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The MeidasTouch Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title
Trump Panics as Dark Past Surfaces at Worst Time!!
Episode Description In this episode, Ben Meiselas discusses the resurfacing of Donald Trump's troubling past as his political situation deteriorates. The conversation centers around various allegations and political maneuvers related to sexual misconduct in Congress, including bipartisan efforts to expose hush money settlements.
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Key Themes and Discussions
Resurfacing Allegations Against Trump
- Trump's past is coming to light, coinciding with a crisis in his political standing.
- Allegations against Trump, particularly concerning sexual misconduct, are gaining renewed attention with calls for transparency.
Bipartisan Efforts in Congress
- A significant bipartisan effort is underway, led by some MAGA Republican women, to publish all sexual harassment settlements in Congress.
- Notable figures include:
- Anna Paulina Luna
- Nancy Mace
- Lauren Boebert
The Impact of the Epstein Case
- The episode discusses the implications of the Epstein case on Trump's allegations.
- Survivors of Epstein's trafficking attended the State of the Union, sending a powerful message to Trump.
- The Justice Department is criticized for allegedly covering up documents related to Epstein and Trump, including:
- Missing FBI interviews with a survivor who accused Trump of sexual assault as a minor.
- A public database of Epstein files that reportedly lacks critical documents implicating Trump.
Congressional Response and Calls for Transparency
- There is a growing movement among some members of Congress to expose sexual misconduct, regardless of party affiliation.
- Lauren Boebert's Comments:
- Advocates for transparency regarding hush money settlements paid to silence allegations.
Critique of the Justice Department
- The podcast hosts express skepticism about the effectiveness of the DOJ in addressing allegations tied to Epstein and Trump.
- There are calls for accountability and clarity on investigations that appear to be stalled or inadequate.
International Context
- Comparisons are drawn with how other countries, such as Poland and the UK, handle investigations related to Epstein.
- Poland's proactive approach to investigating Epstein's connections is contrasted with the U.S. response, highlighting a perceived lack of urgency in the U.S.
Key Takeaways
- Emerging Bipartisan Support: Both Democrats and Republicans are increasingly united in pushing for transparency regarding sexual misconduct in Congress.
- Public Outcry for Justice: There is a palpable frustration regarding the lack of accountability for those implicated in the Epstein scandal, particularly regarding high-profile individuals.
- Continued Advocacy: The podcast emphasizes ongoing efforts to hold powerful figures accountable and to ensure that victims are heard.
Conclusion The episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast presents a critical analysis of the intersections between Trump's political challenges and ongoing allegations of sexual misconduct, underlining significant bipartisan initiatives aimed at transparency and justice in Congress. The discussions also highlight broader systemic issues within the U.S. justice system concerning accountability for past transgressions.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCongress's Hidden Settlements
0:18 to 0:51
Explore the resolution supporting the publication of sexual harassment settlements in Congress.
“Donald Trump's dark past is surfacing, as is the dark past of other MAGA Republicans in Congress, or frankly, any member of Congress who has engaged in despicable conduct that they were trying to sweep under the rug.”
Boycotting the State of the Union
0:51 to 1:50
Understand the significance of the Midas Touch Network's boycott of the State of the Union.
“especially where hush money payments were made in order to do secret confidential settlements.”
Epstein Survivors at the State of the Union
1:50 to 2:27
Learn about the impactful presence of Epstein survivors at the State of the Union.
“inside the House chambers a number of Epstein survivors who were there, and they had a powerful message for Donald Trump with their presence.”
Cover-Up of Allegations Against Trump
2:27 to 4:20
Investigate the alleged cover-up by the DOJ regarding accusations against Trump.
“by the Department of Justice of the Epstein files, specifically regarding accusations by underage children against Donald Trump that are still being covered up right now.”
International Investigations vs. US DOJ
4:20 to 7:10
Contrast the responses of international investigations with those of the US DOJ regarding Epstein.
“NPR reviewed multiple sets of unique serial numbers.”
MAGA Congresswomen Speak Out
11:18 to 14:02
Hear MAGA Congresswomen advocate for transparency on sexual misconduct in Congress.
“As always, a massive thanks to Indicloud for helping keep February in perspective.”
The Impact of Trump's Dark Past
14:02 to 14:20
Discussion on the implications of Trump's past actions and their impact.
