Yikes! Trump’s Health Crashes as Doctors Can't Hide It!!!

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2:23Ben Meiselas:International headlines reflected it as well. Trump cognitive decline continues as experts highlight new signs of trouble. NBC viewers embarrassed as Donald Trump brags about his cognitive test results. International Business Times. Clown Donald Trump mocked for claiming cognitive test is challenging when the average 10-year-old would ace it, reads the International Business Times. I'll show you what Donald Trump was posting earlier this morning as well. He wrote, Rosie O'Donnell, we wah wah or something. We lost, we lost. I don't know what the guy's writing here. Nobody realized, this is an official post from Trump's account.

3:06Ben Meiselas:So after he was posting Photoshopped images of former President Barack Obama and former First Lady Michelle Obama with their Photoshop faces on apes, he was posting this. Nobody realized that the crooked Democrat politicians of the Unselect Committee of political thugs plus two Republicans were worse than Democrats. Wacky Liz Cheney. She's becoming like Rosie O'Donnell, the wheelas who is currently residing in Ireland in order to escape her Trump derangement syndrome and crying Adam Kinzinger. Very strange behavior. Going back to that article about some of the experts, you had Caroline Aldwin, an aging researcher at Oregon State University, says that she's seeing even more fresh signs of decline from Donald Trump that she may not have even noticed before.

3:56Ben Meiselas:Part of the decline is part of an already clear problem that Trump has severe language problems. And she added, he can't complete sentences. He wanders off topic. He gets very confused. He clearly has difficulties. How severe those are can really only be established by testing. And that's why he appears to be continuing to take these cognitive exams over and over again. I want to point this out as well, because we saw lots of additionally alarming behavior by Donald Trump when it comes to the cognitive and physical this week. He said that he avoids sleeping on planes because he likes to look out the windows to watch out for the missiles and the enemies.

4:36Ben Meiselas:Here's what he says. Play this clip. I don't have to sleep. I've been on a plane sleeping for 20, I mean, I'm sleeping the plane. I don't sleep on planes. I don't like sleeping on planes, you know? I like looking out the window watching for missiles and enemies, actually. And then in that interview with NBC, he started talking about ICE and how ICE murdered two American citizens, though he didn't talk about it that way. He said it was bad publicity, and that's what made him most upset, that it was bad PR. And then the host said, yeah, but it was two Americans who died. And then Donald Trump responded to the host saying, two Americans died.

5:18Ben Meiselas:What do you mean that it's bad PR? Trump said, we have the smallest trucks and we've been very tough on waters. And then the host says, the waters? What are you talking about? Here, play this clip right here. It's bad. I hate it. I hate even talking about it. two people out of tens of thousands okay and you get bad publicity nobody talks about all of the murderers that were taken out of our country they don't talk about but it was two they don't talk about we have the smallest trucks as an example we've been very tough on the waters and soon you know pretty much overall but if you look at if you look at the waters where we knock out boats And then Donald Trump kept on telling the reporter about, I do cognitive tests.

6:07Ben Meiselas:I do the cognitive tests. Here, play this clip. I feel great. I mean, physically and mentally, I feel like I did 50 years ago. It's crazy. Now, there'll be a time when I won't be able to give you that answer. But that time hasn't come. You know, I do. I think it's very important. I've done more physicals. I take physicals just to give the report out. I take cognitive physicals. So I do a cognitive mind test. Okay. And a lot of people wouldn't be able to do very well. Not easy. You know, you get to those last questions. I've aced, I've done three of them. No other president has agreed to do them.

6:43Ben Meiselas:I do them because I have no problem with it because I'm a hundred percent. I think it's also notable too. I mean, we know that Donald Trump wants to put his name on everything, but it's also the pace at which he's putting his name on everything and the fear that people are saying that when he's gone, his name won't be out there. I mean, do they know something that we don't know? I'll show you. You had that guy, Scott Jennings, who's one of Donald Trump's top propagandists, who was saying, of course, Donald Trump should be able to shake down senators and withhold funding for critical infrastructure projects and states unless they name airports and train stations after Donald Trump, because when Donald Trump's gone, he can't trust them that they're going to put his name on these things.

7:32Ben Meiselas:This is actually what Donald Trump has his sycophants out there telling people. Here, let's just play this clip. You could not possibly trust, if you were Donald Trump, knowing everything you've been through, you could not possibly trust a posterity, somebody doing you right, knowing full well, They're going to do you dirty. He's got to do it now. I can't believe this is real.

