Trump Makes Shock Admission on his Secret Bunker

17 Dec 2025 · 19 min · 5 chapters

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In short

A legal dispute over Trump’s “Golden Ballroom” at the White House, tied to construction of an underground nuclear-capable bunker under the East Wing. The episode argues the DOJ invoked “national security” to keep bunker work going and that the bunker is central to the project, not merely separate from the ballroom.

Guest backgrounds

No guests are identified in the provided transcript (Dan Diamond is mentioned as a Washington Post reporter covering the court proceeding).

Key claims

Trump’s DOJ told Judge Leon it couldn’t publicly discuss underground work because blocking it could endanger Trump; the White House claims the bunker is unrelated to the ballroom; the judge required plans and could halt work if a link is proven.

Notable examples

FDR’s WWII bunker and the Presidential Emergency Operations Center; Trump’s 2025 comments about military involvement and a $130M donor to the military; Hitler/Napoleon “triumphal” analogs; the National Trust lawsuit and Judge Leon’s conditional ruling.

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Trump's Secret Bunker Controversy

2:20 to 4:48

Explore the implications of Trump's bunker beneath the White House.

“When the East Wing of the White House was demolished by Donald Trump, he talked about building the Golden Ballroom.”

History of the White House Bunker

4:48 to 7:22

Learn about the historical significance of the White House bunker.

“Turns out the real reason for it was that he wanted to build the bunker for himself.”

Court Arguments and National Security

7:22 to 10:50

Understand the court's ruling regarding the Golden Ballroom and bunker.

“sued Donald Trump to block the construction of the ballroom.”

Comparing Historical Bunkers

10:50 to 14:03

Delve into comparisons between Trump's bunker and historical precedents.

“And the Trump regime was fine saying, okay, they're really not related at all.”

Parallels Between Trump and Historical Dictators

14:21 to 17:44

Explore how Trump mirrors authoritarian figures through architectural ambitions.

“when Hitler built the Reich Chancellor to glorify himself, one of the things that was built underneath it was the bunker.”
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2:19Ben Meiselas:This is about the secret bunker underneath the White House. When the East Wing of the White House was demolished by Donald Trump, he talked about building the Golden Ballroom. Remember what we said on the Midas Touch Network? It had much more to do with the secret bunker underneath the White House than building a Golden Ballroom. And we were accused of being conspiratorial. We were accused of going down rabbit holes. But now Trump's own DOJ in a court argument before federal judge Leon in a federal court proceeding yesterday, they said that they can't stop their construction of Trump's golden ballroom because of national security reasons.

3:13Ben Meiselas:The Trump DOJ said, Judge, we can't talk about this publicly. We can potentially brief you in private. But this is a national security matter. The Golden Ballroom is a national security matter. That's what Trump's DOJ is saying. Do you remember when Donald Trump let it slip and Susie Wiles, well, she's been in the news a lot lately, Trump's chief of staff, and Pete Hegseth were looking like, oh man, did he just say that? Where Donald Trump said that the military was involved in the construction of his golden ballroom. Why would the military be involved in the construction of the golden ballroom if you claim that your rich friends and you yourself, Donald, are paying for the golden ballroom?

4:08Ben Meiselas:That was suspicious. That raised red flags. And at the Midas Touch Network over a month ago, we did a deep dive investigative piece where we said this entire ordeal is about Donald Trump wanting to redo the underground bunker that was first built by FDR during World War II. and it has since been reinforced to deal with potential nuclear attacks, but that Donald Trump wanted to reinforce it due to his paranoia. Remember, we gave you the historical analogs. Adolf Hitler and building his golden ballroom. Turns out the real reason for it was that he wanted to build the bunker for himself. And folks, this is what Trump's DOJ argued, that this is a national security issue.

5:04Ben Meiselas:Go back and watch the video I did a month ago. Secret bunker exposed underneath the ballroom. Trump built secret bunker underneath the ballroom. And do you remember when Donald Trump was also talking about how there was donors who were giving $130 million to the military or one donor was giving$130 million to the military? One of the things I flagged is I wonder if that was going to help Donald Trump build his bunker, and if that's how Donald Trump went from saying that the Golden Ballroom was$200 million to now saying that it's$400 million. It was$200 million to$300, and now it's$400 million.

