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Episode Title Trump Loses It in AM as Hearing Goes Off the Rails
Episode Description Ben Meiselas reports on a tumultuous morning for Donald Trump, marked by Attorney General Pam Bondi’s chaotic testimony before the House Judiciary Committee and the unprecedented shutdown of airspace over El Paso due to a conflict between the Department of Defense and the FAA.
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Key Themes and Discussions
- Trump’s Morning Crisis
- Attorney General Pam Bondi's Testimony
- Bondi appeared before the House Judiciary Committee.
- Her behavior was described as "unhinged," characterized by shouting and refusal to engage with survivors present.
- Key moments included her responding angrily to questions about indictments related to Jeffrey Epstein.
- Airspace Shutdown
- The Department of Defense's decision to close airspace over El Paso for 10 days was linked to laser testing against drones.
- The abrupt shutdown and subsequent reversal by the FAA was noted as unprecedented in American history.
- Confusion arose from lack of communication between the DOD and the FAA regarding safety measures.
- Job Market and Economic Indicators
- Discussion on job numbers for January, highlighting discrepancies in data collection due to weather.
- Notable downward revisions for job creation in 2025 were presented, indicating a significant gap from originally reported figures.
- Skepticism expressed regarding the validity of job creation claims by the Trump regime.
- Trump’s Social Media Activity
- Amid ongoing controversies, Trump attempted to shift focus by posting photos with celebrities to suggest his popularity within the Black community.
- This action was seen as an attempt to divert attention from negative news.
- Pam Bondi's Hearing Highlights
- Emotional interactions with Congress members, particularly Congresswoman Jayapal, who addressed the victims of Epstein's actions.
- Bondi's refusal to apologize to survivors was criticized, with accusations of a cover-up regarding Epstein’s co-conspirators.
- Chaotic exchanges underscored the tense atmosphere of the hearing and Bondi's defensive posture.
- Broader Implications
- The discussion connected the hearing and airspace controversy to larger themes of accountability, governance, and the treatment of victims in the justice system.
- Comments on the FBI's handling of recent cases were made, emphasizing perceived dysfunction within government agencies.
- Tragic Events in Canada
- The episode concluded with reflections on a horrific school shooting in Tumblr Ridge, British Columbia, expressing condolences and solidarity with affected communities.
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Closing Remarks
- The episode featured a mixture of serious political analysis, emotional responses to current events, and the signature banter of the Meiselas brothers. It highlighted the importance of accountability in government and the impact of current events on broader societal issues.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Morning Woes
0:54 to 1:30
Analyze the chaotic hearing involving Trump Attorney General Pam Bondi.
“You have Trump Attorney General Pam Bondi testifying before the House Judiciary Committee.”
Unprecedented Airspace Shutdown
1:30 to 2:10
Explore the unusual shutdown of airspace over El Paso and the related conflict.
“And then they reverse course and stop the shutdown of the airspace.”
Job Market Disaster
2:10 to 3:20
Discuss the significant downward revisions in job creation for 2025.
“And then after abruptly shutting down the airspace, they reopen the airspace.”
Trump's Distraction Tactics
3:20 to 4:00
Examine Trump's attempts to divert attention from negative news by showcasing celebrity photos.
“Again, a million less jobs, basically, that were created than were originally reported last year.”
Pam Bondi's Hearing Highlights
4:00 to 6:40
Review the highlights and controversies from Pam Bondi's testimony.
“Well, that then brings us to the hearing of Pam Bondi where she's just been like yelling the whole time.”
Pam Bondi's Unhinged Behavior
10:14 to 14:01
Analyze Pam Bondi's controversial statements and their implications during the hearing.
“Every time I have pre-alcohol before drinks, I notice a difference the next day.”
Discussion on FBI Operations and Public Perception
14:01 to 14:48
Explore the issues surrounding recent FBI operations and public sentiments towards them.
“Did you see that they picked up a guy named Carlos, the delivery guy who was detained in connection with the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping?”
Trump's Approval Ratings Plummet
14:49 to 15:42
Analyzing the latest NBC News poll on Trump's immigration ratings and overall approval.
“You were like, where is this coming from?”
Military Testing and Airspace Shutdown
15:43 to 17:09
Discussing the implications of military testing and FAA communication issues regarding airspace.
“tank in the 30s, 39 % approved, 61 % disapproved.”
Tragic Shooting in British Columbia
17:10 to 18:39
Reflecting on the devastating school shooting incident in Tumblr Ridge, British Columbia.
“that was going to be tested at a military base in the El Paso area.”