“Texans, his constituents specifically, know what happened?”
Epstein Investigation Findings
14:20 to 17:04
Analysis of new findings regarding the Epstein investigation and law enforcement's response.
“Five days after Jeffrey Epstein's arrest, federal authorities directed New York law enforcement authorities to stand down their investigation related to Epstein.”
Congressional Insights on Epstein Documents
17:04 to 19:00
Insights from Congress members about missing documents related to Epstein's case.
“I wanna show you a few more things as well.”
Calls for Accountability in Epstein Case
19:00 to 21:47
Discussion on the lack of prosecutions and accountability regarding Epstein's associates.
“Over three million documents describing horrible things, describing unspeakable things.”
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Public Perception of Justice System
21:47 to 22:51
Exploration of public sentiment regarding the justice system and its effectiveness.
“We want the Department of Justice to get to work, and that's what they need to do now.”
Transcript
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0:18Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump's dark past is surfacing, as is the dark past of other MAGA Republicans in Congress, or frankly, any member of Congress who has engaged in despicable conduct that they were trying to sweep under the rug. One thing that we're seeing happen right now is on a bipartisan basis, some Republicans and Democrats also being led by some MAGA Republican female leaders like Anna Paulina Luna, Nancy Mace, and even Lauren Boebert are supporting a resolution that would publish all of the sexual harassment settlements and allegations that have been made against members of Congress, especially where hush money payments were made in order to do secret confidential settlements.
1:10Ben Meiselas:And so we caught up with a number of these MAGA Republicans on Capitol Hill during the State of the Union in order to ask them about this resolution. And it's being supported by Democrats, too. We could see another discharge petition on this as well. Now, while Donald Trump was giving that State of the Union. Of course, there were empty seats everywhere, and that's all that everybody's talking about now as well. The highly successful Midas Touch Network boycott of the State of the Union, 70 plus members in the House and in the Senate boycotted. They joined the Midas Touch event. What a historic night that was to spend that time together.
1:49Ben Meiselas:But there were inside the House chambers a number of Epstein survivors who were there, and they had a powerful message for Donald Trump with their presence. They wore the butterfly pins in honor of Virginia Giuffre, who died by suicide. She worked at Mar-a-Lago when she was underage, and she was sex trafficked out of Mar-a-Lago by Epstein. And then you also had survivors wearing teal scarves last night as well. This came at the same time where we learned about additional cover-up by the Department of Justice of the Epstein files, specifically regarding accusations by underage children against Donald Trump that are still being covered up right now.
2:41Ben Meiselas:There was great reporting originally by Roger Sullenberger on this. Then PBS did some good reporting and the House Oversight Dems did some great work on this. Give credit where credit is due to the great work they've all done. Here's what the oversight Dems posted last night, right before Donald Trump was giving that stated that does that, what do you want to call it? For the last few weeks, oversight Democrats have been investigating the FBI's handling of allegations from 2019 of sexual assault on a minor against Donald Trump by a survivor. Oversight Democrats can confirm the DOJ appears to have illegally withheld FBI interviews with this survivor.
3:23Ben Meiselas:Covering up direct evidence of a potential assault by Donald Trump is the most serious possible crime in this White House cover-up, they go on to write. Here's what NPR's investigation detailed. Hat tip to Stephen Fowler. An NPR investigation finds the public database of Epstein files is missing dozens of pages related to sexual abuse accusations against Donald Trump. Other documents that mention Trump have also been taken down. A few of them have been restored after they were called out by NPR, by Roger Sullenberger, and by the Midas Touch and others, and Aaron Parnas, for example. But here's what the report explains.
4:08Ben Meiselas:There appears to be at least 50 pages of FBI interviews regarding a specific survivor who accused Donald Trump of sexual abuse when she was a minor. That document is being covered up. NPR reviewed multiple sets of unique serial numbers. We call them in legal jargon. We call them Bates numbers appearing before and after the pages in question stamped onto the documents. And you can see in this latest tranche of documents that there are just dozens and dozens of these Bates numbers that are missing, these serial numbers as they're calling it here. They are absolutely missing. And so, by the way, there are still 50 terabytes of documents that are missing as well, which means there's probably 50 million, 100 million records that have not been produced.
