In short
Ben Mycelis delivers breaking-news commentary on Donald Trump’s G7 trip and a leaked U.S.-Iran memorandum of understanding (MOU), alleging it includes $300 billion to Iran, sanctions relief, and an “investment fund,” while criticizing Trump’s competence, transparency, and the deal’s durability versus the Obama-era JCPOA.
Guest backgrounds
No guests appear in the transcript; it’s a solo host segment.
Key claims
Trump is physically/cognitively declining during the G7; leaders had to redirect him. The Iran MOU is non-binding and reportedly unlawful/unauthorized without Congress, and Trump claims it’s “powerful” without explaining terms. The host argues the deal is weaker than JCPOA, may just kick the problem to a future president, and resembles “painting it blue” (a metaphor tied to the Lincoln Memorial reflecting pool algae). He also claims Trump contradicts himself on “regime change,” and misstates geography (saying Qatar and Iran can be walked to).
Notable examples
Trump grabbing Modi’s wrist; weak handshake with Macron; hydrogen-peroxide/algae story about the reflecting pool; Trump saying Qatar is “45 minutes” away and that you can walk across borders; claims about Iran officials (e.g., Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian/Aragchi) and North Korea’s JCPOA-related precedent.
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Chapters
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0:00 to 0:24
An overview of Donald Trump's performance and behavior at the G7 summit.
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Trump's G7 Performance
1:06 to 2:34
An overview of Donald Trump's performance and behavior at the G7 summit.
“His worst nightmare, cognitively, physically declining before our eyes.”
Concerns Over Trump's Health
2:34 to 4:14
Discussion on Trump's apparent cognitive and physical decline during the summit.
“But let me take you to France where this G7 is being held.”
Media Reactions to Trump
4:14 to 5:28
Analyzing the media's portrayal of Trump's actions during the summit.
“Yeah, you see French President Emmanuel Macron and Bridgette are like, where's he going?”
Trump's Critique of Obama
5:28 to 7:33
Examining Trump's criticisms of Obama's policies in a press context.
“I don't even know what you're talking about.”
The Iran Deal Discussion
7:33 to 14:00
In-depth analysis of the leaked memorandum of understanding with Iran and its implications.
“I mean, and I'm not a fan of that, by the way, but is that what it is?”
Suffering American People
14:00 to 15:00
Discussion on the struggles faced by Americans amidst Trump's policies.
“Not because I'm rooting for Trump or rooting for it.”
Critique of Trump's Foreign Policy
15:00 to 17:40
Examination of Trump's foreign policy failures and their implications.
“I mean, Obama's plan actually had teeth and it had multilateral, by the way, far less money.”
Regime Change and Its Consequences
17:40 to 19:40
Analysis of Trump's stance on regime change, particularly in Iran and North Korea.
“So you have Abu Dhabi guys, the president right now, MBZ is his name.”
Trump's Inconsistent Narrative
19:40 to 21:40
Discussion on Trump's contradictory statements regarding Iranian leadership.
“is there, but it's a facade and people believe that the proximity to it, you know, is people just buying to the fraud?”
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Public Perception and Deception
21:40 to 24:20
Exploration of how the public perceives Trump's actions and the allure of his lifestyle.
“And also, I just want everybody to know the truth.”
Canada's Political Landscape
24:20 to 26:40
Overview of Canada's political challenges and leadership under pressure from the US.
“No, I mean, personally, I don't like UFC.”
Geopolitical Misunderstandings
26:40 to 28:00
Discussion on Trump's geographical misunderstandings and their implications.
“And as we'll talk about in the second half of the show, Trump's approach is just paint it blue.”
Geopolitical Commentary on Trump and Iran
28:00 to 36:19
Discussion on Trump's relationship with Iran and his geographic understanding.
“But we need a president who understands basic geography, right?”
Geopolitical Commentary on Trump and Iran
36:22 to 37:41
Discussion on Trump's relationship with Iran and his geographic understanding.
“Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today.”
Geopolitical Commentary on Trump and Iran
38:27 to 39:45
Discussion on Trump's relationship with Iran and his geographic understanding.
“The Q-Collar is a revolutionary product that is the only FDA clear device in its category to help protect the brain from the effects of impacts during sports.”
Reactions to Trump's Press Conference
39:57 to 42:00
Analysis of Trump's remarks on Iran and the changing dynamics in the Middle East.
“Saw the following post, which made me laugh.”
Middle East Dynamics and US Relations
42:00 to 44:44
Explore the shifting dynamics of Middle Eastern nations and their views on the US.
“And there was lots of reporting that the UAE was giving Iran billions of dollars.”
Humor in Politics: A Serious Discussion
44:44 to 46:56
Discusses the inappropriate humor in political discourse and its implications.
“And he'll do more blowing up of boats off the coast of Venezuela and in the Pacific also, and engaged in more war crimes there.”
JD Vance's Role in Political Deals
46:56 to 49:09
Analyzes JD Vance's involvement in political negotiations and his integrity.
“To me, humor is punching up and mocking power structures.”
Critique of Political Strategies
49:09 to 53:24
Critiques the effectiveness of current political strategies in dealing with war and peace.
“Ratcliffe and Rubio and Netanyahu and everybody like that.”
Reflecting Pool and Environmental Concerns
53:24 to 55:45
Discusses the environmental challenges of the reflecting pool and potential solutions.
“It's a perfect metaphor for what's happening here.”
Engaging the Public in Decision Making
55:45 to 56:00
Emphasizes the importance of public engagement in important political decisions.
“It's going to cost us potentially a billion dollars over the next 20 years to deal with the algae situation.”
The Reality of the Reflecting Pool
56:00 to 57:08
Explore the misconceptions and realities surrounding the reflecting pool and its maintenance.
“If I told you the truth about the reflecting pool and explained to you the origins, first off, wouldn't you appreciate that I was just being honest with you about what the issue was?”