Transcript
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0:53Ben Meiselas:This has been an absolutely horrible morning for Donald Trump. You have Trump Attorney General Pam Bondi testifying before the House Judiciary Committee. That hearing has gone off the rails as Pam Bondi's just ranting and raving and yelling in its completely unhinged behavior. She refused to look at the survivors standing behind her. I'll go over what's going down there. We also learned how the Trump regime shut down the airspace over El Paso, Texas, and they shut it down for 10 days. And then they reverse course and stop the shutdown of the airspace. This is unprecedented. It's like never happened in like American history where the airspace over a major city just gets shut down and they shut it down for a 10 day period.
1:45Ben Meiselas:I shouldn't bury the lead right there. So it turns out the Department of Defense got into a fight with the FAA and the Department of Defense was going to be testing these lasers to go after drones in Mexico. And they didn't give notice to the FAA. And when the FAA learned that these laser tests were taking place above El Paso, they then shut it down. They got into a whole fight. Then they reverse course. And then after abruptly shutting down the airspace, they reopen the airspace. We'll go into that as well on this video. And also, it was interesting. You had some decent jobs numbers for the month of January.
2:22Ben Meiselas:Although when you look into the data, it says that they hadn't been able to really collect the data accurately because of the weather. But to me, the bigger story right now is the downward revisions for 2025. This is a disaster. A million less jobs than originally reported by the Trump regime from the new downward revisions. And so 2025 was an absolute bloodbath for jobs. Remember every time the Trump regime would tout a good report, oh, we've created 150 ,000 jobs this month or 175 ,000 jobs this month. And there were some months that clearly were job losers those months. Well, there are four months now that we know where jobs were actually lost.
3:06Ben Meiselas:Overall, almost no jobs were created in all of 2025. And that's why when I hear, oh, there were jobs created in January of 2026, these downward revisions have been so massive. Again, a million less jobs, basically, that were created than were originally reported last year. I know call me a skeptic, but I ain't buying it because I know what the people are really experiencing out there You know, donald trump this morning though, you know, I guess trying to change the topic He doesn't want to talk about any of this He started posting photos of himself and mike tyson and 50 cent and michael jackson and diddy And he posted these photos to say that It shows that black people like him.
3:50Ben Meiselas:I guess that's what he's trying to show by these photos in a video where he's saying, you know, look, the black community likes me because he's posting photos of Michael Jackson, 50 Cent, Mike Tyson, and Diddy. Okay. Well, that then brings us to the hearing of Pam Bondi where she's just been like yelling the whole time. I'll just show you what's going on. I'll do a longer video on Pam Bondi's hearing, But just to give you a sense of it, because it's just so utterly obnoxious and so vile, she refused to look at these survivors and the victims who were there. I showed that in the prior video I did on Jamie Raskin's opening statement.
4:31Ben Meiselas:But here you have Congress member Nadler asking her a basic question. How many of Epstein's co-conspirators have you indicted? She starts like screaming at Nadler. Watch what goes down. Play this clip.
4:42Donald Trump:So I really have just one question for you. How many of Epstein's co-conspirators have you indicted? How many perpetrators are you even investigating?
4:59First, you showed it.
5:02Donald Trump:I find it. How many have you indicted? Excuse me. I'm going to answer the question. Answer my question. No, I'm going to answer the question the way I want to answer the question. Your theatrics are ridiculous. No, you're going to answer the question the way I asked it. Chairman Jordan, I'm not going to get in the gutter with these people. How many of you? I'm gonna answer the question. How many of you indicted? Again, the time belongs. Reclaiming my time. The time belongs. I think it's very interesting. I think it's very interesting. You can reclaim your time. When he talks about they indicted, the president said they indicted him twice.
5:29Donald Trump:Mr. Chairman, please stop the clock. And he indicted. Oh, okay, here we go with these theatrics. The time belongs to the gentleman from New York.
5:37Ben Meiselas:You have Congresswoman Jayapal ask a very basic question. Like, you see the survivors there. Can you turn around and apologize to them and acknowledge them. Watch what takes place. Let's play it. To the survivors in the room, if you are willing, please stand.
5:57Donald Trump:And if you are willing, please raise your hands if you have still not been able to meet with this Department of Justice. Please know for the record that every single survivor has raised their hand. Attorney General Bondi, you apologize to the survivors in your opening statement for what they went through at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein. Will you turn to them now and apologize for what your Department of Justice has put them through with the absolutely unacceptable release of the Epstein files and their information?
