Trump Throws Vance Under the Bus as End Is Near

13 Jul 2026 · 17 min · 7 chapters

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In short

The episode argues that Donald Trump is publicly “throwing J.D. Vance under the bus” as Trump’s health declines and as the U.S. escalates its war posture toward Iran. It claims Vance is being used to absorb blame for failed Iran-related messaging and for election-fraud talking points.

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Key claims

Trump is deteriorating cognitively/physically; Vance is being deployed to appear “normal” (including a Wisconsin accent) while being portrayed as “bizarre.” The episode alleges Vance can’t answer basic questions about 2020 election fraud. It also claims Trump/Rubio’s team fabricated Iran “deal” narratives, with Marco Rubio refusing a Friday press call while Vance briefed reporters.

Notable examples

Vance’s Wisconsin-accent line (“I love Wisconsin, or as you guys say, Wisconsin”). A Milwaukee 2020 election question clip where Vance struggles. Vance’s “I wrote the book myself” and “college degrees/jobs are fake” comments. Vance’s “life transformed” remarks (no grocery shopping, 757 travel). Vance’s Elion Musk anecdote. The “erratic sect” Iran ship-hit explanation and the Friday briefing where Rubio declined. Vance’s “pro-fraud party” voting question aimed at voters.

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Chapters

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Trump's Health and J.D. Vance's Role

0:12 to 0:25

Discussion on Trump's cognitive decline and how he is using J.D. Vance.

“The Wells Fargo Active Cash credit card.”

Trump's Health and J.D. Vance's Role

2:41 to 4:49

Discussion on Trump's cognitive decline and how he is using J.D. Vance.

“Vance under the bus as Donald Trump's health is collapsing.”

J.D. Vance's Public Appearances

4:50 to 8:19

Analysis of J.D. Vance's speeches and performances in the media.

“So he's asked, so why is the Trump administration looking at the 2020 election in Milwaukee?”

Vance's Views on Education and Entitlement

8:20 to 9:33

Vance discusses education, degrees, and his view on entitlement as a public figure.

“She would also make sure that I didn't get too big for my britches.”

J.D. Vance's Relatable Story

9:51 to 12:15

Vance shares a peculiar story about Elon Musk and his life changes.

“And Elon's like, you know, I can buy a lot, but I can't buy that.”

J.D. Vance and the Iran Situation

12:16 to 14:00

Discussion on Vance's comments regarding Iran and Trump's foreign policy.

“And they also know that Donald Trump is panicking right now.”

Analysis of Political Maneuvering

14:00 to 15:49

Learn about the political strategies of J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio as they position themselves amid Trump's decline.

“catastrophic and unlawful war in the first place.”
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2:41Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is throwing J.D. Vance under the bus as Donald Trump's health is collapsing. Donald Trump, as you know, has been posting on social media that he took yet another cognitive exam. He also keeps on posting, ranting, and raving like a lunatic that he feels he's going to be assassinated soon by Iran. Donald Trump is clearly, clearly going through some things. We've known this before. He's cognitively and physically deteriorating before our eyes. And as Donald Trump sees that the clock is running out, I think he's thinking to himself, is it really going to be J.D.? Is it going to be Marco Rubio?

3:27Ben Meiselas:Who's it going to be? And then you have Pete Hegseth also swooping in, and Hegseth's trying to take his stab at being in the Oval Office, I suppose. And he's like, bad move you made, Iran. Big mistake, I'm coming after you. Those are the posts that he was making us. he's further escalating this disastrous war against Iran, exposing the United States to global economic catastrophe and destroying the lives of Americans. So Donald Trump's been having J.D. Vance go out there and give these speeches in Wisconsin and to go on these podcasts to try to act like he's normal. And of course, Trump and others know that J.D.

4:08Ben Meiselas:Vance is not normal at all. I think Donald Trump's just trying to show everybody just how bizarre and unstrange J.D. Vance is. So they have J.D. Vance go to Wisconsin and then he tries to do a Wisconsin accent. And I guess his speech writer put this into his speech. Let me show you what went down. Here, play this clip. I love Wisconsin, or as you guys say, Wisconsin, love Wisconsin, but we have got to have a gun. And then J.D. Vance couldn't answer some of the more basic questions about Donald Trump's election fraud, where Trump tries to lie about the results of the 2020 election. So he's asked, so why is the Trump administration looking at the 2020 election in Milwaukee?

