2025 Annual Team Draft with Mike Golic Jr.

28:49I've gotten plenty of those shots. I've done plenty of that stuff. That is a hard thing without the benefit of time to actually get to. Well, you may have had treatment on your back from playing football, but your girls had an epidural so i can pull the trump card there my guy uh and let me tell you that it's the rare that is not something you want to do unless you're uh up against it it's a pretty serious thing the procedure to get although the weirdest part uh for the 90 of my mail my listeners who have not had one is you still kind of feel your legs when you say it's kind of like a weird feeling where you're like kind of numb, but you're not really numb.

29:30So it's like, and then you're like, Oh God, am I going to feel pregnancy? It's like, no, no, you just don't feel your legs or you feel your legs, but you don't feel the parts that get hurt. God, I can't imagine doing that without that. Also, it goes down one of your sides more than the other sometimes, which is really confusing. So one of my legs was like dead legged and the other one was kind of like, I know, Chris, our producer just had a baby. She's probably listening to this. Anyways, it was a it's a very strange experience uh on that note i everything they're saying is that he's fine the other big piece of news by the way is that they do sound um uh confident that alrick jackson their left tackle is going to be ready if not week one right after that god hopes he is week one against the houston texans uh but um yeah that's big that's like gotten slept on i feel like matthew stafford is a player you really want to have past protection for at this point in his career.

30:23Uh, so maybe it's a little risky, but I still have them winning division. So the, the only thing I don't love is I just feel like this whole division is really close. They're like so clustered together, like more so than any other division in the NFL. I feel like all the NFC West teams are like right by each other. So I'm, I'm very interested to see how we slot the last two teams in the NFC West with that in mind, because it seems like there's a lot of Cardinals hype going into this season, but always. Okay. Well, you're next. Be bold. take the Cardinals, my guy. Yeah, no, I would like to do that, but I feel like we're at the point now where this, like, and again, we've gone a few here where it's just like, take the best team, but I'll go ahead and take the Buccaneers here.

31:05I think they're going to win the division again. I almost took them instead of the Rams. That was part of my Denver calculus as I saw, all right, I've got the Rams or the Bucs. I'll feel good about either because both can win the division and give points. I thought that's who you were going to take when you were like, I've been thinking about going this route. I thought you meant like the NFC South route, which is take the team that's going to win the NFC South. The Bucs have the 26th hardest schedule in football. Yep. And a team like, listen, you know, a third offensive coordinator in three years, it just seems to be the place where future head coaches come to hang out with Baker Mayfield for a year.

31:37But, you know, Liam Cohen is incredible. Like I, I, I remember calling a Kentucky game in 2021 and walking out of the meeting with Liam Cohen, who was the offensive coordinator then with Will Levis during the good year and thinking oh yeah this guy's going to be a head coach I don't know if it's in college I don't know where but this guy's going to be a head coach so feel very vindicated off that but like this offense I think is pretty recession proof and going through the transition like Graham Barton really helps solidify the line as long as Tristan Wirfs as you pointed out in the open is off the pup list and going to be ready to go this is a group you can lean on up front Bucky Irving was awesome last year and it sounds like the talk of camp was a Mecca Buka who, man, you can never, ever go wrong.

32:21Drafting the Ohio state receiver, like when in doubt, just draft the Ohio state receiver. You know, your heir apparent to the Chris Godwin thrown there still Mike Evans on the outside going for a grand every year. So I think that offense is going to rip again. The injuries worry me a little bit, right? Like when they drafted a Mecca Buka, it was like, Oh man, they're going to play four, not enough footballs to go around and then boom, it's like God was already boom, Jaylee millions hurt. So they're going to need him. Jason lights very good at his job. Right. Um, but, and I still have some concerns about the pass rush and the defense, but like I, the team might have winning the division.

