Trump Loses It at Disaster WH Meeting with Zelenskyy

18 Oct 2025 · 26 min · 15 chapters

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In short

The episode covers a White House press conference involving Donald Trump, President Volodymyr Zelensky, and cabinet members, framed as chaotic and disrespectful. Key claims include: Trump floated a Russia-to-Alaska tunnel idea and asked Zelensky’s reaction; Zelensky said he was “not happy” and referenced Alaska road ownership. A reporter asked about providing Ukraine Tomahawk-like missiles; Trump responded they’d discuss it and accused the questioner of repeating Zelensky’s line. Trump claimed both Zelensky and Putin were “doing great jobs” negotiating, despite Putin’s invasion. He attacked Democrats over healthcare, mocked “MedBed” claims, praised Viktor Orban, and said he’d been “played” but wants a deal with Putin.

Notable examples

Trump’s “beautiful jacket” remark, crediting himself for Javelins, and “your mom” White House joke.

Guests

Zelensky (Ukrainian president); Peter Doocy (Fox News); Viktor Orban (praised, not present); Mike Lindell (Lindell TV, questioner).

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Chapters

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Trump's Disastrous Meeting with Zelensky

0:30 to 1:16

Analysis of Trump's chaotic press conference with Zelensky and cabinet.

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Trump's Disastrous Meeting with Zelensky

2:24 to 3:56

Analysis of Trump's chaotic press conference with Zelensky and cabinet.

“Donald Trump just wrapped up a disastrous press conference with some of his cabinet members and President Zelensky.”

Trump's Controversial Statements

3:56 to 6:00

Discussion of Trump's troubling remarks about negotiations and missiles.

“continue even using the cruise cruise missiles and also nuclear capable ballistic missiles in ukraine since 2022.”

Trump's Claims of War Negotiations

6:00 to 8:06

Examination of Trump's assertions about war negotiations and credit-taking.

“Then Donald Trump makes this very demeaning statement to President Zelensky and says, I think you're wearing a beautiful jacket.”

Trump's Remarks on Maduro

8:06 to 9:08

Trump discusses Maduro and makes controversial comments on leadership.

“And if we didn't if we didn't give the anti-tank missiles, as you know, the javelins, they call them, they got stuck in the mud.”

Trump's Claims of Saving Lives

12:28 to 14:00

Trump boasts about saving lives and stopping wars during interviews.

“he goes, I've saved tens of millions of lives.”

Trump's Accusations Against Democrats

14:00 to 14:58

Discussion on Trump's claims about Democrats' intentions and healthcare.

“Then during this meeting, he attacks Democrats and says, they are really mentally damaged.”

Critique of Trump's Behavior

14:59 to 15:49

Analysis of Trump's behavior during the press conference and its implications.

“I think right now the Democrats are really damaged, mentally damaged.”

Praise for Viktor Orban

15:50 to 16:33

Examination of Trump's remarks about Viktor Orban and their context.

“This press conference is demonstrative of sheer lunacy and stupidity.”

Lindell TV's Question to Zelensky

16:34 to 17:40

Detailing a controversial question posed to Zelensky during the meeting.

“He's been a very good leader in the sense of running his country.”
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Zelensky's Response on Peace

17:41 to 19:56

Zelensky discusses the importance of peace talks and security guarantees.

“President Trump, President Karatashinova from Lindell TV.”

Difference in Diplomacy: Trump vs. Biden

19:57 to 21:34

Zelensky outlines differences in approach between Trump and Biden.

“Then Peter Doocy from Fox asks Zelensky a question.”

Trump's Claims About NATO Payments

21:35 to 22:40

Discussion on Trump's assertions regarding payments to NATO.

“and the other one is grossly incompetent.”

Proposal for a Putin-Trump Tunnel

22:41 to 23:35

Exploration of a bizarre proposal for a rail tunnel between the U.S. and Russia.

“The Kremlin envoy proposed that the Putin-Trump tunnel, they'd call it, link Russia and the U.S.”

