Trump Lunges at Reporter on Plane as His Life Unravels

15 Nov 2025 · 23 min · 14 chapters

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In short

The episode criticizes Donald Trump’s behavior on Air Force One and his posts, tying them to the release of 23,000 Epstein-related emails, alleged sexual misconduct, and broader political/economic claims.

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Key claims

Trump “lunged” at a reporter on a plane while being asked about his name appearing in over half of 2,600 email threads from the Epstein estate; he posts attacks on Congressman Thomas Massie after Massie’s wife died; he withdraws support for Marjorie Taylor Greene, calling her a “raving lunatic”; Trump’s “$2,000” tariff/healthcare “dividend” promises are described as misleading; Trump allegedly can’t specify what body part an MRI covered.

Notable examples

“Quiet, quiet, quiet” during questions; Massey “get married already” post; “Trump 2028” masked image; Steve Chung “stunning ballroom” post; references to “keep your young daughters away” and “Putin photos of Trump” in Epstein emails; Lori Chavez-De Remer comments on jobs data; Reuters photo of detained minister Michael Wolff.

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Trump's Reaction to Epstein Emails

0:05 to 0:30

Discuss Trump's erratic behavior in response to Epstein email revelations.

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Trump's Reaction to Epstein Emails

1:27 to 2:13

Discuss Trump's erratic behavior in response to Epstein email revelations.

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Trump's Reaction to Epstein Emails

2:17 to 3:21

Discuss Trump's erratic behavior in response to Epstein email revelations.

“That Wall Street Journal analysis found that of the 2 ,600 or so email threads, Trump's name appeared in over half of the email threads from the 23 ,000 Epstein emails from the estate.”

Trump's Attacks on Thomas Massey

3:21 to 5:32

Explore Trump's harsh comments about Congressman Massey and his remarriage.

“things like Republican Congress member Thomas Massey, who tragically lost his wife about a year ago or so when just remarried, Donald Trump attacked him for remarrying.”

Criticism of Trump's Health Claims

5:32 to 6:50

Examine Trump's statements about his health and the surrounding skepticism.

“Then throughout the evening, Donald Trump would post messages from anyone who would also agree to gang up with him and attack Marjorie Taylor Greene.”

Trump's Epstein Connections

6:50 to 7:50

Analyze Trump's past associations with Epstein and related controversies.

“on this this morning, but I'll give you the preview.”

Trump's Military Jet Deal Discussion

7:50 to 9:09

Discuss Trump's comments on military jets and international relations.

“Or do you not remember the same way you claim you don't remember what part of your body the MRI was done on.”

Economic Policies and Tariffs

9:09 to 14:00

Delve into Trump's economic plans, promises, and tariff policies.

“I mean, people have seen this photo of Donald Trump and Bill Clinton before.”

Trump's Economic Commentary and Tariff Discussion

14:00 to 16:44

Analysis of Trump's comments on tariffs, economic policy, and revenue.

“They're like, everything that's happening now is sleepy Joe Biden's fault.”

Discussion on California's Political Maneuvers

16:44 to 17:29

Critique of California's political actions and Trump's response.

“They send out tens of millions of ballots to people all over the place.”
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Christy Noem's Advertising Campaigns

17:36 to 19:14

Examination of Christy Noem's alleged misuse of taxpayer funds.

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Economic Data and Federal Reserve Concerns

19:14 to 20:33

Discussion on the reliability of economic data and Fed actions.

“This is detrimental to the markets and to the American people.”

Republican Polling Insights

20:33 to 22:14

Analysis of polling data revealing challenges for Republicans.

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Republican Polling Insights

22:16 to 24:21

Analysis of polling data revealing challenges for Republicans.

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2:16Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump could not control himself. He was crashing out and literally lunged at a reporter right there saying, quiet, quiet, quiet, as reporters were asking him questions about the appearance of his name repeatedly in the 23 ,000 Epstein emails that were released from the Epstein estate. That Wall Street Journal analysis found that of the 2 ,600 or so email threads, Trump's name appeared in over half of the email threads from the 23 ,000 Epstein emails from the estate. The reporters were asking Donald Trump questions. Can he give us more information? Quiet, quiet, quiet. Let me just show you one more time what he did.