32:57So at minimum you get that. All right. I'm up next. Um, this to me is going to be kind of like a little bit of a lottery pick. I'm going to take the bangles here. Yep. The most lopsided team in football, a team that is going to have to win a lot of games by a lot of points. So this pick makes me very nervous. However, a team that because of the offense and the quarterback, if they get into the dance could outlast anyone hypothetically, I'm not saying I would pick them, but the potential is always there because of the stars that they have on that side of the ball. Yeah. I mean, it's the team that famously brought you, you know, can the quarterback do it without an offensive line comes, can the offense do it without a defense?

33:36Like it just, the Bengals have flown in the face of what I have seen as conventional wisdom surrounding how to play football off the strength of Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and Tee Higgins. And so you're right. There is still a small part of me, even though I look and say, I'm not going to expect anything meaningful out of them because of what I just said. And they've tried to address the offensive line. Like this is less a commentary on that anymore as it is like, they just decided we're going to put all our money into offense and the defense can go kick rocks. We'll get Trey Hendrickson back for one more year to be the lone soldier.

34:06But I don't know. I get it's only preseason, but those pictures that we'd see week after week of the biggest holes known to mankind carved through the first string Bengals defense don't look like they're a Trey Hendrickson away from closing. Yeah, I don't usually get fantasy advice on this pod, but boy, I'm going to try to get every piece of the Bengals offense I can because they're going to have to put up a lot of yards in the passing game. All right. 14. What you got? Boy, this is, this is where it's going to start to get tricky. Yeah, I know. These, these are the teams where they could go in.

34:41I'd say like the middle from like 14 through 22 or three, you could go in any order. This is all vibes. Yep. I'm going to go with that in mind. Hmm.

34:58All right. This is another one just because it's kind of a wild card there. I'll take Jacksonville here. We clearly did a lot of the same research looking at advanced numbers. So look at the schedules. Jack's a very easy schedule. Yes. Very easy schedule. You know, the offensive line is still a worry, but Rob Hainsey comes over from Tampa. I think it was better than he got credit for there. That's a little Notre Dame homerism in there. Pat McCurry they brought over from Baltimore. Good pedigree guys, and I think Liam just knows what he's doing on offense. I think especially leaning on that one unit, they made it clear Travis Hunter's a wide receiver first and a cornerback second.

35:36You put him and Brian Thomas Jr. there, and I'm just really interested to see what it looks like. They won't be able to do the same things they did because personnel-wise they're not as strong in the run game aspects as they were in Tampa last year, but I think Liam's good at this, so I'm very curious to see what it looks like. All right, pick 15. So we're outside the playoffs now. Yep. Give me the Los Angeles Chargers here. Yep. I feel like the vibes on the Chargers are really bad right now because of the Rashawn Slater injury, and that is fair. But I think this defense is at least going to be average.

36:13Just a quick note, like, you know, because I didn't put them in my top 10, and they did finish top 10 last year, and I had to eat a lot of crow. I had a bet with Greg Rosenthal about that. It's so obvious that Jesse Minter is amazing at his job when you watch them play in person. So they, we had the chargers week two. And so it was mostly, there were a couple of reps with the starters, but it was a lot of the second and third string. They just don't make mistakes the way like, like most backups do. I don't know how to put it. Like they're just very fundamentally sound. Do I think there'll be great on defense?

36:43No. Do I think the offense can hit its ceiling without Richon Slater? Also no, but give me the balanced team with a good coaching staff and a great quarterback. I'll take it. That Jesse Minner point is so true. And I remember this was when I was going through training camp at the Steelers, Ramon Foster, who was a veteran there for a long time, was watching film with a bunch of rookies and talked about, he's like during the preseason, he's like, you don't obviously have a lot of tape on the guys you're going to go against in the second and third group, but in good coach programs, you're going to see the same stuff reflected through the front of the back end of the roster.

