Trump Panics as FBI Reports Surface in Epstein Files…

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2:11Ben Meiselas:Venmo Stash terms and exclusions apply. Max$100 cash back per month. See terms at Venmo.me slash stash terms. Donald Trump's FBI is freaking out right now with new revelations from the Epstein files. A bombshell report by Roger Sullenberger talks about how Trump's DOJ and FBI apparently are covering up that back in 2019, a individual, a girl who accused Donald Trump of sexual assault was interviewed at least four times by the FBI and DOJ. you can actually use a way back machine. And this is what Sullenberger did to find that an individual who made these accusations against Donald Trump actually had four separate interviews.

3:00Ben Meiselas:But where are these interviews? There's one that's available publicly where this individual says that she's uncomfortable talking about Trump and she doesn't want to talk about that right now out of fear of retaliation. There were four other interviews that just are missing right now. Remember from the Epstein files where it mentions that Epstein introduced Jane Doe to Trump, who subsequently forced her head down to his exposed penis, which he subsequently bit in response. Trump punched her in the head and kicked her out. Remember those allegations? Yeah, that individual spoke four times. Sullenberger did a great report here on his sub stack, and he pulled out from this Internet Archive screenshot of witness material that was posted back in January when there was that first mini-release of Epstein files by the DOJ.

3:54Ben Meiselas:Take a look right here. You'll see the kind of case number, which refers to just the kind of interview ID number of this individual. It is 3501.045. And then you'll see right here interviews on July 24th, 2019, August 7th, 2019, August 20th, 2019, and October 16th, 2019. And you'll see here there are 302s. So the 302s are the FBI interviews with individuals making accusations. Then there are interview notes. Then also there are photographs, intake reports, and most of this material is missing. And this individual was viewed as credible enough to have multiple, multiple interviews and potentially also entered into a settlement agreement with the Epstein estate.

4:53Ben Meiselas:So that's one reason the FBI is freaking out. I'm going to tell you what they're doing in a moment because Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, kid you not, just hosted a podcast together on Dan Bongino's podcast. The gang is back. The two individuals who were out there who made their entire careers talking about Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, they're back now and their shtick is the cover-up. I'll show you that in a moment. But there's additional information that they're freaking out about. Remember when the Midas Touch Network broke the story a few months back when the Trump regime did like a first release, a small release of Epstein files?

5:38Ben Meiselas:Do you remember when we reported the following? In data set eight of the Epstein files release, which was briefly posted on the Justice Department website, there is a letter alleged to be sent from Jeffrey Epstein to convicted sex offender Larry Nassar. Remember, he was the club doctor who sexually assaulted hundreds, if not thousands, of girls. Remember the Nassar story? The letter, which is postmarked just days after Epstein died, reads, Dear L.N., As you know by now, I have taken the short route home. Good luck. We shared one thing, our love and caring for young ladies at the hope they'd reach their full potential.

6:21Ben Meiselas:Our president shares our love of young, nubile girls. When a young beauty walked by, he loved to grab snatch, whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls of the system. Life is unfair. Yours, Jay Epstein. That letter was returned to sender. Reporting indicates that Epstein did indeed send a letter to Nassar from prison before his alleged death by suicide, which I don't think is a death by suicide. I don't think anybody thinks that anymore. The contents of that letter were never revealed. Additional documents show that the letter was submitted for handwriting analysis, though it's unclear if investigators reached a conclusion on whether or not this was definitively written by Epstein.

7:02Ben Meiselas:These images are from the Bates number 36086 to 36085. Remember that letter? There's a copy of the letter right here. And remember, the Department of Justice attacked us. You remember that? And they posted, the FBI has confirmed this alleged letter from Jeffrey Epstein to Nassar is fake. The fake letter was received by the jail and flagged for the FBI at the time. The FBI made this conclusion based on the following facts. The writing does not appear to match Epstein's. The letter was postmarked three days after Epstein's death out of Northern Virginia when he was jailed in New York. The return address did not list the jail where Epstein was held and did not include his inmate number, which was required for outgoing mail.

7:45Ben Meiselas:The fake letter serves as a reminder that just because the documents released by the Department of Justice does not make the allegations or claims within the documents factual. Nevertheless, the DOJ will continue to release all material required by law. And we talked about how it would actually make sense that it takes time for these letters to process. It would make sense that it would process through Virginia. That's one of the hubs where prison mail goes. The letter was found inside the prison where Epstein was inside that facility. So that's a pretty good indication. And so there was nothing that suggested that it was definitely a fake.