5:46Ben Meiselas:Let me just, again, break this all down for you, but a reminder. Make sure you hit subscribe to the MidasTouch YouTube channel. We are months ahead of these stories. We have great sourcing. We do fearless reporting. And you know we're under attack by the Trump regime and state regime media news box. You may think you're subscribed, but just double check. So just to give you a brief history lesson here, a bunker was built underneath the White House by FDR during World War II. It was since reinforced. It has its own ventilation system. It was meant to, in theory now, withstand nuclear attacks. You probably have seen it in those photos after 9-11 of Dick Cheney looking like he was in a situation room with George W.

6:35Ben Meiselas:Bush's cabinet. That was in this area called the Presidential Emergency Operations Center. That was underneath the East Wing. And I said, huh, they're tearing down the East Wing. Trump's saying the military is involved. I wonder if that's really what they're doing. And authoritarians tend to think alike. And Hitler wanted that bunker badly. And you can imagine Donald Trump seething in his paranoia saying, I need a bunker, especially if Donald Trump doesn't want to leave. Dan Diamond, Washington Post reporter, was in the court proceeding that took place on Tuesday, where a group, the National Trust for the Historical Preservation of Washington, D.C., sued Donald Trump to block the construction of the ballroom.

7:29Ben Meiselas:Now, the Trump regime made two arguments. Argument number one, national security. The judge was like, what do you mean national security? The Trump regime said, we're doing some stuff underground. We can't talk about it public. but the specific language the Trump regime used is that Trump's life would be in danger if the judge blocked this. It is an incredibly important national security interest, is what they were saying. Justice Department lawyers argue that work must continue on the ballroom, given the national security concerns, and that the White House was exempt from reviews that apply to federal agency construction projects like this.

8:14Ben Meiselas:They also said that underground construction was needed to replace security infrastructure, warning that any halt could endanger Donald Trump's life. And the Washington Post article here mentions that a presidential emergency operations bunker had been located below the now demolished East Wing of the White House. And so what the judge said is actually not what is being reported at the Washington Post gave a good nuance analysis because what lots of people are saying is, oh, the judge said the construction of the ballroom can continue. No, Judge Leon, a federal judge appointed by George W. Bush, actually had a pretty nuanced ruling.

9:00The judge said is you could, I guess, keep doing

9:04Ben Meiselas:what you're doing on this bunker for national security. But if the bunker is impacting the golden ballroom in any way, I'm going to order that you stop doing the bunker. To which the White House response was, it's not going to have any real impact on the golden ballroom. And then what Trump's regime said is that they would actually be submitting plans regarding the construction of the Golden Ballroom. And they argued, we won't be done until 2028 anyway, judge. So it's really moot right now. We already tore down the East Wing. So there's nothing we can do there. Oopsies, we tore it down. The construction of the Golden Ballroom won't be done until 2028.

9:52Ben Meiselas:And the Trump regime assured the judge, we will submit plans to the appropriate agency. So if you're going to submit the plans, the judge is like, I'm going to hold you to that, basically come back in two weeks. So that's how the Trump regime basically argued that it would be moot to block them from constructing the Golden Ballroom because they said, okay, we'll follow the steps. So the judge says, I'm going to hold you to that. I'm going to make you come back to prove that. And then they argue national security that this bunker project was kind of unrelated from the ballroom itself. And the judge, though, said, well, if I find out that it is actually related and that this ballroom has something to do with the bunker and that they're not separate things, then I will block that and I will make you tear it down.

10:45Ben Meiselas:OK, well, we're going to get the complete ruling from the court today. But that was the argument that was made. And the Trump regime was fine saying, okay, they're really not related at all. So what's really going down here by their own admission about what happened in court is that this is dealing with what they claim is the bunker. And it's so private that they did not want to even talk about it publicly. So I just want you to think about that. So let's just go through again, some additional data points now that I think your mind is blown by, whoa, that's really what's happening. So this is back on October 22nd, 2025, when Donald Trump said the military is very much involved in the ballroom.