Final Remarks and Subscribe Call

23:36 to 24:12

Conclusion of the episode with a call to action for listeners.

“and Dmitriev has been meeting with Anna Paulina Luna and speaking with Republican Congress members to talk about widespread trade between the U.S.”
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2:24Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump just wrapped up a disastrous press conference with some of his cabinet members and President Zelensky. This took place at the White House. Let me bring you the receipts and show you what happened. Donald Trump said that he was considering building a tunnel between Russia and Alaska. Donald Trump then asks President Zelensky, what do you think about that plan? And Zelensky says, well, I'm not happy with that. Here, play this clip.

2:53I just heard about a tunnel from Russia to Alaska. I just heard about that one. That's an interesting one. We'll have to think about that. I hadn't heard that. We just did a nice road in Alaska. It's going to get us to a lot of minerals. And we have a piece of it, a good piece of the ownership because of the fact we made it possible. But this came up yesterday, a tunnel from Russia to Alaska. That's an interesting. What do you think of that, Mr. President? Do you have any ideas? How do you like that idea? I'm not happy with this. I don't think you're going to like it. I don't think he liked it.

3:27I don't think he liked it.

3:30Ben Meiselas:And how utterly disrespectful. disrespectful then a ukrainian reporter asked donald trump have you considered providing ukraine with tomahawk or similar missiles isn't that what you were supposed to do this week before you spoke to putin earlier and then donald trump kind of yells at the reporter and says uh well did he tell you to say that is that what zelinski told you to say here play this clip it continues using similar cruise missiles like uh caliber who are you with who are you with ukraine but russia continue even using the cruise cruise missiles and also nuclear capable ballistic missiles in ukraine since 2022.

4:13so do you consider providing ukraine with the tomahawk or similar missiles as an opportunity to equalize the possibilities of Ukraine and Russia and push most of the negotiations. Yeah, sure. We're going to be talking about that. That's why we're here. Okay. Fair question. Exactly as he told you to say it, but we're going to be talking about it. Okay. Yeah, please.

4:38Ben Meiselas:Next, Peter Doocy from Fox asked Donald Trump, who do you think is doing a better job negotiating, Zelensky or Putin? And then Donald Trump says, they're both doing great jobs. Putin and Zelensky are both doing great jobs negotiating. What the hell are you talking about? Putin invaded Ukraine, you moron. Here, play this clip. Sir, President Trump, you are the middleman right now, hoping to end this conflict. Who is doing a better job negotiating? President Zelensky or President Putin? I think they're both doing a great job in that sense. We have to get it done. We've got to take some of the hatred of each other.

5:18You know, they don't like each other. I say that in front of President Zelensky, but I say it in front of President Putin, too. They have tremendous bad blood. It really is what is holding up, I think, a settlement. I think we're going to get it done, and we have to make it long-lasting, as I said in the Middle East, everlasting, right? Everlasting.

5:39Ben Meiselas:And again, this was going to be a week where Donald Trump said he would impose sanctions on Russia and provide these missiles to Ukraine. Then Putin called Donald Trump and then Putin sent some of his emissaries into the United States or to discuss with the United States doing trade deals. And then Donald Trump said, oh, no, I'm not going to do sanctions and I'm not going to provide Ukraine with the weapons that they need. Then Donald Trump makes this very demeaning statement to President Zelensky and says, I think you're wearing a beautiful jacket. Look at his beautiful jacket, everybody, because Donald Trump doesn't allow Zelensky to wear the clothes that Zelensky normally wear.

6:14Ben Meiselas:So this is Donald Trump's way of like demeaning Zelensky in front of the world. Here, play this clip. After with details where we are. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. And I think it looks beautiful in his jacket. Yeah, beautiful. I hope people notice it's a good it's actually very stylish. I like it. A reporter that asked Donald Trump, are you concerned at all that Putin's just trying to buy more time from you and that you're being played. And then Donald Trump's like, I've been played my whole life by the best of them. They've tried to play me. And I think that Putin really wants to make a deal here.