4:59Ben Meiselas:And we believe, and our sources also tell us as well, that there are far more devastating information in the documents that are being concealed by Donald Trump. As Congress member Garcia posted, this is the manifest document in the files. The highlighted documents you see there are what is missing. So let's just contrast for a moment what our DOJ is doing and say what they're doing in other countries, right? As you know, in the UK, Peter Mandelson, who went by the name Lord Peter Mandelson, the former UK ambassador to the United States. He's been arrested in connection with his connections to Epstein.
5:40Ben Meiselas:You have Andrew Mountbatten, who's to be Prince Andrew. He was arrested in connection with his connections to Epstein and everything we saw in the files there. In Poland, they just dropped a bombshell, as Bethany O 'Leary explains. They are forming a full task force to rip through the Epstein files and are preparing to launch their own independent investigation. Special prosecutors are on the case, and anybody who's associated with it in Poland will be uncovered. No stone will be left unturned is what the Polish officials are saying. Polish officials say they are not satisfied with the watered down U.S.
6:23Ben Meiselas:releases and now officially view the Epstein files as a direct threat to Poland's national security. Thus, even America's closest Eastern European ally doesn't trust what Washington handed over and thinks the full truth could expose something even more massive. And so Poland is going on the offense here. The National Prosecutor's Office said that they have a newly formed body, dubbed Investigation Team No. 5, and they will be going through all the documents, all of the records, and they will be using anything in their power in order to look through this. Then separately, the justice ministry confirmed the creation of an analytical task force chaired by a chief justice, a top justice there as well.
7:09Ben Meiselas:And so they're taking it seriously. But as I said, compare this to the DOJ in the United States. Their rapid response account yesterday posted, oversight Dems should stop misleading the public while manufacturing outrage from their radical anti-Trump base. The Justice Department has repeatedly said publicly and directly to NPR, prior to deadline, nothing has been deleted. If files are temporarily pulled for victim redactions or to redact personally identifiable information, then those documents are promptly restored online and are publicly available. All responsive documents have been produced unless a document falls within one of the following categories, duplicates, privileged, or part of an ongoing federal investigation.
7:59Ben Meiselas:So do you see where the cover up is right there? Not on the duplicates part, privilege or part of an ongoing federal investigation. In other words, the Trump DOJ is their own adjudicator of what they're claiming is privileged. And they're using this broad term called deliberative process privilege to say that all of the internal memos, the work product, all of the FBI interviews, a lot of this is deliberative process privilege. And so it's not being turned over. The Epstein Transparency Act does not say you can withhold documents on the basis of any type of privilege claim. And what would the deliberative process privilege claim even be at this point?
8:47Ben Meiselas:And didn't the Department of Justice and the FBI claim several months ago, or even over last summer rather, that there was no ongoing investigation, but now they're saying there is federal investigation. But when they testify before Congress, they say that there is no investigation. So that's what our DOJ is doing. And they're obviously hiding, as I said, about 50 terabytes of documents are probably being concealed right now. The oversight Dems responded to that DOJ rapid response account and said, records of FBI interviews with a survivor who alleged Trump sexually assaulted her as a child aren't duplicates and shouldn't be privileged.
9:26Ben Meiselas:Are you saying there's an active, ongoing federal investigation into Donald Trump? Did you just admit that you want to do an investigate? Are you now claiming that because you are conducting an investigation into Trump, which you're never going to prosecute him, that that means you're going to withhold the documents by claiming that? I mean, just think about that. There's an ongoing investigation. We can't tell you who, but that's why all the Trump documents are being withheld. That's their trick that they're using. I think that's indeed what they are doing. The news is loud. Tax season is here.
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11:36Ben Meiselas:They're saying, we want you to out, we want to out our male colleagues here in the House of Representatives and in the Senate. I don't care whether you're a MAGA Republican, if you're a Democrat, if you're an Independent, doesn't matter. if you made hush money settlement payments for sexual assault, sexual harassment, anything like that, that should be revealed publicly. Don't we all agree with that? Here's what Lauren Boebert said. Let's play this clip.
