In short
The episode argues that Donald Trump’s planned attendance at Knicks/NBA Finals Game 3 at Madison Square Garden will “backfire” by disrupting fans and canceling popular watch parties. It claims Secret Service security requirements led to banning all watch parties outside MSG for Game 3, forcing fans to arrive hours early and shutting down free community viewing; it disputes Trump/Dolan blaming the NYPD, citing NYPD statements that the decision was made in coordination with Secret Service. Notable examples include fan quotes calling for Trump to be banned, Stephen A. Smith urging him not to come, and Juliette Kayyem saying presidents avoid such events due to security burdens. The episode also mentions a lawsuit challenging a UFC event at the White House as illegal and not publicly accessible.
Guests
none are formally listed; it features commentary clips from Stephen A. Smith and national security reporter Juliette Kayyem.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Unwanted NBA Visit
1:19 to 2:10
Discussion about Trump's impact on Knicks fans and the NBA Finals.
“Donald Trump is getting a final warning to stay the hell out of Madison Square Garden for game three of the NBA Finals.”
Community Backlash Against Trump
2:10 to 5:11
Fans express frustration over Trump's visit disrupting local events.
“fans in particular are livid after the Knicks had to announce that fans must arrive hours before the game in order to accommodate secret service processes that need to take place now.”
Historical Context of Presidential Visits
5:11 to 6:41
Exploring why past presidents avoided events like the NBA Finals.
“Now, if you open up New York City blogs or papers, they're out there saying he ruins everything.”
Fan Reactions to Trump's Attendance
6:41 to 11:06
Fans share their mixed feelings about Trump attending the game.
“And so former presidents didn't want to cause inconvenience.”
Security Concerns with Trump’s Visit
11:06 to 13:58
Discussing the security implications of Trump's upcoming attendance.
“I expect to see an environment I have never seen in my entire career covering sports.”
Emergency Lawsuit Against UFC Fight
14:06 to 14:34
Learn about an emergency lawsuit filed to block a UFC fight at the White House.
“and then maybe open up more watch parties outside of the secure zone.”
The Legal Arguments Against Trump
14:34 to 16:18
Explore the legal arguments surrounding the alleged illegality of the UFC event at public property.
“It was an emergency lawsuit that was brought by residents in the area, including a Vietnam veteran.”
Accessibility Issues with the Event
16:18 to 17:32
Discuss the accessibility concerns related to the UFC fight being broadcasted only on a subscription service.
“But this lawsuit, you know, and we'll probably hear from a federal judge, I expect this morning we'll probably hear because it's an emergency lawsuit, basically says this entire UFC fight, it's illegal.”
Trump's Impact on World Events
17:32 to 18:04
Examine how Trump's policies are affecting international sports events, including the World Cup.
“And I'll, you know, I'll wrap up with this as Donald Trump ruins everything.”
Visa Issues for Athletes and Support Staff
18:04 to 19:07
Learn about visa complications affecting teams and support staff at international sporting events.
“So like Senegal, for all purposes, Senegal is a total ban.”
Transcript
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1:50Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is getting a final warning to stay the hell out of Madison Square Garden for game three of the NBA Finals. Knicks fans, sports commentators, athletes are making it very clear you are not wanted at the Madison Square Garden. You are a distraction, and Knicks fans in particular are livid after the Knicks had to announce that fans must arrive hours before the game in order to accommodate secret service processes that need to take place now. And significantly for fans, they've now learned that the watch parties outside of Madison Square Garden, which tens of thousands of fans, if not more, have been attending for free to enjoy these Nick games together, that they are now being canceled.
2:45Ben Meiselas:All watch parties are banned because Secret Service needs to clear all of that space now for Donald Trump. Trump is quite literally destroying the experience of people attending the NBA finals. But even more significantly, because the ticket prices are so high, the New York City community, the people from the boroughs who are showing up there as part of this positivity in the community, they are now being blocked from attending these watch parties outside of MSG. And in typical Trumpian fashion, he's trying to blame NYPD for it. And so Trump and Dolan, who's the owner of Madison Square Garden and the Knicks, they're trying to act like, oh, it wasn't Donald Trump who had to shut down these watch parties.
3:38Ben Meiselas:It was the NYPD who did it. And the NYPD says, uh-uh, it's not us, it's Trump. Let's be very clear. A new statement from the NYPD, as Ryan Glass Spiegel points out, states, there will be no watch party outside of Madison Square Garden. This decision was made because of the Secret Service. It was made in coordination with the Secret Service. There will be watch parties at other locations. We are currently determining where they will be. We'll get back to you when we have more information to share, but the normal watch parties outside of Madison Square Garden are canceled. So then Madison Square Garden, Dolan, who's a buddy of Donald Trump, I think he got married like at Mar-a-Lago as well, they put out this statement.