6:51Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. On your meeting with Putin, aren't you concerned that maybe the Russian president is trying to buy himself more time? Yeah, I am. But, you know, I've been played all my life by the best of them. And I came out really well. So it's possible. Yeah, a little time. It's all right. But I think that I'm pretty good at this stuff. I think that he wants to make a deal. I made eight of them. I'm going to make a ninth. I think he wants to make a deal. You said you were going to end this on day one. You said that you were going to end the war in 24 hours. You are a liar. Then Donald Trump goes on this rant that Putin should have won the war.

7:38Ben Meiselas:You mean the invasion of Ukraine in a week. But then Donald Trump says that I'm the reason I saved Ukraine because I gave them the javelin missiles. So I'm the savior, not Obama, not Biden. Me, me, me. I did it. Again, it's so embarrassing to watch this on the world stage or just watch it in general. Here, play this clip.

8:02Well, I think I think that he should have won the war in a week. Yeah, I do think. And if we didn't if we didn't give the anti-tank missiles, as you know, the javelins, they call them, they got stuck in the mud. They would have been in Kiev very quickly. They were heading to Kiev. So, you know, in war, you have a lot of luck to, you know, people. weather has won war and the cold and the heat and all things take place in war but that was a very interesting moment when the tanks started rolling and some brilliant general said let's go through the mud instead of going down the highway right so they they got a little bit lucky but you know where they really got lucky i gave javelins that wasn't given by barack hussein obama he gave them sheets you know there's a statement obama gave them sheets and i gave them the javelins and the javelins are a devastating weapon and that wasn't given by obama that was given by because at the time it was obama uh that was given by that was given by me so it was like one of those things uh and you had hundreds of them hundreds of them they're a devastating weapon we have a lot of devastating weapons i'd rather not use them but that was a big moment You know, when the tanks, when the tanks got stuck, they got stuck and call it luck or call it talent.

9:29I'm not sure what you'd call it, but it was a big moment in time. Do you think Democrats would give you credit? Do you think Democrats would give you credit when you finally end this?

9:37Ben Meiselas:Then Donald Trump is asked a question about the Venezuelan leader, Maduro. And the question is, we've heard Maduro has offered you everything you wanted. So are you going to make a deal there? And then Donald Trump says, yeah, you know why? He doesn't want to fuck around with the United States and Trump like curses. I don't know. Does he think this looks tough by cursing like this? Yeah, he doesn't want to fuck around. Can you act like a freaking president, please? Can you behave like a grown up and stop this cosplay stolen valor crap? Here, play this clip. Things are happening around the world, I'll say that.

10:13The president has been reported that Maduro offered everything in his country, all the natural resources. He even recorded a message to you in English recently offering mediation. What should we do to stop that? He has offered everything. He's offered everything. You're right. You know why? Because he doesn't want to fuck around with the United States. You ever step outside and feel like you're instantly drenched in sweat? it's like no matter what you do, it doesn't stop. Now I know with this heat, that's basically me every day. Now if you've been struggling with the heat and humidity like I have, I have great news.

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12:28Ben Meiselas:Then Donald Trump wants to take credit for, he goes, I've saved tens of millions of lives. The leader of Pakistan told me I've saved tens of millions of lives. I've stopped nine wars, nine wars I've stopped. So ridiculous. Here, play this clip. So to the best of my knowledge, we've never had a president that solved one war. Not one war. Bush started a war. A lot of them start wars, but they don't solve the wars. They don't settle them. and especially when they're not, when they have nothing to do with us. I sell almost, I guess just about all of these wars had nothing to do with us, but I saved tens of millions of lives.

13:04The prime minister of Pakistan said, I saved millions of lives in interceding on Pakistan. And you look at Pakistan and India as an example, that would have been a bad one, two nuclear nations, right? So.