Healthcare and Political Promises
57:08 to 58:08
Discussion on the Affordable Care Act and the challenges of healthcare reform.
“Donald Trump can say in 2018, I'm going to get out of this Obama deal and I'm going to do a deal so much better.”
Critique of Trump's Approach
58:08 to 59:20
Analyze Trump's strategies regarding international deals and domestic policies.
“But in that time period, the best he could get was the Affordable Care Act.”
The Impact of Leadership on America
59:20 to 1:01:12
Delve into the consequences of leadership decisions on American society.
“If you didn't want to do it or memorandum understand, then don't do it.”
A Call for Constructive Politics
1:01:12 to 1:03:46
Advocating for constructive political dialogue and effective governance.
“I'm anti this thing that's in the Oval Office that is so negatively impacting the American people.”
Kamala Harris on Iran
1:03:46 to 1:04:19
Watch highlights from Kamala Harris's speech regarding negotiations with Iran.
“to then inflict nationwide, and that found its home in Project 2025.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This is a Monday.com ad. TheSameMonday.com helping people worldwide getting work done faster and better. TheSameMonday.com designed for every team and every industry. TheSameMonday.com with built-in AI. Scaling your work from day one. TheSameMonday.com that your team will actually love using. TheSameMonday.com with an easy and intuitive setup. Go to Monday.com and try it for free. Yes, TheSameMonday.com. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile, with a message for everyone paying big wireless way too much. Please, for the love of everything good in this world, stop. With Mint, you can get premium wireless for just$15 a month.
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1:24Indeed,$300 billion will be going to Iran as part of an investment fund. I'll go through all of the terms that have now leaked.
1:35Ben Meiselas:But Donald Trump, after doing that bizarre UFC event where Trump was sleeping on Sunday while this UFC event was taking place, and while you had the reflecting pool turning, I refer to it as Ninja Turtle green. I mean, the algae is worse than you could ever possibly fathom. And now I'll tell you what they're doing in this show to try to address it. Donald Trump traveled to France where I think world leaders knew that he was cognitively and physically declining. I think the world knew he was, but they're seeing it firsthand. And I think it's deeply alarming that an individual like this is currently doing what he's doing in the United States.
2:24I don't want to say leading. He's currently bringing the United States into an irreparable abyss from which it's going to be very hard to dig our way out of. And Trump and MAGA will spend all their time, you know, if a Democratic president wins in 2028, to blame them for the systemic destruction of the United States of America before our eyes. But let me take you to France where this G7 is being held. Here, Donald Trump starts wandering off in the wrong direction after a G7 photo and world leaders have to step in to redirect him. Let's play this clip.
3:20Then you'll see Donald Trump grabbing Indian Prime Minister Modi's wrist for support as he steps up a small stair during the G7 summit. Let's play it.
3:39we saw a similar moment where donald trump was losing his balance and he had to hold french president emmanuel macron's wife bridgette macron who donald trump has also attacked before and very viciously he attacked her before but he had to hold her hand literally to stay up did you all see this moment let's play it
4:14Thank you.
4:20Yeah, you see French President Emmanuel Macron and Bridgette are like, where's he going? Where's he going right there? And then there was the handshake between Donald Trump and French President Emmanuel Macron, where it seemed that Trump lacked the strength to even do a handshake. Here, let's play this clip. Maybe handshake, Mr. President.
4:48Do it one more time there, Jeremy, because it looked like almost him lifting his arm caused a great deal of pain, it almost looked like. Here, let's play it one more time. Maybe handshake, Mr. President.
5:05A gasp when he did the handshake. So on state regime media, which calls itself Fox, they were applauding Donald Trump for even being able to walk. They go, after all he's been through in the past 24 hours, the guy can walk. How incredible is that? I mean, that's your standard right now for the president of the United States, that they can walk. Here's what they say on state regime media. Let's play it.
5:52I don't even know what you're talking about. He went to a UFC fight. he created some deranged event at the White House that's what he's oh my god can you
6:02Ben Meiselas:let's get this guy a purple heart he he attended the UFC fight and then he had to get a memorandum of understanding done on his birthday so it just had to happen it had to happen on his b-day I had to do it I had to do it after all he's been through then he had to go on a Qatari gifted jet He had to go on Air Force One and go to sleep in a luxurious bed. Oh my gosh. I mean, do y 'all realize what Americans go through on a day-to-day basis? Has y 'all ripped away healthcare from the American people as people work multiple jobs and can barely afford their rent or often can't afford their rent at all as their houses are going into foreclosure, as they can't afford their gas, as they have to make decisions.
6:53Ben Meiselas:Am I going to be able to fill up my car this month or am I going to be able to buy myself or buy my kids a sandwich for dinner? That's going through things. Throwing yourself some deranged circus, bizarre event with idiots screaming, Michelle Obama's a man at the White House and then going on to Air Force One and sleeping. You're not going to gain sympathy from me as that's like, wow, can you believe what he did? He's walking, everybody. Yay. I mean, what is this like going to SeaWorld? I mean, and I'm not a fan of that, by the way, but is that what it is? Shamu clapped, everybody. I mean, is that really where we are?
7:44Ben Meiselas:This is the presidency. Could you imagine if it was the CEO of NVIDIA or Microsoft or Google or any Fortune 500 company? Set aside that, any medium-sized business, a principal at a school, the vice principal at a school. like, oh my God, did you see Mr. O 'Brien? He walked? Oh, he's been through so much. What are you talking about, dude? At a bare minimum, they should be able to exhibit signs of life. But then, I mean, Donald Trump, when he actually sat with Macron, he was asked by a reporter. So like, all right, this memorandum of understanding with Iran, when does that get released? Like, when do we see it?