4:22Ben Meiselas:The permit for the Plaza 33 Game 3 watch party was denied by the city's permitting office in consultation with NYPD. They're trying to shift the blame on Mamdani and NYPD. However, the White House will confirm that this is not about the president. We understand NYPD Commissioner Tisch is planning additional street closures around Madison Square Garden. So that triggered a statement from NYPD, which says, no, there will be no watch parties outside of Madison Square Garden for game three only. This was done fully in coordination with the Secret Service because President Trump is visiting. We expect watch parties at Madison Square Garden to resume for game four.
5:11Ben Meiselas:Now, if you open up New York City blogs or papers, they're out there saying he ruins everything. Donald Trump literally ruins everything. I think that this is very well said by Pablo Torre. James Dolan, billionaire owner of the Knicks, by the way, who's not beloved in New York is an understatement. James Dolan invited his friend Donald Trump to watch Game 3. In order to do that, they have to ban the organic, historically joyous parties happening outside Madison Square Garden for fans who can't afford to be inside. Modern sports in a nutshell, while Donald Trump is saying, eh, too bad if you can't afford$8 ,000 to$12 ,000 seats.
5:56Ben Meiselas:That's just the way life goes. That's what Donald Trump said. Now, historically, it should be noted that presidents, even if they're beloved, which Donald Trump is not, they avoid events like this. They avoid going to Super Bowls and Olympics or soccer matches or football matches or events because you realize you're ruining the fans' experience because of the security that has to be around you. So that's why in the past you didn't see a lot of former presidents attending events like this. Even if they would love to see it, they knew that it would be shifting the focus on them and away from the event and it would cause inconvenience.
6:42Ben Meiselas:And so former presidents didn't want to cause inconvenience. Not Donald Trump. Trump is very happy having the Knicks cancel watch parties and very happy having the Knicks team have to put out a statement saying fans need to arrive two hours early and now having a list of things that are banned from showing up. And now all of the Knicks who are getting ready for this game, they have to ask questions about Donald Trump attending the game. And they're just trying to stay focused on the game. And so they're like trying to dodge these questions. But it's all like, what do you think about Donald Trump?
7:17Ben Meiselas:What do you think about Donald Trump showing up? Let me just show you what some of the fans are saying right here. Here's a fan reaction. How do you feel about Dolan inviting Trump to watch a game here during the finals? You know, the Knicks game ain't no place for a president, no matter what side. We need ball. That's it. Where Trump W? If he's with the Knicks, I'm with him. Trump. Ice. All that bullshit. I'm not gonna ask Trump, by the way. I love Trump. Trump is the best. He does everything right for the country. He should invite anyone he wants. Let's keep the politics out of this, man. What are we doing?
7:48The security lines are gonna take three hours, bro. No one's gonna watch the game. What the fuck? I mean, he's from New York, and it won't be the first Knicks game he been to. When did he come home? Did he gonna come to the games? This is just how it goes, you know what I mean? Anybody could come. Even if you're on a bandwagon, you're more than welcome. Just bring the good vibes, man. As long as there's no negativity, then it's none of my business. Bring him. I'm gonna win in front of everybody. You can believe in whoever you want to believe in. I believe in Knicks and Ford. That's all I care.
8:13That's all I know. He just want to be a part of history. That's really what it is. Do you think Knicks fans are gonna boo him? 100%. They gonna boo him, bro. I swear to God, this New York. Everybody fed up with Trump, bro. race because he's done nothing but fix the economy and he brought back the troops. The war is over. Thank goodness gracious. I think these fans are going to be very reactive. I might say which way, but I know they'll be reactive.
8:37Ben Meiselas:More Nick fan reactions right here. I'll show you over here. Hey, let him come. We're going to boo the out of you, bro. Like, let him come. And by the way, I mean, I can go through a bunch of these comments as well. Nick fans are furious that Trump's attendance is causing major disruptions ahead of game three, that they have to show up hours and hours early, that the pregame festivities are being closed. People are livid. Bro, can we ban this guy from the garden? Regardless of who it is, this is ridiculous. Everyone else's life has to be changed because Azalea Banks is like, get this guy the hell away.
9:15Ben Meiselas:He ruins everything. We don't want him here. Bro, oh, we don't want him here. Why does he show up? Nobody wants this guy. Secret Service has been making repeated messages about him. Let me show you what sports commentator Stephen A. Smith had to say. Play this clip. He's coming to game three of the finals and I don't want him there. He's coming to game four of the NBA finals and I don't want him there. And it has nothing to do with politics, policy or anything like that. It has everything to do with him disrupting and contributing at the same time to the chaos that's going to be existing at Madison Square Garden.
9:58If there was ever a time, if it were Barack Obama coming to the garden, I would say stay home. Stay at the White House. If it was George W. or Clinton or somebody, stare at the white house. Don't come. You don't understand what Monday is going to be like in New York City. The subways will never be more packed. Don't drive your cars in Midtown. I'm trying to tell you, it'll be a parking lot. There is nothing short of madness that is coming the way. Of everybody come Monday. You don't understand. You don't understand. I have been covering sports for over 30 years. And I'm telling you right now, come Monday for game three of the NBA finals at Madison Square Garden.
