Trump Panics in War and Calls to End NATO

1 Apr 2026 · 21 min · 9 chapters

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In short

Donald Trump’s alleged “panic” over the U.S.-led war escalation involving Iran, his reported calls to withdraw from NATO, and disputed claims about a possible ceasefire. The host argues Trump is manipulating markets and lying, while Iran continues strikes and controls the Strait of Hormuz.

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Key claims

Trump told The Telegraph and Reuters he wants the U.S. out of NATO, calling it a “paper tiger” and citing alleged Putin agreement. The host claims Trump and Netanyahu invaded Iran without consulting allies, and that a Biden-era law requires a two-thirds Senate vote to withdraw from NATO. The host says Iran’s ceasefire claims are false and that Iran’s foreign ministry rejects U.S. “negotiation” framing.

Notable examples

Iran strikes in Bahrain (an Amazon data facility), Tel Aviv, and attacks on Arab neighbors; Qatar energy LNG disruptions; Albanese and Starmer addressing oil-supply shock; Reuters interview with Steve Holland; CNN/SSRS approval numbers; UK Starmer resisting pressure to join the war.

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Trump's NATO Withdrawal and War in Iran

1:53 to 4:27

An analysis of Trump's statements on NATO and the ongoing conflict in Iran.

“Donald Trump continues to panic all morning long as his disastrous war in Iran continues to escalate.”

Global Reactions to the War

4:27 to 7:35

Explore how world leaders are responding to the war and its implications.

“from Iran and just let our, I guess, former allies deal with the problem with the Strait of Hormuz.”

Trump's Foreign Policy Critique

7:35 to 10:01

A critique of Trump's foreign policy actions and their consequences.

“You know, when he said, look, this is not our war.”

Iran's Military Strategy and U.S. Relations

10:01 to 14:00

Discussing Iran's military actions and the complexities of U.S. negotiations.

“That's just what I just said there, are undisputed facts of what is happening.”

Trump's Negotiation Tactics and Iran's Response

14:00 to 15:02

Learn about Trump's history in negotiations and Iran's strategic decisions.

“And perhaps a deal to be made that was stronger than even Obama's deal.”

Polls Reflect Trump's Struggles

15:02 to 16:20

Explore the latest poll numbers revealing Trump's declining approval ratings.

“Why would they agree to a ceasefire when they could drag this out for many, many, many more months and cause more pain if they're not going to get anything in return?”

Keir Starmer's Stance on War and NATO

16:20 to 17:07

Understand Keir Starmer's position on the war and his views on NATO.

“And here's what he said about Trump trying to put pressure on him.”

Geopolitical Implications of the Iran War

17:07 to 17:46

Delve into how the war in Iran affects international relations, specifically with China and Russia.

“While it's sad to say that Trump delusionally believes that he is allied with Putin while Putin helps Iran destroy the United States.”

Trump's Legal Battles Over Birthright Citizenship

17:46 to 18:34

Examine the ongoing Supreme Court case regarding Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship.

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1:53Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump continues to panic all morning long as his disastrous war in Iran continues to escalate. Donald Trump is now saying he wants the United States to withdraw from NATO. Donald Trump gave interviews with The Telegraph and with Reuters. In both interviews, he said he wants the U.S. out of NATO. He says NATO is a paper tiger. He said that he and Vladimir Putin talk all the time about how NATO is a paper tiger and is useless. Donald Trump then attacked the Navy for the United Kingdom and said they're useless. They don't even have a Navy. He attacked Keir Starmer. And Donald Trump told Reuters that in an address to the nation that he's supposed to give tonight at 9 Eastern, 6 Pacific, he may make the case why the U.S.

2:45Ben Meiselas:should be out of NATO. Now, there is a law that was signed by former President Biden, which says that unless there is a two-thirds vote in the Senate, a president can't unilaterally withdraw from NATO. By the way, you know who sponsored that bill, which became a law? It was Marco Rubio when he was a senator and Senator Cain. It was a bipartisan bill. And now, of course, Marco Rubio working with Donald Trump to pull the United States out of NATO. Donald Trump and Netanyahu went it alone in this catastrophic war against Iran. They didn't consult any allies. Donald Trump didn't talk to NATO before the invasion.