13:17Ben Meiselas:And by the way, the Pakistani leader is telling you that because that's not what happened. They've invested money in your crypto, your family's crypto portfolio. And meanwhile, you've alienated America's strong relationship with India and Modi, who's now allied with China. Great work there, Donald. Great work there, Donald. And then Donald Trump continues to talk about the Nobel Peace Prize. And he says, I don't even know the woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize. Here, play this clip. We resolved eight others. It's funny how people say that. If you get this one, every time i do one they forget about that one uh i solved eight wars go to rwanda and the congo talk about india and pakistan uh look at thailand look at i look at all of the wars that we saw and every time i saw when they say if you solve the next one you're going to get the nobel prize i didn't get a nobel prize somebody got it who's a very nice woman very nice i don't know who she is, but she was very generous.

14:19Ben Meiselas:Then during this meeting, he attacks Democrats and says, they are really mentally damaged. They want to destroy our healthcare system. Okay. Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, which is popular, Medicaid, Medicare, you're the one destroying those programs. What is your plan? Is your plan posting AI videos of alien technology from outer space that cures people's cancers on something called the MedBed? Is it lying and saying that American pharmaceutical prices will go down negative 1600 percent? That's your plan just to commit fraud every single damn day versus actually coming up with a plan because you're an idiot.

14:58Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. I think right now the Democrats are really damaged, mentally damaged. they want to take 1.5 trillion with a t trillion dollars and give it to people that invaded our country they came into our country illegally from prisons from from mental institutions gang members they want to give them health care and take it away from our citizens we're not going to do that 1.5 trillion dollars they want to destroy they want to destroy our health care system we're not going to let that happen

15:38Ben Meiselas:Then Donald Trump goes on. I mean, he's clearly a stupid. I mean, just look at him like he's like, this is stupid behavior. And, you know, shame on our country for electing this guy. This guy's an idiot. And as you watch him, he's like, we're not stupid anymore. We were stupid. We're not stupid. This press conference is demonstrative of sheer lunacy and stupidity. Here play this clip. They just didn't know. They didn't understand what was happening to them. But I understood it. I understood it long before I ran for politics. I used to watch in amazement at how stupid our country was, how stupid they were.

16:14And we're not stupid anymore.

16:16Ben Meiselas:Then Donald Trump praises his friend Viktor Orban, Putin's puppet in front of Zelensky when Orban has been a major, major problem for Zelensky and someone who's really been harming the European Union from within. Let's play it.

16:38Because it's a leader that we like. We like Viktor Orban. He likes him. I like him. It's a country that's a safe country. He's done a very good job. He's been a very good leader in the sense of running his country. He doesn't have a lot of the problems that other countries have. And so we've decided that we'll be going to be with Viktor Orban and he will, I think he'll be a very good host.

17:07Ben Meiselas:Then you got this question from Lindell TV. Yep. Mike Lindell, the pillow guy, has a TV channel apparently and his hosts get preferential treatment in the White House. So this Lindell propagandist tries to like attack Zelensky and then she's like, Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President. Then she's like, the president has stuck his neck out for you, Zelensky. He saved you. What are you going to do? Are you going to withdraw from NATO? Zelensky, to his credit, handles it calmly and professionally, despite this being an idiotic question. Here, play this clip. President Trump, President Karatashinova from Lindell TV.

17:45And although I love asking you questions today, my question is for President Zelensky. Sure. Go ahead, please. Thank you. Our president, President Zelensky, President Trump, just broke a peace deal in the Middle East that all Americans, both sides of the aisle, are very proud of. But to meet that deal, both sides had to make concessions. Our president has stuck out his neck in many ways to make a peace deal for your war as well. What specific concessions are you willing to make to end this war with Russia? Will you give up joining NATO? Americans have foreign war fatigue and our president, as he said, we need our tomahawks too.

