World Leaders Make Major Moves as Trump Risks Leaving America Behind

30 Aug 2026 · 26 min · 14 chapters

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The episode argues that Trump’s weakening of post–WWII alliances is being outflanked by China-led regional blocs, with Iran not isolated but integrating via major summits (Shanghai Cooperation Organization Aug 31–Sep 1 in Bishkek; BRICS Sep 12–13 in New Delhi). It also claims the U.S. is escalating pressure on Iran while other countries reject unilateral sanctions, and it criticizes a Trump Venezuela oil “deal” as infrastructure- and constitution-problematic.

Guests

No specific guests are named as interviewees in the transcript. It references quoted officials and an interview with former U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice, plus comments attributed to the U.S. UN ambassador Waltz.

Key claims

Russia will push billions toward Iran’s nuclear programs at SCO; Iran’s president and officials will speak. Pakistan seeks a $10B U.S. currency stabilization facility and rejected U.S. Iran sanctions. Modi is “zigzagging” to diversify partners after Trump tariffs.

Notable examples

Russia–Iran nuclear investment (Lavrov); UAE’s Abraham Accords regret; India–France AI/governance trade doubling; Mecca Pact (Pakistan–Saudi–Turkey) and possible expansion; Susan Rice’s critique of U.S. deterrence credibility.

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Chapters

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Global Shifts in Power Dynamics

0:00 to 0:45

Explore how world leaders are maneuvering to outpace Donald Trump in foreign affairs.

“alliances throughout the world like NATO.”

Shanghai Cooperation Organization Insights

0:45 to 1:30

Understand the significance of the upcoming Shanghai Cooperation Organization meeting.

“And already Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, has stated that a major agenda item will be expediting billions of dollars in investment to Iran's nuclear programs.”

BRICS and Pakistan's Financial Requests

1:30 to 2:35

Learn about the implications of Pakistan's major financial request from the US and its relationship with BRICS.

“It will be presided over by Modi, the leader of India, who's been making deals all across the world as the Trump regime initially attacked India in favor of Pakistan.”

Rejection of US Sanctions by BRICS

2:35 to 3:47

Discover how BRICS nations are responding to US sanctions and their cooperation plans.

“I mean, If you think about the BRICS nations, for example, I mean, you're talking about countries like Brazil, China, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, United Arab Emirates.”

Trump's Venezuela Oil Controversy

3:47 to 5:27

Delve into Trump's dealings in Venezuela and the complexities of oil extraction there.

“the new BRICS forum that will be taking place starting September 12th through the 13th.”

India's Global Diplomatic Moves

5:27 to 6:44

Examine Prime Minister Modi's rapid diplomatic engagements and their global impact.

“I've been doing lots of videos raising the red flags.”

International Trade Agreements by India

6:44 to 7:57

Learn about India's recent trade agreements and partnerships with various countries.

“Last night, the New York Times did a very good report on this.”

Iran's Regional Alliances and Agreements

7:57 to 9:23

Understand Iran's position in new regional alliances and its implications for the Middle East.

“You had your allies and you threw it all away, Donald.”

The Mecca Pact and Regional Dynamics

9:23 to 10:45

Explore the formation of the Mecca Pact and its potential regional implications.

“Donald Trump treated the students of India in the United States like absolute crap.”

Iran's Position in a Changing World Order

10:45 to 12:00

Assess Iran's evolving role and the perception of its isolation under Trump's administration.

“Modi and Norway's Prime Minister Jonas Garstor reaffirmed Norway's commitment to creating one million jobs in India under an agreement India signed October with the European Free Trade Association.”
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Impact of US Actions on Global Relations

12:00 to 14:03

Investigate how US foreign policy under Trump is affecting global alliances and conflicts.

“military bases were destroyed by Iran, as the U.S.”

Iran's Regional Alliances and U.S. Influence

14:03 to 16:51

Discusses Iran's regional alliances and the implications for U.S. foreign policy under Trump.

