breaking the law over and over again. There's two and a half million files that have not been released. And now we're hearing and seeing evidence of some of those files, including accusations against President Trump. We know that there are other information in those files that clearly is not about protecting victims. It's about protecting people who committed crimes. And so we, as Democrats on the oversight committee are going to continue to approach this investigation in a nonpartisan way, because all we want is the truth and we want justice for the survivors.

6:32Hillary Clinton:And we want to make sure this never happens again, no matter how rich and powerful the perpetrators are. Thank you.

6:38Ben Meiselas:Also this morning, it should be noted that Bors Brend, the president and CEO of the World Economic Forum, remember that guy? Remember at Davos, he was the guy who was all chummy with Donald Trump. You see them on stage right there. Borsh Brand, remember he posted on January 21st, it was a pleasure to welcome Donald Trump to Davos. At a time of significant economic, technological, and geopolitical change, the World Economic Forum provides a platform for leaders from government, business, and civil society to exchange views on issues shaping the world. Well, that guy, Borg Bren, has now announced that he's stepping down from his position.

7:20Ben Meiselas:He's quitting following an independent investigation into his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Here's a photo of him and Steve Bannon as well. And so one of the things, first off, he was Norway's foreign minister, and then he took over the World Economic Forum in 2017. The recently released Epstein files, as europareports.com, revealed that Brent had communicated with and met Jeffrey Epstein numerous times, despite stating he had not done so previously. Brent claimed that he was unaware of Epstein's criminal past, but the files show that he sent a thumbs up emoji to a link Jeffrey Epstein sent him of his criminal sentence.

8:01Ben Meiselas:Controversy was also caused, Europa says, by Epstein and Brand ridiculing the wife of Benjamin Netanyahu and calling her Miss Piggy. I guess they use the name Piggy as well, the way Donald Trump refers to women as. But seems like it's the Epstein class protecting the Epstein class. But for Donald Trump, the message that he wants out this morning is that this is about the patriots versus the hatreds. Maybe, Donald, it's about the pedos and pedo protectors like you and your regime versus the people. Maybe that's the divide that we're seeing right now. The Epstein class and everybody else. Donald, I think that's how the American people see it.

8:43Ben Meiselas:Donald. And then the Epstein class protectors all had to rush on state regime media this morning to protect dear leaders, fragile, but rapidly deteriorating, cracking ego. So you had you had over here, Perino interviewing Margaret Republican Congress member Pat Fallon. And so what do you think the question was? What do you think? There seems to be a lot of questions that the Department of Justice may be suppressing files. What say you, MAGA Republican congressman? And the MAGA Republican congressman goes, oh, it's Biden's fault. Biden released zero. Look at what we're doing right now. Everything with them is Biden, Biden, Biden.

9:28Ben Meiselas:And hey, your dear leader is all over these files, bud. 38 ,000 times in what has been released, potentially a million times in what hasn't been released. In what has been released, his name appears more than Harry in the Harry Potter series, more than God or Jesus in the Bible. But okay, go ahead and talk about Biden. Here, play this clip.

9:49Hillary Clinton:For people that are following this story and are seeing that there's been a recent controversy, a question on whether the Department of Justice to suppress some of the information in the investigation that would have dealt with President Trump? How would you respond?

10:03Bill Clinton:Oh, not at all. I mean, we've been... Just look at the data, right? Under the Biden White House and the DOJ, zero files were released. No videos, no images, nothing. Under... When we got control of the Oversight Committee, the Republicans released 65 ,000 documents, and the DOJ has now released 2 ,000 videos, 180 ,000 images, and 3.5 billion documents and pages. We've been very forthcoming and very transparent. I'd like to know why the Democrats weren't interested in this when Joe Biden was president.

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12:15Ben Meiselas:Then you have Congress member, MAGA Republican Congress member Fallon saying, look, the reason that we need to depose Bill Clinton right now, the reason we're doing this is that we've never had a former president this close to a convicted felon. he's trying to say that Bill Clinton was close to Epstein. That's why you realize that Donald Trump is a convicted felon. You realize that Donald Trump's been found civilly liable for sex assault. You know, it's when people are like, oh, there's nothing in the files about Donald Trump. There's a ton in the files about Donald Trump. But even if I didn't look in the files, I could just look into life and I could be like, well, isn't that the guy who said, and he brags that he sexually assaults women and grabs them by their genitals because when you're rich, you get away with it.

13:06Ben Meiselas:Isn't that a direct quote? Doesn't he say that he inspects girls naked at beauty pageants because when you're the inspector, you get away with it? It's your job as the head of the beauty pageant. Isn't it that guy who found civilly liable for sexual assault? But go ahead, Fallon, go ahead. Here, play this clip. Here we are.

13:23Bill Clinton:We made a lot of accommodations. We came to them, but we just want to find out the truth. We want accountability and transparency for the American people and for the survivors of... So this has never been done before, and a former president's never been compelled to appear before Congress. Is this where this is all heading as of today? Well, we've never had a former president either this close to a convicted felon either. I mean, it's problematic.