8:36Ben Meiselas:When do we get to see the words? Because usually when people do a deal, they don't hide it when it's a trade deal or a public deal. And usually it's not a memorandum of understanding. What is this? A non-binding MOU to do due diligence on a company? What is this? I mean, there's a deal. A deal should have binding terms. It should be made public. By the way, Donald Trump doesn't have the authority to enter the United States into an MOU. That's not even the way our system works. Him and J.D. Vance can't even do it. It requires Congress. I know that's a novel concept also for a lot of people, but Trump can't.
9:25Ben Meiselas:He can't sign it. I mean, if there are things in this document like sanctions relief, the sanctions were imposed by Congress. So you need Congress to remove certain sanctions and things like that. You're just going to sign the document. Anyway, here's what Donald Trump says when he's asked. So when will the text of the MOU be released? Let's play it. Mr. President, when will the text of the MOU Will you be released? I think pretty soon. I would say, I mean, I want it to be released because it's a very powerful document. It's not like the Obama document, which was just a terrible document. This is a very powerful document and I want it to be released.
10:05So probably pretty soon. I would say after sometime after Friday, because the strait opens completely. It's open now, but it opens completely. We'll have all the mines knocked out for the most part. We have a lot of lanes right now already. So I think sometime in the very near future. Also, what does it mean that there's a very powerful document?
10:31Ben Meiselas:That's not even a real thing to say. The document has power. The document is a powerful document. I don't even know what that even means. It's a deal. It's supposed to be a negotiated compromise. This is a powerful memorandum of understanding addendum. Okay, what does it even mean? And also, I mean, here's the thing that also shows such weakness too. Constantly attacking Obama, especially on the world stage like that, it's setting aside that it's not a good look. Like it just, it's the ultimate sign of weakness. you're not signaling strength when you have to constantly compare yourself to a former president who happens to be very, very popular still in the United States and internationally.
11:23Ben Meiselas:Just if you even think about it in general, what world leaders are out there that, name any world leader, that really spends significant portions of time obsessing over the predecessor and on the world stage, mind you, on the world stage, constantly attacking the predecessor by name over and over again. And then, of course, when you dig into this memorandum of understanding, it is much weaker than former President Obama's non-nuclear deal, which was called the JCPOA. Now, as I've said, it's tough to report on in the sense that I want there to be a deal. I'm not rooting for this deal to fall apart.
12:16I actually think when you go into a catastrophic unlawful war like Trump did and
12:25Ben Meiselas:brought the United States into with Netanyahu, and you lose in the catastrophic and unlawful war, and you break things and you destroy things, you fix what you break. You lose. So to me, the document is actually a rational document based on what took place. U.S. and Israel lost. They went into the war unlawfully. And so the deal is reflective of a loss. That's just the reality of it. And so I'm not rooting that this document, I certainly don't want there to be war in the first place. I don't want the war to resume. So where I say the difficult in reporting on it is, on the one hand, I'm deeply critical of someone like Trump who brought us into this unlawful and catastrophic war in the first place and made all of these promises, regime change, and we're getting the nuclear dust, and we're doing all of these things, and we're going to be greeted as heroes in Iran, and all of them are wrong.
13:31Ben Meiselas:And so I think I need to point that out as a reporter dealing with objective facts. Frankly, though, as an American, I don't want to be involved in never-ending wars. So I want us to be out of there. I look at the deal and I go, those terms seem to be reflective of what happens when you lose. It reached a compromise. My hope is that the Strait of Hormuz really can now be reopened like it was opened before this catastrophic war. I want to root for the investment fund or whatever this is to work. Not because I'm rooting for Trump or rooting for it. I'm rooting for the American people. I genuinely, I know people are on the brink and people have already passed the brink and they're suffering and they can't afford anything right now.
14:21And everything's been exacerbated by this catastrophic war. But frankly, it was all beginning with Trump's disastrous policies like his tariffs against
14:30Ben Meiselas:the world. And so, you know, I when I talk about, you know, Trump surrendered, I'm not rude. I would want to be very vulnerable and open with you that I'm not rooting for the deal to fall apart. And so I'm actually rooting for us to get the hell out of there and to not be involved in these never ending wars, and to not put more treasury and more American lives or anybody's lives on the line. You know, I just, I'm not sure this document is going to be able to accomplish that because it's not even a deal, right? I mean, Obama's plan actually had teeth and it had multilateral, by the way, far less money.
15:10Ben Meiselas:And it had multilateral mechanisms for inspections. It had lots of details and lots of details regarding the details and buy-in from the whole international community. And this doesn't have that. So I'm just I'm not confident that this is an arrangement for anything other than Trump passing on the problem to a future president to deal with. And then Trump and MAGA and all of these, you know, MAGA Republican senators who are so tribal that they don't see the bigger picture or they can't see that they don't care about the bigger picture of how this stuff impacts America. They just go right into attack mode.
15:55Oh my God, did you see inflation is surging and America's never been this weak and all these other countries have formed alliances and frozen the America out. Oh my God, this Democratic president has screwed it up. Oh, Donald Trump was holding it all. No, no, no. Trump screwed it all up like he did in his first term, like he did in his first term.
16:12Ben Meiselas:And I brought this up before and I'll just bring it up again. And one of the things about the JCPOA is that it also was intended as a template for North Korea. So when Obama did the JCPOA, it was the beginning to ensure a non-nuclear North Korea. And when Obama thought he was going to be passing the baton on to Hillary Clinton and not Donald Trump, Trump, the JCPOA was going to be the North Korea template with the same actors involved multilaterally. And then Kim Jong-un in 2018 saw Donald Trump pull out of the JCPOA and he said, got it. This guy's easy to play. Let me send him love letters. Let me pretend I like him.
16:56Ben Meiselas:Let me do the flattery. Let me buy time. I'll build up the nuclear arsenal while I send Trump love letters and then we'll become a nuclear power and then no one can stop us. And that's what North Korea did also. So the JCPOA not only had disastrous impacts in terms of the U.S. creating conditions of further instability in the Middle East, but it also led to North Korea. I just think that's important. Going back to this disastrous G7 trip, you had Donald Trump also meeting with the emir of Qatar, also the emir of Abu Dhabi, who's the president right now of the UAE. Just to give you a little fact about the UAE, they have a rotating presidency with different emirs of the different Emiratis.
