Trump Tries to Kill Boebert’s Career Over Epstein Files

31 Dec 2025 · 21 min · 8 chapters

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In short

The episode argues Donald Trump is retaliating against Rep. Lauren Boebert for supporting the release of “Epstein files,” and that Trump’s veto of Colorado’s “Finish the Arkansas Valley Conduit Act” harms rural residents’ access to clean drinking water.

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Key claims

Trump pressured Boebert at the Oval Office with DOJ/FBI figures (Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, J.D. Vance, etc.) to remove her name from a discharge petition; Boebert refused. The episode claims Trump vetoed HR 131 to punish Colorado for not pardoning Jan. 6 insurrectionist Tina Peters and for opposing him.

Notable examples

Boebert’s “Finish the AVC Act” (H.R. 131) described as delivering clean water to up to 50,000 people; Trump’s veto proclamation; references to CNN reporting on the alleged shakedown meeting; clips praising Boebert from Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie; Kyle Clark’s claim Boebert forced Epstein file release.

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Trump's Retaliation Against Boebert

2:39 to 4:25

Explore Trump's threats and actions against Congresswoman Boebert.

“Donald Trump is viciously retaliating against MAGA Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert.”

Boebert's Legislative Efforts

4:25 to 7:08

Understand Boebert's efforts to secure clean drinking water in Colorado.

“So Trump used his first veto to block a bill that would bring clean drinking water to rural Colorado, a bill sponsored by Lauren Boebert and passed unanimously by both the House and the Senate.”

Trump's Veto Proclamation

7:08 to 8:15

Examine Trump's reasons for vetoing a bipartisan water project.

“out corruption and demanding accountability.”

Media Reactions and Boebert's Stance

8:15 to 10:01

Analyze media coverage and Boebert's public statements on the issue.

“Now, here is Lauren Boebert before she put her name on the discharge petition, where she says, of course, we need these files released.”

Boebert's Impact on the Epstein Files

12:13 to 14:02

Discuss how Boebert's actions led to the release of Epstein's files.

“Thanks for all the hard work you're putting in.”

Boebert's Arkansas Valley Conduit Act Explained

14:02 to 16:41

Learn about Lauren Boebert's bipartisan legislation aimed at improving water quality in Colorado.

“Here she was on the House floor talking about how important this finished the Arkansas Valley Conduit Act was because she says, We'll play this clip first.”

Trump's Veto and the Fallout

16:41 to 18:36

Explore the implications of Trump's veto on the Arkansas Valley Conduit Bill and his relationship with GOP members.

“Now, here's what Democratic Senator Michael Bennett had to say.”

Accusations of Cover-up and Corruption

18:36 to 19:01

Discussion on Trump and MAGA Republicans being accused of covering up a child sex trafficking ring.

“And now Donald Trump is trying to kill the people of Colorado because he wants to cover up a child sex trafficking ring.”
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2:39Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is viciously retaliating against MAGA Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert. You heard that right. Lauren Boebert. He goes from attacking Marjorie Taylor Greene to Lauren Boebert. What do they have in common? They both supported the release of the Epstein files. They both signed the discharge petition. Now with Lauren Boebert, you'll also recall that before that discharge petition ripened, what did Donald Trump do? He summoned Lauren Boebert to the Oval Office where he surrounded her with Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, J.D. Vance and others. And they started screaming at her. How dare you sign this?

3:20Ben Meiselas:We're going to screw you over if you dare allow this discharge petition to ripen. Take your name off Boebert right now or else. The same way they were harassing and intimidating the other Republican women who signed on like Marjorie Taylor Greene. And from what we're hearing as well, Nancy Mace was getting it behind the scenes as well. And she's put out statements saying that she's thinking about resigning. Lauren Boebert actually held her ground. She kept her name on the discharge petition, which was something that we should all applaud, not her overall conduct. So what is Donald Trump doing against her?

3:58Ben Meiselas:Now, Trump's retaliating against her and also against the governor as well, because the governor refuses to pardon a January 6th insurrectionist named Tina Peters. But here's what Donald Trump's doing. He's saying, I'm going to screw over the people from Colorado and make them drink a water that is dangerous and toxic and could seriously harm them. And I'm going to make sure your water bills in Colorado go up. Screw you, Colorado, is what Donald Trump says. So Trump used his first veto to block a bill that would bring clean drinking water to rural Colorado, a bill sponsored by Lauren Boebert and passed unanimously by both the House and the Senate.

4:43This is retaliation for Boebert supporting the release of the Epstein files and Colorado refusing to free a convicted felon currently in state prison for election tampering.

