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Podcast Episode Summary: Trump Loses It over Congress War Vote!!!
Episode Overview In this episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosted by Ben Meiselas, the main focus is on Donald Trump’s reaction to Congress' vote on a War Powers Resolution aimed at halting his "unlawful war" in Iran. This episode highlights the bipartisan efforts in Congress, the political ramifications of the war declaration, and the ongoing tensions surrounding military operations.
Key Themes and Discussions
- Bipartisan Congressional Action
- War Powers Resolution: The episode discusses a bipartisan initiative led by Democratic Senator Tim Kaine and Republican Senator Rand Paul to introduce a resolution that would require Trump to seek congressional authorization for military actions in Iran.
- Threat of Veto: Trump has indicated he would veto any such resolution and claims to have the authority to conduct military operations without congressional approval.
- Trump's Characterization of the Conflict
- Terminology Shift: Trump and his supporters are attempting to frame the military action against Iran as a "special military operation," a term reminiscent of Russian justifications for military actions, particularly the invasion of Ukraine.
- Denial of War Declaration: MAGA Republicans argue that since it’s not officially termed a war, a declaration of war is unnecessary.
- Congressional Responses
- Responses from MAGA Republicans: Some members of Congress, including MAGA Mike Johnson and Senator Joni Ernst, defend Trump’s actions and downplay the necessity of congressional authorization.
- Arguments Against Congressional Approval: They argue that previous conflicts, such as those in Afghanistan and Iraq, have set a precedent that military action can occur without explicit congressional approval.
- Concerns Over Military Strategy
- Unclear Objectives: Several senators express concerns about the lack of clarity regarding the administration's military objectives and the potential for increasing American troop involvement.
- Fatalities: The episode notes the first confirmed fatalities from the conflict, emphasizing the human cost of the military actions.
- Criticism of Administration's Justifications
- Lack of Justification: Senators like Ruben Gallego and Blumenthal criticize the administration for not providing sufficient justification for the war, labeling it as illegal.
- Confusion Among Lawmakers: Despite classified briefings, senators express confusion over the rationale for military actions, indicating a disconnection between the administration and Congress.
- International and Domestic Implications
- Ongoing Military Actions: The podcast also mentions recent U.S. military operations in Ecuador, raising questions about U.S. military involvement in Latin America.
- Political Context: The episode highlights how these military decisions are intertwined with political narratives and alliances, particularly concerning Trump’s relations with foreign leaders.
Key Takeaways
- Constitutional Authority: The episode emphasizes the constitutional requirement for congressional approval for war, questioning the legality of current military operations.
- Political Division: The discussion showcases the deepening political divide regarding military authority and the role of Congress in matters of war.
- Human Cost of War: The podcast highlights the tragic loss of life resulting from the conflict, stressing the importance of accountability in military engagements.
Conclusion The episode encapsulates a tense moment in U.S. politics as Congress grapples with the implications of military action in Iran while facing internal divisions. The Meiselas brothers combine humor with serious discourse, urging listeners to understand the gravity of the situation and to engage in democratic processes.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Response to Congressional War Vote
1:23 to 2:12
Discussion on Trump's reaction to Congressional moves to limit his war powers.
“Donald Trump is panicking as Congress is trying to shut down his unlawful war against Iran on a bipartisan basis.”
War or Special Operation? MAGA's Narrative
2:17 to 3:20
Exploring the term 'special military operation' used by Trump's supporters.
“Also, I don't think we even need a war resolution act, given that Congress has the authority when it comes to declaring war.”
Congressional Debate on War Authorization
3:21 to 5:37
Analysis of the Congressional discussions regarding war authorization.
“So they're saying it's not a war, then we don't need a declaration of war, and we don't need any type of war resolution at all.”
White House War Powers Letter
5:40 to 7:31
Examining Trump's letter to Congress about military actions in Iran.
“President, I write to apprise you of military action taken on February 28th against the government of the Islamic public of Iran.”
MAGA Republicans on War Powers
7:42 to 10:46
Discussion on how MAGA Republicans frame the war powers debate.
“So then they go, you just said it's a war.”
Confusing Justifications for War
13:02 to 14:02
Highlighting contradictions in justifications given for military actions.
“So we had to strike Iran before Israel struck Iran because Iran would retaliate the United States if Israel struck Iran.”
