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The MeidasTouch Podcast: Episode Summary
Episode Title
Trump Stabbed In Back as FBI Agents Get Revenge!!
Hosts
Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Episode Overview In this episode, Ben Meiselas discusses the recent revelations involving the FBI's actions against former President Donald Trump and his associates, particularly Kash Patel. The episode features an interview with David Sundberg, the former Chief of the FBI Washington Field Office, who is now running for Congress in Maryland.
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Key Topics Discussed
- FBI Whistleblowers and Investigations
- Exposing Trump: The FBI is reportedly working with whistleblowers to expose Trump's regime and its connections to the Epstein files and child sex trafficking.
- Recent Headlines: The timing of these revelations coincides with significant political events, such as the State of the Union.
- Leaked Information: Whistleblowers have provided insights into Kash Patel's alleged mismanagement of FBI resources, including delays in response to mass shootings attributed to his private flying habits.
- Kash Patel's Behavior
- Delays in FBI Response: Reports indicate that Patel's use of FBI jets for personal flights impacted the agency's ability to respond to urgent situations, such as a mass shooting.
- Public Perception: This behavior has prompted discussions about the professionalism and priorities of the FBI under current leadership.
- David Sundberg's Perspective
- Background: Sundberg served as the head of the FBI's Washington Field Office until being pushed out by the Trump administration. He has a background in law enforcement and military service.
- Public Trust in the FBI: Sundberg emphasizes the importance of maintaining public trust in law enforcement agencies for them to operate effectively.
- Concerns About FBI Leadership: He expresses embarrassment over recent actions by FBI leaders and the potential loss of institutional integrity.
- Challenges Facing the FBI
- Resource Allocation: Sundberg discusses how the FBI is being diverted from its primary national security missions due to mismanagement and political influence.
- Brain Drain: There is concern about the loss of experienced agents and staff, which could hinder the FBI's ability to address serious threats.
- Sundberg's Congressional Campaign
- Motivation for Running: Sundberg explains that his decision to run for Congress stems from a desire to combat the political weaponization of government agencies and restore their integrity.
- Vision for the Future: He aims to provide oversight and advocate for the rebuilding of agencies like the FBI to ensure they serve the American people responsibly.
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Key Takeaways
- Political Climate: The episode highlights the contentious political environment surrounding Trump's administration and the FBI's role in ongoing investigations.
- Ethics in Law Enforcement: The discussions revolve around the ethical responsibilities of public officials and the impact of their actions on institutional trust.
- Importance of Oversight: Sundberg's campaign underscores the necessity for oversight in government to prevent the abuse of power and ensure agencies function without political interference.
Conclusion The episode combines humor, insightful political commentary, and personal anecdotes from a former FBI leader. It reflects on the challenges facing law enforcement in a politically charged atmosphere and invites listeners to engage with the political process by understanding the significance of integrity in governance.
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Additional Resources
- Learn More About David Sundberg's Campaign: [davesundberg.com](http://davesundberg.com)
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFBI's Exposé on Trump
0:46 to 1:40
Discussion on recent FBI actions exposing Trump's regime and its implications.
“Epstein secret files in storage units across the USA.”
Kash Patel's Controversial Behavior
1:41 to 2:53
Analysis of Kash Patel's management of FBI resources and the consequences.
“One of the things that we are hearing about is agents with the FBI's elite evidence response team were delayed in reaching the scene of a mass shooting at Brown University.”
Dan Bongino's Fallout
2:54 to 4:21
Reflections on the fallout of former FBI deputy Dan Bongino’s actions.
“Durbin says a source revealed Kash Patel previously said at an FBI field office meeting, if you have golf, hockey, fishing, or hunting in beautiful sites, you're going to see a lot of me.”
Insights from a Former FBI Official
4:50 to 6:18
David Sundberg shares his experiences and insights from his time in the FBI.
“He's formerly Air Force, former law enforcement.”
Public Trust in the FBI
6:19 to 7:21
Sundberg discusses the importance of public trust in the FBI's operations.
“a huge amount of people that are at that office.”
Challenges Facing the FBI Today
7:22 to 9:29
Sundberg outlines the current challenges and priorities for the FBI.
“And frankly, the first is I'm embarrassed for the FBI.”
Running for Congress: David Sundberg
9:30 to 13:21
Sundberg shares motivations behind his congressional campaign in Maryland.
“to investigate the use of force by ICE agents that led to the deaths of Renee Good and Alex Pretty.”