“there was rumors, by the way, that Iran may join one of these regional alliances.”

The Impact of U.S. Military Strategies on Global Perception

16:51 to 19:33

Explores how U.S. military actions affect international perceptions and deterrence.

“There are over a thousand people dying per day.”

Ambassador Rice's Insights on U.S. Power

19:33 to 20:55

Contrasts views on U.S. strategies from different ambassadors, highlighting inconsistencies.

“described in terms of the execution of this conflict, this war, and our inability to achieve any of the varying objectives that have been stated.”
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0:00Ben Meiselas:World leaders are easily outflanking Donald Trump, and in the next few weeks, there are going to be some major meetings of world organizations that are rising in power as Donald Trump attacked the architecture of the post-World War II era that the United States created and weakened U.S. alliances throughout the world like NATO. Pay very close attention to what will be happening in the next few days at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization meeting. It takes place August 31st through September 1st in Beshek, Kyrgyzstan. This is an organization led by China, but we expect to see Iran have a very prominent role.

0:44Ben Meiselas:Russia is going to be there. And already Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, has stated that a major agenda item will be expediting billions of dollars in investment to Iran's nuclear programs. That is in addition to the Bushir facility in Iran that is a joint venture between Iran and Russia, additional investment in nuclear facilities there. And we should expect Iran's President Pazeshki and other top Iranian officials to be speaking at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Then a week or two later, there will be the big BRICS meeting that will be taking place in New Delhi, India. It will be presided over by Modi, the leader of India, who's been making deals all across the world as the Trump regime initially attacked India in favor of Pakistan.

1:45Ben Meiselas:and what's fascinating too is if you look at what's going on with Pakistan right now, Pakistan is formally requesting a$10 billion currency stabilization facility from the U.S. Treasury, aka a bailout, the largest such ask in the country's history. And they said, look, you liked our work as a mediator. You want a more close relationship with Pakistan? Pay up, U.S. pay up, Besant. The request follows Pakistan's elevated role in mediating the U.S.-Iran conflict. But what's notable as well is that Pakistan rejected U.S. unilateral sanctions on Iran, the economic D-Day sanctions that Treasury Secretary Besant said, we will go after any country that does business with Iran.

2:31Ben Meiselas:Pakistan and all these other countries were like, yeah, we are not going along with your threats. We're just going to ignore it. I mean, If you think about the BRICS nations, for example, I mean, you're talking about countries like Brazil, China, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, United Arab Emirates. BRICS partner countries also include Belarus, Cuba, Bolivia, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Thailand, Uganda, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam. and BRICS cooperation includes things like climate change is what they say, food and energy security, international economic and financial situations, telecommunication links.

3:18Ben Meiselas:And so all of these countries also have rejected the US demands that they don't do business with Iran. There's one little asterisk I should put in there and it's kind of awkward for them. The United Arab Emirates previously did the Abraham Accords during the first Trump term, the first Trump regime, although now I think they're regretting that, bringing them closer to the Netanyahu regime as it has put a bigger target on the UAE in the region with those Iranian strikes that we've been seeing. the new BRICS forum that will be taking place starting September 12th through the 13th. The theme is called Building for Resilience, Innovation, Cooperation, and Sustainability, reflecting India Prime Minister Modi's vision of what he says is a people-centric approach rooted in the spirit of humanity first.

4:20Ben Meiselas:It's one gigantic troll to the United States. You get that, As Donald Trump is out there literally stealing hypothetical barrels of oil from Venezuela. And I say hypothetical because those 65 billion barrels of provable oil that's in the reserves in Venezuela. Well, I mean, it's sour, sticky, viscous, dense type of crude. You'd have to build all these refinery infrastructures. I think the$65 billion number overstates it. And also, we don't really know what the Trump deal is in Venezuela anyway. It just seems like a market manipulation scheme. And you'll have to build the infrastructure, which private businesses are involved, because no U.S.