6:48I'm going to
6:49Donald Trump:Congresswoman, you sat before Merrick Garland sat in this chair twice. Attorney General Bondi, I'm going to reclaim my time because I asked you a specific question that I would like you to answer, which is, will you turn to the survivors? This is not about anybody that It is about you taking responsibility for your Department of Justice and the harm that it has done to the survivors who are standing right behind you and are waiting for you to turn to them and apologize for what your Department of Justice is. Members get to ask the questions. The witness gets to answer in the way they want to answer.
7:34Donald Trump:That's not accurate, Mr. Chairman. Because she doesn't like the answer. I'm not going to get in the gutter for her theatrics. Mr. Chairman, I have asked Merrick Garland this twice. I'm reclaiming my time, and when I reclaim my time, it is mine. Mr. Chairman, the gentlelady has reclaimed her time. I'm not going to get in the gutter for her theatrics. The time belongs to the gentlelady. The gentlelady has 17 seconds. Thank you. You're not going to answer this question, so let me just say this. Chairman, I'll direct it to you. What a massive cover-up. Mr. Chairman, will you restore her time? The witness is interrupted.
8:06Donald Trump:I'm going to get her with this woman. Stop the time. She's doing theatrics. Let me have my time. The gentlelady from Washington controls the time. The gentlelady has 17 seconds. You can proceed with your final 17 seconds. What a massive cover-up this has been and continues to be. Donald Trump made the release of the Epstein files, the center of his political campaign because he thought it would benefit him. Then you got into office, attorney general, claimed to have a client list. Regular order. Only did them say that there was no list. Your deputy, Todd Blanche, met alone with Elaine Maxwell and transferred her to a minimum security prison.
8:43Donald Trump:And now you continue the cover-up. And I wish that you would turn around to the survivors who are standing right behind you and on a human level. Chairman, chair now recognizes the general professional. I'm what you have done. Time is... I yield back. The general ladies, you have no time to yield back. We appreciate that. We appreciate the thought.
9:03Ben Meiselas:Then you have Pam Bondi attacking Jamie Raskin and saying, you're a washed up lawyer. You're a washed up lawyer. So bizarre. Here play this clip.
9:12Donald Trump:You can let her filibuster all day long, but not on our watch. Not on our time. No way. And I told you about that attorney general before you started. You don't tell me anything. No, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate. You're not even a lawyer. Committee will be in order. I should get back at least 45 seconds. We will give you a few more seconds. I said that already. 45 seconds. Okay. Let's face it. After a night with drinks, I don't bounce back the next day like I used to. I have to make a choice. I can either have a great night or a great next day. That is until I found pre-alcohol.
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10:44Ben Meiselas:checkout for 15 % off. And watch this exchange between Attorney General Pam Bondi and Democratic Congresswoman Lofgren. Again, Pam Bondi's behavior, it's so unhinged. I would say it's so unbecoming of the office, but she's involved in a coverup of a child sex trafficking ring. She's supporting pedos. So what the hell do you expect from somebody like this? Here, play this clip. Attorney General can respond.
11:09Donald Trump:I find it interesting that she keeps going after President Trump, the greatest president in American history. And if they could maintain their composure. This isn't a circus. This is a hearing. I find it interesting she keeps going after Donald Trump. She doesn't say how much money she took from Reid Hoffman, did you? And nor Mr. Chairman, regular order, please. She posted nothing on her X account, on her Twitter account during the Biden years. Gentle lady. Yet now, all of a sudden, question asked. The point of order, there was no question asked the attorney general. She doesn't just get to speak.
11:46Donald Trump:The committee will be in order. I have a point of order, Mr. Chairman. The committee will be in order. Point of order, Mr. Chairman. The gentleman can state her point of order. When a witness attacks... It's not a valid point of order. You've got to state... He hasn't completed her point of order yet. Please let her speak, Mr. Chairman. Let's have some regular order here. Regular order is you've got to state the rule. I am trying to make a point of order that the witness... What rule are you referring to? without responding to a question has attacked me personally. I think it's pathetic that she can't answer the questions and instead has attacked members of the community.
12:16Donald Trump:That is not even close to a point of order. The gentleman from Wisconsin is recognized.
12:19Ben Meiselas:More from Pam Bondi right here. And she's like, how do you attack the greatest president ever? I mean, these are the most pathetic people. Can we just talk about what you're doing, Bondi? You're covering up a child sex trafficking ring, okay? You've turned the Department of Justice into a RICO sex trafficking operation, essentially based on covering up for all these rich, powerful people. Here, play this clip. The time is yours.