3:01Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. And then while Donald Trump was on Air Force One throughout the evening as he left, Washington, D.C. to go back to his safe space in Mar-a-Lago. Who knows, maybe he'll do another great Gatsby party or another synchronized swimming party or whatever. He would continue to crash out. It was post after post, and he was just saying some of the most heinous and horrific things like Republican Congress member Thomas Massey, who tragically lost his wife about a year ago or so when just remarried, Donald Trump attacked him for remarrying. Donald Trump with three wives. Donald Trump, who has been found liable for sexual assault.

3:45Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump, who is on tape saying that he grabs women by their genitals because you're rich and he gets away with it. Yeah, Donald Trump posted this message. By the way, Donald Trump, who's covering up a child sex trafficking, Donald Trump, who is Epstein's best friend. I could go on, by the way. But here's what Donald Trump posted yesterday. Did Thomas Massey sometimes referred to as Rand Paul Jr. because of the fact he always votes against the Republican Party get married already? Boy, that was quick. No wonder the polls have him at less than an 8 % chance of winning the election. Anyway, have a great life, Thomas and question mark.

4:23Ben Meiselas:His wife will soon find out that she's stuck with a loser! Exclamation point. Even this MAGA supporter, Evan Kilgore, he's been channeling what we're hearing from a lot of MAGA supporters, including Marjorie Taylor Greene, who Donald Trump kicked out of MAGA officially last night. He said, she's gone. I will not support her ever again. I revoke my endorsement of her. She's a raving lunatic. I'll do a whole other video on that this morning, by the way. So make sure you check back in and watch my video of Donald Trump kicking Marjorie Taylor Greene to the curb. But here's what a MAGA supporter named Evan Kilgore says.

4:59Ben Meiselas:He goes, Donald Trump just attacked Thomas Massey for getting remarried recently after his wife tragically passed away last year. He then uses it as an attack on Massey to imply he's going to lose the next election. This is actually disgusting. Donald Trump has lost me. That's what it took. Donald Trump's a disgusting, vile human being. That's what it took. But okay, Donald Trump posted that he's withdrawing his support and endorsement of Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene and calls her a raving lunatic who keeps on calling him over and over again. Then throughout the evening, Donald Trump would post messages from anyone who would also agree to gang up with him and attack Marjorie Taylor Greene.

5:41Ben Meiselas:Like this account that said, your political future just ended, Marjorie. And Donald Trump reposts that. Then Donald Trump posts, unaffordable care act, exclamation point, unaffordable care act. Okay, Donald, what is your plan? You can't just say you're going to get rid of insurance and give people a$2 ,000 check. Let's be clear, you're lying about giving people a$2 ,000 check. Didn't you promise a$5 ,000 Doge dividend check? Oh, wait a minute. What happened with Doge? No one talks about that anymore. Then you said there was going to be a tariff rebate check. Now it's a tariff dividend check. We know you're lying there, but just assume you weren't lying and your plan was to give people a$2 ,000 check and get rid of health care, whatever that means.

6:25Ben Meiselas:So what happens when somebody has a surgery and procedure that costs more than$2 ,000? They go bankrupt. Do you understand the way health care and health insurance work? Do you understand what insurance is? I just, I don't think you do. And it seems that you don't know a lot of things like you claim you don't know where they did the MRI on your body. I'm going to do a whole other video on this this morning, but I'll give you the preview. When Donald Trump was on Air Force One, he was asked by a reporter, can you give us more information about the MRI? And he's like, look, listen, it was the perfect MRI.

7:01Ben Meiselas:The results were amazing. The best results of an MRI the doctor ever saw. And then the reporter says, what part of your body was it on? Was it your brain? And Trump says, I don't know what part of my body. I didn't ask. I don't know. That's something that you know. And as Medhi Hassan says, now we're in 25th Amendment territory because if you don't know what part of your body and MRI was conducted on, well, then I don't think you're able to identify the elephant and the snake and the other animals that are there. But you do want to make posts like this. I mean, what a weird post. Somebody wearing a weird mask saying Trump 2028, where it's like for the movie Eyes Wide Shut.

7:45Ben Meiselas:Donald, were these the people you were hanging out with when you would hang out with Jeffrey Epstein? Did they look like that, Donald? Do you remember? Or do you not remember the same way you claim you don't remember what part of your body the MRI was done on. So then Donald Trump's regime, his communications director, a guy by the name of Steve Chung, he posts the following, so much progress. It's happening. The ballroom will be absolutely stunning. It's going to be a stunning ballroom, everybody. And they showed the demolition site, which is like four times the size of the White House. The White House is going to look like complete and utter crap, right?