Episode Discussion
14:00 to 21:12
“You know, when I think about FBI agents, you know, I think about real serious people who go in every day and every microsecond of the day is done with intentionality and purpose.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Ben Meiselas:The FBI has had enough. And right now, with the State of the Union having just concluded, they are making sure that Donald Trump is exposed. They are making sure that Kash Patel is exposed. And they are making sure that this entire despicable regime is exposed. I believe there's a lot of FBI whistleblowers right now who are also working with Democrats on the House Oversight Committee to expose the Trump regime's cover-up of the Epstein files, their cover-up of the child sex trafficking ring. That's why we're seeing a lot of headlines like this right now. Just look at the front page of Drudge. It is not coincidental that this is taking place right as the State of the Union was happening.
0:45Ben Meiselas:paper bombshell. Epstein secret files in storage units across the USA. Tick tock, Donald. The DOJ scrubs Trump from evidence. 53 missing pages from an accuser of Donald Trump who was alleging or is alleging that when she was a minor, she was sexually assaulted by Donald Trump. The Dems are launching a probe of all of this. And we're hearing from Democratic Congress members like Garcia that they are in contact with whistleblowers from the FBI who are giving them a lot of important information as well. Now, I want to highlight a few additional facts here. So we're also hearing from FBI leaks regarding Kash Patel's despicable behavior.
1:34Ben Meiselas:So they're leaking against Donald Trump and Bondi. They're leaking against Kash Patel. There was two back-to-back stories on this. So number one, Kash Patel flights. One of the things that we are hearing about is agents with the FBI's elite evidence response team were delayed in reaching the scene of a mass shooting at Brown University. Remember when that took place in December because there was no FBI plane available. Kash Patel was in South Florida living it up at the time with one of the FBI's two available jets. Here's what Senator Dick Durbin has said. Whistleblowers within the FBI have revealed in the also in the immediate aftermath of the murder of Charlie Kirk, the FBI's shooting reconstruction team was asked to fly to Utah to aid the investigation and process the scene.
2:30Ben Meiselas:However, the team's deployment was delayed by at least a day because guess what? The Bureau plane and pilot shortage caused by Kash Patel's private flights. Durbin also says that Kash Patel misplaced priorities and poor management of the FBI's resources, including its aircraft, harmed the FBI's ability to respond to that shooting at Brown University on December 13th, 2025. Durbin says a source revealed Kash Patel previously said at an FBI field office meeting, if you have golf, hockey, fishing, or hunting in beautiful sites, you're going to see a lot of me. And so Kash Patel was bragging about using our taxpayer money so that he can gallivant around the country on these private jets.
3:19Ben Meiselas:Here's how MSNOW is reporting it as well. That again, he was in South Florida when one of the FBI's two available jets were not able to be used because they were flying him around during that mass shooting at Brown University. And Kash Patel saying, I dispute this allegation. I dispute this allegation. By the way, what is Dan Bongino doing? Remember the number two at the FBI, the deputy FBI director? So what's he saying right now? He's doing podcasts now because he is out. And you know that he knows where a lot of these bodies are buried from the Epstein files. And he's been spending his time cursing out Candace Owens.
4:06Ben Meiselas:And so, I mean, you'll just see the panic on these people's faces. I mean, aren't you both like right wing podcasters and you'll hear him go F you. There's harsh language here, but I just want you to see what the former deputy FBI director is doing right now. Here, play this clip. Fuck you. Fuck you. Go fuck yourself. You demonic fucking scum.
4:35Ben Meiselas:so donald trump's own fbi leaking against him finally because they see all of the destruction that donald trump and his despicable regime are causing i want to bring in right now the former head of the fbi field office can we bring him in david sunberg so he led that washington field office since 2023. He was pushed out by the Trump regime. In 2002, he joined the FBI. He rose through the ranks. He's formerly Air Force, former law enforcement. He's actually running for Congress in Maryland as well. Here's an interview I did with him because I want to get the perspective of this guy was the top guy, the top FBI official in Washington, DC.
5:19Ben Meiselas:He ran the field office, 1 ,600 agents and other staff reported to him. Half of them were agents reported to this guy. So let's bring in Dave Sundberg. It's great to see you. Dave's also running for Maryland's fifth congressional district. You entered the FBI 2002. Before that, you were Air Force. Not a political guy at all. Never thought that you'd actually be really running for office. But as I've said to a lot of people that have dealt with this Trump regime, I wasn't a political guy really at all until I was a lawyer, until politics hit me and I was like, I got to do something about what's going on.
5:57Ben Meiselas:So we've got a lot to discuss, Dave, especially as thousands of FBI agents are either being forced out or quitting and they just can't handle these conditions there. So I just want to get your first reaction when people were just so people know, too, the field office in D.C. has about a thousand people there. half of them are agents. So when you're the leader of that field office, you're supervising a huge amount of people that are at that office. So talk to us, though, when you see that behavior, Kash Patel chugging the beer, the spokesperson saying he's not going to the Olympics, you know, to me, the F you to the American people, Trump calling and mocking the women's hockey team.
