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The MeidasTouch Podcast - Episode Summary
Episode Title
Trump Panics and Lies He Made Deal to End War
Episode Overview In this episode, Ben Meiselas discusses Donald Trump’s recent actions and statements regarding the escalating tensions with Iran. He highlights Trump’s panicked response to Iran rejecting his ultimatum and his subsequent false claims of negotiating a deal to end the conflict, which Iran has categorically denied.
Key Themes
- Market Manipulation: Trump’s claims are viewed as an attempt to stabilize the stock market amid fears of impending military action against Iran.
- Diplomatic Deceit: The episode underscores the stark contrast between Trump’s statements and Iran’s immediate denials, raising questions about credibility and truth in political communication.
- Conflict Escalation: The episode also discusses the broader implications of Trump's rhetoric on international relations and military strategy.
Discussion Points
- Trump's Claims of Negotiation
- Context: Trump announced on social media that the U.S. and Iran were engaged in productive discussions, contradicting Iran's statement that no communication was happening.
- Immediate Response: Iran quickly denied any contact, stating that Trump’s claims were a form of "psychological warfare."
- The Ultimatum and Reactions
- Trump’s Ultimatum: Trump had issued a 48-hour ultimatum for Iran to vacate the Strait of Hormuz, threatening military action.
- Iran’s Response: Iran rejected the threat, warning that it would retaliate against U.S. allies in the region, heightening tensions.
- Market Reactions
- Market Stabilization: Following Trump's announcement, there was some stabilization in financial markets, which were previously on the brink of turmoil.
- Media Coverage and Public Perception
- Critics' Views: Ben cites comments from journalists and analysts who express skepticism about trusting the U.S. government over Iranian state media.
- Ridiculous Claims: Trump’s absurd assertions about jointly controlling the Strait of Hormuz with the Ayatollah are mocked as ill-conceived and outlandish.
Key Quotes
- “Iran instantly has denied that these communications are taking place.”
- “This would be an SNL skit. This would be parody if it wasn't issues of war and peace.”
- “We have become Baghdad Bob,” referring to the disconnect between Trump's statements and reality.
Conclusion The episode encapsulates the chaotic and often contradictory nature of Trump’s foreign policy statements, particularly concerning Iran. Ben Meiselas emphasizes the importance of discerning truth in political discourse and the potential consequences of misinformation on global stability.
Additional Information
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Market Manipulation Tactics
3:46 to 5:56
Discussion on Trump's claims about negotiating with Iran.
“Donald Trump, in order to manipulate the markets, just came out with a massive lie and claimed that he is in the process of negotiating a deal that could potentially resolve the war with Iran.”
Iran's Strong Denial and Trump's Lies
5:56 to 8:15
Analysis of Iran's denial of Trump's claims and the implications.
“Well, early this morning, here's what he posted.”
Media Reaction and Market Impact
8:15 to 10:12
Discussion on responses from media and the effects on oil markets.
“Two, Trump is trying to buy time in the Iran war.”
Trump's Press Conference Responses
10:12 to 12:18
Review of Trump's statements during a press conference about Iran.
“Massive market swings taking place this morning.”
Trump's Claims About Iran and the Strait of Hormuz
14:03 to 17:24
Explore Trump's bizarre assertions regarding control over the Strait of Hormuz and negotiations with Iran.
“Next, Donald Trump is asked, so who's Steve Whitcoff speaking with in Iran?”
Discussion on War Funding and Domestic Issues
17:24 to 18:36
Analyzing Trump's statements about war funding and the impact on healthcare and education in the U.S.
“You're going to control the strait with the eye.”
Market Manipulation and Economic Consequences
18:36 to 19:28
Understanding the potential market manipulation linked to Trump's comments and the ongoing economic issues.
“Then Donald Trump's like, we're doing a five day period.”
Trump's Reaction to Recent Tragedies and Incidents
19:28 to 20:33
Review Trump's response to recent airline incidents and natural disasters, highlighting his priorities.
“To get together today by probably phone because it's very hard to find a country.”
Trump's Attack on Joe Kent and Political Dynamics
20:33 to 23:24
Examining Trump's attacks on intelligence official Joe Kent and the implications for political discourse.
“And then here's what Donald Trump says about Joe Kent, one of his top intelligence officials who quit over the war in Iran.”
