Trump Loses it on Air Force One as Collapse Accelerates!!!

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Episode Title

Trump Loses it on Air Force One as Collapse Accelerates!!!

Hosts

Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas

Episode Overview In this episode, Ben Meiselas discusses the ongoing turmoil surrounding Donald Trump, focusing on the implications of the Epstein files, Trump's controversial social media behavior, and the political backlash he faces.

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Key Topics Discussed

  1. Trump and the Epstein Files
  2. Trump is implicated in ongoing discussions related to Jeffrey Epstein, with 38,000 mentions of him in released documents.
  3. New revelations about connections between Trump’s administration and Epstein, including:
  4. U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick's continued relationship with Epstein post-2012.
  5. Pentagon officials appearing in Epstein's documents.
  6. Trump’s historical association with Mar-a-Lago, linked to Epstein's trafficking activities.
  1. Political Climate at the Winter Olympics
  2. U.S. delegation, including J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio, received a hostile reception in Milan, with loud booing and protests against ICE.
  3. Social media backlash related to Trump's posts, including a controversial photo of the Obamas.
  1. Trump's Controversial Statements
  2. Trump’s non-apology regarding the backlash over racially charged social media posts.
  3. His insistence on being the "least racist" president and his defense of his controversial public persona.
  4. Discussion of Trump’s IRS lawsuit for $10 billion, claiming illegal tax data breaches, with skepticism about his motivations.
  1. Gerrymandering and Political Strategy
  2. Trump’s attempts to influence redistricting in Virginia and other states backfired, potentially benefiting Democrats.
  3. Virginia Governor Spanberger's new bill on redistricting aimed to counteract Republican gains.

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Key Takeaways

  • Epstein Connection: Trump's past ties to Epstein continue to surface, raising questions about his leadership and moral standing.
  • Public Perception: The episode highlights the adverse public reaction to Trump and his associates during the Winter Olympics, illustrating a shift in political sentiment.
  • Media Strategy: Trump's approach to social media continues to provoke criticism and controversy, suggesting a disconnect with public expectations.
  • Political Fallout: The Democratic response to gerrymandering showcases strategic moves to counteract Republican advantages.

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Concluding Thoughts The MeidasTouch Podcast episode encapsulates the complex web of Trump's political actions and controversies. Through a mix of humor and critical analysis, the Meiselas brothers engage listeners in a discussion about the current state of American democracy and the accountability of its leaders.

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Chapters

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Amazon Music Ad-Free Experience

1:26 to 2:49

Discussion on the ad-free experience with Amazon Music podcasts.

“See terms at Venmo.me slash stash terms.”

Trump's Ties to Epstein

2:56 to 4:28

Discussion about Trump's connections to Epstein and related scandals.

“Match with a licensed therapist today at Talkspace.com.”

Trump's Behavior on Air Force One

4:28 to 6:18

Analysis of Trump's controversial behavior and remarks on Air Force One.

“Shifting gears for a moment to what's going on in Milan right now, where there is the Winter Olympics.”

Responses to Trump's Rhetoric

6:18 to 7:42

Examination of Trump's responses to criticism and media coverage.

“So let me just show you what went down here.”

IRS Lawsuit and Tax Claims

7:42 to 10:00

Discussion on Trump's lawsuit against the IRS and its implications.

“So what's your message to many Americans who are very offended by you posting a photo with the former president of the United States and the former first lady's heads photoshopped on apes?”

Racism Allegations and Media Reactions

10:00 to 14:05

Analysis of allegations of racism against Trump and media responses.

“Besson, because the IRS is under the portfolio of the Treasury Department, pay him$10 billion.”

Racist Meme Incident and Political Reactions

14:05 to 15:40

Discussion on a controversial meme posted by the president's staff and its fallout.

“Tim Scott, the senator, obviously African-American, said he was praying it was fake because it was the most racist thing he'd ever seen out of the White House.”

Redistricting and Its Implications for Democrats

15:40 to 16:40

Analysis of Virginia's redistricting efforts and how they counteract Trump's plan.

“the other seats that Republicans are picking up in other districts.”

