WH Presser Turns to Mayhem After Epstein Bombshell

13 Nov 2025 · 22 min · 11 chapters

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The episode argues that a White House press conference about newly released Jeffrey Epstein-related documents is a cover-up, not transparency. It claims Caroline Leavitt said the administration cooperated with House Oversight Democrats, while the host alleges the files came from the Epstein estate and contain “incredibly damaging emails” linking Donald Trump to Epstein’s home and victims. Key claims include: Trump called the release a “hoax” and blamed Democrats for $1.5T; Levitt didn’t rule out a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell; emails “prove absolutely nothing” about Trump spending time with victims; and officials allegedly pressured Rep. Lauren Boebert not to sign a discharge petition. Notable examples cited: Virginia Giuffre name redaction; MRI/health questions; 50-year mortgage and SNAP funding disputes.

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Epstein Bombshell and Trump's Reaction

0:00 to 0:25

Discussion on the Epstein files and Trump's controversial remarks.

“You work hard to stay healthy and want the freedom to make the best decisions for yourself and your family.”

Epstein Bombshell and Trump's Reaction

1:01 to 3:51

Discussion on the Epstein files and Trump's controversial remarks.

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Press Conference Insights

3:51 to 6:30

Analyzing Caroline Levitt's statements during the press conference.

“A reporter then asks Caroline Leavitt if Donald Trump is considering a pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell.”

Questions Around Transparency

6:30 to 8:01

Debate over the Trump administration's definition of transparency.

“So a reporter says, so why are you doing that?”

Prince Andrew and Trump's Health

8:01 to 9:21

Discussion about Prince Andrew's potential testimony and Trump's health issues.

“I mean, these people gaslight and lie about everything.”

Trump's Policies and Economic Questions

11:43 to 14:01

Analysis of Trump's policies on mortgages and SNAP benefits.

“allow for a ballooning of interest or an increase of interest, like 95 % more or 85 % more interest would accrue.”

Debate on Federal Statistical Integrity

14:01 to 15:27

Discussion on the reliability of economic data amidst political blame.

“about inflation or jobs reports or anything going forward.”

Caroline Levitt's Economic Claims

15:28 to 17:21

Analysis of Caroline Levitt's assertions about the economy under Trump.

“The Democrats may have permanently damaged the federal statistical system with October CPI and jobs reports likely never being released.”

MAGA Mike Johnson's Press Conference

17:22 to 18:30

Critique of MAGA Mike Johnson's statements regarding the Epstein files.

“and he was like, remember those humiliation rituals he would do every morning?”

Response to Jack Schlossberg's Remarks

18:31 to 19:53

Discussion on the White House's response to Jack Schlossberg's comments.

“And these are incredibly, incredibly damaging emails.”
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Response to Jack Schlossberg's Remarks

20:15 to 21:29

Discussion on the White House's response to Jack Schlossberg's comments.

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1:53Ben Meiselas:and Epstein also referring to Donald Trump as being at Epstein's home on a number of occasions with a victim, and there were more damaging emails there as well. Also, Donald Trump continues to spiral this morning and into the afternoon. He's making posts about this, calling it a hoax and blaming the Democrats for costing the country$1.5 trillion. Let me break down everything that's going down here. First, let's go to the White House, where this disastrous press conference just concluded moments ago. So the chief propagandist for the White House, Caroline Levitt, said, we are cooperating at the White House with the release of these files.

2:31Ben Meiselas:And she says, that's why the files got released today, because we're being so transparent about it. No, Caroline, you're covering up the Epstein files. These documents were released from the Epstein estate and obtained by the Democrats on the House Oversight Committee, who went directly to the estate because Trump and MAGA Mike and the MAGA Republicans are covering up the Epstein files. Here play this clip. Mary, thank you. Two questions on this. In the interest of transparency, why not just go ahead and release the full files on Epstein, get this all over with? We have, this administration has done more with respect to transparency when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein than any administration ever.