Transcript
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4:06Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump refuses to say who he is having these discussions with, how they are taking place, what the general framework is, if there are anyone mediating these conversations. Iran instantly has denied that these communications are taking place. They say there's no direct or indirect communications with Donald Trump. But based on Donald Trump's fabrications, the markets which were set to crash have actually stabilized, at least for the time being today. Although as more information trickles in that Donald Trump is lying and Donald Trump just gave a disastrous press conference on the tarmac as he leaves Florida to head back to Washington, D.C.
4:47Ben Meiselas:I think it's becoming evident to everybody that yet again, Donald Trump is lying. So remember, Donald Trump gave Iran a 48 hour ultimatum where he said, if you don't get out of the Strait of Hormuz immediately and allow us to control the Strait of Hormuz, the United States will blow up all of your energy infrastructure in Iran, starting with the biggest one first. Iran responded and said, we reject that ultimatum. If you go after our energy infrastructure, we will be attacking the energy infrastructure, desalination facilities, commerce centers, and any other areas where economic benefits are derived in the Arab nations that surround us, take our threat very seriously.
5:33Ben Meiselas:So Donald Trump had an option. His deadline for the ultimatum would be due in a few hours. Was he going to bomb the civilian energy infrastructure of Iran, which would be a war crime? Or would he basically do what he always does, where he makes up a lie, says he's involved in negotiations when he really isn't, and then try to get himself out of the mess that he created? Well, early this morning, here's what he posted. I'll show you Trump's post, the Iranian response right away, because Iran, within 20 minutes, they were on their media channel saying this is a lie. There's no direct or indirect communications with Donald Trump.
6:10Ben Meiselas:Look at the United States backing down. So let me show you what went down. Trump writes, I'm pleased to report that the United States of America and the country of Iran have had over the last two days very good and productive conversations regarding a complete and total resolution of our hostilities in the Middle East. Based on the tenor and tone of these in-depth, detailed, and constructive conversations, which will continue throughout the week, I have instructed the Department of War to post bone any and all military strikes against Iranian power plants and energy infrastructure for a five-day period, subject to the success of the ongoing meetings and discussions.
6:47Ben Meiselas:Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. And to be clear, when he talks about military strikes against power plants and energy infrastructure, that is a war crime right there. That is a 100 percent a war crime. So then Donald Trump reaches out to CNBC and to Fox Business and he calls them and he says to them, Iran badly wants to make a deal. It could happen in five days. Why five days? because he doesn't want the markets to crash this week. What happens in five days? The markets close. That's when escalation likely would begin again over the weekend. And then he comes back on Monday to manipulate the markets again.
7:29Ben Meiselas:So as Faye Tewks News explains over here, it's true, though. Take note of who Trump is talking to following his Truth Social post, CNBC and Fox. Then I'll show you this in a moment. Donald Trump says that part of these discussions, he will be jointly controlling the Strait of Hormuz with the new Ayatollah. It will be Trump and the Ayatollah now working together, controlling the Strait of Hormuz, which obviously is a bunch of nonsense. So Iran responds right away. They go on their various state media and they deny that there have been not just productive conversations. They deny there's any direct or indirect communications whatsoever.
8:10Ben Meiselas:Iran says, one, there has been no indirect or direct contact with Trump or his people. Two, Trump is trying to buy time in the Iran war. Three, Trump withdrew from the power plant strike threats after Iran's firm warning that it would strike its neighbors. Four, Trump's comments are part of a psychological warfare campaign against Iran. Five, Hormuz will not return and will never return to pre-war conditions as long as psychological warfare continues. As the Kobayashi letter explains, Iran has entirely denied all of Donald Trump's claims. And as our editor-in-chief, Ron Filipkowski, writes, never in my life have I believed Iran's state media over our own government until now.
8:59Ben Meiselas:That's not being unpatriotic. It's having a brain that functions. And he's quoting Iranian state media saying there's been no direct or indirect communications with Trump, not even through intermediaries. Trump retreated after hearing that our targets would be all over the power plants and we'd be targeting the power plants all over West Asia. Now, the editor at large of the Wall Street Journal, Gerard Baker, put out the following message. The unsettling reality is that with this president, this is the editor at large at the Wall Street Journal. The unsettling reality is that with this president, Americans in wartime are in the unprecedented position of having to suspect that the enemy's version of events is more likely to be true than our own.