4:55Ben Meiselas:and J.D. Vance like, whoa, a good, good question there. Here, play this clip. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Matt Smith from WISN TV in Milwaukee. The president has talked about election fraud as well a lot. Just yesterday, Milwaukee's mayor sent your office a letter saying he would love to meet with you and some election officials here in the city after agents started asking questions and interviewing people about 2020 again. So I'm curious, what can you tell us about the FBI investigation here in Milwaukee into 2020 and why are they re-looking at that election here in the city? Well, first of all, if I did.

5:36Ben Meiselas:And then J.D. Vance flips around a poster to show his audience, I guess something that the Trump regime was pursuing about fraud. Who the hell knows? But the glare was so bad you couldn't even see anything. Let me show you what was going down there. Let's play this clip. I want to point to this woman.

5:58Now, I want to be clear that the woman in the back did nothing wrong. But look at this woman in the front with the smug look and the Louis Vuitton bag. A woman.

6:08Ben Meiselas:So then they had J.D. Vance do this podcast with Mike Rowe called The Way I Heard it. And JD Vance, I mean, I'll just let you watch for yourself what went down as Trump's cabinet, as Trump, they're putting JD Vance out here to do these things. And it's kind of like a test for JD to see, all right, are you going to, are you going to be able to step in? Are you going to be able to be a full MAGA psycho? I mean, he is anyway, but here's what JD Vance talks about. i wrote the book i didn't use chat gpt you know here play this clip i i i i wrote the book myself and you know didn't use chat gpt and sometimes when politicians write books by the way the other thing i wanted to make sure is that it wasn't just a another like then jd vance accuses most people who go to college of getting fake degrees he goes you know it's not like your doctors or lawyers or engineers most people are getting fake jobs okay here play this clip right here but also number too a lot of the people who are going get and getting four-year degrees they're not like engineers and doctors they have effectively fake jobs and that and that's like and as part of that same podcast jd vents is he's asked can you describe like what your life is like as the vice president and watch what he says here play this clip i think that what mamaw would be worried about and it's something i worry about too is like my life is dude totally transformed i don't go to the grocery store anymore people go to the grocery store for me most of my meals like when i cook a meal it's like i love to cook actually big baker i like to cook for my kids as a special occasion but i don't have to cook anymore because i've got an army of people who are willing to like cook me my food my life is so weird i fly around on a 757 no more tsa lines for for me and the kids it's so weird but it can become the sort of thing that if you internalize it you start to be an entitled asshole.

8:07And I think that's the thing that Mamaw would really be insistent on is don't become entitled about this. Recognize it's cool. It's a blessing. Obviously, it comes along with duties and responsibilities, but she would be very proud of me. I know she would. She would also make sure that I didn't get too big for my britches. One thing I've learned is that car repairs never happen at a convenient time. I've had those moments where a warning light comes on and suddenly you're staring at a repair bill you weren't planning for. It's stressful, especially when you're lying on your car every single day.

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9:50Ben Meiselas:And then he tries to, I guess, make himself sound relatable. So he tells the story about being with elon musk and he's like elon musk is like man i could buy everything but i can't buy that and again jd is just to remind you how odd jd vance is as a human being here play this clip it's the thing that money can't buy so iowa i was traveling actually elon musk was in my motorcade at one point i think we were in florida actually just maybe during the transition and you know it It's just they had completely shut down traffic from the airport to, I think, Mar-a-Lago. And Elon's like, you know, I can buy a lot, but I can't buy that.

10:31I can't buy that.

10:33Ben Meiselas:Now, another thing that the Trump regime did is on Friday, before they escalated further in the war on Saturday, which we all know they were going to do, they held a conference call and Marco Rubio refused to be a part of this call. So it was J.D. Vance, it was Wyckoff, and it was Kushner to brief the press on, I guess, all of the lies that the Trump regime was saying. You know how on Friday they were like, Iran really wants to make a deal. They said that the reason that some cargo ships and other tankers were hit by Iran was that it was just like an erratic. They called it an erratic sect of the Iranians or whatever that meant.