3:09In fact, this administration, the Department of Justice, has turned over tens of thousands of documents to the American people. We are cooperating and showing support for the House Oversight Committee. That's part of the reason you are seeing these documents that were released today, because of the House Oversight Committees and Republicans' efforts to get these out to the public. This administration also moved, the Department of Justice also moved to unseal grand jury testimony, which we know, unfortunately, a judge declined those requests. So this administration has done more than any. And it just shows how this is truly a manufactured hoax by the Democrat Party for now they're talking about it all of a sudden because President Trump is.

3:51Ben Meiselas:A reporter then asks Caroline Leavitt if Donald Trump is considering a pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine Maxwell is currently preparing those paperworks with the help of the prison warden at the minimum security facility. She was moved into by the Trump regime against Bureau of Prison Rules. She's not allowed to be at this Camp Bryan in Texas because it's a minimum security facility and she's a convicted child sex trafficker. So she's not allowed to be there, but she's getting like five-star treatment. Caroline Levitt does not rule out a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell. Let's play this clip.

4:25Ben Meiselas:Steven, go ahead. As well, if the president is considering a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell. Again, he's answered this repeatedly. It's not something he's talking about or even thinking about at this moment in time. I can assure you of that. Steve. Next up, Caroline Levitt is asked if Donald Trump spent days or hours or just did Donald Trump hang out at Epstein's house a lot where there were victims present, where there were not victims present. Just setting aside the emails that were released today because y 'all claim everything is a hoax. What we just want to know was, did he hang out with Epstein and Epstein's house with victims present?

4:57Ben Meiselas:And then Caroline Levitt's like, the emails prove absolutely nothing. That wasn't the question, Caroline. Listen to the question. oh wait, if you answer it, you may be incriminating Donald Trump. Here, play this clip. Thanks for being here, Bev. Uh, Weijia. Thank you, Caroline. Sure. Um, I have your statement about the new Epstein emails that have been released by House Democrats. Separate from why you believe the emails were made public, can you address their substance? Did the president ever spend hours at Jeffrey Epstein's house with a victim? These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that President Trump did nothing wrong.

5:36And what President Trump has always said is that he was from Palm Beach and so was Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was a member at Mar-a-Lago until President Trump kicked him out because Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile and he was a creep. And this email you refer to with the name of a victim that was unredacted now and has since been reported on in this room. So I will go ahead and say it. Virginia Guffrey. And it was CBS's own reporting, Weja, that recently wrote that Miss Guffrey maintained, and God rest her soul, that she maintained that there was nothing inappropriate she ever witnessed, that President Trump was always extremely professional and friendly to her.

6:14And so I think it's a question worth asking the Democrat party, and you should all go ask them after this briefing, of why they chose to redact that name of a victim who has already publicly made statements about her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and is unfortunately no longer with us.

6:29Ben Meiselas:Next up, a reporter asked Caroline Levitt about Donald Trump summoning Lauren Boebert to the Oval Office to meet with Donald Trump in an emergency meeting to try to convince her, or some might say threaten her, to remove her name from the discharge petition, where Adelita Grijalva would have become the 218th person to sign that discharge petition, leading to the release of the Epstein files or a vote to be taken for the release of the Epstein files. So a reporter says, so why are you doing that? If you claim you're being transparent, why are you having people like Lauren Boebert show up and telling them to remove their name from the discharge petition to hide the Epstein files?

7:11Ben Meiselas:Watch this response right here. Play this clip. Government reopening because of Republicans and President Trump. But given your interest in transparency, Caroline, why are White House officials then meeting with Representative Boebert in an effort to try and get her to not sign this petition calling for the release of the files? Doesn't it show transparency that members of the Trump administration are willing to brief members of Congress whenever they please? Doesn't that show our level of transparency? Doesn't that show the level of transparency when we are willing to sit down with members of Congress and address their concerns?

7:42That is the that's a defining factor of transparency. Having discussions, having discussions with members of Congress about various issues. And I'm not going to detail conversations that took place in the situation room, in the press briefing room. Reagan.