37:13And we know that's varying degrees based on how quality these guys are. but the Chargers, it shows up. They clearly teach and communicate things in a way that is so accessible for these guys regardless of the level of skill, which you could also say, hey, listen, you've got to have good personnel, but it's just clearly so well taught there to where you're right. You just saw them have answers for everything every time. There wasn't a hair out of place no matter who was in there. I also feel like between Trey Harris and Keandre Lambert, one of those guys I think will be the receiver that they want to win deep and outside the numbers and don't know which one necessarily, to be honest, but I do like that additions.

37:52I kind of like the Keenan Allen acquisition to that end too. Just like having the vet in the room with a bunch of young guys. Like again, it's redundant him and Lad McConkie in the slot and all that, but like this off season, looking around the NFL and seeing like a team like the Falcons do this with, with Leonard Floyd going to James Pierce and Jalen Walker, like a well-placed vet with some rookie talent that you want to do well to me goes a long way. Because I was talking to Malik Neighbors in New York when I was out there at Giants camp, and he talked about how much he's learned about being a pro from just having Russell Wilson around, like all the stuff you do away from the field, how you take care of yourself, the team he's got around him.

38:30Like hearing him rave about the impact that had in all these meaningful areas as a professional was a reminder. Like that stuff's learned. The first thing they tell you when you get to camp is hug a vet, learn their process, do these things. And so I think having one of those close is good. Don't actually hug them though. That might get you kicked off team. All right. Final pick of the first half is you 16. Who are you going to take? I.

39:00Man.

39:04Oh man.

39:10I'm going to go Seattle here. I'm taking my Seahawks from me. I feel like they're one of the teams where the preseason has kind of revived people's interest and enthusiasm in them. Yeah, I mean, Clinton, the offense, it clearly looks like it's had the desired effect. Gray's able stands, Unite, he looks awesome. it's a run scheme that I think is going to be a market improvement over last year where they were really struggling to find looks and sets that they were comfortable operating out of schemes that they were comfortable running with and yeah I get you lost a ton of personnel at wide receiver but I don't know man the defense on the other side I think is going to be nasty this year so I'm I'm I'm bullish on the floor for that team for the exact reasons you mentioned like it's all preseason propaganda for me.

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41:49I like your draft so much better than mine. It's fine. It's fine. Whatever. This is why I'm bad at fantasy. I just panic. I just panic and I just make decisions. The Texans, I didn't even want to take them there. I don't know why I did it. All right. Pick 17. I'm going to go with a high variance pick here because I just want to take shots. Give me the Minnesota Vikings. Ooh, okay. Because if that young quarterback is merely above average, this team should win a lot of football games. Question is, is he above average? No one knows. No, but again, to your point, betting on coaching staff's infrastructure, KOC's got the juice.

42:33When you guys did your coaching rankings, I remember kind of going through that exercise myself, and I just kind of kept coming back to – and listen, part of it is we're victims to what we hear in the public, and he's a guy that speaks really well to the media. We get the mic'd up stuff of him talking to other quarterbacks, but he just seems to have that EQ stuff that makes me bet that, hey, a quarterback that thrived in an environment where you had a healthy run game around him and some potent weapons that really only had to do what was required of him could go into a similarly well-positioned place that invested a lot in their offensive line to help fix the problems that they ran into at the back half of last season.

43:06So top seven, eight ish defense. I had them higher than mine, but I feel like that's a reasonable expectation, even with the questions about the quarterback group. I mean, I'm going to trust the coaching there. I don't love the division, obviously I think there's a world in which the Bears are better At the end of the season If they progress the way I think they will But yeah, I just think We just saw this team Obviously they're a prime regression candidate Given the amount of games they won And the one-score games and all of that But I just think The infrastructure is too good And again, if he's like

43:47Let's say like Brock Purdy his first season. It's a playoff team. If he's what he was at Michigan, like he wasn't a world beater at Michigan. He was good enough in the moments they needed him to make a play to go do that. Like it's not outside of him. Well, if he's Brock Purdy, he's a rookie year. He'd be like statistically one of his quarterbacks. That was a silly thing to say, but okay. You're up 18. Hmm.