7:55Ben Terris:Honestly, I thought this was a judge.

7:59Ben Meiselas:What's wrong with him demanding certain things

8:02Ben Terris:in exchange for naming it after him?

8:04Ben Meiselas:You don't think that that's kind of bonkers? I'm just telling you, if left to history and posterity, someone will always do this man dirty. He's got to take care of himself. Is that not a reflection of his presidency? His reputation and legacy being left. If left to people like Dan, he would never get anything. So the people who come after, generations like mine, if he leaves a poor reflection, if he leaves a poor legacy, that's his own doing. Yes. That's the thing. But you would never give a fair... Like, if you were in Congress, you're in for Congress. Don't get a participation.

8:36Ben Terris:No, go to a state he won. You don't get a participation trophy. And name something there. For being president of the United States. He's a two-term president. Hold on a second.

8:42Ben Meiselas:He's going to get something. Presidents leave legacies. He deserves something. He's got a nice jet for his library. Whether or not people will want to honor them.

8:50Ben Terris:If you're seeming to acknowledge that people will not want to honor Donald Trump when he leaves the presidency, and if that is the case. And that says more about him. I'm acknowledging reality. People crap on him while he's alive. What do you think they're going to do to him when he's dead? So here's the thing. Well, it could be - They would never allow this. It could be, let me tell you something.

9:05Ben Meiselas:Yeah, and so he wants to name Dulles Airport, Trump Dulles Airport. He wants to name Penn Station, Trump Penn Station. Very strange behavior right there. I want to bring in this interview I just did with Ben Terrace. Ben Terrace, of course, is the reporter over at New York Magazine who wrote that incredible expose on Trump's health. He met with Trump. He met with the people in the Oval Office. And he gives me some incredible insights. I just interviewed him earlier. Let me bring in that interview that I did here. Play this interview. I just did this with Ben. It's great. I want to bring in Ben Terrace, reporter from New York Magazine, the author of The Superhuman President, A Good Faith Attempt to Ascertain the Truth About Donald Trump's Health.

9:48Ben Meiselas:I'm sure you all read this article by now. We covered it here on the Midas Touch Network. Ben was granted access into the White House, where the focus of the interview was on Donald Trump's health. But as I pulled back from the interview, Ben, it was also to me a story about the health of the presidency in general. It's Donald Trump's approval is tanking. And the same way he tries to project that his health is great and everything's amazing when we see the bruises on his hands and the incoherent speech, he does the same thing with the economy. $18 trillion and everything's amazing and this is the greatest thing ever.

10:23Ben Meiselas:And the people aren't buying it anymore. So I want to tie it all together. But why don't we just start, though, with the health aspect of it, which I've always been saying on the Midas Touch podcast that this should be one of the biggest stories as with the Epstein files, as with other things that are finally coming into focus. But it seems with Trump's health, it's so obvious. It is so bad what we're seeing physically with the way his body looks, the way he's talking, you know, yet to me, it doesn't get the anywhere near the attention that we've seen in other situations. So talk to us though, about, you know, why you think this is a big deal though, why it was important for you to cover and why you think people should care about this.

11:07Ben Terris:Yeah, well, thanks for having me on. Honestly, it's a big story because it has to be a big story. This is an almost 80-year-old man who's leading this country. We've seen with our own eyes plenty of signs that he's not, as he says, the healthiest man alive. The bruising you mentioned, swollen cankles, seeming to nod off in meetings, you know, bandages on the back of his hands. You know, it's important to make sure on a regular basis that the person in charge, the most powerful man in the entire world, to make sure that he's doing well, both cognitively and physically. And so when I set out to write this story in December, the question was, is he okay?

11:48Ben Terris:It's very hard to get to the bottom of that. And like you said, here's a man who for a long time has been able to tell people, don't believe what you're seeing with your own eyes. And with his health and with other issues, people are seeing such signs of, I don't know, distress. I mean, you look at what happened in Minneapolis. You know, he talks about how immigration is going perfectly smoothly, and clearly it's not. He's sort of losing control of his own personal narrative here. And I think that the health is a very good example of that, where he really, truly wants you to believe that he's superhuman.

12:24Ben Terris:He's sending out all of his men to tell me that he's superhuman. He's going on television himself to talk about it. And we just see with our own eyes that, you know, he may be struggling in ways that he's not ready to admit.