17:41Ben Meiselas:So you have Abu Dhabi guys, the president right now, MBZ is his name. But anyway, you had the emir of Qatar here. And then Donald Trump said, you know, look, I've never believed in regime change at all to begin with. So I've never wanted regime change in Iran. So who's mentioning regime change? Here, Let's play this clip.
18:05So, again, I don't believe the regime change. You know, I've watched regime changes for years. They never work. It has to just happen. I can tell you this is a country where the emir is so respected and the prime minister is so respected by the people. And that's the way it comes. It's also seemed like a veiled threat also, like talking about regime change and then
18:29Ben Meiselas:bringing up the emir is respected by his people. But then also him saying, I've never been about regime change. I mean, he's literally the whole thing. They were saying regime change. Like, you know, and a little bit later in the episode, when we talk more about the reflecting pool, I just think the reflecting pool is a perfect metaphor for everything in the Trump regime, the reflecting pool and the coverup of Trump's name being removed from the Kennedy Center, right? You have the coverup and you have painting something blue. And Trump's fraud and coverups, eventually you get caught. Eventually all your bullshit runs out.
19:08Ben Meiselas:And that's been Trump's entire life. It's why he's bankrupted so many companies and so many things because he has this way. And I don't know why. I don't know how. I don't know why people buy his BS. I don't understand how people, not you, but how people fall into this even when he keeps on screwing over people. I wish I could delve deeper into the human psyche and what is it about it? Is it the allure of this lifestyle that people were told about the American dream that you think is there, but it's a facade and people believe that the proximity to it, you know, is people just buying to the fraud?
19:52Ben Meiselas:Do they think not me, that I could be part of this little club? You know, are people just easily fooled that easily? Like it's, it's, there's the, it's very hard for me to fully grasp. It just makes no sense to me. I know sometimes you struggle like, what is it that brings there? But eventually he ends up screwing the people. That's what happens. And we're seeing it play out. And with Trump's now, what he's trying to sell is that he actually likes this Iranian regime, that they're great people, and that we're dealing with really strong, really smart people. And again, I mean, I want to just simply highlight that this is what he's saying now after everything he said before.
20:50Ben Meiselas:I mean, how do you have any credibility when you say, I'm going to kill these people, they're crazy, and now you love them and they're strong and you want to be their friends and you want to invite them into the White House and you want to spray cologne on them? Here's what he says about the current Iranian leadership. Let's play.
21:10Regime change, because you know better than anybody, the first group, they're all dead. The second group, they're dead. A part of the third group is gone. And we're dealing with people that I think are very rational people. I mean, they were nice to deal with. They were strong people, smart people. I think actually they're smarter than the first and second group, but they're not radicalized and they're, you know, looking to help their country. So again, I don't believe the regime change. You know, I've watched.
21:45Ben Meiselas:I don't believe in regime change. It's crazy. It's crazy stuff. And also, I just want everybody to know the truth. Like M.B. Galabaf was deeply embedded in Iran's military his entire life. He's Iran's parliament leader. He's the guy who will be shaking hands with J.D. Vance in Switzerland when this already electronically signed MOU becomes publicly signed. If we can get there to Friday, we'll see about that. But M.B. Galabaf isn't a new guy. I mean, he's been their parliament leader for a long time, and he's been rising up the ranks. One of the guys they killed who was a more moderating figure, if you want to even say that, is a guy named Ali Laranjani, who was like their national security guy.
22:40He was replaced with a more hardliner. The Trump regime and Netanyahu killed that guy. Foreign Minister Aragchi has been around for forever.
22:49Ben Meiselas:He actually writes books on, ironically, negotiations in Iran. He's one of the foremost international experts on the art of negotiation. Isn't that fascinating that Iran has a real person who actually is an art of the deal and the US has an art of the fraud person? It's a fascinating dynamic because Aragchi, if you go to his background, he's been writing these treatises and books and he teaches negotiation. He's actually a well-respected foreign diplomat. He's been a leader of Iran for a very long time. The Ayatollah Sun is now in charge as the spiritual leader. The IRGC is still there. So it's just when Trump says these things, it's just it's counterfactual.
23:39Now, if you want to say that these people were rational before and that you find the current negotiating posture more rational, I don't know.
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23:49Ben Meiselas:I mean, just I think we, the people can understand like we're not stupid. We're not stupid. it. I mean, maybe some people are, not us. I mean, the people who were clapping when the UFC fighter said Michelle Obama's a man, I don't know how to ever get in touch with those. I'm not fully sure how to ever interact with those people validly. And I'm not trying to be like a party pooper, right? I'm not trying to be like, let's not have fun or UFC sucks. No, I mean, personally, I don't like UFC. I like football or in the United States, we call it soccer. I'm a big Nick fan. I like boxing. I like running.
24:33Ben Meiselas:I played sports in high school. And I don't think personally, like broing out to me ever meant like attacking marginalized groups and like mocking and being racist and mocking transgender people or marginalized communities that to me, to me, you could like, like if, if we want to be like dudes and bro out and do that, like we, we, I'm not, I'm not trying to like, like act like you, you know, you shouldn't do that or whatever. Just, just don't bully marginalized communities. Don't be racist assholes. Don't that's, that's not a, that's not funny when you see stuff like that, call it out. I don't know the way I was raised, you know, the bully wasn't the, you know, it's the bully wasn't the cool person, you know, you, you, you, you needed to, when I was president of my high school, you know, I would stand up for people in my school.