Analysis of Political Statements on Iran
14:02 to 16:48
Explore the conflicting political narratives regarding U.S. involvement in Iran.
“And also you have Marco Rubio yesterday also flip-flopping or just saying the exact opposite of what he previously said.”
Senate Perspectives on War Powers Resolution
16:49 to 20:52
Delve into senators' views on the legality and implications of military actions.
“You want to prevent it from being eminent.”
U.S. Military Operations and Ecuador
20:53 to 23:06
Discuss U.S. military activities in Ecuador and their implications for foreign relations.
“It will likely fail and we shouldn't be voting to proceed to other pieces of legislation until we get a debate on this deeply unpopular, immoral and illegal war with Iran.”
Upcoming Congressional Votes on War Powers
23:07 to 24:01
Learn about the timeline and significance of upcoming votes on military action.
“And so my query is, is Donald Trump helping Naboa and Naboa's family crack down on basically the competing cartels?”
Transcript
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1:23Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is panicking as Congress is trying to shut down his unlawful war against Iran on a bipartisan basis. Democrats and Republicans in the Senate, led by Democratic Senator Tim Kaine and Republican Senator Rand Paul, and in the House of Representatives, Republican Thomas Massey and Democratic Congressmember Ro Khanna, They are working to put forward a war resolution act, which would require Donald Trump to get authorization of Congress to continue this unlawful war against Iran. And if Donald Trump does not get congressional authorization, which he was required to do, frankly, anyway, under the Constitution, the war could be shut down.
2:12Ben Meiselas:Now, Donald Trump has threatened that he would veto any war resolution act. And he has said that he would ignore it. Also, I don't think we even need a war resolution act, given that Congress has the authority when it comes to declaring war. And Donald Trump requires congressional authorization to declare a war in general. But regardless, this War Powers Act in the 1970s allows Congress to assert its authority over these areas. And that's precisely what these Democrats and Republicans are doing on a bipartisan basis. But Donald Trump is fighting it. Donald Trump has sent his MAGA Republican sycophants out there now to say this is not a war against Iran.
3:01Ben Meiselas:This is actually a special military operation. And if that term sounds familiar to you and it sounds, I don't know, Russian, yeah, that's what Putin called his invasion of Ukraine, a special military operation. And that's essentially how Donald Trump and MAGA Mike and the MAGA Republicans are now trying to refer to this invasion against Iran as a special military operation. So they're saying it's not a war, then we don't need a declaration of war, and we don't need any type of war resolution at all. So let me show you what went down. here you have mega mike johnson running away from manu raju uh when he was asked about any type of war powers resolution mega mike says uh it's an operation it's an operation it's not a war it's
3:54Donald Trump:not a war here play this clip this is war right now i think it's an operation
4:14Ben Meiselas:Here you have MAGA Republican Senator Joni Ernst also saying, well, Manu Raju was asking, well, why shouldn't Congress have voted to authorize this war in Iran? Why isn't that a Congress thing. And she goes, well, try to name for me any time Congress required where there was congressional authorization for war. And Manu Raju is like Afghanistan and Iraq. They both had congressional authorization. She's like, oh, well, name me something else. I mean, those are the two recent wars that got congressional authorization. I want you to see what goes down here. Play this clip. So why shouldn't have Congress voted to authorize this war before it began, given that
4:57Donald Trump:service members are losing their lives over this. Yes.
5:00Ben Meiselas:And I take that very personally. Obviously, I have served. My daughter serves on active duty now. But I would love for anyone to name the last
5:08Donald Trump:time Congress authorized operations or strikes in other countries. Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq and Afghanistan. This is serious. And we're just a few days in.
5:17Ben Meiselas:So then the White House sent a letter purportedly under the War Powers Act, where they're asserting, you know, it's within, you know, 48 hours or two days of the war beginning, but they're saying it's not a war. And again, they're saying it is a special military operation. This was the letter sent by Trump to Congress or whoever wrote it on Trump's behalf to Congress, probably Elbridge, Kobe, or, you know, someone on Marco Rubio's team. March 2nd, 2026, here's what it said. Dear Mr. President, I write to apprise you of military action taken on February 28th against the government of the Islamic public of Iran.