7:55Ben Meiselas:No, Caroline, that does not show transparency. That quite literally shows a cover up. I mean, these people gaslight and lie about everything. And again, I don't care what political party you're from, even if you don't care about politics at all. You're watching what I'm watching and we're watching liars. We're watching right here a group of despicable human beings in the White House covering up for a child sex trafficking ring. We're seeing that play out in real time. That shouldn't be political. That should just be morality. And we're seeing that take place. Next up, a reporter asked Caroline Leavitt, do you, does Donald Trump think that Prince Andrew or formerly Prince Andrew should come and testify before Congress on the Epstein matter?

8:39Ben Meiselas:Here play this clip. Some Democratic members of Congress have invited Britain's former Prince Andrew to testify on the Epstein scandal. I was just wondering if President Trump thinks that former Prince Andrew should indeed come and testify to Congress on that. I haven't spoken to him about that specific matter, but I can ask him and get back to you. Another reporter says, can you give us more information about that MRI that Donald Trump took? What's going on there? Can we see the results? Of course you can't see the results. This is the Trump regime. They cover up everything. Caroline Levitt said, yeah, sure.

9:13Ben Meiselas:We told you about that, but just trust us. He's in the greatest health, as we've said. The MRIs showed that everything is perfect. Hey, Caroline, what part of the body was the MRI in? Was it in the head area? Was it in the chest area? Was it in the leg area? it's not normal to get MRIs during physicals, nor is it normal to have physicals every six months in this way where MRIs are needed. But anyway, go on, go ahead and lie, Caroline. Caroline, here play this clip. You recently said you'd check with President Trump about why you need to get an MRI on his recent trip to Walter Reed. Do you have any more detail on that?

9:52I do. And I'm glad you asked. As stated in the memo provided on October 10th, President Trump received advanced imaging at Walter Reed Medical Center as part of his routine physical examination. The full results were reviewed by attending radiologists and consultants and all agreed that President Trump remains in exceptional physical health, which I know all of you will see with your own eyes later this evening when he opens up his dinner to the press. And perhaps you will see him when he signs the bill to reopen the federal government. So stay tuned on plans for that. Thank you.

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12:12Ben Meiselas:And there's been some reporting that the White House is frustrated with Bill Pulte and the rollout of this proposal for a 50-year mortgage. Can you tell us if the White House is frustrated with that rollout and if the White House still supports the idea of a 50-year mortgage for Americans? This is a proposal that the president himself has commented on. I would defer you to the president's statements, and it's something that the administration is discussing and seriously looking into. Next up, Caroline Leavitt is asked why the Trump regime refused to tap into the contingency fund. to pay the SNAP benefits.

12:44Ben Meiselas:And Caroline Levitt said, we did tap into the contingency fund, but we didn't want to tap into the children's nutrition fund because that would have been an overreach to feed starving children. We think that that was judicial overreach. So that's why we did not do it. No, you didn't go into the contingency fund. Let's be clear. You were ordered to go into the contingency fund. You paid half. And then you refused to just make the payments generally and appealed to the Supreme Court and said that you refuse to pay. We play this clip of Caroline Levitt. Let's play it. In several hours, President Trump, the government is going to be reopened and SNAP recipients are going to receive their full benefits, which is what President Trump has always wanted to do.

13:26Stephen.

13:26Ben Meiselas:Why also did you need the judicial process for that? I mean, during the shutdown, didn't the administration have a responsibility to tap into any of those reserves to ensure that essentially - We did. We did tap into it. We did tap into the contingency fund. And then the judge told us, no, you have to get more money from a children's nutrition fund. And we felt that was judicial overreach. You shouldn't tell the president which fund he has to rob because the Democrats are holding the country hostage by shutting down the federal government. And then Caroline Levitt says, you know what? Also, we may no longer publish data about inflation or jobs reports or anything going forward.

14:08Ben Meiselas:And she says, the Democrats permanently damaged the federal statistical system. So we no longer can tell you what the inflation numbers are, what job loss numbers are, what GDP numbers are. You can't trust any of these numbers in the future. The Democrats, she says, broke the statistics. I don't know, Caroline. How about the fact that Donald Trump fired the former commissioner at the Bureau of Labor Statistics and then fired the data collectors and then changed the data aggregation of the info that goes into the CPI so that almost half of all of the data ingested regardless right now is just made up by the Trump regime versus the actual cost of products because we don't have people in the field gathering that data anymore?