3:28Ben Meiselas:He didn't talk to allies in the Middle East. Then he just invaded Iran. There's a quagmire now where Iran now controls the Strait of Hormuz. Iran continues to strike its Arab nation neighbors, where the U.S. has military bases and interests. Heck, last night, as I reported this morning, and we can confirm this now, Iran hit an Amazon facility, an Amazon data facility in Bahrain, which is exactly what Iran said it was going to start to strike, American corporate interests now in the region as well, despite what Donald Trump and his sycophants say, where they go, Iran's been totally decimated, Iran's been totally destroyed, they don't exist anymore, they don't have leaders.

4:13Ben Meiselas:That's completely and utterly false. And Donald Trump will be addressing the nation tonight. Who knows what the heck he's going to say. Lots of people also believe that Donald Trump may be saying he's going to, you know, withdraw from Iran and just let our, I guess, former allies deal with the problem with the Strait of Hormuz. We're just going to bail on it. We're not going to do anything because, you know, as we head into Easter this weekend, the stock market closes down on Friday. Perhaps Donald Trump will try to do a ground invasion and use the disinformation that's being spread as a way to do a ground invasion.

4:52Ben Meiselas:But the reality is Donald Trump lies about absolutely everything. This has been a catastrophic war at every level. Even this morning, Donald Trump posts on social media to manipulate the market. Then he tries to spread this message to Axios and others. He goes, Iran's president has demanded that we enter into a ceasefire. They're begging us for a ceasefire right now. And then Iran's foreign ministry said, that's not true. We're not asking for a ceasefire. We do not want a ceasefire. I mean, what Iran has said is that they would be willing to end the war because it takes two to end a war. Multiple countries, if multiple countries are involved in the war, if they have security guarantees, real security guarantees, reparations for the war, they can keep their ballistic missiles.

5:39Ben Meiselas:They won't be prohibited in the future from enriching uranium if they want to. And they want American military bases out of the Middle East. They said those are some of their non-negotiable points. Oh, and they continue to control the Strait of Hormuz. And Iran continues to say, not only have we not offered a ceasefire, we're not having negotiations. Now, Iran's foreign minister said, look, the Trump regime tries to reach out to us, whether it's through Pakistan or whether it's directly, and they want a ceasefire. They want to end this thing. But Iran says that's not a negotiation. We have not agreed to any framework of a negotiation.

6:18Ben Meiselas:We have completely rejected the US 15-point plan, and we've made clear what our non-negotiables are. We're the ones who will set the deadlines, not the United States. We will not have to bow down to arbitrary deadlines is what they're saying. I want to point out as well that we also saw a lot of world leaders addressing their nations right now to talk about the shock to the oil supply and the harm that's about to unfold. It already is unfolding, but world leaders are preparing their countries for what's about to take place. Anthony Albanese in Australia addressed his nation earlier today saying it's going to be very difficult in the months ahead.

7:08Ben Meiselas:I mean, the shock, even if the war were to end right now, which it's not going to, the shock to the oil supply, the shock to fertilizer, helium, just lots of stuff in general, the shock to the supply there is going to have this cascading effect, even if the war work to end. And Australia's Prime Minister Albanese preparing his people. Meanwhile, in the UK, Prime Minister Keir Starmer addressed the people of the United Kingdom as well. He addressed his country. You know, when he said, look, this is not our war. We're not getting dragged into it. Donald Trump has tried to bully me over and over again.

7:46Ben Meiselas:I'm not going to be bullied. We're not being dragged into this war. Donald Trump's tactics are not working. So we've seen that. Let me just pull out the receipts, you know, as we do here on the Midas Touch Network. I'll go piece by piece. Just a reminder, hit subscribe. Help us get to 7 million subscribers while you're at it. Subscribe to Scott McFarlane's YouTube channel. As you know, Scott McFarlane joined the Midas Touch Network and his YouTube channel is just soaring right now. OK, the front page of the Telegraph this morning was Donald Trump saying, I'm strongly considering pulling the U.S.

8:20Ben Meiselas:out of NATO. Again, as I mentioned before, he said that he blames NATO for what's going on right now in Iran, for not joining him after he initiated the war without telling anybody other than Netanyahu. He said NATO is a paper tiger. He said that Vladimir Putin tells him, I mean, direct quote, Vladimir Putin knows that NATO is a paper tiger. And so I agree with Putin. Putin says that is what basically Donald Trump is saying. Donald Trump said the following on NATO. Also, of course, Trump has to attack Ukraine. We've been there automatically, including Ukraine. Ukraine wasn't our problem. It was a test.

