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The MeidasTouch Podcast - Episode Summary
Episode Title
Trump Suffers Utter Humiliation during War with Fatal Polling
Podcast Overview The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosted by brothers Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas, combines humor and political commentary, focusing on supporting democracy through engaging discussions and news coverage. This particular episode highlights Donald Trump's declining popularity and polling amid ongoing conflicts and his impact on various voter demographics.
Key Points Discussed
- Polling Trends
- Decline in Support for Trump
- Trump faces significant disapproval ratings in light of the Iran conflict, with only 24% of Gen Z approving of his actions.
- A recent Morning Consult poll shows Democrats leading in overall generic ballots among Hispanic voters (60% Democratic to 29% Republican).
- Male voters now show a shift, favoring Democrats (48% Democratic to 42% Republican).
- Generic Ballots
- Overall, polls indicate a Democratic lead (47% to 42%), suggesting a potential "blue tsunami" that could end Trump’s presidency.
- Betrayal of MAGA Supporters
- Personal Stories of Disillusionment
- A clip of Wayne DiMario, a Trump voter, pleading for help after ICE detained his fiancée highlights the betrayal felt by Trump's supporters.
- Rachel Reyes, another Trump voter, discusses her son's death at the hands of ICE, expressing her devastation and feeling betrayed by Trump’s policies.
- Trump's War in Iran
- Polling indicates that only 36% of Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the Iran conflict, a stark contrast to previous wars that had much higher initial approval ratings.
- Discussion of rising gas prices and inflation as a direct result of this conflict.
- Republican Party Dynamics
- MAGA Mike Johnson's Statements
- Johnson downplays the situation, claiming the military action is not a war, but merely a limited operation.
- Interview with Derek Johnson (NAACP President)
- Discussion on the impact of Trump’s regime on African American communities and working-class individuals.
- Johnson highlights the effectiveness of coded language in policies that distract from core issues, such as voting and tax supremacy.
- The conversation touches on the SAVE Act and its misleading framing, which Johnson argues serves to suppress votes rather than enhance security.
- Corporate Accountability
- The episode critiques corporations that previously pledged support for diversity and inclusion post-George Floyd protests but have since retracted their commitments under Trump’s administration.
- Johnson emphasizes the long-term consequences for companies that abandon these principles, noting that consumer behavior will reflect their commitments to equity.
Key Takeaways
- Voter Sentiment: Trump’s support is waning across multiple demographics, indicating a potential shift in political power.
- Personal Impact of Policies: Real-life stories from former supporters illustrate the tangible consequences of Trump's policies, leading to feelings of betrayal.
- Challenge of Coded Language: The use of vague and misleading terms in political discourse can manipulate public opinion and obscure true intentions behind policy proposals.
- Corporate Reaction: The episode stresses the importance of corporate accountability in promoting social justice, suggesting that the current political climate may lead to major shifts in consumer preference.
Conclusion The episode emphasizes the turmoil surrounding Trump's presidency, the shifting political landscape, and the crucial conversations surrounding racial and economic justice in America. The Meiselas brothers blend humor with critical political analysis, urging listeners to remain informed and engaged in democratic processes.
For further engagement, listeners are encouraged to support the NAACP and stay tuned for more episodes from the MeidasTouch Podcast.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Declining Approval Ratings
0:23 to 1:30
Discussion on Trump's waning support among various voter demographics.
“What about Donald Trump's approval in his unlawful war against Iran?”
Trump's Betrayal of Supporters
1:30 to 2:32
Highlighting individual stories of Trump's supporters facing repercussions.
“If that holds, it's going to be a massive blue tsunami that will effectively end Donald Trump's presidency right there.”
Tragic Stories from Trump Voters
2:32 to 4:00
Exploring the impact of ICE on families of Trump voters through personal accounts.
“Cuban's not going to get deported, so don't worry about it.”
Public Opinion on Trump's War in Iran
4:00 to 5:32
Analyzing American approval ratings regarding Trump's military actions.
“and it's bad enough to lose your child, but then to lose your child at the hands of law enforcement when they're supposed to be the ones to protect your child.”
MAGA Mike Johnson's Commentary
5:32 to 7:12
Discussion of MAGA Mike Johnson's statements about the ongoing military operations.
“price has risen to$4.56 a gallon, the highest level since February 8th, 2023.”