6:39Ben Meiselas:What was going through your mind?
6:41David Sundberg:Well, thank you very much. And I really appreciate the opportunity to be on. Let me start by congratulating both the men's and women's U.S. Olympic hockey teams for incredible gold medal wins. And frankly, my thanks, and I think all Americans' thanks to all of our athletes who, in a difficult circumstance, went to represent our nation at the Olympics, which is such a tremendous tradition for us. And they're at the peak of their athletic careers. And I compliment every single one of them. I think there are two things that I see when I see those videos and what's happening. And frankly, the first is I'm embarrassed for the FBI.
7:26David Sundberg:And the second, the second is really that it doesn't appear to be new. I'm not surprised to see something like this again.
7:42David Sundberg:the FBI I was in kind of lived under a golden rule of not embarrassing the agency. And I think that's important for a number of reasons, and especially important when you talk about the senior leaders of an organization such as the FBI or any of our government agencies that carry such heavy responsibilities. And that is that people watch what you do all the time. I learned that lesson as I came up through the FBI. As you mentioned, I started in the Air Force, and then I was a local police officer and detective before joining the FBI, where I spent more than two decades before taking over as the head of the Washington Field Office, where we worked some tremendously important cases.
8:27And I knew every day that all of the employees of the FBI, and frankly, the public, were
8:35David Sundberg:watching how I conducted myself and what I did. And fairly, they were also watching the things I didn't do, what I wasn't attending to, or what I didn't think was important. And that matters because the reason the FBI is able to accomplish this mission is because it has the trust of the American people. And we may be losing that trust. It is very important at the end of the day for an FBI agent to be successful, to be able to get victims or witnesses to talk to him or her with honesty in times that may be really risky for those people. And they've got to trust that this FBI agent they're going to talk to, who, you know, could be out canvassing a neighborhood, doing interviews to find the kidnapper of Nancy Guthrie, or could very importantly be working a case we should have in broad, you know, under open conditions, working with the state to investigate the use of force by ICE agents that led to the deaths of Renee Good and Alex Pretty.
9:44David Sundberg:To do those interviews, people need to trust the FBI agent they're talking to. And now every FBI agent who goes out into our country to do the job on behalf of the people starts that conversation with the American public having watched the FBI director, you know, as you described in a locker room spraying beer. That's not how we want to start those conversations.
10:12Ben Meiselas:You know, and with the exodus of, you know, maybe a thousand or more, you know, agents and even probably more staffers, you know, and the purge by the Trump regime of senior executives like yourselves and others who have built this institutional experience on very, you know, on the highest risks to our country. For our audience, can you describe just how dangerous is it right now? I mean, in terms of what's not being investigated with the brain drain that's occurred, how do you describe it? How do you see what's existing
10:54David Sundberg:right now at that agency? Yeah, it's tremendously challenging to accomplish the mission right now for a number of reasons. And some of those are where we are putting the agents and analysts and their efforts and what work they're doing. The FBI has traditionally not worked immigration matters outside of its own cases. And when we push FBI agents to do that work, or in the case of Washington, D.C., to have agents walking the streets as if they're, you know, part of the Metropolitan Police Department. Immediately, even outside of those roles, we're taking them away from the things that they should be working on because only the FBI can work on them in such a capacity.
11:44David Sundberg:Those are terrorism cases that are not getting as much attention. Those are cyber cases that could be national security cases or they can be criminal cyber cases in which, you know, Americans are being defrauded of tremendous amounts of money. They could be complex health care fraud investigations or espionage cases. And just putting the human capacity of the FBI on other projects that are not traditionally FBI priorities, and certainly we have other agencies that are supposed to attend to them. That by itself takes away from the attention we can give an already strapped FBI to conduct its national security mission and to work these really significant criminal cases on behalf of the American people.
12:37David Sundberg:Additionally, by putting them in that position, we continue to detract from the public trust in the agency. And as I said, the trust of the public is essential in accomplishing the mission of the FBI. Our government works at the consent of the people and law enforcement at any level. And I've worked at local levels and at federal levels. We are unable to provide good policing and good national security if we lose the trust of the communities we work in.
13:11Ben Meiselas:And look, we'll talk about your congressional race right now and why you stepped in, you know, to run for the fifth congressional district. It's a very crowded primary there. So I want to talk in a bit about what do you think separates you from some of the Democratic primaries? Everybody knows that's Steny Hoyer's seat that he's had before I was born. I think he had that seat in 1980 and he announced his resignation soon. It's Maryland's fifth. But, you know, to me, what I'm watching, when I'm seeing the FBI behavior, I, in many ways, I think the hard part for us all is what we're watching is so, is so clownish.