5:08Ben Meiselas:businesses really want to get involved. The Trump regime is creating like a U.S. government joint venture with Venezuela, which you also need congressional authority for here in the United States. It's also against Venezuela's constitution, but you want to talk about socialism and communism for oligarchs, you're creating a US-run oil company because private companies have deemed Venezuela uninvestable. I've been doing lots of videos raising the red flags. I hope you've been watching them about this Venezuela deal that Donald Trump says, the biggest deal ever. Let's be very clear. The existence of oil underneath Venezuela is different than actual production.

5:45Ben Meiselas:It's different than the refining. It's different than actually turning the, you have to get the crude then you have to refine the crude and we're nowhere near any of that so that's years potentially decades away um if that's even going to occur here um but the point i'm making is while donald trump's doing that engaging in war crimes in the western hemisphere um blowing up fishing boats this is what's going on with bricks this is what's going on with the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and far from Iran being isolated and Iran is about to surrender and no one wants to talk to them. What are you talking about?

6:24Ben Meiselas:They're going to be at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization meeting in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan on August 31st, September 1st. And then they're going to be at the BRICS Summit September 12th through 13th. It should be noted as well some of the moves that Prime Minister Modi has been making. Last night, the New York Times did a very good report on this. France, New Zealand, Malaysia, Slovakia, Italy, I mean, the EU, the mother of all deals with Ursula von der Leyen and the EU. In the past year, Prime Minister Modi of India has zigzagged around the world at a breathless pace, New York Times writes, pursuing new partners or bolstering ties with existing ones, jolted into action by a grim reality.

7:14Ben Meiselas:India's only way to combat the global turbulence unleashed by Trump and fortify its economy is to spread its bets widely. And we're seeing Canada, we're seeing the EU, we're seeing countries in Asia making the same bet. They used to think we're partners with the US, or allies with the US. Not anymore. I mean, Donald Trump's out there being a Kim Jong-un bootlicker. Donald Trump's out there being a Xi Jinping bootlicker. Donald Trump's out there being a Putin bootlicker. Donald, you're not invited to the party. You're not invited to BRICS. You're not invited to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

7:54Ben Meiselas:You're not invited to these planes. You're not invited. You had your allies and you threw it all away, Donald. You threw it all away. take a look right here. Since August 2025, Modi has paid official visits to at least 20 countries and is set to visit more in the coming days, including a trip to Uzbekistan that starts Saturday. Then he's going to visit Kyrgyzstan. Then he's going to go back to India, where they're going to have the New Delhi Summit for BRICS, which he's going to be prepared for. Then you're going to see Xi Jinping after going to Kyrgyzstan. He's going to go to Egypt for a major visit there.

8:38Ben Meiselas:China and Egypt have been doing joint military tests together. So China's out there testing its new planes in the Middle East as well. And so you have all of that going on. We want to build better ties with the rest of the world as the size of our economy grows, says Priyam Gandhi Modi, and executive director of the future economic director of the future economic cooperation council. Many so-called middle powers, countries like France and Canada have been kneecapped by the same forces India faces, making them more amenable to Mr. Modi's overtures. Some are seeking him out to meet their own strategic needs.

9:18Ben Meiselas:India's recalibrated approach to foreign policy made its debut about a year ago following Trump doing 25 % tariffs against India. And it wasn't just that. It was 25 % tariffs. Donald Trump treated the students of India in the United States like absolute crap. And it became a major issue for the people in India that their family members and loved ones were being targeted here by Donald Trump. And also Trump made it very clear that he was choosing sides. And he picked Pakistan because Pakistan said that he should get a Nobel Peace Prize and credited him for ending the war that was taking place between India and Pakistan.

9:58Ben Meiselas:India said, you didn't end the war. You had nothing to do with it. And Trump said, well, Pakistan is investing in world liberty financial crypto. They're saying Trump should get a Nobel Peace Prize. And so that opened the door, which Trump met with Field Marshal Munir of Pakistan, and Trump got along with them and said, see you later, Modi. And Trump kind of immediately kind of changed the balance of where the US had previously been. So what did Modi do? Since December, Modi visited 18 countries and 13 countries visited India. Many meetings produced actual agreements. Get this, real deals. India and France developed an especially close partnership centered on artificial intelligence and governance, doubling bilateral trade in the next five years.