4:56Ben Meiselas:Yet again, Donald Trump is engaged in criminal behavior, impeachable behavior, treasonous behavior. He wants to kill the people of Colorado. Now, let me tell you about this act that Lauren Boebert introduced and that Donald Trump just vetoed. Here's how she described it. Today, I introduced the finish the AVC Act to complete the Arkansas Valley Conduit Project. Southeast Coloradans have been waiting for decades for the completion of the Arkansas Valley Conduit. The finish the AVC Act will help local governments finally finish this major project. Rural families and businesses need access to clean, sustainable water they can depend on every day.

5:41It's time we get the ABC done for Colorado. And I look forward to working with Senator Bennett and another senator there to get this bill through both chambers of Congress. And she did succeed in getting it through, but Donald Trump vetoed it. Now, here's what Lauren Boebert just put out this message. So Trump decided to veto a completely non-controversial bipartisan bill that passed both the House and the Senate unanimously, Boebert writes. Why? Because nothing says America first like denying clean drinking water to 50 ,000 people in Southeast Colorado, many of whom enthusiastically voted for him in all three elections.

6:26I must have missed the rally where he stood in Colorado and promised to personally derail critical water infrastructure projects. My bad. I thought the campaign was about lowering costs and cutting red tape. But hey, if this administration wants to make its legacy, blocking projects that deliver water to rural Americans, that's on them. I'm going to continue fighting for Colorado and standing up for our rural communities, our farmers and every family that deserves safe, reliable drinking water without decades more delay. And I sincerely hope this veto has nothing to do with political retaliation for calling out corruption and demanding accountability.

7:11Americans deserve leadership that puts people over politics. This is not the last Southeast Colorado will hear from me on this critical infrastructure project. Now, Donald Trump and the White House are bragging about screwing over the people of Colorado and screwing over Lauren Boebert and the governor there. Here is the official veto proclamation by Donald Trump. Here's what he writes to the House of Representatives. Enough is enough. My administration is committed to preventing American taxpayers from funding expensive and unreliable policies. Ending the massive cost of taxpayer handouts and restoring fiscal sanity is vital to economic growth and the fiscal health of the nation.

8:01For these reasons, I cannot support the Finish the Arkansas Valley Conduit Act. Therefore, it is my duty to return HR 131 to the House of Representatives without my approval. So vetoed. Now, here is Lauren Boebert before she put her name on the discharge petition, where she says, of course, we need these files released. Here play this clip. I think if anything anybody wants to see is the list. We want to see the list, period. I don't care what names are on it. I want to see what names are on it and why. And a reminder, this is how it was reported when Donald Trump called in all his top officials at the DOJ to try to shake down Boebert in order to tell Boebert that you better remove your name from the discharge petition or else.

8:49Here's how it was reported on CNN. Let's play this clip right here. What one source tells me is that this meeting was planning to include some key figures from the Justice Department, the FBI Director Kash Patel, the Attorney General Pam Bondi, the Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, and then one of those Republicans in support of transparency, Republican Representative Lauren Boebert of Colorado. So what might happen at this meeting if Boebert could be swayed in a different direction on wanting transparency here? That is all something that is going to be at issue and that the White House is clearly concerned about, having discussions about it.

9:28On top of that, Dana, another thing to remember here is that the Justice Department has tried many different ways to distract from releasing the full Justice Department files. They tried to get grand jury records out there. Blanche talked to Ghislaine Maxwell, a co-conspirator in Florida. When Ghislaine spoke to Todd Blanche, she told him that Trump himself never acted inappropriately, and she never saw anything untoward in any way toward underage girls. Dana? Yeah. But she also said he was never at the house. And in the email, Epstein said he was at the house. So this is going to be a very interesting meeting.

10:02The fact that Lauren Boebert is going to be there is especially fascinating. Now, when Caroline Levitt, the chief propagandist at the White House, was asked about all of this and the fact that there was this shakedown taking place of Boebert, here's what Caroline Levitt said. She's like, Doesn't this show transparency that we are openly telling you we're doing a shakedown of Boebert and threatening and harassing her? Here play this clip. Given your interest in transparency, Caroline, why are White House officials then meeting with Representative Boebert in an effort to try and get her to not sign this petition, calling for the release of the files?

10:40Doesn't it show transparency that members of the Trump administration are willing to brief members of Congress whenever they please? Doesn't that show our level of transparency? Doesn't that show the level of transparency when we are willing to sit down with members of Congress and address their concerns? That is that's a defining factor of transparency. Having discussions, having discussions with members of Congress about various issues. And I'm not going to detail conversations that took place in the situation room, in the press briefing room.