13:50Ben Meiselas:It's so juvenile. It's surreal. It doesn't feel like this could even be a real thing. It's like we're living a simulation and a parody because look, you're a serious, like you're a serious dude. You know, when I think about FBI agents, you know, I think about real serious people who go in every day and every microsecond of the day is done with intentionality and purpose. And even the smallest aberration from the mission could be viewed with discipline. And, you know, that's what I think about the FBI. And then I see, you know, this craziness out there. And I almost don't have the language to be like, what the F?
14:34Ben Meiselas:What the F is this? What the F is this all? And I think that's also why you decided to run, because it is like a what the F what the F is going on with our country. Like it's it's it's ridiculous and it's it's authoritarian, but it's also it's also weird and strange and demented. And I'm like, what, what? You know, I grew up with value. You know, your word is important. You keep your contracts. You do things. These people, it's just craziness that's out there.
15:05David Sundberg:Yes, agreed. And that's really challenging for people in government, not just in the FBI. I mean, there are so many federal employees who are doing their best to do the job they signed up to do. And they signed up for a reason. I mean, I used to tell the people working with me in the FBI that we all signed up for the same reason. It didn't matter if you were an FBI agent, you were an analyst, you were a linguist, you were an attorney, a professional staff. It didn't matter. We're all there to accomplish a mission. We needed to do that together. And that is a very, very tough place to work. and it is full of really great people who took federal civil service jobs in order to fulfill a service obligation to what they consider to be the most important thing that they can do.
16:03David Sundberg:And so why am I running? I'm running, frankly, because I've decided that being angry is not enough. We can be frustrated with the system. We can be disappointed in how politics are. I mean, I am frustrated as someone who was forced out of my position because I certainly would not have allowed the FBI to be utilized in the manner it's being right now. And I think we need people who have deep experience inside of the very agencies that are being weaponized against our own people. The Department of Justice has been weaponized as a way to go after political opponents, which is a terrible thing to happen to the agency that doesn't work for the president per se.
16:54David Sundberg:It works for the American people. The attorney general is not the president's attorney. and to watch parts of the Department of Homeland Security, I specifically, to be used as a tool of intimidation is not where we should be as a nation. And then in D.C. specifically, but we've seen it in other cities, it's just still going on in D.C. The presence of armed National Guardsmen appears to me to be an attempt to normalize the view of soldiers in our streets. And when you couple that with statements from the president that we should nationalize elections in certain states, I am very, very concerned of the direction we're headed.
17:40David Sundberg:I'm very concerned that Congress has not been able to be a proper check on presidential power, and that's probably been true for many years. And we need more people to step up to serve in ways that will be important for our country to move forward at all. I never intended a political career. I'm a career public servant who has taken an oath to defend the Constitution now three times. I've administered that oath to task force officers joining us in our missions, whether it was to fight violent crime or foreign intelligence officers or be on cyber task force. That oath is important to me. And just because I was forced out of government by President Trump doesn't mean that that oath has changed at all.
18:28David Sundberg:And I believe I can go to Congress and help to provide this sort of oversight and more importantly, the sort of rebuilding of those agencies that will be important and needs to be done from an understanding of how those agencies work, what was not great about them before, and where we need to go in the future so that we can protect them from easy weaponization against the American people.
18:55Ben Meiselas:Where can people learn more about you, about the campaign, and anything else you want to say to our more than 6 million subscribers before we go?
19:03David Sundberg:Thanks so much. They can learn more about me and the campaign at davesundberg.com. That's D-A-V-E-S-U-N-D-B-E-R-G dot com. My bio's there. I am a proud public servant who was pushed out because I was not going to allow the Washington Field Office or any other part of the FBI, but specifically my office, which had responsibility for the January 6th cases, had responsibility for the staffing of agents and analysts on the special counsel cases. I was not going to allow that to be politicized. And so now I am running to represent the Fifth District of Maryland in Congress, a district that has, if not the highest, one of the highest percentages of federal employees in it of any congressional district right outside of D.C.
20:00David Sundberg:It's very important that we all get in this fight together and that we stop these excesses and abuses of federal government. We need these agencies to be working for us with our consent.
20:12Ben Meiselas:Dave Sundberg running for Maryland's 5th Congressional District. Look forward to hearing more from you and learning more about the campaign as it progresses. Thanks, Dave. Thank you so much. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million subscribers.
20:51Ben Meiselas:We'll see you next time.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on FBI agents and whistleblowers exposing Trump and Kash Patel and Meiselas speaks with former FBI Washington Field Office Chief David Sundberg who is running for Congress in Maryland.
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