8:59Ben Meiselas:And we were there for them. And we would always be there for them. But they weren't there for us. Even right now, as President Zelensky of Ukraine tries to help the United States and say, hey, I've got the drone interceptor technology, Ukraine probably has the advanced drone offensive and defensive systems in the world, not just the technology, but the know-how how to deal with them. I mean, I thought, I think I saw Ukraine's interception rate is over 90 % in the month of March of the ballistic missiles and drones now that Russia is using, which are made with Iran. And Donald Trump continues to attack Zelensky over and over again.

9:38Ben Meiselas:And Trump continues to lift oil sanctions on Russia, lift sanctions on Russian vessels, invite the Russian Duma to Congress to meet with MAGA Republican Congress members, as well as with the State Department, while we all know that Russia's helping Iran in the war. And Donald Trump is out there helping Russia and hurting Ukraine. It's just that simple. It's very, very clear. We don't have to be hyperbolic. That's just what I just said there, are undisputed facts of what is happening. Then here's what Donald Trump said about here. Starmer, the prime minister of UK, he can do whatever he wants. It doesn't matter.

10:14Ben Meiselas:All Starmer wants is windmills, costly windmills that are driving your energy prices through the roof, than Donald Trump posted on social media. Iran's new regime president, much less radicalized and far more intelligent than his predecessors, has just asked the United States of America for a ceasefire. Didn't happen. Not true. 100 % false. Never happened. Donald Trump goes on to say, We will consider when Hormuz straight is open, free and clear. Until then, we are blasting Iran to oblivion, or as they say, back to the stone ages, DJT. And again, blasting them to oblivion, back to the stone ages.

10:54Ben Meiselas:As I think I said on the podcast I did with my brothers on Monday, or maybe I said it yesterday during a live podcast, he sounds like the bad guy, like a corny bad guy from some cartoon I watched growing up. We're going to bomb you to the stone ages. All you're doing is further building resilience amongst the Iranian people who are very proud cultural heritage people. Even if they didn't like the Ayatollah, and perhaps I'm putting that lightly, you're just creating them to have more solidarity in fighting back right now when you say things like that as well. Iran's foreign ministry responds right away.

11:31Ben Meiselas:Trump's claims that Iran requested a ceasefire are baseless and false. And of course, we know they're baseless and false because there isn't a ceasefire. Iran continues to strike its Arab neighbor nations in retaliation. It also strikes Israel, successfully hitting Tel Aviv and other areas. And Iran's shooting less ballistics and using less drones, but more precise strikes is what's taking place. They still control the Strait of Hormuz. It has a leadership structure in place that's actually more for controlling the Strait of Hormuz and not ending the war than what the prior leadership was. But it's still the Islamic Republic.

12:16Ben Meiselas:It's a complete catastrophe for the United States. Again, he continues to attack the UK. You don't have a navy. You don't have this. You don't have that. I mentioned some other incidents, the Bahrain incident involving the Amazon facility, Israel and Tel Aviv. UAE continues to get hit by Iran. Kuwait continues to get hit. Remember, a Kuwaiti ship off the coast of Dubai got hit. um qatar's defense ministry said that three missiles were launched from iran adding that while two were intercepted one hit an oil tanker leased by qatar energy in qatari waters now qatar energy already declared a force majeure uh and 20 of its facility its lng facility has already been uh shut down as a result of the iranian strikes after the u.s uh and israel hit the south par's facility in Iran.

13:08Ben Meiselas:Iran hit the northern facilities in Qatar. Remember, that was like a week and a half ago. So Qatar energy is reeling. That's what you get Qatar when you give Donald Trump a jet. You give him a big jumbo jet and you get, as Donald Trump would say, bomb to the Stone Ages or bomb to oblivion right there. As I mentioned, Trump spoke with the Reuters folks as well. Trump told Steve Holland in a brief interview he will express his disgust for NATO at tonight's speech and that he is absolutely considering withdrawing the United States from NATO. Trump says the United States will be out of Iran pretty quickly.

