In short
The episode argues that Donald Trump and allies are shifting blame for an Iran nuclear deal onto J.D. Vance, while war hawks and Israeli officials allegedly try to undermine the agreement.
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Key claims
Leaks claim Rubio, Pete Hegseth, and others opposed the Iran deal, but Vance “architected” it. Vance is said to be traveling to Geneva to sign with Iran’s parliament leader M.B. Galabaf and to appear in media. Lindsey Graham is quoted urging Vance be part of the congressional process, framed as a threat to undermine the deal. The host alleges Israel blamed Vance for providing classified information to Erdogan about arming Kurds to invade Iran, and that Vance’s chief of staff resigned. The host also cites reports of Trump privately doubting Vance’s succession prospects.
Notable examples
Graham’s quoted statement; alleged Vance-Erdogan classified-info leak; Vance comparing the deal to WWII negotiations; Vance’s remarks about lowering energy costs and “wins for the American people.”
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Blame Game: J.D. Vance and the Iran Deal
0:00 to 0:33
Analyze the dynamics of the Iran deal and Trump's shifting responsibility.
“Chasing deadlines, writing status reports, updating stakeholders.”
Trump's Blame Game: J.D. Vance and the Iran Deal
1:30 to 3:40
Analyze the dynamics of the Iran deal and Trump's shifting responsibility.
“Galabaf, to do a media appearance, if you will.”
Lindsey Graham's Concerns and Neocon Strategies
3:40 to 5:30
Examine Lindsey Graham's statements and the neocon position on the Iran deal.
“We'll give you unfettered permission structures to engage in genocidal warfare.”
Behind the Scenes: Leaks and Accusations
5:30 to 7:30
Explore the leaks about J.D. Vance and the allegations of treason.
“A New York Times story that talked about how J.D.”
J.D. Vance's Media Strategy and Health Signals
7:30 to 9:20
Discuss Vance's media appearances and implications about Trump's health.
“If you go back to World War II, if you go back to World War I, if you go back to every major conflict in human history, they all end with some kind of negotiation.”
Negotiation Comparisons: Vance and Historical Context
9:20 to 11:10
Analyze Vance's claims comparing the Iran deal to historical negotiations.
“So if you're on Medicare or will be soon, dial 82 Medicare and get honest advice from chapter.”
Public Perception and Polling on Vance's Future
11:10 to 13:00
Review polling data on J.D. Vance and discuss his political future.
“And this was a leak to the New York Times as well as the others in the Trump regime are now trying to undermine J.D.”
Vance's Message to the American People
13:00 to 14:01
Summarize Vance's concluding remarks on the benefits of the Iran deal.
“I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding.”
Vance's Perspective on American Challenges
14:01 to 15:50
Discussion on J.D. Vance's views regarding energy costs and American struggles.
“I think we've got something great for you.”
Transcript
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0:39That's Thrive Cosmetics, C-A-U-S-E-M-E-T-I-C-S dot com slash shine26. Donald Trump and others in his regime are already trying to throw J.D. Vance under the bus for the deal with Iran. You have leaks going out to various media outlets right now that Marco Rubio, Hegseth, and others were very much against the deal with Iran. But ultimately, it was J.D. Vance, and they also say Jared Kushner and Whitcoff. But this was being led by J.D. Vance, they said, who ultimately decided to do this deal with Iran. And now J.D. Vance is going to be the person, apparently, going to Geneva on Friday to sign in person in Geneva with Iran's parliament leader, M.B.
1:30Galabaf, to do a media appearance, if you will. And now all you're hearing leak after leak from the Trump regime is that J.D. Vance was the architect of this. Don't blame us for this deal. It's all on J.D. Vance. Now, you may recall, it was actually several weeks ago when Donald Trump was having a press conference in the Oval Office, and he specifically said, if this doesn't go the way I say it's going to go, if we don't do regime change, if we aren't able to completely, whatever Trump was saying, obliterate all of Iran and destroy their ballistic missiles and take control and put our proxs in, it's all going to be J.D.
