🚨Trump Throws Vance Under Bus and Wants Him Gone?!!

31 May 2026 · 16 min · 1 chapter

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In short

The episode argues Donald Trump is “throwing J.D. Vance under the bus,” resents him personally, and wants him removed, citing alleged New York Times/Atlantic leaks and Trump’s repeated criticisms of Vance’s behavior and loyalty.

Guest backgrounds

No guests are interviewed. Richard Hanania is referenced as providing an interpretation of Vance’s loyalty to Trump over the Pope.

Key claims

A New York Times April 9, 2026 “inside story” claims Trump’s decision to go to war with Iran weighed instincts against Vance’s concerns; the episode alleges Vance leaked details to undermine Trump and position himself for 2028. Trump allegedly reprimanded Vance (via Susie Wiles) for excessive social media, blamed Vance for Iran war outcomes, and views Vance as the “biggest leaker.” Steve Bannon is cited as echoing Pentagon/war-picture doubts.

Notable examples

Trump mocking Vance’s shoes; Vance “scrolling” social media; Vance criticized for vacations; Trump blaming Vance if no Iran deal (leaked White House video, April 1, 2026); Vance’s remarks on Iran’s economic impact (May 13, 2026); Vance saying he’d be ready if “tragedy strikes” (Hannity clip); Vance’s Magic: The Gathering comments and Disney line-cutting; and the claim Vance fumbled an Ohio State trophy at a White House event.

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Trump's Disdain for J.D. Vance

0:26 to 12:41

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0:26Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is throwing Vice President J.D. Vance under the bus. There are rumblings that Donald Trump despises J.D. Vance, and he wants J.D. Vance out. A New York Times article that just came out highlights just how much Donald Trump hates J.D. Vance, and this was being leaked by all of these Trump insiders to make it clear that Trump is disgusted with J.D. Vance. So, This New York Times article says that Donald Trump thinks that J.D. Vance is basically lame, that J.D. Vance is a loser. Donald Trump constantly criticizes J.D. Vance's shoes. He is always making fun of and mocking J.D. Vance. He does like that J.D.

1:10Ben Meiselas:Vance is loyal and chooses Donald Trump over the Pope, as Richard Hanania explains. But the article says that he also told J.D. Vance, you need to be much more subservient. subservient. You need to treat me like Xi Jinping. J.D. Vance also scrolls through social media too much, according to this New York Times article. And Donald Trump had his chief of staff, Susie Wiles, reprimand J.D. Vance that he needs to not be on social media as much and needs to stop making social media posts. Also, Donald Trump continues to blame J.D. Vance for the continuation of this catastrophic war in Iran. He brought up Vance's initial opposition to military action in Iran and then questioned the success of J.D.

2:01Ben Meiselas:Vance's diplomatic mission to Pakistan. He's criticized the number of vacations that J.D. Vance takes. And he jokes that J.D. Vance always interrupts Donald Trump's conversations and that J.D. Vance, again, just needs to shut up. Donald Trump also constantly mocks J.D. Vance for the time that J.D. Vance fumbled Ohio State's National Championship trophy during a White House event. Also, the White House believes that J.D. Vance is the biggest leaker that they have who's constantly trying to undermine Donald Trump and others in the regime. So there was a New York Times article that came out on April 9th, 2026.

2:46Ben Meiselas:And here was the article. It's how Trump took the U.S. to war with Iran. In a series of Situation Room meetings, Trump weighed his instincts against deep concerns of his vice president and a pessimistic intelligence assessment. Here's the inside story of how he made the fateful decision. So all of Trump's people believe that J.D. Vance was trying to undermine Trump, position Vance for 2028, or if Donald Trump leaves office before 2028, to be there and to act like J.D. Vance was right the entire time. So do you remember this New York Times article? It talked about how J.D. Vance was the person who tried to stop the war, but Trump wouldn't listen and Hegseth wouldn't listen and nobody listened to J.D.