12:04Donald Trump:Obviously, you called on Congressman Gonzalez to resign over alleged sexual misconduct. There's no resolution that would reveal a lot more about the culture of sexual misconduct in Congress. Are you supportive of that despite Congresswoman Mace? I'm absolutely supportive of Congresswoman Mace's resolution to uncover the other sexual harassment issues that take place here in our nation's capital and even further I am supportive of releasing the Congressional Hush Money Slush Fund. There's been tens of millions of dollars have been paid out over the years here in Congress to keep Hill staffers quiet about alleged alleged sexual misconduct and other forms of mistreatment in the office.
12:49Donald Trump:So I would love to see every congressman who's ever had to pay a settlement to a staffer and I'm certainly supportive of Nancy Mace's resolution. I guess what would be your message to a staffer who finds themselves in these terrible situations where members are being creepy to them? I mean it's awful. It's awful in any work or any workplace. It certainly should be held here. We have high standards. We agree to these standards. We promise hundreds of thousands of people that we are leaders, leaders of integrity, and it shouldn't be happening here.
13:20Ben Meiselas:And here's what Nancy Mace and Ana Paulina Luna told our reporter Pablo Monriquez. Here, play this clip.
13:28Donald Trump:You've called for the resignation of Tony Gonzalez. Have you heard anything back from leadership? No, we haven't. And I filed a resolution last night to publicly expose all the sexual harassment violations of members of Congress. I'll file it as privilege next week. Okay, got it. And force a vote on it. How quickly could a vote come? Two days. I mean, a day or two after. I'll file on the 4th. We'll probably vote on the 5th. And if there's something like the Epstein files, it's going to take months and months and months to see those. They'll probably just refer it to committee and sweep it under the rug like they always do.
13:56Donald Trump:Word will die. Everything goes to dying committee. Yep.
13:59Ben Meiselas:But if it's going to die in the committee, then how can the American people, how can Texans, his constituents specifically, know what happened?
14:04Donald Trump:Voters are going to have to turn out against him or, you know, force him to resign. I mean, I don't know how he moves forward. It was disgusting. It was shameful. And it's why many women feel like second class citizens. And we just got to say no more. He's got to go.
14:18Ben Meiselas:Thank you so much.
14:19Donald Trump:Thank you.
14:19Ben Meiselas:Now, also, as Donald Trump's dark past is surfacing as well, I got to give a hat tip to Ryan Goodman's piece. And here's what he uncovered as well. Five days after Jeffrey Epstein's arrest, federal authorities directed New York law enforcement authorities to stand down their investigation related to Epstein. New documents released by the DOJ show. So the attorney generals, the special victims unit SVU in New York City in Manhattan was told, do not investigate Epstein. The feds will handle it. And then the feds didn't really look after the co-conspirators and the feds protected the Epstein class.
14:56Ben Meiselas:Just look at these emails. Look at EFTA 156644. Here's what it says. These are from United States attorneys to each other. Memo to file regarding D-A-N-Y call. That's the District Attorney of New York. That's the Manhattan DA's office. Hi, do you have time for a call to discuss a victim who recently came to our attention with connections to Epstein-Maxwell? To be clear, we aren't suggesting investigating Maxwell for more crimes, but this victim has identified other potential traffickers. And we think it makes sense to do a bit of due diligence before deciding what, if anything, we should do with that information.
15:36Ben Meiselas:And then it goes on to say, apologies on the delay. Happy to chat. Let me know what works best for you. Okay, and then we found out what happened before then. We had some issues prior and post-arrest of Epstein with possible rumors of the district attorney of New York having a case on him. We eventually found out, I think after the arrest was made, that the NYPD special victims did fly to New Mexico to interview an Epstein victim, Farmer. After our arrest was public, some phone calls were made amongst NYPD brass, and I'm pretty sure their investigation was closed and differed to us. I'm not totally sure of the D-A-N-Y, that's again, District Attorney of New York's involvement into that investigation, or if they ever stopped.
16:22Ben Meiselas:Our assumption was obviously they closed anything they had after his death. It may be an issue though, if D-A-N-Y somehow was continuing an investigation into Prince Andrew or his best friend Maxwell. This is something we may want to figure out. I'm hoping they are continuing to defer this case to us, but we may not know without making a few inquiries. And then it goes on to say, so-and-so just called. FBI reached out to NYPD. This was in 2019. FBI reached out to NYPD leadership already, and they were told that Special Victims Unit has been directed to stand down, and that all Epstein stuff needs to go to and through us.