44:19Well, I feel like here. So you have – do you have three of the four teams in the NFC North? Yeah, I do. All right, I'll take the Bears just for a wild card run in that one. Again, just another team that like – the last preseason start for Caleb was a little bit of a mixed bag. Like there was enough good stuff this preseason, and I like the upgrades they made at certain positions. One of the other teams that's kind of doubling down on the too tight end stuff that seems to be making a real comeback around the league right now. And defensively, they seem fired up about what Dennis Allen's brought there.

44:57So I think all of that stuff, I'm a little, I'm with you. Like again, in upside territory, the Bears absolutely sold me with their offseason and preseason. I mean, I just also believe with the Bears, they could be significantly better in the second half of the season. I mean, you know, difficult start week one against Minnesota defense. There could be like people might be freaking out early on. And I'm here to say right now, relax, because I really think that this is going to work with the new coaching staff. It might just take a second. You know, new offensive, the offensive line is entirely different.

45:27The way the skill players are being used is different. But, you know, I've seen enough of the Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams marriage in this preseason to be enthusiastic about it. I just think there could be some ups and downs. And like, I also, the defense to me is being slept on. I wish I had talked about them as a potential top 10 unit, because the more I've looked at them and thought about Dennis, Dennis Allen's style of play and how it fits with the secondary in particular, the better I feel. People, when I was out there for camp, now this was pretty early on in camp, but a lot of people were circling, uh, peanut Tillman was a guy did a show with the Bleacher Report.

45:59And a lot of people very excited about what Jervon Dexter's potential could be in that defense as a guy who's got some like splash, get up the field, three techniques stuff in a defense that lets you pin your ears back a little bit. So, but yeah, attention to detail is completely different around there. And you're right. Offensive line that hasn't played a snap together of meaningful NFL football in a preseason where usually the first quarter of the year is like an extended preseason anyway. It's going to look rough at the beginning, but I totally believe that, which is why I picked them. So pick 19.

46:28I will take the Steelers here. Ooh. Okay. I am not an Aaron Rodgers optimist at this point. I think I've made that pretty clear, but the whole case for the Steelers, which is a team that got to the playoffs last year with, you know, quarterback play that was obviously up and down. Why wouldn't they at least hit that mark with Aaron Rodgers? I think there's some logic to it. We talked about it earlier in the week. I think the defense could be good. I really do. Whether or not they have fixed their Ravens problem and run defense. I am not sure of, but I think with them, there's a good chance they can get into the playoffs and then it just comes down to matchups.

47:09And the pass rush is still good. The secondary could be improved. I liked the Ramsey addition. And we'll see about this offense, man. I think we'll know early on if it's completely what the Arthur Smith-Aaron Rodgers combination looks like and whether or not they can run the football, which is, I think, my biggest interest in watching them early on. And if they can, if the run game is improved, though, I do think that this is a team that should be able to make it to the playoffs. Based on the parts involved, like if Broderick Jones can just go out there and be consistent, the rest of that group to me is enough.

47:45Like Zach Frazier, really positive development last year. Troy Fautano's got to stay on the field healthy, but you and I both liked him as a former UW guy. So it's going to be interesting. You're going to learn tight end around there. That's for damn sure. All right. All right. Pick 20. By the way, speaking of learning tight end, have you looked at Darnell Washington lately?

48:12He should be illegal. That thing is terrifying. I mean, he's not a tight end. No. God, he's a sure-handed offensive tackle. I have him in Dynasty. I took him at the very end of my draft the year he was when it's just you're just taking guys um and one of these days i'm going to be forced to stream it i just know it already and it better be the day he catches a touchdown off of play fake in the lower right area that's all i have to say darnell man just gain the next 20 pounds put your left hand down and let's acquire riches does he have to gain 20 pounds because what he's listed at i'm just gonna look it up well that says 265 that's obviously not true the lie detector test is determined.