12:35Ben Meiselas:Right. And as with the well-being of our country, the explanations about the well-being of himself are so utterly absurd that maybe that's the reason that he gets away with it because the mind doesn't even process the words because it's so absurd. So the reaction is just to reject it and say, I'm just going to focus on just something else. Because, you know, he'll say, you know, the bruising and the discoloration, handshakes. Well, what about on the other hand? Oh, well, I hit a table. You know, it goes from an MRI to a CT scan to it's just of the abdominal area. And you speak to anyone in the medical profession, they're like, we have no preventative abdominal MRIs or even CT scans.

13:23Ben Meiselas:What are you talking about? They go, we released the medical reports and the records. And it's like, that's not a medical report. It's your doctors saying that you're a good golfer and saying that you weigh like 218 and you're 6 '4". You aren't that. And over, and then the bragging about, I took the cognitive exam. It's a cognitive exam. Another cognitive. It's like, why are you talking? You observed it in person. We see it on TV and you described how these these doctors around him are like, yes, sir. You're doing amazing, sir. Like the whole thing is we is weird. Like it's some weird stuff, man.

14:02Ben Terris:Yeah, it was a very strange experience. I went to the Oval Office for this for this story, expected just to be talking to President Trump. In fact, when I started reporting the story, I didn't expect to talk to him at all. I didn't think he'd want to speak to me, but he made it known to his people that he wanted to defend his, you know, the record of his health. And when I got to the Oval Office, there were two men that were standing next to a Christmas tree. This is late December. And they were holding pieces of paper that on top said, talking points. I'm not sure I was supposed to see that, but it's my job to see things like that.

14:31Ben Terris:And these turned out to be his doctors from Walter Reed. And the whole experience is very surreal, right? Because you'd like to believe if you're talking to two doctors from Walter Reed, whose responsibility is to look after the president, that they'll tell it to you straight. But if you're holding talking points, if you're saying things like they said to me about how Donald Trump is healthier than President Barack Obama was when he was in the White House, it's just hard to believe. And so am I able to get to the bottom of exactly how healthy or unhealthy Donald Trump is in my article? No, it's impossible to know.

15:05Ben Terris:He knows, or maybe he knows, his doctors know, but nobody is necessarily going to be able to tell me the honest truth because their job in this moment is not to tell the truth necessarily. It's to say the things that Donald Trump wants them to say. Were they lying to me? I don't know. But they certainly had the President of the United States looking across the Resolute desk at them when I was asking questions of them about his health, and they were answering for both of us. And so I kind of left this experience, you know, not perfectly sure about how Donald Trump's health is, But I did have a pretty good window into the health of the presidency, to how Donald Trump operates, to how he gets people around him to say what he wants them to say.

15:45Ben Terris:This kind of control he's able to maintain over his inner circle and kind of the lack of control he has in being able to convince people out in the broader public that, you know, things are as he wants them to be.

15:57Ben Meiselas:Right. Let's get into that. because this is how we'll do it. On the periphery of your story, you have these vignettes, like Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who told you or you learn through the reporting, he puts towels or blankets over his head when he's sleeping, you know, on Air Force One or when he's around Trump because sleeping at night when people sleep, he says would be viewed as a sign of weakness, essentially. So he hides that he sleeps because the lore is that Donald Trump never sleeps. Now, this is the secretary of state, one of the most powerful positions. And he's out there acting like a maltreated intern from 2002.

16:47Ben Terris:Yeah, I mean, you know, he basically is saying that he's hiding from an almost 80 year old man every time he goes on an airplane with him because he doesn't want to be caught sleeping. You know, I've described this to people. The experience of reporting this story was sort of like sitting for a series of plays where I was the only member of the audience, where they were putting on these shows just for me. Shows, you know, Marco Rubio took time out of his very busy schedule. He's like the busiest man in Washington. He's got 50 jobs or whatever. And he took time out of his day to sit with me in the White House and talk about how he can't even keep up with this 80-year-old man, this almost 80-year-old man.

17:20Ben Terris:He, you know, hides from him on the airplane when he's sleeping. His memory isn't nearly as good as the president's. And this was just one of many conversations that went exactly like this. I talked to all sorts of people from Trump's inner circle who would say, I can't keep up with him. You know, my dad is the same age, and my dad could never do what he does. I couldn't do what he does. Stephen Miller told me if I was going to write an honest story, the headline had to be the superhuman president, which we then used as the headline, juxtaposed it with a picture of Donald Trump stumbling up the stairs and looking pretty old.