10:47Ben Meiselas:Modi and Norway's Prime Minister Jonas Garstor reaffirmed Norway's commitment to creating one million jobs in India under an agreement India signed October with the European Free Trade Association. President Lee of South Korea promised investment in India and shipbuilding assistance. India aims to become one of the world's top five shipbuilders by 2047. Modi became the first Indian prime minister to visit New Zealand in four decades, focusing on maritime security, building defense cooperation agreements, and doubling bilateral trade. And India signed a major free trade agreement with the European Union, the world's largest economic bloc in January.

11:29Ben Meiselas:Roughly two decades of trade negotiations had been sped up by the newly upended world order. And you'll recall that Ursula von der Leyen, the EU leader, said that this was the mother of all trade deals between the EU and India. Meanwhile, you have Iran's top civilian leader, the head of their parliament and someone who was their lead negotiator, M.B. Galiboff, is also applauding the new security arrangements in the Middle East as the U.S. military bases were destroyed by Iran, as the U.S. is retreating with the Abraham Lincoln, which didn't have the basic necessities for our service members and Marines to even be able to live aboard these ships.

12:13Ben Meiselas:Galibov says, security based on extra regional powers is fragile and dependent, while security built on the will and cooperation of Muslim nations can be sustainable, dignified, and lasting. New regional agreements signal a new era in which neighboring Muslim countries will rely on their own capabilities and choose cooperation and brotherhood over destructive rivalries. He's referring to the Mecca Pact, the new regional alliance with Article 5 like NATO guarantees in theory, between Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey. By the way, that has the Netanyahu regime very worried that other nations are going to join.

13:03Ben Meiselas:Netanyahu particularly worried about the rise of Turkey in the region, a growing Turkey alliance with Syria. Recall, we saw the Netanyahu regime strike a airport in Syria that was allegedly being built in cooperation with Turkey because Netanyahu said, we don't want to see Syria grow into a flourishing country with the help of Turkey at all. And the way they describe it in the Netanyahu regime is we want to just make sure the status quo remains the same. And Syria's new president, Al-Shar was like, we want to grow as a country? Like, why are you blowing up our air bases? But I would not be shocked from what we hear if Egypt eventually joins the Mecca Pact, if Syria joins the Mecca Pact, and if other nations join the Mecca Pact as well.

13:59Ben Meiselas:Ghalibov explains that these are the regional agreements that, there was rumors, by the way, that Iran may join one of these regional alliances. is Qatar's prime minister and foreign minister, Alfani, had a meeting and call with foreign minister Aragji, or actually traveled to Tehran and met in person with Aragji to discuss the current status of, I guess, Donald Trump pretending that the United States controls the Strait of Hormuz and other deranged behavior by the Trump regime. And so you have, again, this rapidly changing world order. And you'll see, Iran's not, I mean, Donald Trump's acting like Iran's completely isolated.

14:42Ben Meiselas:I mean, they're not. I mean, yes, you had CIA Director John Ratcliffe take this trip to Russia. What happened the next day? Russia launched ballistic missile strikes against Ukraine at a significant level. We also saw a strike near Romania of a boat by Romania, a tanker that we believe Russia hit, that we think that Romania and NATO and others are kind of covering up because it should trigger at least Article 4 consultation of NATO, but more like Article 5. And I think NATO realizes that Article 4 and Article 5 is dead under the Trump regime. So if they invoke it, Trump's not going to abide by it.

15:27Ben Meiselas:So even though it seems that Russia struck a tanker by Romania in Romanian waters, which would be clearly Article 4, Article 5 territory, no one's invoking it. And that's why we talk about that here. And Russia's saying, we're going to go put billions of dollars to build nuclear facilities with Iran. And they've said, we're going to talk about that at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. We're going to talk about that at BRICS. China's not hiding that they're allied with Iran. It's all out there. It's all out there. So here is what the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Waltz, had to say.