Interview with NAACP President Derek Johnson
7:12 to 10:10
Insights from Derek Johnson on Trump's impact on the black community.
“We talk about how Donald Trump has attacked the black community, how Donald Trump has attacked working class people, how Donald Trump has attacked hardworking Americans, how Donald Trump protects the Epstein class.”
Class Warfare and Political Manipulation
10:10 to 14:03
Discussion on how race is used as a distraction in class warfare.
“You know, one of the, I think, things that was a revelation, although we all expected it when seeing the Epstein files, is this Epstein class.”
Understanding the SAVE Act's Framing
14:03 to 15:10
Learn how the SAVE Act is framed to influence voter perception.
“They would have never been able to do that without his brand of leadership.”
The Reality Behind Voter Suppression
15:10 to 16:39
Discover the implications of the SAVE Act on voting rights.
“But I guess to your earlier point, too, those framings are often used as tools, I think, to distort and deceive.”
Corporate Betrayal in Social Justice
16:39 to 18:05
Examine how corporations shifted their support for racial justice.
“It is vote suppression, pure and simple, that what we are witnessing now are policymakers realizing that their public policy objectives and bills passed is so unpopular that they cannot win in a fair election.”
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The Consequences of Corporate Politics
18:05 to 19:54
Understand the impact of corporate responses to political shifts.
“And like the experience that I had representing Colin Kaepernick was, I remember post George Floyd, all of these companies and law firms, you know, were like, what can we do to help?”
Long-Term Impacts of Diversity in Business
19:54 to 21:07
Learn why diversity is crucial for business sustainability.
“And over time, some of these companies will not survive.”
Engaging with the NAACP Today
21:07 to 22:16
Find out how to support the NAACP and its mission.
“And so for us, when those companies come back, it's a real conversation.”
Transcript
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0:23Ben Meiselas:the news keeps getting worse for donald trump he is absolutely destroying the republican party and they deserve it this is the karma that they've earned for having donald trump be their cult leader the latest generic ballot of hispanic voters from morning consult has democrats up 60 percent to Republicans, 29 percent. What about Donald Trump's approval in his unlawful war against Iran? In the latest NPR Marisball, only 24 percent of Gen Z approve of Donald Trump's unlawful war. Donald Trump had previously made some gains within Gen Z in the 2024 election. What about male voters, right? The one group that unfortunately was still, I say this as a man, sticking with Donald Trump.
1:12Ben Meiselas:The latest generic ballot shows that male voters support Democrats over Republicans, 48 % to 42 % based on the latest Emerson polling data. What about just a generic ballot? According to Morning Consult, Democrats lead 47 % to 42%. If that holds, it's going to be a massive blue tsunami that will effectively end Donald Trump's presidency right there. But I want to talk about some individual stories right here as Donald Trump has betrayed his MAGA base, betrayed some of his most loyal cult members. For example, after ICE detained his fiancee, Wayne DiMario, a Trump voter from Miami. Here he is right now.
1:56Ben Meiselas:You're going to watch him beg, beg for help. Why'd you do this? You betrayed me. Why'd you do this? Here, play this clip. Please, she does not deserve this. she's the sweetest person and she prayed for you. A desperate plea to President Trump from a South Florida man fearing his life partner could be deported to Cuba at any moment. He reached out to our Christian Dolorosa to share his story and his remorse. And more about what happened with his wife. I want you to see this because this is what Donald Trump will do to any of his cult members at any point in time. Play this clip. Cuban's not going to get deported, so don't worry about it.
2:35Today, DHS has her listed among the worst of the worst, a criminal arrested for dangerous drugs in possession. Wayne feels it's a slap in the face. I didn't vote for this, but I definitely voted Republican. He says both were staunch supporters of President Trump. When you said I didn't vote for this, what what did you think you had voted for? I really thought this was just going to be something organized, but it's obviously not. They just blanket everybody. In the region on West. Alcantou calling from her detention facility in Louisiana. She says in her eight months detained, she has not seen an immigration judge.
3:15Ben Meiselas:By the way, it's not just that group. I could show you thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of stories just like this, but I'll just show you another one. Take a look at this Trump voter whose son, Ruben Ray Martinez, was killed by ICE. She was a Trump voter, And she says that what went down was something that needs to end its abuse and impunity that's being exercised by these Trump and Border Patrol Gestapo. Here, play this clip. Everything was good. Just don't understand why it had to be this way. Rachel Reyes' son, 23-year-old American citizen Ruben Ray Martinez, was killed by an ICE agent nearly one year ago.