25:29Ben Meiselas:I wouldn't be, I wouldn't want to use my position even when I was student government president of high school to like denigrate and bully people. That wasn't what leadership was. And it was very basic to me in high school. And so I think one of the consequences of this Trump and this kind of weird MAGA movement is that, but one of the projects that I've dedicated my life to, among others, is to try to push back on that. Sorry that I digress right there. But I want us to be able to handle the facts. To me, Prime Minister Carney has been dealt a very difficult hand in Canada. He has to deal with with American war against Canada.
26:15Ben Meiselas:And Canada for decades built a dependence on the United States. It wasn't Carney's fault, but it was a view that the United States and Canada were inseparable, you know, and were close. And Trump changed that equation. Canada had a dependency on the US. That dynamic changed. Carney has to change it up. But Carney tells the people what the dynamics are. He sets a vision. He explains the problems. And he says, you know, we could always be at the, we could always have our sovereignty attacked by the United States and we could always be dependent in a bad way, or we can try to take control of our destiny and help unite the mid powers, Canada, European Union, others, and form a stronger alliance and stand up and be a major power.
27:13Ben Meiselas:And he levels with the people. He talks to the people that way. And Trump just lies. And as we'll talk about in the second half of the show, Trump's approach is just paint it blue. Just dress it up. Just say$30 trillion was brought in when we didn't bring in$30 trillion, dollars, right? Just say like a miracle, it's all going to go away. Just say regime change. Just say when that's not actually what's happening. Then Trump also claims that Qatar and Iran share a land border and that you can walk from one to the other. Here's what he says. Let's play it. Any money in Iran. Working with Qatar and the people of Qatar was really a pleasure.
27:56They were tough they were strong you know they are the closest to iran physically so with other countries i noticed i had to travel about 45 minutes to get there with you you could walk right across the border so you were in a more dangerous position yeah you can just so everybody can see let's look at a map let's look at a map look where iran is look where qatar is look where the strait of Hormuzes, you see that if you wanted to walk from Iran to Qatar, you'd have to go through Iraq, Saudi Arabia, maybe Kuwait, maybe Bahrain, but you'd have to at least cross two or three borders to get there.
28:43Or you can cross the Persian Gulf. But we need a president who understands basic geography, right? Like, I don't think that's asking too much.
28:54Ben Meiselas:I mean, if you accept a 747 jet from a country, from the person who's sitting right there, at the very least, you can know maybe where the country is located on a map. And, you know, call me old fashioned, but I remember the days where if you spelled potato wrong, right, Dan Quayle, that was the end of your political career. How do you not know how to spell? And, you know, maybe it's a tricky spelling. You know, Maybe there are a lot of Americans who don't know where Qatar is on a map. I don't begrudge you. I don't begrudge you. But I do want the president of the United States, who's entering into memorandums of understanding, to understand at the most basic level where the countries are located.
29:42Ben Meiselas:Remember that. Remember where in debates, those were major issues also and major points of discussion. But here he is after saying that attacking Obama. Here he is saying Obama sold out Israel. Obama sold out Israel. Here, let's play this clip. Barack Hussein Obama sold out Israel for Iran. He went to Iran. He sold them out. how anybody can vote for this guy or the party, the Democrats, I call them, because they're dumb. They're dumb people. There's no internal consistency here as well, because let me see if we have, let me see if I have this clip right here. I'll show you after the break. But, you know, So you have Donald Trump, currently his approval in Israel went from plus 24 to net negative 24, basically overnight.
30:44And Donald Trump wouldn't show Israel the memorandum of understanding.
30:51Ben Meiselas:And Donald Trump in this press conference calls out Israel for their bombings in Beirut. which by the way, when Trump is saying those things, I agree with. I don't agree with all the other stuff he's saying, but when he was saying that Israel bombing, let me be very clear. Trump aided and abetted this in the first place. And I think when you listen to Trump's words, he then kind of says, and they weren't able to finish the job quickly. So to me, what Trump seemed more concerned about were the optics versus the genocide and that he would have been OK if Israel took care of it quickly, meaning done the genocide quicker as they have in Gaza, in Lebanon.
31:51But I do, you know, when Trump's out there not showing the MOU to Israel, I am like, good, why would you show them?
31:58Ben Meiselas:Why would you go into this catastrophic war with them, you know, in the first place? And when he at least called out Beirut, I said, you should have been saying that a very long time ago. I guess why I'm sharing this is that the coverage is complex because then Trump will do that. And then he seems over there. And this is where he's so discombobulated. And by the way, that was a term that Trump used when posting these weird AI images, discombobulated, because I think his head is discombobulated. It's just an interesting word to say. But then he attacked Obama for standing up to Israel, or at least that was the criticism was that Obama sold Israel out.
32:48And then Trump seems to, though, be doing an Obama template, but attacking. So none of what he's saying kind of makes any sense at all. And going back to where we started with this episode, at a very bare minimum, we need someone in the leadership position who could kind of comprehend what's happening, can kind of comprehend what's happening here. And Trump can't.
33:19Ben Meiselas:He's really deeply, deeply out of it. And so when we come back, I want to talk more about that. I want to share with you the memorandum of understanding that leaked where there is indeed$300 billion to Iran, all sanctions removed from Iran, from everybody, all removed from Iran. I want to talk about the reflecting pool. Jeremy, can we just show what it looks like? Do we have a photo of this reflecting pool? This is what it looks like now. So go back to the last one, and then we'll show you this one. This is foam floating on the surface because Trump workers dumped bottles of hydrogen peroxide in the Lincoln Memorial.
34:03Ben Meiselas:That's what they were doing. They were dumping bottles of hydrogen peroxide. And again, when you don't understand basic science, this is what you, as Dr. Michael O 'Brien says, y 'all, not to be like a huge nerd about the reflective of it all, but you'll need a minimum about 8 ,000 liters of 12 % hydrogen peroxide to reach the 50 parts per million concentration to kill algae. Is this what happens when you have zero scientists in your administration? They bring it like the pool guy. They're bringing like the pool guys in and the algae is just going to come back. The algae is just going to come back.