Governor Spanberger's Address on Redistricting

16:40 to 17:44

Clip and discussion on Governor Spanberger's remarks about Virginia's redistricting.

“is the one that will enable us to move forward with this reference I was gonna to go in order but you're right there There you have it, folks.”
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3:04Ben Meiselas:It's called Karma, Donald, and the walls are closing in. So not only is Trump on the Epstein files 38 ,000 times in the documents that have already been released, there's 3 million documents that are still missing. We're now even learning about the deeper ties that his administration has even more than we knew the day a day or so ago. U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick not only continued the relationship with Epstein well after he said he stopped talking to him, but apparently they were business partners together. They entered into an investment for a company called Adfin together in December of 2012, four days.

3:45Ben Meiselas:They were apparently hanging out with each other and with apparently Lutnick's children were on the island as well or with them. And then they entered into this deal to invest in a company called Adfin, where they were both partners on. We're learning that the Pentagon Deputy Secretary Feinberg and a company he co-founded appear in hundreds of documents in the Epstein files, including personal emails sent by Epstein and whistleblower emails alleging a vast money laundering scheme. We're learning that Navy Secretary John Phelan is named on the flight manifest found among the documents that were produced there.

4:24Ben Meiselas:So yes, and Donald Trump's appeared 38 ,000 times. Let's be clear about that. Shifting gears for a moment to what's going on in Milan right now, where there is the Winter Olympics. The United States delegations getting absolutely booed. J.D. Vance, Rubio, Usha Vance getting mercilessly booed. There were protests there against ICE because it was believe that the Trump regime may be sending ICE officials to guard J.D. Vance when he's in Italy, when he's in Milan, and maybe some of the athletes. And that's what the Trump regime said at first. And now they're saying, no, it's actually DHS special agents, Department of Homeland Security special agents out there.

5:10Ben Meiselas:The people are doing F ICE chants, booing mercilessly J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio and all of them. You have people doing urine protests against ICE, like the British American Olympian Gus Kenworthy. He's a freestyle skier, and he posted urine saying F ICE on his Instagram account, and that's gone mega viral. And then you had Donald Trump. Two nights ago, he was posting the photo or the video of former President Obama and former First lady, Michelle Obama, with their faces photoshopped on apes. And then Donald Trump's regime first said, oh, that's just Donald Trump being funny because he's saying this is like the Lion King movie and he's the king of the jungle.

6:00Ben Meiselas:And so that's why he posted that photo. And he did it, but that's why he posted it. Then they blamed it on a staffer and said, oh, Trump didn't know what he was doing. He had nothing to do with it. Even though it was posted at midnight, apparently there are staffers were making the post for him at midnight. But then Donald Trump said, no, no, no, I was the one who did it. So let me just show you what went down here. Donald Trump was an Air Force one. Of course, he was going to Palm Beach, right? Going back to the site of the sex trafficking at Mar-a - Lago, right? And that was the site. I'm not saying things that are like, oh, Ben, you got to say allegedly.

6:36Ben Meiselas:No, I mean, undisputed fact, Mar-a - Lago was one of the sites where child sex trafficking was connected to, right? Virginia Giuffre worked at Mar-a-Lago. She worked at the spa, and that's where she was recruited by Epstein in sex traffic. And she tragically died by suicide recently. It's horrific, horrific stuff. And then we know that Trump's Mar-a-Lago would send the spa to Epstein, and Epstein would expose himself to the girls. And that was one of the ways he would try to recruit girls to this. Again, that's just something that's known right now, and that's a horrific fact. But Donald Trump says he's vindicated, even though he says Epstein's a great guy who likes women on the younger side, even though Donald Trump says he grabbed, Donald Trump said that he grabs women by their vaginas without their consent because he's rich and he gets away with it.

7:20Ben Meiselas:He said that he is, when he owns beauty pageants, he gets to look at girls naked non-consensually and inspect them. He goes, because he becomes an inspector. Sick, sick, sick human being, evil, evil, evil human being. Anyway, when Donald Trump was on Air Force One, how'd I get there? I was serious. He was going to the crime scene, Mar-a-Lago. That's, ah, yes. Donald Trump is asked by a reporter. So what's your message to many Americans who are very offended by you posting a photo with the former president of the United States and the former first lady's heads photoshopped on apes? Would you want to apologize?