11:28Ben Meiselas:That was one of my first signs. Here, play this clip. We're also working with the military on it because they want to make sure everything's perfect. And the military is very much involved in this. They want to make sure everything is absolutely beautiful. You can see the kind of interiors that we're talking about. That's an interior of the ballroom. And it's the highest level. And you see, it goes beautifully with the White House. I mean, the mix is beautiful. So over the years, many presidents have made changes. This obviously would be the biggest change, but this was something they wanted for at least 150 years.

12:02Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump said that a wealthy private donor has given the military$130 million as like a donation. Here, play this clip right here. They're going to go without their first full paychecks. Yeah, I heard. By the way, a man, a friend of mine talking about donors, a friend of mine, a man that's great. I'm not going to use his name unless he lets me do it. Susie can tell you about this, but he was he called us the other day and he said, I'd like to contribute any shortfall you have because of the Democrat shutdown. I'd like to contribute, personally contribute any shortfall you have with the military because i love the military and i love the country and any shortfall if there's a shortfall i'll contribute it and today he sent us a check for 130 million dollars i would love to tell you he deserves he doesn't really want the recognition if you want to know the truth but he gave us a check for 130 million dollars which was sort of a shortfall yeah and that's going to go to the military.

13:06Yeah. Is that the correct number? $130 million. That's what I call a patriot.

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14:32Ben Meiselas:As Mark McDonald says, also, there is a bunker under the East Wing of the White House. By sheer coincidence, Adolf Hitler added on to his building, his ballroom, a vorbunker in 1936, the area to the right, right there. See it for yourself. Now, I noticed in the CBS article from October 22nd, it says this bunker under the East Wing will also be upgraded, according to sources that told CBS. The White House military office is handling the renovation of the bunker, which is known as the President's Emergency Operations Center. There was a bigger story, but that got like one tiny line. And I'm like, isn't that the biggest line right there?

15:15Ben Meiselas:And I think it's important for you to know that what Donald Trump is doing here is he's also copying authoritarians. He's copying dictators. So when he talks about a triumphal arch also, like he wants to build his next one is the triumphal arch, right? Guess who did the triumphal arch? Adolf Hitler viewing the model of his planned triumphal arch for Berlin. With him are Reich leader Martin Bormann, Reich leader Philipp Bühler, and architect Albert Speer examining Speer's model of the triumphal arch. Here's another photo of it right there. Who else did triumphal arches? Napoleon. Here's this portrait of Napoleon commissioned the same year, he commissioned the Arc de Triumph, Napoleon, another authoritarian.

16:02Ben Meiselas:And after he commissioned the Arc de Triumph, he eventually was exiled and died. So maybe you need to read some history a little bit there. But then Trump touts his triumphal arch. So I just want you to think about what's going on here. Play this clip. It's going to be unbelievable happening. Should I announce it or should I keep it quiet? I put Vince in charge of the triumphal arc. We're building an arc like the Arc to Triumph. And we're building it by the Arlington Bridge, the Arlington Cemetery, opposite the Lincoln Memorial. You could say Jefferson, Washington, everything, because they're all right there.

16:40And it's something that is so special. It will be like the one in Paris, but to be honest with you, it blows it away, blows it away in every way. And Vince came in one day and his eyes were teeming. I mean, he couldn't believe how beautiful it was. He saw it and he wanted to do.

17:01Ben Meiselas:So Donald Trump's own DOJ admits to federal judge, this underground bunker, we, for national security reasons, we can't stop it. And that it's unrelated to the construction of the golden ballroom. They're saying the golden ballroom won't be done now until 2028. We'll submit plans, Judge. So that's why when you hear, oh, Trump won the lawsuit, he didn't really win. They just argue that it's moot because now we'll submit the plans and now we'll go through the process because I don't think he really cared so much about the ball. I mean, yes, he cared about the ball. He wants it for his vanity project.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on the shocking admission by Donald Trump’s DOJ in a court case where the DOJ admits to a secret project underneath the ballroom which they claim is needed to protect Donald Trump’s life for “national security purposes.”

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