2:14Vance's fault. He actually said that. And now you have people like Lindsey Graham and other MAGA neocon war hawks saying it's J.D. Vance is the architect. Let's just see what J.D. Vance is going to tell us. So here's what Lindsey Graham and other kind of MAGA Trumpers are now saying. I am pleased to hear the memorandum of understanding with Iran to allow the Strait of Ramos to open has been agreed to. I will be watching closely the ensuing negotiations regarding Iran's nuclear program and other matters. I'm somewhat concerned that Iran's view of the agreement seems different than what the American negotiating team is claiming.
2:54Under our law, any nuclear deal with Iran will be sent to Congress for review and a vote. I look forward to reviewing the final product, and I believe it is imperative that the architect of the deal, Vice President Vance and his negotiating partners, be part of the process in presenting the final deal to Congress. Congratulations to all in getting us to this point. Time will tell. And let's be very clear, that is a threat right there, that Graham and these other neocons will be working with Netanyahu and others in Netanyahu's regime to try to undermine this deal. Now, I also find it fascinating that people like Lindsey Graham and other MAGA Republicans who refuse to pass a War Powers Resolution Act to actually assert Congress's authority over this war to begin with and to ensure that Donald Trump cannot continue engaging in this unlawful and catastrophic war are now saying, hey, JD, we're going to make you testify in front of Congress and justify the deal that you did for peace.
4:10We'll give you unfettered permission structures to engage in genocidal warfare. But when it comes to the peace side, that's when the neocons are like, we want you to show up and speak to us. Now, we knew a lot of this was going on behind the scenes as well, in that Israel was Netanyahu was leaking to Israeli press, and we also learned about it from U.S. press, that Israel blamed J.D. Vance for providing what Israel said was classified information to Turkey's leader, Erdogan, about the Israeli plan to work with the United States to arm the Kurds to invade Iran. and Netanyahu basically accused Vance of treason, leaking classified information early on in the war to Erdogan.
5:05Erdogan then called Donald Trump and said, you can't arm the Kurds because Turkey said we don't want them near our border, so we don't want you to arm them and allow them to invade Iran. And then we've also seen numerous leaks where it appeared that J.D. Vance, or J.D. Vance's chief of staff, who, by the way, suddenly resigned at the end of last week, appeared to be the source of it. A New York Times story that talked about how J.D. Vance was the only person in the cabinet room who was warning Donald Trump not to do this catastrophic war. There was an article in The Atlantic, which basically seemed like it was written by J.D.
5:45Vance saying that he doesn't support the war and that people like Hegseth and Rubio and others were giving Donald Trump incorrect and false information about this war from the outset. But it seems that the knives are out, if you will, for J.D. Vance in the regime. And they're all kind of circling and saying, if anything goes wrong, or we're going to make it go wrong, and then blame it on J.D. Vance. And so J.D. Vance was trotted out there to do numerous media appearances to try to justify this deal. And the first thing he wanted everybody to know as they're all out to get him. And I think this is J.D.
6:29Vance also, I think kind of sending a warning shot to those people also. J.D. Vance is like, we all know how healthy Donald Trump is, right? Trump is so healthy right now. Wink, wink, wink. And again, I viewed what J.D. Vance is saying here as signaling to others like, we all know that I may have to step in and be the president soon. Watch what he says here, play this clip. But, you know, my sense of the president's health is that it's off the charts good. His focus, his energy, his constant grinding. I mean, the presidency is a crazy job. You're constantly have, you know. And then J.D. Vance tries to explain that actually he says World War II was resolved in a very similar negotiation as the way I negotiated this deal with Iran.
7:25We all know how World War II was resolved, right, through a similar negotiation. I genuinely don't know. That's not how World War II ended. But this is what J.D. Vance said here. Let's play this clip right here. If you go back to World War II, if you go back to World War I, if you go back to every major conflict in human history, they all end with some kind of negotiation. And to remind you, this was from a few weeks back or so when Donald Trump blamed J.D. Vance if anything would go wrong with the war. He said it would be J.D. Vance's fault. Let's play this clip. He's working on the deal, right?
8:03How's that moving? Is it OK? The big deal? You see it happening? So if it doesn't happen, I'm blaming J.D. Vince. If it does happen, I'm taking full credit. No, I think it'll be. I think it has to happen. I think they're desperate.