34:42Ben Meiselas:Even if you do the hydrogen, you're just going to, the reflecting pool is now going to be a hydrogen peroxide pool. I mean, it's the stupidest. It's the stupidest. I can't even, I can't even fathom what's happening to this country right now. We'll take our first quick break of the show. Can y 'all do me a favor? Can you subscribe to the Midas Touch on Audio? Wherever you get your audio podcasts, it really helps us when you subscribe on audio. Subscribe now. We'll be right back after our first quick break of the show. Thanks. Time for some talk. Life insurance talk that is. You probably have it, but do you know how much you're paying for it?
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40:21Ben Meiselas:You want to invade? Let's do it. Could we get the same deal also? That's kind of what Donald Trump looks like to the entire world right now. Let's talk more about what went down at this press conference or this conference with the emir of Qatar, as well as with the Amir of Abu Dhabi and the president of the UAE. Donald Trump was asked about, let's see this one. Donald Trump says that his relationship with Iran was fully normalized. We now have a fully normalized relationship. Let's play it. Get it done. Iran wants to get it done. They have to get back to business. and the relationship is now normalized.
41:11So I think it's going to go pretty quickly. Could go faster. He's also saying that right there with MBZ, leader of the United Arab Emirates, who in Trump's first term got to sign on to the Abraham Accords and the UAE was all in with Trump on trying to destroy Iran, do regime change in Iran, and believe that the U.S. was going to do that. And now, MBZ, who's looking at Trump right there, behind the scenes, was it last week? And this is where some of the writing was on the wall that there was going to be a deal with Iran. MBZ spoke directly with Foreign Minister Aragji of Iran And there was lots of reporting that the UAE was giving Iran billions of dollars.
42:06Now, the UAE denies that for what it's worth, but you can form opinions yourself if the UAE has released billions and billions of dollars. Also reports that Qatar did as well. And I think that MBZ, who you saw there, as well as the emir of Qatar, Al Thani, they both just said, you know what? We just can't rely on the United States in this region. I mean, obviously, the U.S. is still going to be a major power in the world just based on population and GDP and the markets and the post-World War II legacy. But I don't think that going forward, you're going to see any kind of similar view of these Middle East countries' perspectives on the United States.
42:55Ben Meiselas:And by the way, at the end of the day, that may be a good thing, right? I mean, should we have air bases in all of these countries and in their territory? It may actually be a good thing. Why do we need to be spending billions and trillions of dollars on a military industrial complex while American people are suffering? and you know now should we have gotten into an unlawful and catastrophic war in the first place to reach that conclusion you know do do i have confidence that the structure and framework of this deal is going to be durable i don't because it's not even a deal it's a memorandum of understanding and it's all over the place and and trump doesn't even know where he is he doesn't understand the complexities of, I truly doubt, and I talked about this on the podcast that I was doing with my brothers last night when we were live.
43:54I really don't think that Donald Trump's even read the agreement that he signed. I genuinely don't think that he's read the terms. Someone may have given him a summary of it, but I don't think he sat there with the terms and actually read it, thought about it, and truly knows what's in the deal. I think that's deeply, deeply problematic. And I hope though, and this is where I want to root for America,
44:24Ben Meiselas:that we can stop these never-ending wars. But with Trump, where's his mind going to go next? Invade Cuba, right? That's the next one, I'm sure. And we've already been talking about Cuba invasion, but I'm sure soon he'll be doing the Cuba invasion talk again and ramping up there. And he'll do more blowing up of boats off the coast of Venezuela and in the Pacific also, and engaged in more war crimes there. He can't help himself. And when you spend$1.5 trillion on a military budget, it kind of becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that you're going to be engaged in wars because you're going to spend the trillions that, and when you create, when you go from the Department of the Defense to the Department of War, or the DOD to the Department of War, you're saying that you're a warmonger, right?
45:18Going back to Trump with MBZ, you know, Donald Trump just says how rich he is. You're so rich. When you're rich, you get to talk a lot. That's what he says. Let's play it.
45:41I don't even know what's funny about that. Like, I don't want, who's laughing at these things? When you're that rich, you get to talk that long and then people laugh.
45:49Ben Meiselas:Who are the people laughing? What's funny about that? I just, I genuinely don't even get, it's like they, it's like they're speaking an entirely different, I don't want to say language. It's like it's this oligarch Furby speak. You know, they're rich, you get to talk a lot. What is funny about any of this? We're dealing with issues of war and peace. We're dealing with issues of life and death. We're dealing with war crimes and genocide. We're dealing with the American people suffering here. What's the funny? And again, I believe I have a sense of humor. I find things funny outside of, you know, when there's a place for humor and funny TV shows or movies or comedy series.
46:43Ben Meiselas:But I also don't find it funny when comedians punch down. I don't find it funny when you mock marginalized communities. It's not funny. That's just bullying. That's not humor. To me, humor is punching up and mocking power structures. To me, that's humor. You want to be witty and controversial? You make fun of people in power. but making fun of people who are bullied and who suffer already? Why is that funny? J.D. Vance was on state regime media. J.D. Vance has basically been the guy put out there to try to sell this deal to the American people. We know behind the scenes that J.D. Vance was the person pushing for the deal.
47:36And you had Rubio and Hegseth and the CIA director, John Ratcliffe,
47:41Ben Meiselas:all against it. And J.D. Vance is out there, but J.D. Vance is also lying about the deal. J.D. Vance is saying, oh, no, that's not in the terms. That's not there. Just a bunch of propaganda. That's not, okay, well then release the terms. Just let us see what's in it then. We won't have to speculate. But J.D. Vance is lying about what's in there because we know what's in there now. And I also though, and this is where I hold the complex thoughts, I'm also glad that in the regime, in the Trump regime, that J.D. Vance was the person who fought to get a deal. It doesn't mean I like J.D. Vance. Let me be very clear.