3:59I was devastated and in disbelief. and it's bad enough to lose your child, but then to lose your child at the hands of law enforcement when they're supposed to be the ones to protect your child. ICE's involvement in Martinez's killing in March of 2025 was only publicly revealed in February, roughly 11 months later. Martinez was out celebrating his birthday with his best friend Joshua Orta in South Padre Island. ICE says one of its agents fired defensive shots into Martinez's vehicle after Martinez intentionally ran over another ICE agent. Is that something you think your son would have done? Absolutely not.
4:39No, of course not. He was not a violent person. He was not aggressive. DHS's account was disputed by Orta, who said in a draft declaration that his friend did not hit anyone. Orta died in a car crash in February before he could testify.
4:55Ben Meiselas:What about at a generic level of all voters? Do you approve or disapprove of Trump handling the war in Iran? Only 36 % of Americans approve of Donald Trump's unlawful war in Iran, according to the latest NPR Marist poll. Just by reference as well, the war in Iraq began with 71 % approval and at its lowest had 41 % approval. The Trump war against Iran in a little over a week has approval of only 36%. And by the way, you're feeling it at the pump. You're feeling it with inflation. You're feeling it everywhere right now. The U.S. average diesel price has risen to$4.56 a gallon, the highest level since February 8th, 2023.
5:39Ben Meiselas:These increases will likely start to slow for now. We'll see about that. Here's what MAGA Mike Johnson had to say on Friday. With all of this going on, with this war raging, the Republicans want you to know that It actually pieces war and we're not at war. Everything is great. Just a special operation. Here's what Maggie Mike had to say. Here play this clip. We are not at war. We have no intention of being at war. The president and the Department of Defense have made this very clear. The Department of War has made it very clear. This is a limited operation. It's an operation that's limited in its scope and duration.
6:15It has a very clear mission and that mission is nearly accomplished by all estimates. We are taking down Iran's ballistic missile capability, its stockpile and its ability to produce more. They were doing that at a scale and a speed that was more than our regional allies could keep up with. And it was a serious and imminent threat to the United States. We don't need to relitigate all that today. But also we wanted to take down the capability of their navy and all of that has been very successful. So this needs to continue. It would have been a very dangerous gambit to take the commander in chief's ability in a way to complete this mission.
6:53It would have been a very serious misstep by Congress. And I'm grateful that that that resolution failed.
7:00Ben Meiselas:I want to bring in right now an individual by the name of Derek Johnson. He's the president of the NAACP. I did an interview with him earlier this past week, which I haven't showed yet. I want you to see it. We talk about how Donald Trump has attacked the black community, how Donald Trump has attacked working class people, how Donald Trump has attacked hardworking Americans, how Donald Trump protects the Epstein class. Let's bring in this incredible interview. Now I want to bring in the president of the NAACP, Derek Johnson. And Derek, you've been the president of the NAACP for about eight years or so, since 27.
7:38So you've seen the first Trump administration, you saw Biden administration. And I refer to what we're seeing right now as the regime. I want you to kind of just even contextualize it based on your experience. How bad is this regime from what you're seeing, you know, and its assault on black communities as well, but just in general, from your leadership position, what you're observing? Well, what we are witnessing for this second term is an administration that's much smarter than the first term. They have people who are much more capable. They spend the last four years prior to coming to office, studying a government in a way in which they knew many of the pressure points to hit.
8:25And it's having a very negative impact on American citizens. Race is a tool, a distraction. The tax policy bill that was passed last year was the crown jewel. And that crown jewel was a fight that started back in 1932. And you look forward and they were not able to radically change tax policy until last year because they were so much smarter in how they govern. You know, their coded language, which is not all that coded of, you know, stop the woke, stop the DEI. If universities promote DEI and woke knowledge, then we're going to, you know, defund it. The museums are to work with, to woke, which is all coded language for, you know, anything that tells the true story of black history or the history of other groups and marginalized groups, you know, get rid of it and quite literally whitewash it.