9:46Ben Meiselas:We have become Baghdad Bob. And specifically, we were seeing oil markets were imploding. I mean, it was going to go to$120,$150 per barrel. We saw the rise of the Treasury note yields, the 10 year and the 20 year reaching unsustainable levels. And then when Trump made the fabricated announcement, we saw some stabilization taking place as well. Massive market swings taking place this morning. So then Donald Trump was on the tarmac. He's leaving his vacation again at Mar-a-Lago and his Palm Beach Club that we the taxpayers fund. And Donald Trump was asked, so Iran's foreign ministry says that you're not telling the truth when it comes to productive conversations to end the war.
10:34Ben Meiselas:What do you say to this? Here, play this clip. Mr. President, Iran's foreign ministry says you're not telling the truth when it comes to productive conversations to end the war. They're going to have to get themselves better public relations, people. We have had very, very strong talks. We'll see where they lead. We have points of major points of agreement. I would say almost all points of agreement. Perhaps that hasn't been conveyed. The communication, as you know, has been blown to pieces. They're unable to talk to each other. But we've had very strong talks. Mr. Whitcoff and Mr. Kushner had them.
11:10They went, I would say, perfectly. I would say that if they carry through with that, it'll end that problem, that conflict. And I think it'll end it very, very substantially. We have very much in mind our partners in the Middle East. We've had great relationships with a lot of them, as you know. A lot of them were surprisingly hit. And I was surprised to see it, and so was everyone else. But we have — they're very much in mind in the discussions. So the discussions took place yesterday. They went into yesterday evening.
11:48Ben Meiselas:They want very much to make a deal. We'd like to make a deal too. They need to get a better PR person. Again, this would be an SNL skit. This would be parody if it wasn't issues of war and peace and so freaking dangerous and people's lives on the line and our economy on the line. Next, Donald Trump is asked. So you said there's many points of agreement that you've reached with Iran right now. Can you give us just a few? And Donald Trump's goes like 15 points. The guy just makes everything up. This is a humiliation ritual that he's putting the United States through right now. Here, play this clip.
12:25You said there's many points of agreement with Iran right now. What can you give us a few of those? Many, like 15 points. 15 points. Iran has said yes. Well, they're not going to have a nuclear weapon. That's number one. That's number one, two, and three. They will never have a nuclear weapon. They've agreed to that.
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14:33President? a top a top person don't forget we've wiped out the leadership phase one phase two and largely phase three but we're dealing with the man who i believe is the most respected and the leader uh you know it's a little tough they've wiped out we've wiped out everybody no not the supreme leader we don't well nobody's ever nobody heard of the second supreme leader the sun are Nobody we have not heard from the son Every once in a while you see a statement made, but we haven't we don't know if he's living But the people that seem to be running it and they seem that based on really fact because things they've said have taken place
15:21I don't want him to be killed Okay, I don't want him to be killed Nobody wants to be that nobody wants that job right now, you know Well, nobody's exactly looking forward to being the head of that particular country,
15:35Ben Meiselas:but perhaps we'll be able to solve that problem. So then the next question is, all right, so under your deal, who gets to control the Strait of Hormuz? How do you see it going down? And Donald Trump goes, me, me, I control it. And who? Maybe the Ayatollah. Donald Trump says that he and the Ayatollah will control the Strait of Hormuz. Folks, I mean, for real. a no offense to kindergartners but if you explained in a very rudimentary fashion what was happening in iran to a kindergartner a a bad student kindergartner wouldn't come up with something this outlandish that's how that's how crazy this is here play this clip thank you what about the state of war moves who's going to be in control that would be opened very soon if this How soon?
16:24And who is in control of it? Will Iran still be able to control the flow of oil? Be jointly controlled. By whom? Maybe me. Maybe me. You want the United States to be in control of the oil? Me and the Ayatollah, whoever the Ayatollah is, whoever the next Ayatollah. Look, and there'll also be a form of a very serious form of a regime change. Now, in all fairness, everybody's been killed from the regime. They're really starting off. there's automatically a regime change. But we're dealing with some people that I find to be very reasonable, very solid. The people within know who they are. They're very respected.
17:04And maybe one of them will be exactly what we're looking for. Look at Venezuela, how well that's working out. We are doing so well in Venezuela with oil and with the relationship between the president-elect and us.