8:27Ben Meiselas:I'll share this with you as well because lots of people are talking about this email from that batch of 23 ,000 emails where Trump's name appears in over half of the email threads. So it's Epstein messaging his brother in these emails. And there's one email where they message each other where they talk about keep your young daughters away from Donald Trump. But then in this one, they're talking about if Putin has photos of Trump. And Epstein's brother says, can you ask him if Putin has the photos of Trump blowing Bubba? That's what the question was. Can you ask him if Putin has the photos of Trump blowing Bubba?

9:10Ben Meiselas:Trump blowing Bubba? I mean, people have seen this photo of Donald Trump and Bill Clinton before. Is that what they were talking about? Or Bubba Trump, this Time Magazine little meme that was done by this account? Or remember when Donald Trump during the campaign did this in 2024, where he gave oral sex to the microphone and everyone was like, oh, that's Donald being Donald. Here, play this clip.

9:40I had a go.

10:09Ben Meiselas:this clip.

10:15And then

10:37Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump has the official White House account post a photo of himself hugging and giving Melania a kiss on the cheek with the text saying, I can't help falling in love with you with a heart emoji. It's very weird stuff right here. I mean, do they think that we are so stupid that we'll look at this and go, oh, Trump and Melania love each other. This guy would never be all over the Epstein emails and all over the Epstein files. This guy would never be out there saying that he grabs women by their genitals because you're rich and he can get away with it. This isn't the guy who was found liable for sexual assault.

11:17Ben Meiselas:This isn't the guy who was Epstein's best friend. We know that you're posting this to try to distract us. We understand what's happening. How despicable. In any event, Going back to Air Force One, Donald Trump said that we will be honoring Saudi Arabia and probably giving them more of our military jets. That's an important message you wanted to convey. Play this clip. Well, they wanted to buy a lot of jets. We make the best jets. We make the You saw that when we took out the nuclear capability of Iran. You know, for 22 years they wanted to do that. No president had the guts to do it. We did it.

12:10And Iran is a different place. By the way, Iran wants to negotiate a deal, too. Everybody wants to negotiate with us now. If we didn't have military strength, if we didn't rebuild our military in my first term, and now we continue to do it by dissipating it, by giving a chunk to the Taliban, man. Not a good idea. But you know what? The good news is it was a lot, but relatively very little. So yes, the Jets, but you're not sure yet? I'm looking at that. They've asked me to look at it. They want to buy a lot of 35, but they want to buy actually more than that fighter Jets.

12:45Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump said that this is where Donald Trump was talking about his relationship with Epstein. He's like, he's like, Epstein and I had a bad relationship. I want you to focus on Bill Clinton, JPMorgan Chase and Larry Sumner. Go look at the files as it relates to them. Not me. Do not talk about me. Here, play this clip.

13:26You got to find out what did he know with respect to Bill Clinton, with respect to the head of Harvard, with respect to all of those people that he knew, including J.P. Morgan Chase. Yeah, Jennifer, go ahead.

13:41Ben Meiselas:A reporter asked Donald Trump, so on these rebate checks, are we going to can Americans see him this year before Christmas? And Trump's like, oh, next year. No, sometime next year, we'll deal with it. Oh, is this kind of like when you said you would bring peace to Ukraine in 24 hours? So is next year going to become next year and the year after is going to be next year? What do they say about the economy? They're like, everything that's happening now is sleepy Joe Biden's fault. Let's just blame him for everything right now. Next year is the year for the American worker. Then the reporter asked Donald Trump, well, what if the Supreme Court overturns or blocks your tariffs against the world?

14:20Ben Meiselas:Are you still going to do tariff dividend checks? He's like, we'll have to do something else. I just want to be clear and fact check it. We have not brought in trillions of dollars from tariffs, okay? Brought in about$200, $300 billion in revenue, taxing the American people. It's a tax on us. So you want to return less money to us than you're taking from us? It's the stupidest Ponzi scheme imaginable. But listen to what he says. Here, play this clip.

14:52next year sometime sometime during the year next year it's a lot of money but we've taken in a lot of money from tariffs the tariffs allow us to give a dividend if we want to do that now we're going to do a dividend and we're also going to be reducing debt we have because of Biden and others we have a 37 trillion in debt so we're going to be doing a dividend which people will enjoy and man to do what they want, but we're also going to be reducing debt very substantially. What if the Supreme Court was against you, sir? Well, then I'd have to do something else. We'll have to figure something else.