17:03Ben Meiselas:D-A-N-Y could still try to go forward with their own investigators. So I think it's worth a call over. I mean, it's right there, folks. You know, isn't it right there? I wanna show you a few more things as well. This was Congress Member Garcia last night before the State of the Union with Annie Farmer. Here's what, she's a survivor of Epstein. Let's play this clip.
17:26Donald Trump:Yesterday, I actually looked at this tranche of documents that was being described to you. We've been investigating this allegation now for a few weeks. And what I can confirm to what Lisa said and other reporting is that I have seen the manifest document that lays out the series of documents that includes interviews and other files. Within that grouping, it's clear that what's been presented to the Congress, there is a group of documents or document that is actually missing. I myself reviewed these exact documents, the manifest yesterday. I have seen other interviews and documentation with this survivor.
18:09Donald Trump:But those additional documents seem to be missing. And that's something that I confirmed as of yesterday in my visit to the Department of Justice. The idea that there is a possible cover-up or that we are hiding actual documentation of an alleged crime by the president of the United States, of which a survivor appears to have made, is incredibly serious. And the DOJ has to explain to the public, where are these possible documents and what do they say?
18:39Ben Meiselas:Here's what Thomas Massey said before the State of the Union. Let's play this clip.
18:43Donald Trump:Congress created the Department of Justice. Congress funds the Department of Justice, and Congress is responsible for the oversight of the Department of Justice. When will we see justice? I'll tell you what I've not seen. I've not seen any arrests from the revelations in the Epstein files. Over three million documents describing horrible things, describing unspeakable things. Much of it redacted. over two dozen people have resigned ceos members of government worldwide but i haven't seen any arrests or investigations here in the united states from this department of justice prince andrew duke of york who has since been stripped of his royalty his royal titles due to his affiliation with jeffrey epstein has been arrested peter mandelson who previously served as uk's ambassador to the United States, resigned in disgrace from United Kingdom's House of Lords and the Labour Party.
19:47Donald Trump:And he's been arrested. Former Prime Minister of Norway, Torbjorn Joglund, has been charged. But we don't see any charges, arrests or investigations in the United States. What do we see? We see our FBI director celebrating in the locker room at the Olympics overseas. It's fine to be proud of this country, but we should be proud of this country because we have a system of justice that works, and yet we do not. Who are the men that should be investigated? I'll name them right here. Leon Black. You don't even have to see past the redactions to see that this man needs to be investigated. Jess Staley, accused of terrible things.
20:38Donald Trump:It's right there in the files. Why is he not being investigated? And Leslie Wexner, why did the FBI list him as a co-conspirator in their own documents in a child sex trafficking case and then tell him, according to him, that they had no questions for him? Why is that? Well, the Epstein Files Transparency Act requires the DOJ and the FBI to disclose to us their internal memos and emails about how they made those decisions, whether to prosecute or not prosecute. Yet they have not delivered those memos. And we still don't have the memos and documents and emails from 2008 to explain why Jeffrey Epstein was given such a light sentence in what would have been an open and shut case of child sex trafficking, which allowed him to go back and recommit these terrible crimes, create hundreds of more victims, and ensnare so many other people in his conspiracy.
21:46Donald Trump:Where are those documents that describe those decisions? We need justice. We want the Department of Justice to get to work, and that's what they need to do now.
21:57Ben Meiselas:And here's what Nancy Mace had to say before the State of the Union, It was two days before. Here's what she had to say. Let's play this clip right here. Do you think there will be arrests in America?
22:08Donald Trump:No, I don't. I have no confidence in our justice system. I think it's a system of injustice. I think the way that these victims and others get justice are seeing people, if they're not going to go to jail, be removed from boards, be publicly shamed out of civil society, lose their companies. You're starting to see some of that. The dominoes are falling, but they're not falling fast enough. and that's why I'm really intent on getting all the files out there. I don't believe there's any more investigation. There are not going to be any more indictments because I believe Epstein was an intel asset maybe of one or multiple nations and that's why our country protected him and the information and videos and audio that he had on other world leaders.
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22:46Donald Trump:But until people go to jail, people want justice and that's the only way we're going to get it right now.
22:50Ben Meiselas:So we'll keep you posted every step of the way, but those are some, I think, big significant revelations coming out and you let me know what you think. Let's get to 7 million subscribers. We appreciate you. Thanks for watching.
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