6:01Ben Meiselas:I have separately notified you of changes in the global posture of United States forces in the Middle East in response to threats emanating from the then ongoing tensions with Iran. As I previously communicated to Congress, Iran remains one of the largest, if not the largest state sponsors of terrorism in the world. Despite the success of Operation Midnight Hammer, the Iranian regime continues to seek the means to possess and employ nuclear weapons. Its array of ballistic crews, anti-ship, and other missiles pose a direct threat and are attacking United States forces, commercial vessels, and civilians, as well as those of our allies and partners.
6:41Ben Meiselas:Again, there's no mention here of war or the fact that there were imminent strikes. And here's how it's detailed further in this letter by Trump. Although the United States desires a quick and enduring peace, it is not possible at this time to know the full scope and duration of military operations that may be necessary. As such, United States forces remain postured to take further action as necessary and appropriate to address further threats. I directed the military action consistent with my responsibility to protect Americans and United States interests. I'm providing this report as part of my efforts to keep Congress fully informed, consistent with the War Powers Resolution.
7:27Ben Meiselas:And again, he's trying to say that it's actually not a war. So here you have Mark Wayne Mullen, MAGA Republican senator, also trying to say, you know, this is not a war. No, no war is taking place. But he says it's a war. So then they go, you just said it's a war. He's like, oh, I must have misspoke. That's not really a war. Here, play this clip.
7:48Donald Trump:Are there measures being taken not to eliminate other possible alternatives to leadership? This is war and we're taking out the threat. And if you're part of the threat, then you have your target. what we'd call not all the arrows, but going after the archers. You'll concede this is war. We haven't declared war. They declared war on us. They called it war. What I was saying, okay, well, that was a misspoke. What I was saying, that they declared war on us, but war is ugly. It always has been ugly. But we're taking out a regime that's been trying to attack us for quite some time. But you're not conceiving this as war.
8:29Donald Trump:We have declared war. So if we haven't declared war, then I don't see that. The president hasn't asked us to declare war yet, but they have declared war on us. We're just simply fighting the threat that's been at our door for 47 years. I've already answered your question.
8:46Ben Meiselas:Then you've got MAGA Mike Johnson over here saying that if you are trying to move forward a war powers motion to restrict Donald Trump's ability to engage in this unlawful war. You're a traitor, is basically what MAGA is saying. The idea that a few colleagues would try to move a war powers motion to the floor is dangerous. It plays into the hand of the enemy. So if you support the Constitution, Trump has ordered MAGA, Mike, and sycophants to say, that means you support terrorists and you support Iran. That's what they're going with. right out of the playbook, right out of the neocon playbook that Donald Trump said, frankly, worse than the neocon, like way worse than the neocon playbook.
9:31Ben Meiselas:The neocon playbook was bad. This is way worse. And Trump's whole campaign was like, we're against that. Like y 'all are that times 100.
9:39Donald Trump:Anyway, play this clip is squarely within the law. He used his discretion and his authority and the intelligence that he had exquisite as it was, as is demonstrated by its effectiveness. And he did what he should have done as a commander in chief. The idea that a few colleagues here would try to move a war powers motion and resolution to the floor right now is dangerous. Imagine a scenario where Congress would vote to tell the commander in chief that he was no longer allowed to complete this mission. That would be a very dangerous thing. You see that Iran is firing almost seemingly indiscriminately at targets.
10:16Donald Trump:They're trying to intimidate America. They're trying to test our resolve. And the idea that there's some members of this legislative body that would play along with that plays right under the hands of the enemy. And I think it's shameful. I do believe we have the votes to defeat it. I certainly hope we do because we have lots of troops, service members in harm's way right now. And the balance of this thing is hanging there. It's been very effective thus far. It needs to be completed. We don't need Congress getting in the way of that.
10:43Ben Meiselas:More from MAGA Mike here. He's asked by the reporter, is there any indication of of like plans? What happens when the war ends, Maga Mike? Like, can you tell us what the hell is going on? Maga Mike doesn't know. Let's play this clip.
10:57Donald Trump:Is there any indication of plans? Representative Scalise said he heard one. Democrats say they're not hearing one. What is what happens when the war ends? What does that look like? And then what does the day after look like? Look, no one can yet determine with any degree of certainty what how this will turn out. We have taken out what appears to be top few layers of leaders and potential leaders who would take over there. It is time for the people of Iran to step up and seize this moment of opportunity for them, the one that they have long awaited to have freedom there. We are encouraging that.
11:30Donald Trump:We're hopeful for that. I think our NATO allies and our other allies around the world are watching with great anticipation and hope. I suspect that the entire world will reach out a hand of encouragement and assistance.