9:23And so how do you address it? How do you think about it? How do you deal with it at the NAACP? Well, I'll start with the fact that this is class warfare and race is only a two for the most wealthiest individuals on the globe to divert our tax dollars to their for their profit. But when you start otherizing communities such as African American community, the females or LGBTQIA, you distract people from what the fight is really about. Who gets taxed, who's not taxed, what those tax dollars are spent on, and regulatory oversight. And so that's the real fight here. And so as an organization, we have to stay focused on that as we also are very attuned to race being used as a tool to distract and distort, I might say, a very effective tool.
10:12You know, one of the, I think, things that was a revelation, although we all expected it when seeing the Epstein files, is this Epstein class. And sex trafficking was used as a tool by the Epstein class and the horrors that were inflicted on these underage girls and these children. And while they were blackmailing each other and using sex trafficking as the currency, though, they seem to be plotting how to destroy and create chaos, frankly, throughout the world, stability and markets, because they viewed within the chaos, their right wing oligarchs and their form of authoritarianism, that they could profit off of it.
10:55So like seeing that coordination behind the scenes was something that came into full clarity, although we think we knew it was there. Talk to us about that. But I think Epstein files and what we are learning and still learning is was a well-coordinated act of treason. If you think about how they are you, they use blackmail to get policymakers to act outside of the best interest of of this nation and our Constitution, that's treason. You know, January 6 was the act of treason. The Civil War was an act of treason. But the sustained effort of individuals being leveraged to undermine our democracy, undermine the stability of our economy and do all the things that we're doing is something that unfortunately we won't get a chance to hold people accountable under this administration on top of exploiting underage girls.
11:55It is unfortunate that we're here. It's unfortunate that these files were not released under the Biden administration or, for that matter, prior to that. And so we're going to have to dig out of this deep hole. And people around the globe, they're watching this nation, which held a standard for every other country that we were not living up to. Talk to us about your perspective when you see Donald Trump at these events and you know the damage. To your point, it's class warfare. So, you know, as you say, the discrimination against black communities or Latino communities are part of a broader attack on by right wing oligarchs against by other rising people.
12:42But one of the things that we'll see Donald Trump always do when I cover all of his rallies, too much of him, quite frankly, you know, he'll say, you know, look, there is a black lady over in Atlanta who wears a MAGA hat. And she says and I see them saying, you're the greatest president, Donald, you're the greatest president, Donald. And they almost use that image to be like, you see, I have support amongst the black community because there was a black lady wearing a MAGA hat. And I look at it and I'm like, how does this even like, how is this even being said? Like, what the heck is even going on here?
13:18You know, Donald Trump presented to the oligarch class of something they could have never done themselves. He has an appeal to the lowest common denomination of individuals who are the least educated or buy into the fear mongering that has been able to take place. But if any of them actually sit and listen to his speeches is rambling. It makes no sense. But he says the right phrases, uses the right buzzwords at the right moment to appeal to the least educated or individuals who are educated, but are under some illusion that he would not come after them and come out to everyone else or just fear mongering.
14:03They would have never been able to do that without his brand of leadership. It is worse than Ronald Reagan, who was at best a very effective actor playing the role of a governor and later a president. But all the books I've read about Reagan, he wasn't a policy wonk. He didn't understand the details. But you put a script in front of him. He was an effective actor. Talk to us about. One thing I want to talk about, the Save Act. But the way the Trump regime tries to frame it is, look, if you present to voters the issue of voter security and we want to keep it safe and you ask anybody, do you want voting to be safe and do you want voting security?
14:49And you frame the question like that, but don't actually explain what the SAVE Act is. I think lots of people go, sure, I want voting to be safe. The same way if you ask people, do you want safe borders? And do you want to make sure that there are, if there are criminals here who are migrants, that they get deported and prosecuted? Who says, no, I don't want that? I mean, of course, someone says we should have borders and we should have safe and secure elections. But I guess to your earlier point, too, those framings are often used as tools, I think, to distort and deceive. Because then what the Trump regime will say is, look, The black community supports the SAVE Act.
15:25Look, we have a poll that shows 75 % of black people support the SAVE Act. And then CNN parrots it. 80 % of Latinos support the SAVE Act. And then they go, you see, this is universally supported, but that's subterfuge. I mean, that's the propaganda. Talk to us about first why that's so, and then how do you combat it at the NAACP? So first of all, the SAVE Act, when you look at the details of the bill, is a solution in search of a problem. There isn't a problem that this piece of policy will save, fix, or secure. And the top line, as you said earlier, everyone will say we want safe elections. Everyone will say we need to have secure elections.