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9:50Now, in terms of J.D. Vance also being thrown under the bus, there have been numerous leaks within the White House, which may be coming from Hegseth, may be coming from Rubio supporters. and this is what the Daily Mail published in the past week or so. J.D. Vance is considering abandoning his run for the presidency in 2028. J.D. Vance, now the lone dove in Donald Trump's cabinet after Tulsi Gabbard's resignation, has been left more isolated than ever and is even considering abandoning a run for the presidency in 2028. Multiple sources tell the Daily Mail. Also, there were numerous sources that were also telling media outlets that Donald Trump would constantly mock J.D.
10:40Vance for taking lots of vacations. They would mock J.D. Vance for dropping the Heisman Trophy or the college football championship trophy when the winning team visited the White House. They would talk about how Trump would mock all of the vacations J.D. Vance would take and that Susie Wiles would criticize J.D. Vance for all of his social media habits. They didn't like his social media posts. And this was a leak to the New York Times as well as the others in the Trump regime are now trying to undermine J.D. Vance. Trump privately questions whether J.D. Vance has what it takes to become the Republican standard bearer after him, New York Times reports.
11:27He frequently asks aides and allies for their opinion on Vance's potential, treating the issue as unresolved rather than assuming Vance is the obvious successor. If you want to run J.D. Vance versus Hunter Biden, Hunter Biden in the latest TPSI official poll, Hunter Biden would lead J.D. Vance in a hypothetical matchup by about 4.3%. Hunter Biden would beat J.D. Vance there. I want to share this with you as well. You'll recall that when J.D. Vance was in Pakistan for the original negotiation that took place that didn't result in a deal with Iran, J.D. Vance was saying that the Iranians didn't understand the negotiating terms and that we never promised that Lebanon would be part of the ceasefire, which is fascinating because Iran always made it clear that Lebanon would be part of the ceasefire.
12:22And indeed, the agreement right now that was agreed to was Lebanon was part of the ceasefire. And so it basically seems that, you know, so this was from April 8th, 2026. Here we are, June 14th is when the deal was announced. Today's June 15th. but saying basically the terms that Iran put forward on April 8th heading into the Pakistan meeting is now ultimately what the U.S. agreed to. Here's what J.D. Vann said on April 8th. Play this clip. First of all, I actually think, and there's a lot of bad faith negotiation and a lot of bad faith propaganda going on. I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding.
13:07I think the Iranians thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise. We never indicated that was going to be the case. What we said is that the ceasefire would be focused on Iran, and the ceasefire would be focused on America's allies, both Israel and the Gulf Arab states. And then J.D. Vance's message to the American people. He had a call Fox yesterday. I mean, you know, he's under fire now from Netanyahu, the neocon war hawks, all of the, you know, the people in Israel hate him now, you know. And look, ultimately doing this deal while, you know, I think was the right was was the right call.
13:48I mean, I think we should never be clear. We should never have been in this unlawful and catastrophic war in the first place. This was the only option, you know, at this point. But it's interesting that now everybody has their knives out for Vance. And now Vance basically says, I know this has been hard for the American people, but I think we've achieved something great for them, is his kind of conclusion of this all. I think we've got something great for you. I know you've suffered a lot, but isn't this, in the end, what we all wanted? And I think what all Americans are saying is, we never wanted these wars.
14:25We don't want any of them. Stop the genocide in Gaza. Stop the genocide in Lebanon. Stop these catastrophic and unlawful wars. Just shut them down and focus on the suffering of the American people and help the American people who aren't able to live right now under these conditions in the United States. Here's what J.D. Vance said. You can listen to it for yourself. Let's play it. Bargain. But this is just a great thing for the American people. I know that they've suffered from high gas prices. The president has certainly been very concerned about that fact. But what we're going to be able to do is drive down the cost of energy, not just now, but for the long term and create a real engine of prosperity in the Middle East where Americans benefit from those lower energy prices, lower gas prices.
15:09And we don't have the same risk of chaos that we've had for the last generation. That's big, big wins for the American people. I know that this has been a hard time for a lot of Americans, but we've achieved something great for them. So there you have it. you have the neocons after Vance, the Mossad after Vance, and I think there's going to be a real big push, obviously, amongst the Warhawks, Netanyahu, others to derail this thing and to try to oust J.D. Vance. I think that's what we need to pay attention to. I mean, I think they're going to make a concerted effort to try to push J.D. Vance out.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump and others in his Cabinet and MAGA leaders making JD Vance their fall guy for the surrender to Iran.
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