3:35Ben Meiselas:Vance. The New York Times reported that J.D. Vance was the strongest opponent of the war with Iran within Trump's circle. And he called the operation a gamble that was going to have dire consequences. And Vance argued that if you went in there, Iran would close down the Strait of Hormuz and there would not be any ability to do a regime change and that Netanyahu was dragging the United States into this catastrophic event and that war needed to be avoided. So remember, J.D. Vance leaked all of that to the New York Times as this war monitor account. It's an open source intelligence account, writes, with ratings in the toilet and Americans largely opposed to the war, it's hard not to see this leak as an effort to pay J.D.

4:22Ben Meiselas:Vance as a voice of reason ahead of 2028. That was April 10th of 2026, folks. We're now in June at this point, okay? And here J.D. Vance was leaking that on April 9th, a whole month, we're like 45, 50 days later at this point. But J.D. Vance didn't stop there. They also leaked the article to The Atlantic recently as well. Remember, Vance doubts the Pentagon's depiction of the Iran war. Even Steve Bannon knew that obviously Vance is the source of these leaks. Steve Bannon wrote, trouble in paradise. The Pentagon may not be giving Trump the full picture of the war. Vice President Vance is worried that the US is running low on weapons.

5:11Ben Meiselas:And so Trump believes that J.D. Vance is the leaker, that he's trying to undermine everybody. And again, you read between the lines here, Donald Trump hates J.D. Vance. He wants Vance out, but he realized Vance is a weak guy and ultimately he could put up with Vance's leaking so long as J.D. Vance makes a fool of himself publicly and says things like, I trust Donald Trump over the Pope. I mean, just to remind you of J.D. Vance's background, J.D. Vance had three different names before settling on J.D. Vance. He's had multiple different personalities. He went from thinking that he was a gay man for most of his early life.

5:53Ben Meiselas:And then he changed his name twice and then became an anti-LGBTQ extremist after growing up and as a young man believing that He was a gay man, he said. And then he said, I realized one day I wasn't gay anymore or something like that. Here are some photos of him in high school, photos of him in high school. And so multiple personalities with J.D. Vance. And J.D. Vance has been out there, though, saying things that seem also to undermine the regime. So J.D. Vance recently, May 18th, he said, when someone steals over a billion dollars from the government, that's theft from you. at the same time Donald Trump stole or was trying to steal$1.8 billion for the January 6th slush fund.

6:38Ben Meiselas:And then J.D. Vance that day said this. Do you see what's going on here behind the scenes? Here, play this clip.

6:48JD Vance:When somebody steals$1.4 billion from the Medicaid program, that is theft from you and that's theft from people who deserve to be able to go see a doctor. when people steal billions of dollars from the Medicare program that is theft from you. And it's also theft of the people who use the Medicare program to pay their bills.

7:09Ben Meiselas:J.D. Vance then said, if you want to make America great, you got to get rid of the crazy leadership in Washington. That's you. You guys are in charge. Republicans are in charge of every branch of government right now. Yeah, it's your regime. That's the leadership. Here, play this clip.

7:25JD Vance:So I'm not going to ask you to agree with us on every issue because that would be impossible. What I will ask you is if you want to make America great, if you want to protect your jobs and hopefully build jobs in this beautiful factory, if you want to make our streets even safer, if you want to rebuild the American dream for the next generation, vote against the crazy leadership in Washington, D.C.

7:51Ben Meiselas:Vote for. And then the things that like bother Trump about JD Vance is like, he just does weird stuff. Like when JD Vance points, he points with his middle finger and he does it in like a very interesting way. But like, who does this? Here, play this clip. The two youngest kids, bottom bunk, top bunk. Bottom bunk, top bunk. Bottom bunk, top bunk. You know, he brags about how he loves Magic the Gathering. Here, play this clip. Scandal of people new.

8:24JD Vance:I used to be really into, and I still have the cards, and I'm trying to get my eight-year-old to play with me. I used to be really into Magic the Gathering. So, like, really nerdy.