11:16Ben Meiselas:the erratic sect. And they're the ones who did it. But the less erratic sect, they were like, we want to make peace with you. We want to do a deal. We're sorry about the erratic people. And then so we're like, okay, Iran, you want to say you're going to make a mistake? So they create this entire fabricated fan fiction that we've been telling you. You know, since you watch the Midas Touch Network that none of that's true. Iran's always been, And whether you like it or not, Iran's been very clear since March. They control the Strait of Hormuz. They will not allow their control over it to be removed because they view that as really their only leverage, their main leverage point, because they don't trust the Trump regime to keep its word in any negotiation.

11:58Ben Meiselas:So it's been very clear. They're not going to allow alternative routes. They will go to the end. They know that the Trump regime and the American people don't want a war. They know that. Donald Trump and some of his warmongers and neocons may want it, but they know the American people don't want it. And they also know that Donald Trump is panicking right now. So anyway, the point I'm making is J.D. Vance on Friday spoke to the press to update them about this lie. Whitcoff and Kushner refused to talk on the conference call. So it was just J.D. Vance. And everyone's like, okay, here comes the fall guy.

12:38Ben Meiselas:And then this is what J.D. Vance has said. J.D. Vance is like, all right. So the Iranians, they were like telling me, they're like, oh, wait, man, you're such a good negotiator, J.D. We gave up leverage that we didn't want to give up. So they, the Iranians, they decide to renege on the deal. And so they were like, We're reneging on the deal because they felt caught off guard about how good we were doing getting our oil out once the MOU was entered. And so now they breached the deal. And it's like, all right, what are you talking about, JD? They've been very clear about what their attentions are, whether we like it or not.

13:19Ben Meiselas:And at some point, you either are going to have to accept that, which I think you should, and just focus on domestic issues. Or I don't think you should do this. you know you're gonna if you're gonna change the dynamic in the straight of her moves you're gonna have to do like a ground invasion which is gonna cost hundreds of thousands of american lives and no one wants that y 'all got into this trap y 'all are stuck the best thing to do is just to is just to retreat and and you lost that that's that's what happened and they're all obviously pegging jd as the person who lost but it's not it's trump it's this whole it's netanyahu it's this whole regime.

13:56Ben Meiselas:And you know what? At the end of the day, you know, you should never have been in this catastrophic and unlawful war in the first place. And anyone could have predicted this was going to happen. And then JD, you know, I think trying to take a shot at Trump is like, let me ask you this very simple question. When you come to vote in November, are you going to vote for the pro-fraud party? Yeah. You're looking in a mirror, JD. Here, play this clip right here. So I ask you a very simple question. When you come to vote in November, are you going to vote for the pro-fraud party? Are you going to vote for the party who is sending your tax money to the fraudsters?

14:37No, we're going to support the party that is sending the fraudsters to jail and is protecting your money. We're going to vote for Derek Van Orden and for Brian Stile.

14:47Ben Meiselas:Well, there you have it, folks. I mean, you see what they're pushing them out to do. And meanwhile, while he's doing that, you have Marco Rubio on WhatsApp chats with Delcy Rodriguez, the president, the authoritarian president of Venezuela. And Marco Rubio is like, you know, running Venezuela. And that's like, that's his file. I'm the Venezuela. I'm the Venezuela guy. I'm the Cuba guy. Because I think Rubio wants to position himself right now for the presidency. I mean, we know that, and we know that in 2028, but I think they all see Donald Trump rapidly declining. I think they don't believe that Donald Trump's going to make it through the end of this term or even maybe through the end of this year.

15:25Ben Meiselas:I think that's what they feel. And you've got Rubio and you've got J.D. Vance kind of positioning themselves right now. And I think they're pushing J.D. out in order to show what he is. And then I think you have Rubio behind the scenes working with NetYahoo, working with, you know, others and others in the regime to try to put up Rubio. That's my guess. Tell me what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million. Thanks for watching.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump throwing JD Vance under the bus as Trump’s health declines and many are starting to feel the end is near.

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