48:58That's a lie. All right. Wait, hold on. Agent's take. Why do I know Washington should change positions to make more money? That's a good take. I like that. I'm telling you, man. You'll make infinitely more. And look, he's a... Oh, this is Daniel Jeremiah came up with this. Listen. Hey, great minds. Not a bad take. All right. Sorry, you're up. Pick 20. Wow. Pick 20. Yeah. All right. In the interest of trying to speed it up a little bit here.

49:36I'll go.

49:41I'll go Atlanta here. Okay. Most of this is just Bajon Robinson. Like last year was the fourth leading rusher in the NFL. And I didn't realize this until I was studying them this off season. and obviously it's become well talked about now, but career long for rushing only 38 yards in the NFL is sort of amazing. Like some of that, I know people have talked about like scheme. They're almost exclusively an outside, which Dwayne Ledford, their coach is one of the best outside zone offensive line coaches that exists. This is such a niche take, but like he was the Mekhi Becton maker back at NC State.

50:18Like when he was coming out, Mekhi had his great year. That was Dwayne. The NC State groups were always incredible. and it's no secret they are the best outside zone running offensive line. Caleb McGarry down for a bit right now. I was just about to say, that worries me about Atlanta. I'm looking at the depth. I'm just like, who's going to? Because they also, yeah, I'm not sure who's going to play for them. No, but the way I view Atlanta is offensively, there's so much talent, obviously, first-round talent. They've stockpiled all over the place. Drake London is awesome. Bajon Robinson, I mean, could very easily lead the NFL in rushing this year.

50:54I wouldn't be surprised at all. Last year they were hampered by a quarterback that couldn't move at all. I know you guys talked about it on here formationally. They didn't do much different with Michael Penix Jr. when he got in there, but I think that's more of a late season thing where it's just like you're not going to completely reinstall stuff then. So I think that – and like the defense is one I think can get better. They decided they were going to just, you know, lizard, lizard, lizard, keep picking defensive ends in the first round. Xavier Watts, my Notre Dame guy, going to be a help on the back end.

51:24So I think the defense can improve enough to supplement an offense that I think should be very good. Yeah, I don't hate this pick. I also think it's the NFC South still. So if all those things happen, given the division, the level of competition, the ease of the schedule, they could absolutely win a lot of games. I'm just skeptical about the defense and then the offensive line thing worries me a lot. Okay. Pick 21. Deciding between two teams here. I am going to take... Screw it. I'm going to take the Dallas Cowboys. Oh! I was really hoping they'd fall one more for me. I think Michael Parsons is going to be signed, so it's stupid.

52:11I just think, and we're going to get into this obviously on the week one preview pod because they're going up against the Eagles. If Pickens is Pickens, this passing attack is really, really difficult to stop. I think there's reasonable questions about the offensive line, the run game, the run defense that still persist, but you can do worse than having one of the best wide receiver duos in football with a top 10 ish quarterback. and then arguably the best pass rusher in the NFL. So it's a flawed team. It's an even team. I don't know what to think of the coaching staff, but I'll take the top-end talent.

52:53It just sounds like diet bangles. Yeah. The Cowboys are diet bangles with a better pass rusher when he's healthy. And a better defense. They were really injured last year. Again, still major worries about the sort of spine and the front in particular. Did you see Trevon Diggs was activated? Yes. That's big for them. We'll see what he looks like coming off of the injury. But at least they have good – like Duran Bland. The Bengals would kill for a Duran Bland. So they at least have good – Osa Diggizoa. The Bengals would just do anything to have a player like Osa on the inside next to Trey Hendrickson.