8:34Ben Meiselas:Really nerdy. Even Benny Johnson was out there, you know, saying in response to, I think it was, you know, Joe Rogan basically saying, like, why are all these MAGA people so not cool anymore? Like, why are they all such losers? And this is what J.D. Vance said about being a loser. Play this clip. Joe says MAGA's full of dorks.

8:53JD Vance:What do you think? You consider yourself a dork? He says MAGA's dorks. I think we have many, many fewer dorks than the far left, but everybody's got some dorks. We love our dorks. We love our cool kids. We love anybody who wants to save the country.

9:06Ben Meiselas:Then J.D. Vance bragged about cutting people in lines in Disney when he takes all these vacations. And one of the things that also pisses off Trump about Vance is that he hates when Vance takes vacations. Play this clip.

9:18JD Vance:So we had the island ourselves, which was very cool. I'd never been to Disneyland. They were shutting down the Disney World one. Yeah, that's, that's, uh, sorry to all the people who are Disneyland for the longer lines, but we had a very good time.

9:29Ben Meiselas:And I'll just remind you of this. I'm going to show you this footage. This is from April 1st, 2026. Let me repeat that. April 1st, 2026, Donald Trump says he will blame J.D. Vance if he doesn't get an Iran deal. This was leaked White House video. This video was not broadcast publicly. But then this one surfaced right here. Here, play this clip. He's working on the deal, right? How's that moving? Is it OK? The big deal? You see it happening? So if it doesn't happen, I'm blaming J.D. Vince. If it does happen, I'm taking full credit. No, I think it'll be. I think it has to happen. I think they're desperate.

10:17Ben Meiselas:Okay, then recently, J.D. Vance was asked, this was May 13th, what's your message to the American people as the Iran continues, as the Iran war continues to impact the economy in this country? He's like, well, other countries suffer a lot also. And well, my message is we have a lot of work to do. Here's what he has to say. Play this clip. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. My question is, what's your message to Americans as the Iran war continues to impact the economy, especially after yesterday's inflation report?

10:49JD Vance:Well, I guess my message to Americans is we know that we have a lot of work to do in order to deliver on the prosperity that the American people deserve.

11:00Ben Meiselas:Just to show you again, this was him dropping the Heisman Trophy. Play this clip.

11:18Ben Meiselas:And then one of the things that bothered Donald Trump as well is when J.D. Vance went on Hannity. This was back last year. And J.D. Vance says, you know, if anything happens to Donald Trump, I'm there when tragedy strikes. And that really bothered Trump as well. Here, play this clip. You seem to go with the flow pretty well. Do you have quiet moments? You think about that?

11:41JD Vance:Honestly, Sean, I try not to. I mean, one, I serve under Donald Trump, who is very healthy. He casts a pretty big shadow. He casts a big shadow. But if I served under Joe Biden, I'd probably be worried every minute of every day that he was going to croak and that I'd have to become president. But because I serve a president. You have a bat phone. Okay. Did it just happen? Like, I'd never be able to sleep. I'd always have my cell phone as loud as possible. But no, the president, one, you know, he's got a lot of energy. He's extremely healthy. So I don't think about that. Obviously, that's part of the job is you've got to be ready if tragedy strikes.

12:13Ben Meiselas:So it definitely does seem that Donald Trump is just completely he hates J. He hates J.D. Vance, you see, for yourself. It'll be fascinating to see if J.D. Vance is the next one to go or he gets pushed out. But I think Trump still is OK with Vance because how, you know, how Vance is willing, at least publicly, to make such a fool of himself. but we'll keep, we'll keep you posted on what's going on. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million subscribers. Interesting times. Hit subscribe. Thanks for watching. Want to stay plugged in? Become a subscriber to our sub stack at MidasPlus.com.

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From the publisher

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump growing to despise to JD Vance and wanting him gone and Meiselas discusses how Trump is leaning to the press to undermine JD Vance and JD Vance is leaking to the press to undermine Trump.

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