13:47Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump said we may still continue to do spot hits if needed. By the way, that's why Iran doesn't want to do a ceasefire. One, they don't want to negotiate with the United States because they know the United States is a bad faith actor in any negotiations. The last two times there were negotiations, Trump used the negotiation to invade in the middle of a negotiation where there were, by all accounts, based on the independent mediators in the room and other independent sources in the room like the British National Security Advisor, there was a deal to be made. And perhaps a deal to be made that was stronger than even Obama's deal.

14:22Ben Meiselas:But Trump and Netanyahu invaded anyway. way. And, you know, everything since then has continued to escalate and escalate. And, you know, and so why would Iran want to even do a negotiation in the first place? Why would they want to do a ceasefire? Why would they want, you know, if they know that the US is just going to build up and do spot hits, no matter what, that's why they said, we need security guarantees, because otherwise, this is going to keep on happening over and over again. We know that the United States munitions and Israeli munitions are running out. They know that. It's not like a secret to them.

14:58Ben Meiselas:They're aware. They know how unpopular this war is in the United States. It's not a secret to them. Why would they agree to a ceasefire when they could drag this out for many, many, many more months and cause more pain if they're not going to get anything in return? I mean, that's just one of the things right there. Meanwhile, Donald Trump's approval, according to a new cnn poll conducted by ssrs how trump is handling his job as president 35 approved 64 disapproved similar to i think it's lowest in the cnn poll we saw the umass amherst yougov poll where trump's approval was only at 33 you look at cnn's poll and donald trump's handling of the economy.

15:42Ben Meiselas:Right now, it is at 31%, 69 % disapproved. I mean, these are truly just horrific and ugly numbers for Donald Trump. I'll just show you quickly what Prime Minister Kiir Starmer said on Iran. These are very short clips, but I want you to hear what he said. Here, play this clip. Well, it's very important that we're clear there's been a good deal of pressure on me to change my position in relation to joining the war. And I'm not going to change my position on the war. So whatever the pressure, whatever the noise, I'm the British prime minister, and I have to act in our national interests. And here's what he said about Trump trying to put pressure on him.

16:23Ben Meiselas:Let's play it. Well, I do think that we should strengthen our cooperation on defense, security, energy emissions, and the economy. And on the economy, the steps we've taken and so far have been in relation to the single market. And I'm ambitious that we can do more in relation to the single market. And ultimately for Keir Starmer, it's about strengthening the relationship of the UK with the EU, moving away from, you know, the special relationship with the United States, European Union, Ukraine, Canada, Australia, forming a strong bond. You know, I think NATO pretty much only exists right now in name only.

17:07Ben Meiselas:While it's sad to say that Trump delusionally believes that he is allied with Putin while Putin helps Iran destroy the United States. And, you know, there was this front page of The Economist that has Xi Jinping on it. And the front page from today says, never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. We spoke to The Economist writes, we spoke to diplomats, advisors, scholars, experts, current and former officials in china almost all of them see the war in iran as a grave american error and it's you know just significantly benefiting uh china russia and iran so what's the u.s doing today as well the u.s is now once again trying to attack denmark and greenland saying that the u.s wants access to three additional sites so back to attacking greenland right now.

17:59Ben Meiselas:They're going to bring that up again. And I'll do another take on this or Popak will do a take on this this morning. There are oral arguments right now in the Supreme Court case where Donald Trump signed an unlawful executive order to get rid of birthright citizenship. The case is called Trump versus Barbara. The 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution sets forth that people who are born in the United States are citizens of the United States. by an executive order. Donald Trump is saying that that is unlawful. Donald Trump's executive order is what's unlawful. There's also a statute, 8 U.S.C.

18:36Ben Meiselas:Section 1401, a case called Wong Kim Ark, which says that birthright citizenship is the law of the land in the United States. And at least as of now, even from the right wing Supreme Court justices, they do not think that there's any merit to Trump's executive order. And it seems that Trump's going to lose. And Trump's actually in the Supreme Court right now watching it, watching what a loser he is. So we'll keep you posted, of course, all these things throughout the day. Hit subscribe, help us get to 7 million subscribers. We appreciate you as always.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump panicking as he has lost all control of his disastrous war in Iran and he now saying the United States should eliminate NATO while he continues to also lie and pretend Iran is offering him ceasefire deals so he can manipulate the markets.

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