15:30That would be a very sad day for our country.

15:33Ben Meiselas:Then in the middle of talking about trying to gain seats through gerrymandering in Indiana, Trump talks about suing California over Prop 50. He's like, we're going to file a lawsuit. What they did in California in doing that popular referendum, that's really unfair. what they did, but what we did in Texas is perfectly fine. Aren't these people just absolutely pathetic? California responds to what they did in Texas. Texas, the governor does it with the legislature. In California, it's brought as a referendum of the people. And Trump's like, we've sued California. And the DOJ filed a lawsuit against California after the people passed Prop 50.

16:09Ben Meiselas:How pathetic and despicable is that? Here, play this clip. Are you meeting with Indiana lawmakers next week? Are you meeting with lawmakers from Indiana next week? Not that I don't. I might be. I don't know. They will, I guess they're making a decision as to whether or not they want to gain for the Republican Party one or two more. By the way, I will say this. I heard one or two more seats. I heard that a big lawsuit will be taking place, is but will be taking place concerning the California hoax where they're trying to get five more seats. And California is one of the most dishonest elections ever.

16:47They send out tens of millions of ballots to people all over the place. Many of those people get two or three ballots and they come back. California is a disgrace on voting and they're doing something that is very legal so when we are or will be suing California on the five seats by the way

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17:51Ben Meiselas:You know the ones with her riding horses? It's like a$220 million ad campaign. And apparently her friends, her buds are getting a lot of money sent based on these stupid ad campaigns where she threatens immigrants and rides around in horses, which is so utterly ridiculous. I just want to show you this before we go. This is Trump's labor secretary, Lori Chavez de Reimer on the jobs data. Here's what she has to say here. Play this clip. Sometimes it's too late to get accurate data points. And like I said, the household surveys were not able to be done and businesses submitted the passive information.

18:29So is it a little too late? It's similar to the Fed a little too late on these interest rate drops. I'm looking forward to the December report on that, that they will again step up as the president has oftentimes asked them to pay attention to. But again, because of the Democratic shutdown, we don't have that accurate data for them to make a good decision. But I believe that the Fed needs to cut the interest rates again in December to really prop up this economy that the president has been so forceful in by bringing the trillions of dollars by the Department of Labor, really looking at the skilled workforce.

19:07And now this is one more way for the Fed to help out the American people because of this Democratic shutdown. 43 days going on 44. This is detrimental to the markets and to the American people.

19:19Ben Meiselas:As this one account said, there's a 0 % chance data going forward provided under Trump on anything having to do with the economy will be trustworthy. Remember, I showed you the other day that they were talking about concocting data. And then Caroline Levitt said that we may never have credible data again. Like they broke in the data. They fired all the people at the Bureau of Labor statistics. They fired the people who get the data that even goes into the consumer price index, the CPI. So they're just putting in random numbers, like they're putting in the numbers that Trump wants as estimates into the CPI.

19:55Ben Meiselas:But you know who's not buying this like real economists at the Fed? So Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas President Lori Logan says it's going to be hard for us to do any rate cuts in December. They're very concerned about the financial developments. Inflation is too high. They're very concerned about the financial data. The New York Fed convened like secretly an emergency meeting with banks over key lending facility. This impromptu talk comes amid worries about strains in the money market. And it seems that there could be this contagion where lots of banks seem like they don't have the liquidity.

20:32Ben Meiselas:And there seems to be some, what's the terminology that they do? It's called like phantom printing. They're like sending money into banks very quietly behind the scenes because their reserves are falling to levels that are a little bit very concerning right now. As this one account says, you never want to see the New York Fed and impromptu talks in close proximity. And finally, while all of that's taking place, of course, you have Trump's Gestapo roaming the streets, terrorizing people, Trump's ICE agents and Border Patrol agents. Hat tip to our friends at Reuters who got this photo right here of faith leader Michael Wolff, a minister at Lake Street Church of Evanston, being detained right there outside of the Broadview ICE facility.

21:24Ben Meiselas:Sad, sad, sad stuff in this country. Oh, but the NRCC pollster, the National Republican Convention pollsters, show massive warning signs for Republicans. Generic ballots have Democrats up significantly. And on the issue of the economy, Democrats lead plus 13 over Republicans. Tell me what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers.

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