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12:41Ben Meiselas:And here's national security reporter Juliette Kayyem. Here's what she had to say about this as well. Let's play this clip. To avoid, we've got some politics with the Iranian team. The United States should let the entire team in. And, you know, this is now getting silly and petty in New York. You're going to have American citizens who have a right to protest, right to heckle. That's all going to happen. No one should be surprised about it. That's America. But what you do have on the security overlay, and I think the Secret Service. And unfortunately, this just has to happen, given given that Trump is coming, is they're going to basically control the outer perimeter.
13:21That means New Yorkers are going to be not going to have the experience that they that they will want, including the watch parties. You'll have watch parties elsewhere. That's the price of having a president visit one of these. I hope it's the only one because I do think regardless of who the president is, this would happen in any situation. It's just an increased burden. And unless absolutely necessary, like an Olympics, generally presidents do sitting presidents avoid things like that. because of the burden on safety and security. You really don't see sitting presidents come to events like this for that reason.
13:57So you'll see the mayor adapt. I think he did the right thing, however, reluctantly, in terms of closing those watch parties nearby and then maybe open up more watch parties outside of the secure zone. All right. Juliette Kayyem, always great to have you. Thank you so much. Going to be a summer. Yes, it is indeed. It's already started.
14:18Ben Meiselas:Now, I also want to touch on this too, which is there was an emergency lawsuit filed to block the UFC fight taking place at the White House in about a week. It was an emergency lawsuit that was brought by residents in the area, including a Vietnam veteran. And they're calling out, obviously, the UFC and Trump for basically colluding and providing this for-profit company venture where Crypto.com is sponsoring it, where$1.5 million seats are being sold, where this is becoming a promotional tool for the UFC. Donald Trump invests in TKO, the parent company of UFC. We saw that in Donald Trump's recent filings, how the claw structure that's now in the White House that Trump's saying he wants that to be a permanent structure.
15:22Ben Meiselas:And when you do things like that to a space that belongs to the public, You can't, you know, you have to go through an approval process and a board process. Now, Trump claims, oh, when Congress approved America 250 events, this is just one of those events. But the lawsuit points out, no, it's not. It's not an America 250 event. It's not even a freedom. America 250 is the bipartisan or the nonpartisan group that was set up to throw 250-year American celebration events. Donald Trump basically ignored America 250 and created Freedom 250, which is this MAGA propaganda thing. But even the UFC fights, not necessarily even Freedom 250.
16:12Ben Meiselas:And the question is, under what authority do you have to do this event? I've previously reported how they are expecting thunderstorms on the day of the event, which could be the ultimate karma. But this lawsuit, you know, and we'll probably hear from a federal judge, I expect this morning we'll probably hear because it's an emergency lawsuit, basically says this entire UFC fight, it's illegal. illegal. I mean, just think about if the White House put up a billboard on top of the White House and sold billboards to Amazon or to whoever, right? And one of the things that is pointed out in this lawsuit is that the fight is not even accessible to all Americans because Paramount, which is the broadcaster, they're putting it on their Paramount Plus platform and they charge a monthly subscription fee.
17:11Ben Meiselas:So you have to subscribe to Paramount to then watch an event that's at the White House. At the very least, the lawsuit says it should at least be an event that's open to the public if it's on public property. And now you're going to funnel money to Paramount through subscription fees of Paramount Plus. And they say that's an illegal scheme and artifice. And I'll, you know, I'll wrap up with this as Donald Trump ruins everything. I mean, he's ruining the World Cup right now as well. I talked about this the other day, but we're getting more data. And one of the things he's doing is that he's banning fans from so many countries from attending.
17:49Ben Meiselas:Now, there are a few countries that have absolute bans where you're not allowed to show up, like Cote d 'Ivoire and Iran and Senegal and a few other countries that have absolute bans. You can show up. But then there's a number of countries that basically have a visa rejection rate of over 40%. So like Senegal, for all purposes, Senegal is a total ban. But Ghana, Congo, Iran, Jordan, Cape Verde, Uzbekistan, Algeria, Haiti, Egypt, Ecuador, basically impossible to get a visa in order for you to watch your team here. And then the United States did not give visas to Iran's managers and team executives.
18:35Ben Meiselas:And so the team got visas, but they have to be in Mexico. Then they get to show up for the game. They have to go back to Mexico right after their games. And they have three games in the United States. But the U.S. did not approve visas for the support staff of Iran, which is very unprecedented in today, in modern sports, even when there's like wars for you to ban people who are part of the athletic and sports team. So we'll keep you posted every step of the way. Donald Trump ruining all of these events. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million subscribers and thanks for watching.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump getting a final warning from New York City residents and NBA fans not to show up at the finals as he is already destroying the game before it even starts.
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