14:56Ben Meiselas:So no, Caroline, I would say that it's you who broke this data because we've had government shutdowns before. We've had a lot of other presidents and a lot of other systems before and never have we had someone break the system. And isn't it kind of coincidental that y 'all break like every system? Maybe there's something to do with you and the fact that Donald Trump bankrupted everything essentially before he got into power, bankrupted this company, that company, bankrupted this casino, that casino. And he's kind of doing it again with these United States, but play the clip. Economists, investors and policymakers at the Federal Reserve to receive critical government data.

15:33The Democrats may have permanently damaged the federal statistical system with October CPI and jobs reports likely never being released. And all of that economic data released will be permanently impaired, leaving our policymakers at the Fed flying blind at a critical period.

15:50Ben Meiselas:Then Caroline Levitt says, the thing that you need to know is that Donald Trump's already made great progress in cleaning up the bad economy. The bad economy? Actually, the Wall Street Journal, The Economist said that we were having a Goldilocks economy, that America's economy was the envy of the world before Donald Trump took over. But here we are now. Here, play this clip. There's much work to do and this administration will continue to do it. But President Trump has already made great progress in cleaning up the economic disaster that was created by Joe Biden. But of course, Caroline Levitt lies about everything.

16:23Ben Meiselas:It's no different than North Korea's pink dress lady. Perhaps Caroline Levitt is even more absurd than pink dress lady that you see right there. And how's Donald Trump handling this all? Well, here's the post he made moments ago from his social media, very normal behavior from the president of the United States. I'm joking, of course. He goes, the Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein hoax again because they'll do anything at all to deflect on how badly they've done on the shutdown and so many other subjects, only a very bad or stupid Republican would fall into that trap. The Democrats cost our country$1.5 trillion with their recent antics, make some numbers, of viciously closing our country while at the same time putting many at risk.

17:06Ben Meiselas:And they should pay a fair price. There should be no deflections to Epstein or anything else. and any Republicans involved should be focused only on opening our country and fixing the massive damage caused by the Democrats. I mean, do y 'all remember though, back in the day when MAGA Mike Johnson, by back in the day, I mean, October 21st, when MAGA Mike Johnson held a press conference and he was like, remember those humiliation rituals he would do every morning? And he's like, and now the Democrats are saying that they're somehow going to be damaging info in the Epstein files. Remember when he said this?

17:37Ben Meiselas:Here play this clip. A leader, they don't have any identifiable set of policy solutions for the problems facing the American people. Their party continues to hit all-time historic lows in poll after poll after poll, and many of you have reported on that. These are objective facts. They're utterly lost as a party, and everybody can see it. So what are they doing? They see a shiny object, and they latch onto it. Democrats did not say one word about the Epstein files for the entire Biden presidency. They had all the files in the Biden DOJ. They didn't say a word about it. Four years, not a word. And suddenly now they somehow convince themselves that the Epstein files will be damaging to President Trump and Republicans in some way that they've imagined.

18:20And so they feign outrage.

18:22Ben Meiselas:Okay, Mega Mike. Well, the info we're getting right now, it's not even from the Epstein files because y 'all are covering that up. Imagine what's in those. We're getting these from the Epstein estate right now. And these are incredibly, incredibly damaging emails. I mean, Epstein talking about Trump being at the house, Epstein calling him a really dirty man. Epstein talking about the WPB West Palm Beach property, and they being the feds may have already talked to Donald Trump, calling Trump the dog that hasn't barked yet. Him and Michael Wolff on these emails talking about the dirt that Epstein may have on Donald Trump.

18:57Ben Meiselas:Not good, fellas. Not good. And you saw Mike Johnson's thing, right? Okay. Finally, you have Caroline Levitt right here. She's asked a funny question about Jack Schlossberger, Josh Schlossberg, who's running for Congress in New York. And just watch this. Funny way to end it. Play it. Mr. Mbamdami. My second question, Jack Schlossberg, the grandson of President Kennedy, announced today that he's running for Congress. He, in the recent past, has referred to his uncle, the HHS secretary, as, quote, a rabbit dog. And he has said that the Trump administration is the most corrupt in American history.

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