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13:24Donald Trump:They made clear and they've been very consistent from the beginning that the objective, the mission here, the rationale for it is very clear. And very simple. You've heard it articulated over and over and over from the president of the United States, from the secretary of state, from the secretary of war, myself and many others who have said this over and over. I'm not sure why there are lingering questions about this. This is really a very simple matter. It's about the building of ballistic missiles. That's what Iran was engaged in. And they were doing it at a speed and at a scale that was exceeding the ability of our regional allies to respond appropriately.
13:59Donald Trump:This created an imminent and serious threat.
14:02Ben Meiselas:And also you have Marco Rubio yesterday also flip-flopping or just saying the exact opposite of what he previously said. Here's what he said yesterday. Here's what he said the day before. You can play this clip. Yesterday, you told us that Israel was going to strike Iran and that
14:19Donald Trump:that's why we needed to get involved. Today, the president said that Iran was going to get. Yeah, your statement is false. So that's not what I was asked very specifically. Were you there yesterday? Okay. And so the president made the very wise decision. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces. And we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed. And then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that indeed.
14:49Ben Meiselas:You have Maga Mike Johnson has asked Additional questions like, you know, what's the purpose of this all? He's like, we have no ability to get into nation building. We're not the world's policemen, but here we need to do it. Play this clip.
15:04Donald Trump:It is time for the people of Iran to step up and seize this moment of opportunity for them, the one that they have long awaited to have freedom there. We are encouraging that. We're hopeful for that. I think our NATO allies and our other allies around the world are watching with great anticipation and hope. I suspect that the entire world will reach out a hand of encouragement and assistance as is needed to help them. We have no ability to get into the nation building business. We don't do that. We're not the world's policemen. America has enough trouble of our own. But I think this is a great development for the people there to be able to stand on their own two feet and seize this moment of opportunity.
15:43Donald Trump:We're certainly hopeful and prayerful that they will and that no other innocent people are killed. Iran, by some estimates, murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens just within the last several weeks. Those people are now deceased. They do not have the ability to do that. There are still dangerous folks there, but there's more good people. There's more people who desire to have freedom and liberty, and there are terrorists and tyrants in the world. I'm grateful for that. This is their moment to step up, and I hope they will.
16:07Ben Meiselas:Then Lindsey Graham doesn't even really give a crap. Lindsey Graham is like, yeah, who cares if it's imminent? Just go to war with everybody. Here is what Lindsey Graham says, play this clip.
16:18Donald Trump:You know, in 1939 out of 35, I don't know if he was an imminent threat, but I wish somebody would have dealt with him. Any regime that, uh, that embraces a cult of death, that's killed Americans, vows to kill Americans in the future, trying to build a nuclear weapon, even after midnight hammer, trying to build weapons to hit America is a imminent threat. And it doesn't have to be imminent to me because you don't want it to be imminent. Right. The whole idea is for it not to be eminent, dumbass. You want to prevent it from being eminent. Senator, let me ask you this, because I find it I'm putting this in context, which I know you always do.
16:57Ben Meiselas:Well, it is a war. Let's be clear. And here are the first confirmed fatalities in Trump's illegal war. Captain Cody Kirk, 35 years old. Sergeant First Class Noah Tejins, 42. Sergeant First Class Nicole Ammer, 39. Sergeant Declan J. Cody. We're going to see a lot more photos like that, sadly. Our heart goes out to their families, of course. And also in Iran, 175 people, we reported on this before, were killed in an elementary school that was blown up by either the United States and Israel or Israel and the United States. And neither the Israeli nor U.S. government has directly addressed the strike on the school, but the U.S.
17:43Ben Meiselas:Central Command said on Saturday that it was aware of reports concerning civilian harm and was, quote, looking into them. Thousands in Iran attended a burial of children killed in the bombing of that school. There were students attending classes at the time that the school was destroyed. 175 people were killed in the attack on the girls elementary school. And here's a handout picture released by the Iranian Foreign Media Department of Graves getting dug for the victims of that strike on the elementary school, as further reported by Reuters right there. Let's take a look at what Democratic Senator Ruben Gallego says he's voting yes on the war powers resolution.
18:23Ben Meiselas:Play this clip.