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12:48And also to Nancy Mace and Marjorie Taylor Greene. There was all the speculation that they might take their names off and they never did. So it's, it's not a hoax. It's not a moot point. It is a very serious thing. There are a thousand victims and there are survivors who have had a press conference with Ro Khanna and I, and that's what we're fighting for, justice for them. Now, here is Kyle Clark, who back on November 18th, 2025, when the discharge petition was signed, when it was voted on in the House and the Senate, you have Kyle Clark, one of the best reporters in the country. And he reports on local Colorado news.

13:25He said that Lauren Boebert deserves praise for going against her party and signing the discharge petition. Here, play this clip. It is no exaggeration to say that Congresswoman Lauren Boebert's most impactful accomplishment in five years in Congress is the forcing of the release of the Epstein files. The House voted nearly unanimously today to do it with fellow Republicans like Colorado's Gabe Evans taking credit for the transparency. But it was Boebert, not Evans, who stood nearly alone in her party in defying Republican leadership and President Trump to force this vote. Now, this was a big initiative again for Lauren Boebert.

14:05Here she was on the House floor talking about how important this finished the Arkansas Valley Conduit Act was because she says, We'll play this clip first. She talks about how her bipartisan bill, if it's not passed, will lead to water costs tripling in Colorado because the water gets so dangerous in rural areas in particular. Here, play this clip. Radium, uranium, and other naturally occurring elements are found in the surface and groundwater in southeastern Colorado. And the water quality is problematic year-round because of its salinity, selenium, sulfate, hardness, and magnes levels. The Bureau of Reclamation has found these contamination levels are so severe that local communities could see the costs of their drinking water triple without this legislation.

15:01The Finish the ABC Act will ease the burden of inflation costs that have caused the original $640 million estimate of construction in 2019 to rise to more than$1.3 billion. Here she is talking about it again on that same House floor speech. Let's play this clip. The general is recognized. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, Mr. Chairman, for your support on this bill. I rise to speak in favor of my bill, H.R. 131, finish the Arkansas Valley Conduit Act to help complete construction of a critical infrastructure project that will provide tens of thousands of Southeast Colorado residents with access to clean water.

15:46Southeast Coloradans have waited decades for the completion of the Arkansas Valley Conduit, and while we have made a lot of progress in the recent years and the first two segments of the project are under construction, we still have a long way to go. This bipartisan and bicameral legislation will help the Bureau of Reclamation and local governments finally complete this major water project. Rural communities in southeastern Colorado need and deserve access to clean, reliable, and affordable water that they can utilize on a daily basis. Once completed, the Arkansas Valley Conduit will provide 7 ,500 acre feet of water per year to as many as 50 ,000 Coloradans across 40 different communities in Pueblo, Otero, Bent, Kiowa, Prowers, and Baca counties.

16:42Now, here's what Democratic Senator Michael Bennett had to say. Trump just vetoed my Arkansas Valley Conduit Bill passed unanimously to deliver clean, affordable water to Southeast Colorado. This isn't governing. It's a revenge tour. It's unacceptable. I'll keep fighting to get rural Colorado the clean water they deserve. Now, lots of people are asking, can this bill somehow get back to life? Can you put this funding in an omnibus bill? And Kyle Clark says, perhaps you can put it in an omnibus bill, but a lot of the other MAGAs may be thinking, oh, we can't get Donald Trump mad and we don't want to do that.

17:26So just screw over Colorado. Now, it should also be noted that this comes at the same time that Donald Trump now refers to Marjorie Taylor Greene as a traitor and says, well, things that are green turn brown because they rot. And he describes her as rotten. And you know, she gave that interview with the New York Times that we reported on where she went scorched earth on Trump for covering up the Epstein files. And Trump said to her when he was yelling at her and screaming at her for supporting the release of the Epstein files, Trump said, you're going to hurt my friends if this gets released. I can't have my friends get hurt, referring to the other predators that Donald Trump wants to protect as part of this child sex trafficking ring.

18:09So folks, in summation, Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans are covering up a child sex trafficking ring. Any of the Republicans, no matter how MAGA they are, who supported the release of files to expose the child sex trafficking ring. They're now viewed as subversive persons and they are being exiled from MAGA because they do the bare minimum in wanting to release the names of people and the files of a child sex trafficking ring. And now Donald Trump is trying to kill the people of Colorado because he wants to cover up a child sex trafficking ring. That right here is the corrupt, criminal, treasonous, traitorous, disgusting, despicable, vile, evil Trump regime.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump attacking Lauren Boebert by vetoing her key bill to bring clean drinking water to 50,000 people in rural Colorado as retaliation for her vote to release the Epstein files on the discharge petition.

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