48:21Ben Meiselas:I think J.D. Vance is complicit in war crimes, in other crimes. I mean, I think he's a horrible person. I think he's changed personalities multiple times. I think that he's a fascist. I think he's a horrible person. But also, if he was helpful in getting this deal done, I'm glad that there was someone saying, we need to get the hell out. So I share that with you. Maybe you don't want to hear me say that. I don't like J.D. May. He's a liar. And again, this memorandum of understanding doesn't really create certainty, doesn't do anything. I think it's going to fall apart. I hope it doesn't though.
48:59Ben Meiselas:And so I'm glad that there's someone who was like, let's get out of there. But now J.D. Vance has become under attack by Hegsa and Ratcliffe and Rubio and Netanyahu and everybody like that. So here's what J.D. Vance says. We don't commit to doing anything as part of the deal. We win either way. Okay. Here, play what he But here's the option for Iran. If you learn the right lessons from this, and if you change the way that you react and respond to the United States, option one is we're going to change the way that we respond to you. We're going to have a better relationship. But if they choose option two, which is we're going to continue to try to pursue a nuclear weapon, then nothing that we we don't commit to doing anything as part of this deal.
49:47So the United States wins either way. What the president is trying to do is actually extend the hand of peace and say, if the Iranian people want greater prosperity, then their leadership has to step up and change their behavior. If they do great, if they don't, the United States has already gotten a lot from what we need. OK, first off, his eyeliner just looks absolutely crazy. I mean, the eyeliner just is like it's like next level. The guy is just wearing a massive amount of eyeliner. I mean, I'm not judging just wearing a huge amount of eyeliner I mean, it looks like I don't know
50:28Ben Meiselas:anyway, it looks like he wears a lot of eyeliner and what does that even mean? We win either way I don't know, what are you even talking about? We win either way We win? We win We didn't win, we lost the war We lost the war We should never have been in the war and we lost That's what happened. Tariffs are attacks on the American consumer. It's causing inflation. Let's just understand fundamental truths. Because again, if you try to break it down for me, and I think this is how the American people feel on a lot of issues, I think America understands we lost this war. Not everybody, but we did, obviously, when they said, here's what's going to happen and those things didn't happen.
51:15Ben Meiselas:But you have to understand, I don't immediately rush and go the$300 billion is pathetic and it's a sellout and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I actually want there to be peace in the Middle East. That's the hard part about Sometimes, you know, if you talk to me like an intelligent person and you explain to me and showed me with charts and graphs and data that$300 billion isn't an arbitrary number and that there are lots of businesses who actually think this is a good idea and that somehow this will flow to the benefit of the United States and result in cheaper gas prices. and will make things better and can maybe lead to diplomatic breakthroughs in other areas, like Russia's invasion of Ukraine since Iran provides Shahid drones to Russia?
52:15Ben Meiselas:And could there be a more comprehensive approach? And is investing$300 billion of private capital, does that have a net positive effect? I don't know because you're not talking to me like a grown up or like a human. You're just, I win, you win. And it's not 300 billion. It's not 300 billion. All right. Then it's clear to me that whatever you're doing is shady and is a lie and is bad. Because if it was good, stand on business. If you did this deal, if your name, Donald J. Trump is signed to this thing and your name, J.D. Vance is signed to this thing, then just did, we're going to read it eventually.
53:01Eventually, to use the expression that I've been saying, eventually the algae surfaces, right? You can paint it blue for a little bit, but eventually the algae surfaces. And then if you want to try to pour, you know, hydrogen peroxide or whatever on it, that's not going to solve the problem. It's not going to solve the problem if that's what you're going to do, right? It's a perfect metaphor for what's happening here. You know, if you want to deal with the reflecting pool and you can explain to us the issue,
53:33Ben Meiselas:ladies and gentlemen, let's talk about the real issue here. Former President Obama in 2012 made a decision, which I believe is the right decision, to say, you know what, we shouldn't be using the same water supply for drinking water, which is a scarce supply for the reflecting pool to fill that massive pool. It's a waste of water where there are water shortages. It could seriously impact people living in DC and other places that get their source of water. So Obama made the decision, and I think a smart one, that we're going to bring in the water from the Potomac Basin that has algae in it. And so that became the water source.
54:17Ben Meiselas:It was a darker paint on the bottom. It was, there was an algae issue that costed tens of millions of dollars to try to deal with. And Obama then struggled with the algae. I mean, it wasn't, let me be very clear. This was not one of the top 50 ,000 issues that Obama was focused on. And I quite literally mean that. When I say he struggled with it, it wasn't like he was posting about the reflecting pool or giving speeches about the reflecting pool or even talking about the reflecting pool. Okay. He had an interior secretary who handled certain things, and there were certain people who focused on D.C.
54:54Ben Meiselas:issues, but they tried to deal with it science-based, responsibly, figure out a solution. There was never really a good solution. Why? Just basic science. Reflecting pool, shallow water, humid, D.C.'s a swamp. right idea when the reflecting pool was built, reflecting on Washington and Lincoln right there. I get it. History, Martin Luther King's speech, civil rights movement, a lot there. But given the way DC is, the weather and such, maybe this was not the right move originally. That's a tough thing to say, but maybe we need to not do a reflecting pool. But we should maybe bring it to the American people.
55:43What do you think about this? Let's talk about that. That's a democracy, right?
55:48Ben Meiselas:What should we do with this? It's going to cost us potentially a billion dollars over the next 20 years to deal with the algae situation. Or we can close the reflecting pool, maybe make it like reflecting marble, and maybe we deal with it. Or we spend it. What do we want, right? Let me bring it to the chat. Let's do a democracy here, right? What would you do? If I told you the truth about the reflecting pool and explained to you the origins, first off, wouldn't you appreciate that I was just being honest with you about what the issue was? And we could vote and make a decision what's best. That's messy.