7:58Ben Meiselas:Here's what Donald Trump says.

7:59Donald Trump:What's your message to the many Americans who were offended by the video? You didn't want to tell me what happened? I didn't know about it, so I mean, it went up. I really have no message. All I know is, here's my message, that our country has never been in a position like this. We were a laughingstock all over the world, and now we're a country that's respected more than we've ever been respected before. If you go back a year and a half ago, our country was a laughingstock, and now we're respected all over the world. like probably almost never before. I would say maybe like never before. And, you know, it's

8:34Ben Meiselas:no apology. Again, he's a sick human. He's evil. He's horrible. He's trash. Should be nonpartisan. We should all agree. That's just a real trash human, right? I mean, he's just a bad, just let's, let's not even talk politics. Let's just speak basic morality. That's a horrible human being right there. Donald Trump is then asked about J.D. Vance and America being booed in Milan. Here play this clip.

8:58Donald Trump:Did you see that the vice president got booed during the opening ceremony though? What do you make of that sort of frosty? The vice president got booed during the opening ceremony? What do you make of that frosty? No, is that chill? Yeah. It's surprising because people like him. Well, I mean, he is in a foreign country, you know, in all fairness, but he doesn't get booed in this country.

9:19Ben Meiselas:Oh, and then Donald Trump wants everybody to know though, he's the least racist. No, there's never been a president less racist than him. That's clearly what people who aren't racist all go around saying that they're the least racist. So if he says it, he says it. Here, play this clip.

9:36Donald Trump:Black voters have been great to me. I've been great to them. And I am, by the way, the least racist president you've had in a long time, as far as I'm concerned. We have, I've had a great relationship. Think of what I've done. Okay, ridiculous.

9:51Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is then asked about the fact that he sued the IRS for$10 billion. He sued his own government. And now he's going to have the DOJ and Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, because the IRS is under the portfolio of the Treasury Department, pay him$10 billion. He's going to give himself a$10 billion payout from taxpayer money, stealing our taxpayer dollars because he's claiming that he was part of an IRS data breach and his tax returns were leaked in 2021 as part of a data breach involving 400 to 500 ,000 other people's personal tax returns. So he's suing for$10 billion. And here's how he describes it.

10:30Ben Meiselas:Play this clip. Mr.

10:31Donald Trump:President, you're suing the federal government about your taxes. I'm wondering, is it fair to ask the American people to pay for that? Well, anything I win, I'm going to give 100 % to charity. But that still takes it from the American people. No, no, because they give money to charity. They give away$40 billion a year to charity, our government. You know, our government gives away$40 billion plus a year to charity. So anything I win from that. But when they go and release your tax returns, which is totally illegal, people go to jail for that. And they've already found a person that did it. And as you know, they got in big trouble.

11:09Donald Trump:and based upon that and other things we did and we did sue and anything i win i'm giving 100 to charity really good very very good and respected charities what do you mean no because

11:24Ben Meiselas:they're giving money to charity what does that even mean you're stealing taxpayer dollars and you know his ch assume it goes to charity you understand what his charity scheme is right his charity scheme is he's gonna settle with the ira let's just assume it goes to charity which i don't think it even will. He'll settle with the IRS. He'll claim a personal physical injury under the IRS code so that he can take a personal injury settlement. He'll claim emotional trauma is my guess. So he won't pay any taxes on the money. Then what he'll do is if he donates the money to a charity, he'll then use that as a deduction to then roll over year by year based on the income that he's now making by selling off semiconductor chips and other classified information from the United States to UAE, the Saudis, Qatar, whoever, our foreign adversaries, they are getting our classified information.