18:22To me? Yes, you, President Zelensky. Thank you very much. That's some questions. So many questions in one. Thank you very much for your question. First of all, I think we need to sit and speak. The second point, we need ceasefire. Even now, you see in the Middle East, it's very difficult to hold CIS file everywhere, in every war, it's very difficult. We want this. Putin doesn't want. That's why we need pressure on it. We will speak with President today what we need. We understand what we need to push Putin to negotiation table. And as I said previously, so we are ready to speak in any kind of format, bilateral, It doesn't matter.

19:08It doesn't matter. It's just peace. This is important. And we don't speak about NATO or NATO. For Ukrainians, it's very important. Of course, it's our decision, decisions of allies to decide where we are. But are you willing to get into it? Yes, but the most important thing, the most important thing for people in Ukraine, which are under each day's attacks to have really strong security guarantees. Net NATO is the best, but weapon is very important. Allies on our side is very important. And between us, for us, bilateral security guarantees between me and President Trump is very important. I don't know.

19:53We didn't speak with details about it. But this is the most important document because the United States is very strong.

20:00Ben Meiselas:Then Peter Doocy from Fox asks Zelensky a question. What do you see as the biggest difference in diplomacy between Trump and Biden? You'll see Zelensky answers the question again professionally because Biden was the president for those four years. Trump's the president now. Biden can't end the war because he's no longer the president. Like reading between the lines of what Zelensky says is very smart. But Trump's president. So he's the one who can end it now. So do you want to end it? And then Trump, of course, because he's an immature little baby, petulant baby, no offense to immature petulant babies.

20:34Ben Meiselas:Trump goes, one is extremely competent and one's grossly incompetent. Here, play this clip. Right behind you. When we were in Israel with President Trump earlier in the week, we heard a lot about the difference in diplomacy between President Trump and President Joe Biden before him. What do you see as the biggest difference in diplomacy between President Trump and President Biden? President Trump has a big chance now to finish this war. President Biden now is not a president, so he doesn't have a chance to finish this war. And President Trump is really showed for the world that he can manage ceasefire in the Middle East.

21:23And that's why I hope that he will do this. and we will also have such big success. For Ukraine, it's a big chance. And I hope that President Trump can manage it. I would say the biggest difference is one is extremely competent and the other one is grossly incompetent. Mr. President.

21:43Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump claims that we're getting paid for the ammunition and missiles and everything else we are sending to the European Union. You mean to NATO. Here, play this clip. Money, we're getting paid for the, you know, ammunition and missiles and everything else that we're sending to the European Union, but to NATO. But it's very similar. If you look at the countries, I mean, it's very similar. Now, after this press conference, the White House Press Secretary in Communications Director was asked, does the United States plan to meet with Putin in Hungary? And when a reporter asked where the plan came from to potentially meet in Hungary with Viktor Orban, the White House responded.

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22:27Ben Meiselas:This is a real response to the reporter's question. Your mama did. And then the White House Communications Director, Stephen Chung, said, your mom. And then Caroline Levitt said, your mom gave me the plans. As this account says, the government of the United States of America currently speaks in the voice of two morons who don't know how to form a your mom joke. And meanwhile, the first video clip I showed you at the outset of this is a real thing that's being proposed by Russia as part of their plan to stop Donald Trump from issuing sanctions and for Trump to turn against Ukraine. The Kremlin envoy proposed that the Putin-Trump tunnel, they'd call it, link Russia and the U.S.

23:10Ben Meiselas:Russia and the United States should build a Putin-Trump rail tunnel under the Bering Strait to link the countries, a Kremlin envoy suggested. The proposal by Dmitriev, Putin's investment envoy and head of Russia's sovereign wealth fund, talks about a joint construction of this$8 billion funded by Moscow and international partners to link the United States and Russia together. and Dmitriev has been meeting with Anna Paulina Luna and speaking with Republican Congress members to talk about widespread trade between the U.S. and Russia as opposed to sanctions against Russia. There you have it, folks.

23:55Ben Meiselas:That was what went down in the White House today. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers.

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