8:21Ben Meiselas:We wanted to wait and see what the results were from the handwriting laboratory. Well, as Jacob Shamsian explains, remember when an apparent letter from Jeffrey Epstein to Larry Nassar was in the December Epstein files that the Midas Touch Network posted At first, the December batch showed it was sent to the FBI for handwriting analysis. Well, now we actually have what the results are from the laboratory report dated September 9th, 2020. Guess what? It's different than what Trump's FBI and DOJ said when they were attacking Midas Touch in December. The FBI lab could not figure out whether it was or was not Epstein's handwriting because it claimed it did not have enough writing samples of Jeffrey Epstein, just like everyone else on the internet two months ago.

9:11Ben Meiselas:Results of the examination. This was the conclusion. We have the conclusion now. Meaningful handwriting comparisons cannot be conducted between question items four and five and item three. The purported known writing of Jeffrey Epstein due to the lack of verified known writing submitted for comparison that is comparable in style, wording, and format to the question items. Well, in my opinion, that's suspicious because there was a lot of Epstein handwriting out there. So why could they not find enough Epstein handwriting samples to make the comparison? Do you remember when I showed you two days ago the letters from the CIA and the NSA that was sent back to Epstein's lawyer where they made public records requests and said, we cannot confirm or deny whether or not Epstein was an asset of the CIA or worked in the intelligence department.

10:10Ben Meiselas:And thus we are withholding any documents without acknowledging whether those documents exist or not. Just put this all together right now. And I would say it raises a lot of a lot of red flags.

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11:41Ben Meiselas:So that brings me to what the FBI was doing yesterday and today. Well, you had Dan Bongino, who used to be the number two at the FBI, along with Kash Patel, who's currently the FBI director. They are co-hosting a podcast together yesterday. I just want you to think about it. You have the FBI director and former deputy FBI director co-hosting a podcast. Let's just say that that's not normal. As a reminder, these two individuals were the biggest people who talked about it. they made their careers. Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. The FBI is covering it. And now, in my opinion, they're the biggest cover uppers.

12:23Ben Meiselas:So here's the way they describe everything. And they try to avoid talking about defiles themselves. Like they're both on there and they're not even acknowledging what everybody's talking about. I mean, to me, in my opinion, how pathetic and weak is that? But what they say is, look, working for the FBI is just too difficult, they said. They said there's just so many tough decisions and it's so hard to do their job. The hell are you? It's too hard. These people whining about the job and how hard it is. And, you know, when Donald Trump has to make a level 11 decisions, dude, what are you talking about?

13:00Kash Patel:Here, play this clip. Everything's a level 10 decision, Cash. A level 10, meaning there's a, pardon the language, but a shitty decision and a shittier one. Because if it was, if there was a good decision to be made, someone else made it. And then when, when those decisions, that's every day, I know, you know, this, cause I would knock on your door and you'd be like, what now? And I'd be like, here we go again. Like something else will come up. But I just want to put into perspective for folks out there when, when that decision can't even be made by, by, by me, it goes to you. When it doesn't go to you, it goes like to the president's desk.

13:32Kash Patel:He's dealing with like level 11 decisions. And that's the thing in DC is that's why the batting average isn't always going to be a thousand. There's no good call to be made or someone else would have made it. There's just really tough decisions where, you know, there's a shit call and a shittier call. And listen, that's what we signed up for. That's how it rolls.

13:49Donald Trump:Look, yeah, these are difficult decisions, Dan. That's why you volunteered to jump back in. It wasn't just going to be, hey, we're going to do this job. It's going to be super easy. We're not going to have to make any hard decisions and we're not going to have to combat a press corps that has largely been biased and full of inaccurate reporting. But we made those decisions collectively in the best interest of the nation. And if we hadn't, then none of this would be true. None of this would be possible. If President Trump had made the hard decisions to allow us and give us the resources that we need and to back the blue in law enforcement and to prioritize working with state and local authorities, then we wouldn't be able to do what we did.

14:30Donald Trump:But you're right. We had a lot of hard decisions and that's comes with the territory of the job but once you look outside of the cauldron of washington dc and this is one of the things that you know i'm trying to remind myself of every day outside of here there is a different america than the one that lives in the national capital region and i try to remind myself every day when making those difficult decisions that you talked about that we make on a daily basis that we are making a decision collectively for the rest of America, not just for the minority of people that are living part-time in Washington, D.C., pulling the levers on Capitol Hill and such.