13:47Ben Meiselas:Okay, but now they need their pivot, right? Oh no, what did we do? Now everybody's talking about Donald Trump and the accusations against him in the Epstein files. All right. Where are we going with this one? War with Greenland. So they start that again. Doug Burgum, Donald Trump's interior secretary, or someone says the secretary of the exterior, right? Why is the interior secretary talking about war with Greenland? But okay. War with Greenland day again, everybody. There they go. We need to take it over. Play this clip.

14:22Bill Clinton:What else can you tell us about that? Well, Ambassador Whitaker has it right. This is the strategic importance. Think of it as a bookend. Alaska on one end and Greenland on the other, really providing the shield, if you will, to protect North America and the United States. Absolutely critical. and of course there is more activity up there, both Russia and China active in the Arctic. And we need to make sure that the U.S. is, if we're going to carry on, as they call it, the Don Roe Doctrine, North and South America, free from these interests of our adversaries, Greenland is key. Some people have described Greenland as one big piece of ice.

15:04Bill Clinton:It is two and a half times the size of Alaska. And Alaska is the size of California plus Arizona, plus New Mexico plus Texas. Wow. And so the 80 % of Greenland that it does have ice, the 20 % that doesn't in Greenland is the size of California. Size of California with 50 ,000 people living there. There's such an opportunity for the Greenlanders, such an opportunity for North America and the United States in a partnership. You know, just like, again, when we bought Alaska, there was hardly anybody living in Alaska. When the United States bought Alaska, you know, now 800 ,000 people and a major contributor to defense and a major contributor to U.S.

15:42Bill Clinton:energy.

15:42Ben Meiselas:Then bring in NATO Ambassador Matt Whitaker.

15:44Bill Clinton:Warren Greenland, play this clip. While NATO reportedly falling behind Russia and China in the race to build up icebreakers and other tools critical for the potential war in the Arctic, Interior Secretary Doug Burgum is renewing President Trump's calls to take on Greenland, to take it, calling it a strategic vital asset for the U.S. economy and national security. The Secretary, of course, will join me at 8 a.m. Eastern, and he's going to talk more about that this morning. But where are the NATO allies at this point? Is this off the table or is this still a consideration for the United States to use Greenland as a critical security spot?

16:19Bill Clinton:I know the president has discussed wanting to build part of his golden dome on Greenland. Yeah, obviously Greenland is a critical part of North American security. We have a high-level working group that's negotiating trilaterally with the United States, Denmark, and Greenland.

16:36Ben Meiselas:Warren Cuba, let's strangle the regime. Mega Republicans say, Warren Cuba, play the clip. Are we doing something other than strangling them?

16:47Bill Clinton:Well, that's what we need to do. We need to strangle the regime. For too long, we've been actively, not actively, but passively helping them. You know, we send remittances. We have flights. We allowed luxury goods to be exported from the United States, kind of circumventing the Helms-Burton law right now. You know, everything is, you know, the noose is tightening around around their neck. They lost Venezuela, which is one of their prime, you know, friends in the region. Mexico is no longer helping them as much as as as they were in the past. And so they are slowly, slowly, you know, strangling to death, which can't come soon enough for me.

17:28Bill Clinton:We need that regime to go. Yeah, the regime is causing this humanitarian crisis in Cuba. And the faster they go, the faster that we can help the Cuban people.

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17:37Ben Meiselas:War in Iran, war everywhere, war everywhere, everybody. You get the point. Those are all the clips this morning. Also, I mean, if you think about the aircraft carriers right now and the tours that they are doing right now, as this says, news.usni.org points out, should the USS Gerald Ford remain deployed until mid-April, right? We're getting pretty close to that. it would have broken the post-Vietnam War 294-day record for carrier deployments. If the carrier route is until early May, it would match the 300-day-plus deployments that carriers conducted to the Gulf of Tonkin. I mean, Trump is really stretching our military thin right now.

18:17Ben Meiselas:The president of peace is going to so much wars that the morale in our military and the resources are being stretched very, very thin right now. A few other things I want to point out, data folks, you know, we love data right here. When you look at Donald Trump's State of the Union address viewership, only 28 million viewers across the eight major networks. By the way, the Midas Touch Network People State of the Union drew over 2 million viewers. And if you look, This was like one of the worst ratings for a state of the union ever. I mean, in 2020, 37.2, 2018, 45.6. Just look at Donald Trump's other state of the unions.

19:00Ben Meiselas:Nobody wants to hear this guy speak. In the latest Emerson poll of the congressional ballot, generic congressional ballots, Democrats lead 50 to 42%. And yet again, three weeks in a row, the Midas Touch podcast is number one on the weekly top podcast shows, beating Joe Rogan, Good Mythical Morning, Kill Tony, Sean Ryan Show, Smosh Reads, Tucker Carlson, and others. Way to go, Midas Mighty. Now hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million subscribers and make sure you subscribe to our audio podcast as well. If you're on YouTube and you like these YouTube videos, subscribe to our audio podcast by just searching Midas Dutch.

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