16:06We all agree with that. The real question is the details behind the bill. If you say you got to have mass re-registration, everyone start over, it disadvantaged not only the African-American community, it disadvantaged so many others. If you say that we should have a photo ID or you need proof of citizenship, well, why do you need proof of citizenship? There is no systemic or for that matter is the minimum is at best of individuals who are not citizens seeking to vote or individuals seeking to vote under an alleged name. It is vote suppression, pure and simple, that what we are witnessing now are policymakers realizing that their public policy objectives and bills passed is so unpopular that they cannot win in a fair election.
16:57That's a full stop. And so for the NACP, we educate people as much as we can. this is not about the buzzword buzzwords or the title of the policy. This is about taking away a right to vote. And for these very same individuals, when you say you got to have a photo ID to vote, well, they will push back hard against having a national ID requirement to buy firearms. So this is not about saving or securing, because if you want to save and secure, what about all of the children who've been killed in mass shootings across the country. And the fix there is this universal ID or need a passport to purchase guns.
17:38This is about maintaining domination and control at the ballot box. You know, finally, one of the tragic things that, you know, I've observed over the last 12, 14 months, and it really kind of happened right away, was how corporations, law firms, institutions, they really betrayed the American people, but I think also really betrayed black communities in general. And like the experience that I had representing Colin Kaepernick was, I remember post George Floyd, all of these companies and law firms, you know, were like, what can we do to help? How can we be here? We're on your side. You know, and I just remember being on these Zoom meetings with, you know, the top, top people and Colin was there and we were talking about ways to, you know, stop systemic racism within these organizations.
18:31And what can we do? We want to donate money. You know, the whole thing, like, look me in the face, you know, and then, you know, you know, Trump comes in and then all of a sudden seeing those exact same people basically say, you know, we didn't mean any of that. We, you know, we're actually against all of that. You know, we retract any of it. And, you know, I want to get your perspective on that, too, like your reaction to how corporations have responded, because, look, the pendulum swings, right? And these same people now who were rushing to help the NAACP or Know Your Rights Camp on Kaepernick, who now went full Trump, rooting for authoritarianism, they may come back.
19:15We see how unpopular Trump is. They may come back and say, oh, that was a big mistake. You know, we didn't mean that. So what do you tell them as the leader of the NAACP when those groups that clearly abandoned the NAACP and threw you under the bus in a year or two? You probably see it already. Come back and go, oh, we messed up. We want to be we want to be around. What do you do? Well, it's unfortunate, particularly for those companies that are consumer facing. The tale of two realities is Target versus Costco's. A target is struggling. They're going to have continued quarterly loss while Costco's continue to grow.
19:53Brand awareness is deep in our community. And over time, some of these companies will not survive. We only represent 13 % of the total population, while at the exact same time, we make up a significant number in terms of profit margins for some of these companies. And so there was no reason for Target to be wishy-washy on the issue of ensuring that diversity, equity, and inclusion is part of it. And you see the opposite with Costco's who profits have gone through the roof as a result of their position. The same thing with the law firms that capitulated to this administration signing those bogus MOUs just for the short term game of mergers and acquisition business.
20:39And the ones who just won in court last week and now have still have their M &A business, but yet a stronger standing within the community. This moment won't last forever. We have become a much more diverse country. We have a set of companies that realize that, wait a minute, this is about the long term, not the short term. Diversity is their business model because their market growth are in all of our communities. And so for us, when those companies come back, it's a real conversation. And for some of them, I don't think there isn't any coming back. Derek Johnson, we appreciate you. Before we go, what else?
21:19We got over six million subscribers. If people want to help out the NAACP, if they want to get involved, you know, what do people do who are watching this? We would love for you to come join us, be sustainers, NAACP.org. It's our website. We are on television with a commercial. We are needed more now than ever before. Part of what we do is to make democracy work for everyone. And our founding, it wasn't just about the African American community. It was many people sat around that table of founders. And during that time, no one was white because if he was Irish Catholic, he was not considered white or Jewish was not considered white or any number of communities that was outside of the WASP community.
22:01And over time, the class of whiteness opened up. And individuals who sat around the table realized that if we didn't have true representative democracy for everyone, this country would never become the country that was guaranteed under the Constitution. Derek Johnson, president of the NAACP. So great to see you. Thank you for the opportunity.
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