56:29Ben Meiselas:Some of you may be upset with the decisions that we make, but let's make the decision. What Trump did was paint it blue and say it was going to be great. And everybody was saying, but you're not dealing with the filtration. You're not dealing with the water source. The nanobubblers are not going to work the way you think it's going to work in order to get rid of the algae. Algae is microscopic. It's reproduction asexually, sexually. The way algae spreads, just microscopic algae, it will always come back. So in painting it blue, if anything, may make the situation worse. You may be creating a worse situation.
57:07go over to the Iran deal. The algae comes back. Donald Trump can say in 2018,
57:14Ben Meiselas:I'm going to get out of this Obama deal and I'm going to do a deal so much better. Or he can say, I'm going to pull out of the Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act and I'm going to do a better deal. And that sounds nice. The Affordable Care Act is messy. Premiums are still expensive. right? You have to rely on subsidies. It still is unpredictable sometimes. Sometimes you think, wow, I'm still not getting the best care. But we have to remember where were we before Obamacare when 25, 30 million Americans were uninsured and insurance companies could discriminate on the basis of preexisting conditions.
57:56Ben Meiselas:So the Affordable Care Act was messy. I believe we should have had universal healthcare. I want there to be universal healthcare. Right now I do. I want the government to pay for it. I want it to be free. I think healthcare is a human right. Obama, I think, wanted that. But in that time period, the best he could get was the Affordable Care Act. The best Obama could do was the JCPOA, which was still a strong template. And Donald Trump has run on painting it blue. I'll fix it. I'll do a better healthcare plan. And to Americans, that sounds great. Okay, what do you mean? Let's do it. Let's get a better healthcare plan.
58:35I'll do a better JCPOA. Okay, that's great. Let's do a better deal. Trump, I will expose the predator cabal in the Epstein files. I'll release it. The American people, that's great. Let's release it. Let's expose the cabal. Let's do it. I can fix all of these. Great, fix it, fix it. But then you got to do it. And doing it doesn't mean Obama's deal, Biden, auto pan up. No, you're the leader now. All right. Before we know it, we're going to be in 2027. Okay. We're going to be halfway through this God forsaken term. And you did this deal. You signed it. If you didn't want to do it or memorandum understand, then don't do it.
59:24but you signed a document. Your name is on the thing. So go and talk to us like grownups about it. And if you didn't like it, then don't do it, but stop with the nonsense and the baby behavior. No offense to babies. I'm telling you, you could convince me that$300 billion may make sense. I don't know. I'm not fully an expert. I don't know$150 billion,$500 billion.
59:49Ben Meiselas:I certainly don't want taxpayer dollars from the American people that should be going to our healthcare to fund this. I absolutely don't want that. But explain it to me. Can this be helpful in stopping the genocide in Palestine? Can this be helpful in rebuilding a Lebanon? Can this be helpful in doing a two-state solution? Could this be helpful in bringing stability to the region? I don't believe it's going to be because look how shady they are about it. And look how Trump lies about everything. But my whole point, though, is stand on business. Stand on it and talk to us and explain it. And I'm not saying this in like a sexist way or whatever.
1:00:37But like for Trump, because, you know, he pretends to be a man. Man up or person up or woman up or whatever, whatever the expression is, you know. But just let's go. Be a grown up. Be an adult. You know, when the court tells you you've got to take your name down from the Kennedy Center that you put up and vandalized, don't hide it behind drapes or by tarp. Come on. It's like a loser thing, man. Just take it down. Now everybody looks at this thing like, who the hell is this loser? Just take it down and grow up and let's just be adults. You know, as I say, you know, lots of people are like, oh, you know, you're anti-Trump.
1:01:17You're anti-Trump. You're anti-Trump. I'm anti this thing that's in the Oval Office that is so negatively impacting the American people. I am anti that. You know, he wasn't obligated. He wasn't forced, as so many people aren't, most people, to become a public servant, to serve the public, a servant, a public servant. But when you've used the position of public servant to cover up pedophile rings, to engage in catastrophic wars, to rip away people's health care, to send ICE and Border Patrol Gestapo, to round people up, torture people and kill them, to be an instrument and an aider and a better of genocide.
1:02:07When you do all of these things, you've stepped into the arena to do those things. And I'm anti the pain that's being inflicted on the American people that finds its main source in this guy, in this person who occupies, sadly, the Oval Office right now. And as I've said before, we have to have to get out of these cycles where when the next person takes over, that we're so tribal that all of a sudden you have this tsunami of MAGA and right wing talking points to blame all of the shit that Donald Trump has handed over onto the next person. We have to be constructive, honestly, as Americans, not as political tribal animals, like as Americans, as human beings, because this system is not a sustainable system right now.
1:03:12It is not. And we should look at models that are working. And we don't have to embrace all aspects of it, but we should look at what Mamdani is doing in Manhattan right now. We should look at it. It doesn't mean we have to take every aspect of it, but we should look at what he's doing there and seeing what's working. We should look at models and we should have, once again, laboratories of democracy versus laboratories of autocracy. And too frequently, that's what we're seeing states have become, laboratories of autocracy, where the most vile and villainous ideas, what get adopted is what gets adopted in D.C.
1:04:02to then inflict nationwide, and that found its home in Project 2025. So I'll leave you with this. Former Vice President Kamala Harris giving a speech today in Vienna.
1:04:13Ben Meiselas:And here's what she had to say on Iran. Let's watch former Vice President Kamala Harris. Let's play. Let's be clear about this. Thank you, Tim. Let's be clear about this. Whatever is being negotiated, this president is going to declare victory and will end up where we were after the JCPOA and call that a victory. the JCPOA that he withdrew from. The Obama nuclear agreement. One more clip of former Vice President Kamala Harris. Let's play it. But to be clear, if you were president, you never start this war. Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
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