53:35Nope. Tyler Guyton also back out at practice too, which is good news for them. Yeah, that's huge. All right, 22. Oh God. Um, all right. I got a bunch of NFC here. Do I need a little AFC blood mixed in here? I'll, uh, I'll go to England. Okay. Yeah. I figured they'd go around here. Yeah. This seems like the right spot, especially considering some of the other items on the menu. Um, I, I know the preseasons probably soured things a little bit in terms of how people view them. overall. What did I see here? Jalen Polk is going to start the year on IR. Kendrick Bourne's nursing and injury. Kyle Wilson's been banged up during camp.

54:22The receiving options around Drake May are still not overly enticing, but up front, it looks like they're going to have that renewed identity. Will Campbell's come in and helped them set the tone early on here. I think they'll be able to count on that and then drake may was awesome last year when the team sucked so he's got a better coaching staff around him and they've kind of like college football like portaled this roster like crazy to turn over and churn it really quick and now like the other thing i looked up that was crazy it's it looks like drake may is going to be the only member of the 2024 draft class that's back on that team this year like so like when you get to the depth it's kind of brutal at this point for them, but I'll take a flyer.

55:03Very easy schedule. Vegas likes them too. I think all the reasons you laid out there are good reasons why. All right. I'm going to go with the last team in the NFC West. I'll take the Cardinals here. um a team that was a lot better last year than people knew starting with that uh and was very up against it on defense so they went out and added a lot of talent there despite being like the hipster favorite uh defense also offensively i mean you know i them being better than people knew. I'm sure, I think they were like 11th in offense at DOVOA. Let me check. They were 12th overall. Wow. 11th on offense, 14th on defense.

55:59I think that would just surprise most people who killed them. But if you can get Kyler Murray scrambling more, you get something more out of consistency out of Marvin Harrison Jr. And then the defense has the ability to be more normal with like a legit pass rusher and Josh Sweat and Walter Nolan hasn't played yet. But yeah, I just think they're also a team, Mike, where they could totally win the division. Like I said, I think NAF and his US team too good. But they also could be like a sneaky tough out in a playoff game because they're so unique in terms of the ability to run the football, Trey McBride as a matchup problem, and then the defense just being weird.

56:40I feel like they could come up with a weird, bespoke game plan for someone. So, okay, I'm going to take the Cardinals. It's a great pick. What they've done kind of overhauling the D-line I think is going to be really interesting. Walter Nolan Jr., man, on his best day, was one of the scariest forces in college football last year. I know there's some inconsistency stuff, but I like bringing Calais Campbell back again, the right vet around the right rookie. Yeah. Well, I love that they brought back Campbell and Tomlinson. It's like, okay, we have young players who would be great if they're something, but we also have older players to sort of hedge that a bit.

57:16I would say, was it Darius Robinson who was injured most of last year? Yeah, he's in play, yeah. Now that too, so. Will Johnson's been playing, so yeah. God, if that pick hits too, what an absolute gift falling to that. Yeah, a steal, I know. All right, 24. 24, I'll go Raiders here. I'm very bought into the AFC West. I think that's my third AFC West team. Oh, yeah. This is another one. Again, if it hits right, I have real concerns about the defense, the offensive line, but as someone that also believes Geno's got good ball to have him, Brock Bowers, you've got the Jacoby – as of our recording today, Jacoby Myers requested a trade.

57:56They re-signed Amari Cooper. This is another team – we talk about the too tight end thing where a lot of these programs – Michael Mayer back in really good shape seems like he's in a good headspace to go along with Brock Bowers and Ashton Gentry is a lot of fun. Chip Kelly stuff that I'm interested to see. The Jacoby thing, Jacoby Myers trade request just feels like him recognizing he has a lot of leverage in this offense. Cause they're so thin at receiver. Um, and he's making like 10 or$11 million this year. I feel like they could just throw him if they, even if they don't want to do an extension, cause he only is he's on a one year, his one year left on his current deal.