12:48Donald Trump:Thank you. First, he brought up the president saying they indicted me twice. They sure did. They tried to impeach him twice. And you, Mr. Nadler, were one of the leads on the impeachment. I was on the other side. I lived that with you. During impeachment, you said the president conspired, sought foreign interference in the 2016 election. Robert Mueller found no evidence, none, of foreign interference in 2016. Have you apologized to President Trump? Have you apologized to President Trump, all of you who participated in those impeachment hearings against Donald Trump?
13:26Ben Meiselas:And I'll just show you that powerful moment at the beginning where Congresswoman Jayapal asked the survivors to stand up. Let's play this clip right here. To the survivors in the room, if you are willing, please stand.
13:44Donald Trump:And if you are willing, please raise your hands if you have still not been able to meet with this Department of Justice. Please know for the record that every single survivor has raised their hand.
14:00Ben Meiselas:I think it's also interesting to note that while we talk about how she's disgracing the DOJ right there, just what and just how bad the FBI is being run right now by Kash Patel. Did you see that they picked up a guy named Carlos, the delivery guy who was detained in connection with the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping? And then his mother-in-law first spoke. It's like, well, my son-in-law is nothing. We don't even know who Nancy Guthrie is. What are you even doing? Why are you taking my son-in-law?" And then we heard from Carlos and Carlos was like, dude, I was just driving my car. And they started following me.
14:40Ben Meiselas:I don't even know who the Guthries are. This is what the Trump FBI has become. A complete and utter embarrassment. Here, play this clip. No, I don't know anything.
14:50Donald Trump:You were like, where is this coming from? How did they come up on you? I don't know. Like what, were you just driving around? Yeah, working.
15:12Ben Meiselas:Now, the latest NBC News poll has Trump's rating on immigration tumbling as Americans lose confidence in his shouldn't even be his top issue. That's just such a corporate news framing of it in a double digit shift. Forty nine percent of adults strongly disapprove how Trump has handled border security and immigration up from thirty eight percent strong disapproval last summer and thirty four percent in April. And then his overall approval rating from this NBC poll again in the tank in the 30s, 39 % approved, 61 % disapproved. This is how MSNOW, our friends at MSNOW were reporting it this morning about what went down with this temporary closure.
16:00Ben Meiselas:It was supposed to be for 10 days over El Paso, where they shut down the airport there and they shut down all of the airspace because the Department of Defense was going to be testing lasers as perhaps part of the invasion that Trump's been threatening of Mexico, and they didn't alert the FAA. And the FAA found that these lasers were going to be tested, anti-drone lasers in the United States. Like, well, if you do those lasers, you're going to be shooting down our planes. Watch how this is described on MS Now. Here, play this clip. Now, a congressional official with knowledge of the matter is telling MS Now the cause of the shutdown was a lack of communication between the Pentagon and the FAA.
16:43Ben Meiselas:The official told us the FAA and DOD are, quote, not in clear communications with each other. Going on to say FAA shut down because of their concerns about DOD counter drone activity in the area. DOD says that isn't necessary. The two need to talk and get on the same page. As for the reason behind all of this, a congressional official is telling MSNOW the U.S. military was planning to test a high-energy laser that could be used against drones that was going to be tested at a military base in the El Paso area. The source said that the FAA shut down the airspace due to safety concerns. And then finally, I just want to say that our hearts go out to all the people in Canada right now, in Tumblr Ridge.
17:32Ben Meiselas:For our American audience, I hope everybody knows what's going on here because it's incredibly tragic. a horrible shooting at a high school in British Columbia in Tumblr Ridge. Here's the statement from Prime Minister Carney, and nine dead, if you include the shooter, 10 dead, over 25 injured. Prime Minister Carney says, I'm devastated by today's horrific shooting in Tumblr Ridge, British Columbia. My prayers and deepest condolences are with the families and friends who have lost loved ones to these horrific acts of violence. I joined Canadians and grieving with those whose lives have been changed irreversibly today in gratitude for the courage and selflessness of the first responders who risk their lives to protect their fellow citizens.
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18:14Ben Meiselas:Our ability to come together in crisis is the best of our country, our empathy, our unity, and our compassion for each other. I have connected with Premier Eby to express my condolences and with the ministers of public safety, Gary Ansandanskari, who is coordinating the federal response. Our officials are in close contact with their counterparts to ensure the community is fully supported as best we can. The government of Canada stands with all British Columbians as they confront this horrible tragedy. And our hearts go out to everybody in Canada today, especially those in Tumblr in British Columbia.
18:51Ben Meiselas:It's been a major priority for us to launch Midas Canada and all of the Canadians who I'm friends with. And it's all of you and the Maple Midas. So our heart goes out to you today. That's all. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers.
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