18:23Donald Trump:Senator, you have called for the Senate to immediately return to session and vote on a war powers resolution that could block the use of forces in Iran. How do you see that going down? What do you see the language of that being? And where do you see the votes? Well, I know I'm going to vote yes. This is an illegal war. The justification for war is not there. It was made up from some of the things that were gathering. Iran actually had conceded a lot to the point where, again, there was no imminent threat of any nuclear capability. Another senator talked about them potentially being able to load a bomb and send a bomb.
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19:04Donald Trump:That is absolutely ludicrous and not even close to that. And so, you know, there isn't the president and has not justified at all why we are at war. So for me, it's a very simple vote. It should be everyone's very simple vote.
19:16Ben Meiselas:Here's what Democratic Senator Blumenthal said that his takeaway was after a briefing that took place yesterday regarding this was this was a briefing by Marco Rubio and the defense to the State Department and Defense Department to senators and members of Congress about the war. Here's what Democratic Senator Blumenthal said occurred in the briefing.
19:40Donald Trump:I just want to say I am more fearful than ever after this briefing that we may be putting boots on the ground and that troops from the United States may be necessary to accomplish objectives that the administration seems to have. But I also am no more clear on what the priorities are going to be of the administration going forward, whether it is destroying the nuclear capacity of Iran or simply the missiles or regime change or stopping terrorist activities. And I think the administration owes it to the American people to have briefings not just for members of Congress, but for the American public.
20:31Donald Trump:Nothing here should have been classified. It should be available to the American people.
20:36Ben Meiselas:Here's what Senator Chris Murphy said happened during the briefing.
20:39Donald Trump:This is as serious as it gets. This is war and peace. They told us in that room that there are going to be more Americans that are going to die, that they are not in a short run going to be able to stop these drones that are going to continue to fly into the Middle East. We have to have a debate in the United States Senate on an authorization of military force. It will likely fail. It will likely fail and we shouldn't be voting to proceed to other pieces of legislation until we get a debate on this deeply unpopular, immoral and illegal war with Iran.
21:10Ben Meiselas:And here's what Senator Brian Schatz said occurred during that briefing.
21:14Donald Trump:There are times when you go into a classified session and you walk out and you have a better understanding about the gravity of the situation and the rationale behind the military action.
21:25Ben Meiselas:This is not one of those times. We remain as confused as the American people are. They have had three or four or five justifications for this act of war over the last four or five days. And nothing in this classified session alleviated that confusion. I also should note that America conducted military operations in Ecuador yesterday. I know this isn't getting a lot of attention, but the U.S. conducted joint military operations with Ecuador against quote unquote designated terrorist organizations. The U.S. Southern Command said that joint activity with Ecuador was an effort to combat the scourge of narco terrorism, but did not provide other details about the operation.
22:13Ben Meiselas:So we actually are in a war again in Ecuador. And there's the leader of Ecuador, President Daniel Noboa, is a big Trumper. There was the Noboa-Trump meeting at Mar-a-Lago on March 29th, 2025. Trump helped the guy Noboa get elected. And just so you also know about Noboa, So Noboa's family runs a big banana company and a big produce company in Ecuador. And there have been lots of accusations that the Noboa family was helping cartels and narco travel. Just accusations. Let me be very clear. But these are accusations that are out there helping the narco terrorists ship the cocaine in the bananas that are then moved into the United States and elsewhere.
23:05Ben Meiselas:And then Naboa's deny it, but there's lots of reporting and accusations about that. And so my query is, is Donald Trump helping Naboa and Naboa's family crack down on basically the competing cartels? Because we know that Donald Trump actually supports narco trafficking, right? Right. In Honduras, Donald Trump allowed Juan Orlando Hernandez, one of the biggest narco traffickers who worked with Chapo, Donald Trump pardoned the guy and let him out. So it makes sense that Donald Trump would be supporting a guy like Naboa, wealthy family, you know, you're running this kind of, you know, similar type of Trump regime version of it in Ecuador.
23:49Ben Meiselas:You know, the same way Donald Trump helped Juan Orlando Hernandez in over in Honduras. Well, there you have it, folks. We'll keep you posted every step of the way about what happens with this vote. So the War Powers Resolution vote occurs first in the United States Senate, then it will take place in the House of Representatives. First, it takes place in the Senate on Wednesday. The vote in the House will take place on Thursday and we'll keep you posted every step of the way of how Congress votes. Let us know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million things for watching.
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