12:18Ben Meiselas:Trump's getting richer and richer. He's made 1.5 or$2 billion more that we know about right now. He's probably made a lot more than that. That's hidden in secret Qatari bank accounts. I don't know that. I'm giving you my opinion. This is all First Amendment speech, opinion speech, right? I'm allowed to articulate. This video is hereby protected by my First Amendment right to give you opinion. So let's just clarify that as well. And then Donald Trump will roll over, in my opinion, the charitable giving as a deduction, and he'll say for the rest of his life, he doesn't have to pay taxes. So So that's his scheme there when he says whatever.

12:57Ben Meiselas:Okay. Here he's asked by a reporter, well, you frequently criticize Biden for not knowing what was going on in his name. But now you claim you don't know people who make social media posts on your behalf. Here, play this clip.

13:10Donald Trump:You frequently criticize Joe Biden for not knowing what is going on in his name. This racist video that was posted on your social media. A hell of a lot better than you do. You don't know what's going on. I know what's going on. No, Joe Biden didn't have a clue, but we know everything. By the way, even Laura Ingraham wasn't buying what the Trump regime was selling yesterday.

13:32Ben Meiselas:And she's like, can you really, this is what she was saying to Caroline Leavitt, are you really going to throw a staffer under the bus? You're playing this clip.

13:38Donald Trump:It's been issue after issue at the same time. And I know you've been dealing with this today, but Donald Trump's true social post set off a firestorm online. I only noticed it this morning because I was writing, but it was a video that he had posted portraying Michelle and Barack Obama with an ape motif. And I guess there were other politicians who were portrayed in other animal motifs as an Internet meme. Tim Scott, the senator, obviously African-American, said he was praying it was fake because it was the most racist thing he'd ever seen out of the White House. The president should remove it.

14:15Donald Trump:Caroline, I know the president did remove it, deleted it, but it was up for, I think, 12 hours or something like that. How did this happen? And can you really throw a staffer under the bus for this? Well, look, Laura, you know, it was a meme that was posted by a staffer on the president's true social account. It was from a Lion King video depicting, as you pointed out, different Democrats as different animals. I think Kamala Harris was depicted as a turtle in this video meme. The president did take it down. He spoke with lawmakers today out of respect for them, including Senator Tim Scott. The post was removed.

14:52Donald Trump:But leave it to the leftist media, of course, to talk about this all day, rather than talk about the fact that the Dow has broken over 50 ,000 points for the first time in our nation's history.

15:04Ben Meiselas:Caroline Levitt's pure trash also. I mean, utterly evil. Then finally, let me bring you to Virginia right here, where you have Virginia Governor Spanberger signing the bill allowing Virginia to vote on redistricting. 10 to 1, they're going to wipe out four Republican seats in Virginia. And so Donald Trump's gerrymander plan totally backfired when he wanted to rig the midterms and do the mid-decade redistricting. So he tried to obviously do it in Texas. They picked up five seats there. California Governor Newsom fought back, picked up five seats there, neutralized Texas. And now you have Democrats in Virginia picking up four seats there to counteract the other seats that Republicans are picking up in other districts.

15:46Ben Meiselas:Then Democrats are still considering it in other states. Democrats are going to end up picking up more seats through this gerrymandering process than Trump did. And this is a fight that Trump started. And as you'll hear, the new governor of Virginia, Governor Spanberger, who we interviewed a lot during the campaign, here she sets out, you know, we're doing this to save democracy. Here, play this clip.

16:09Donald Trump:All right, on this one, our fourth and final one is the redistricting amendment. This is the work of the legislature. It's recognizing that Virginia has the opportunity and the responsibility to be responsive in the face of efforts across the country to change maps that Virginia is moving forward with this temporary and responsive effort to redistrict. now there I know there's many press in the room there are multiple steps this is the one that will enable us to move forward with this reference I was gonna to go in order but you're right there

17:30Ben Meiselas:There you have it, folks. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. We're almost at 6 million, huh? We're like 70 ,000 or so subscribers away. So hit subscribe. Help us get there. We appreciate you so much. Have a good one. Want to stay plugged in? Become a subscriber to our sub stack at MidasPlus.com. You'll get daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski, ad-free episodes of our podcast, and more exclusive content only available at MidasPlus.com.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump continuing to collapse as the combination of the Epstein files, his terrible conduct, and his awful decision are completely tearing his term apart.

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