16:03Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. But it did shine a light on Russia's relationship with Iran and the potential for a nuclear deal between the two. Now, do you think Vladimir Putin knows better than to try and undermine President Trump's strategy there in the Middle East? Well, look, I mean, you know, I just outlined what our what President Trump, Scott Bessent, Marco Rubio, what all of our messages. You need to stop supporting this genocidal regime. And we know Iran has provided Russia drones that they're using to hit Ukraine. Russia has provided Iran with certain technology and economic support. And it needs to stop.

16:41So I don't want to speak for Director Radcliffe. I'm glad he went over to deliver a very direct message from the president. But the other piece, Laura, as the president has repeatedly said, this war has to stop in Ukraine. There are over a thousand people dying per day. And there are constant, constant threats of it spilling over into NATO countries or elsewhere that would drag in the United States in a way that nobody wants. So, look, it has to stop. That's right. Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, the president, have put a plan on the table, and we need everybody to get on board.

17:20Ben Meiselas:More from him right here. Let's play this clip. But the message that Secretary Bessett will send and that I will send here at the UN is, you're either against us or you're with us, and you don't want to be siding with Iran right now. And oh, by the way, that's not just a US message. There have been dozens of UN Security Council resolutions saying Iran cannot have a nuke, cannot have ballistic missiles to terrorize the world, and that we actually had last year snapback sanctions for where the rest of the world got back on board with our sanction regime. Final point, you can put sanctions in place, but you have to actually enforce them.

17:59And that's the next part of the message. You have all of these institutions and banks and shell companies that, frankly, even some of our friends have turned a blind eye on, no more, let's crack down, let's cut these economic lifelines, let's create, as President Trump envisions, a world where our children aren't terrorized by a genocidal Islamic regime with nuclear weapons.

18:24Ben Meiselas:You know, and then I had the opportunity to interview the former United States Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, and Ambassador Rice spoke to me. I just want to contrast those two clips I just shared with you there of Walls with Ambassador Rice. So I showed you Walt and this is Ambassador Rice. Let's play this clip. Well, rhetoric aside and memes aside, and I don't dispute that they are childish and grotesque, often laughable and make him look like a laughingstock, sadly, which is very detrimental because, as you mentioned, he is our commander in chief. But I also think you have to add to that the repeated extraordinary threats of inflicting World War II style catastrophic damage on Iran only to walk them back and rinse and repeat.

19:21I mean the bluster, the threats, the lies of course, they're all horrible and they all serve to undermine the perception and the reality of American power globally. So when you take the failures that I described in terms of the execution of this conflict, this war, and our inability to achieve any of the varying objectives that have been stated. The world is looking at this and seeing the United States and Israel throwing the military kitchen sink at Iran and failing. And if you're in China or Russia, sadly, they may look at that and see themselves as strengthened and embolden and question our willingness and ability to use force when necessary, when it directly serves our national interests or the national defense in the Asia theater or the European theater.

20:15So it's more than the lies and the bluster and the memes and the threats. It's the real perception of a weakened American deterrence and calling into question the credibility of our military power. This is a case, sadly, when the threat of the use of force had proven more effective than the actual use of force. And the ramifications of that, I think, we will be living with for quite a while.

20:49Ben Meiselas:Yeah, and Ambassador Rice was the ambassador under former President Obama. All right, we'll keep you posted every step of the way. I hope that gives you broader context of what's happening in the world. We need this international perspective. It's vital. Go and subscribe to this YouTube channel if you can. I hope you'll subscribe to this channel. Let's keep it growing. And get your copy of WTF America also. That's the book that comes out October 20th that I wrote with my brothers. Thanks everybody for watching. We appreciate you. Breaking news right now. My brothers and I wrote a book. It's called WTF America.

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