15:05Ben Meiselas:And then, because they don't want to talk about all of the things that I'm bringing up, when that's what people want to hear, they start talking about how they did the greatest job destroying Antifa. They create a fake boogeyman and then say they destroyed it. and everyone's like what the hell are you even talking about here watch this clip also on a um

15:29Kash Patel:another related topic antifa you know i covered in a earlier in my show today and in yesterday's show how the prior fbi director and the prior president uh biden and even obama had played down the antifa thread it's an idea uh you and i know that's that's bullshit it's not an idea when when when actual action follows the idea. There was an action product that resulted from said ideas. Also, we, you know, with the Prairieland investigation and others, there's been actual action to take down and dismantle this entire ring of people.

16:03Donald Trump:You're right. We set out to actually activate intelligence-based operations. This includes Antifa. And Dan, you know this, how many people were arrested related to Prairieland? We're over two dozen federal arrests. We're in the middle of federal trial in five of those defendants this week, again, in Texas, 19 people have been convicted for acts of violence related to Antifa. It's in the indictment. You don't got to believe me or you. Everybody can go read the public indictment. And it didn't just happen there. It happened in Cop City in Georgia, where we had to go rearrest everybody because the state authorities couldn't get their act together to produce the enough information to take that to trial.

16:42Donald Trump:So we did.

16:42Ben Meiselas:Now, just to remind you the history of these two people, here is a epic video that MS Now previously made at Bongino, Patel, Bondi and others about the Epstein files. Let's take this. Let's show you this clip.

16:58Kash Patel:Please do not let that story go. Who has Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book?

17:03Donald Trump:black book fbi but who that is that i mean there's that's under direct control of the director of the fbi what the hell are the house republicans doing they have the majority you can't get the list put on your big boy pants and let us know who the pedophiles are would you declassify the epstein

17:24Kash Patel:files yeah yeah i would all right i guess i would i think that less so because you know you don't know it you don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there because there's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world uh but i think i would this isn't about epstein or 9-11 or jfk or rfk it is but it isn't it's about a bigger thing if you're lying about that you're lying about everything who's on the epstein tapes folks who's on those tapes who's in those black books why have they been hiding it and this is something donald trump has talked about

17:59Ben Meiselas:The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen?

18:05Dan Bongino:It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump. Everything's going to come out to the public. The public has a right to know. Americans have a right to know.

18:16Ben Meiselas:And then last week, Bongino had Trump on. And rather than talk about the Epstein files, here's what he talked about. Let's play this clip right here.

18:28Kash Patel:The past year has been absolutely incredible. And given that you're a results guy, obviously we were friends before, but working for you is a completely different experience. You are a results guy. You're a spreadsheets guy. How would you get to a net present value positive with what you're doing? And I'll never forget an Oval Office meeting we had in light of the D.C. crime numbers. And I hadn't had a homicide in a record amount of time in D.C., thanks to your leadership. We're sitting in the Oval Office and I was talking to you about the homicide rate plunging. And it was only about three months into my term there.

19:03Kash Patel:I said, Mr. President, what we're doing down in Memphis and elsewhere is working. And I'll never forget. I said, we're doing the broken windows, Rudy Giuliani style policing. You looked at me and you said, hey, how do we take this nationwide? And you never, ever let go. You stayed on top of it with me and Cash. You were all over it. You're such a hands-on guy. And it was just so refreshing to work for someone who doesn't get into all the hype and all the nonsense, but cares about the numbers. It's probably your business background or what it is, but amazing job on that.

19:31Ben Meiselas:So how are other libertarian and right-wing podcasters handling this? Well, Dave Smith voted for Trump in 2024. He did a whole video. He's a libertarian. Why is a libertarian he's voting for Donald Trump? Here's what he just said on his podcast. This was a Trump voter 2024. Play this clip. Nothing could vindicate Donald Trump in this. Even if all the files were released and there's no evidence that Donald Trump did anything

20:00Kash Patel:like, you know, did anything with girls or young girls or anything like that.

20:05Ben Meiselas:He still tried to cover it all up. So it kind of doesn't matter. He's not vindicated. This is just, this is insane. And here's what he said again. Here, play this clip. He did a 180 and said there's no such thing as the Epstein files. It's a Democratic hoax, all of that. And so one of the major themes from then till now for me has been like, dude, how can any of you guys still defend Donald Trump? And here is right wing podcaster Cigar Unjeti. Here's what he had to say yesterday. Play this clip.