17:20Ben Meiselas:and maybe we find somebody like that in Iran. You're going to control the strait with the eye. What are you even talking about? Next, Donald Trump has asked, OK, so if you say the war is ending in the next five days, you still want$200 billion supplemental? That's what you want? And Donald Trump's like, it's always nice to have$200 billion. So you're saying the war is going to end. You're shutting down rural hospitals. Americans can't afford health care right now. You could have just funded it with 30 billion dollars, the Obama supplemental insurance plan that people needed. You could fund lots of health insurance for hundreds of billions of dollars.
18:02Ben Meiselas:Educational institutions, schools are under are severely underfunded. I mean, you've gutted the government, you've gutted resources for people. And now you want 200 billion dollars because, as you said, it's always nice to have Democrats in flame. what the hell are you talking about? Here, play this clip. It's great for all of them. If the war is ending, do you still need$200 billion? It's always nice to have. It's always nice to have. It's a very inflamed world and the Democrats inflame it. Largely the Democrats inflame it. Let me just talk about the others. So ISIS done very well. Then Donald Trump's like, we're doing a five day period.
18:42Ben Meiselas:We'll see how it goes. And if it doesn't go well, we'll just keep bombing our little hearts out. We'll keep bombing our little, oh, five days, the markets close, you bomb. Then on Monday, you say, aha, we did a deal again and manipulate the markets. Don't we all see exactly what is happening here? This is pure market manipulation. And the big point to talk about as well is that systemically, this is killing the United States economy because the conditions haven't changed. The Strait of Hormuz is still controlled by Iran and effectively shut down. The oil shipments are not leaving. A war is still taking place.
19:21Ben Meiselas:In fact, this morning, Israel has ramped up, not rammed down, ramped up strikes on Tehran. So that's taking place. Iran continues to strike neighbors. So this is all a fugazi. This is all one big lie. And here, play this clip. To get together today by probably phone because it's very hard to find a country. It's very hard for them to get out, I guess. But we'll at some point very, very soon meet. We're doing a five day period. We'll see how that goes. And if it goes well, we're going to end up with settling this. Otherwise, we just keep bombing our little hearts out. And meanwhile, there's massive natural disasters taking place in Nebraska, in Hawaii right now.
20:09Ben Meiselas:Trump doesn't mention any of that. There were two people killed overnight, a dozen injured in a collision between a Jazz Airlines flight, 646, which is a Canada Air regional jet and a fire truck at LaGuardia Airport, where we believe that the flight control was understaffed. You want to comment on that, Donald? The plane crash at LaGuardia Airport? Here, play this clip. Thank you. Are these direct cops going on? Terrible. They made a mistake. It's a dangerous business. That's terrible. Thank you. And then here's what Donald Trump says about Joe Kent, one of his top intelligence officials who quit over the war in Iran.
20:54Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump attacks the fact that Joe Kent got remarried after his wife died in a terrorist attack in Syria. Always goes after the families first. That's Donald Trump's go-to move right there. And the go-to move is just to lie and lie in the most ridiculous ways imaginable. Let's play this clip right here.
21:19Look, I'm not a fan of the guy. If you look at, and you never cover this, if you look at his truths or whatever he went on, if it's X or truth, if you look at his truths or his statements, he was all for everything. All of a sudden, he wasn't. He was a man that I met at Dover. He came and his wife was killed. He remarried fairly quickly. His wife was killed, and I felt badly for her. He ran for Congress. He lost. He ran for Congress again and he lost. I said, you know, he's a guy, nice guy, seemed like a very nice guy. I bet him he was pretty heartbroken. Pretty. But I said, you know, it's a shame.
22:04He ran for Congress twice. Call him up, give him a job in the White House. Smart. They gave him a job in the White House. And this is what he does to me. You know, being a nice guy doesn't pay off too much. Think of it. He loses twice in Congress, ran not very good campaigns, should have won. But he loses twice. How do I get him? I have my people call him because I didn't deal with him for the most part. I saw him a couple of times, but I never dealt with him at all. I had no idea his ideology was left or right, whatever it is. I can say this. He said very strongly that Iran is not a threat. Iran's been a threat for 47 years, and there's not a country in the world that doesn't agree with me on that.
22:51So I take this guy, Joe Kent.
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