58:35They could just throw him a little money and satisfy that. So it feels more like a leverage play to me than anything else. Yeah. Raiders offense. I've talked about a lot. Should be fun. A lot of concerns about the defense, but the pass rush at least will be, I think pretty good. But the offense I think is going to take a lot of people by surprise and they're going to be really unconventional as well. Right. It's going to be a very multiple tight end, heavy offense. You got a quarterback. He's very aggressive. Loves throwing to tight ends. You see that throw to Dante Thornton. Oh my God. Who, by the way, like he's kind of been the surprise.

59:08of cap for them at wide receiver, it sounds like. I know they drafted Jack Besch out of TCU a little higher, but Thornton seems like he's going to be the guy. This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Shave ice by the beach. A trip to the state fair. And a throwback flick at the local drive-in. They're more than just items to check off the summer bucket list. They're also opportunities to earn 2 % daily cash back when you use your Apple Card with Apple Pay. Apply for Apple Card now and use In Minutes with Apple Pay. Subject to credit approval, Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA, Salt Lake City Branch.

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1:01:15all right pick 25 here i'm gonna take the miami dolphins um so i kind of have i went back and forth between the dolphins and the pats in terms of like who would be second to the bills in the afc east the pats are the trendy pick for a lot of reasons mention them but the more i looked at the dolphins the more i thought yeah but they could just win a ton of games i mean the offense when Tua came back last year was really... They weren't explosive, but they were really efficient. They tried to improve the offensive line. We'll see if that works. This is still a really good pass rush now with everybody playing.

1:01:55Secondary is a problem. No question about that. It is one of the worst cornerback rooms in the league. But I feel like this Michael McDaniel with his back against the wall is going to find a way to improve the run game. And I think the offense can still be... you know, if not top 10 close to it. Yeah. This is a team where the vibes have been horrible, but to your point, like you just go back and look when two is on the field, the offense functions fine. I know for all the questions that we've had about two is importance relative to the offense over the years, like you take them off the field and it's gone to hell, which I don't know what that says about, you know, the entire Mike McDaniels coach complex and all the stuff that we've said and thought about him over the years, but now I'm with you.

1:02:37They stay healthy. it generally tends to work all right. All right. So that was pick 25. Here are the remaining teams. For those who have forgotten, I'm going to mix up my order, throw you off my scent. Giants, Panthers, Colts, Browns, Saints, Titans, Jets. Woof, woof. Yeah. Woof. All right. We're going bargain hunting. With that in mind, I'll go Colts here. Yeah. It's the right pick, I think. Yeah. And yeah, I've only got the Jags in the South. So, you know, we got the Daniel Jones experience here where in bizarre turn of events, he has become the poster of consistency apparently now in the NFL.

1:03:25Stabilizing, of course. Giants fans have to be sitting here like, what in the good damn is going on? But yeah, you know, offensive line lost some parts from last year that now live in Minnesota, which is important, but I think some of the best ones are still there. They extended Bernard Raymond, who's been awesome, continuing to develop there at left tackle. Quentin Nelson's still at left guard. All the quarterbacks can scoot. We've talked about that. That's going to be how the offense tries to live, so we'll see. I like the Colts defense. I think that they'll be at minimum above average. Or average, pardon me.

1:04:01I like the pieces they've added. I think Luana Rumo, giving him some veterans to work with on the back end is going to really help on that side of the ball. I'm going to take the Panthers here. Like it. Very nervous about this defense, even with Derek Brown back in the lineup. But I saw enough about the offense to feel like they can at least be feisty. What do you think about the Adam Thielen trade stuff? I feel like why mess with it? Just keep him in the building. Completely agree. It would take a lot for me to consider picking up the phone for that one because, again, he was the lifeline for Bryce Young in a sport where now, like, I mean, Tedrow McMillan during the preseason, some of those deep ball sideline stuff there, it really seems like that could be a lot of fun.

1:04:53They did the dirty work of paying the offensive line last year. So I'm pretty bullish that he can be the guy. I don't know about the long-term future, but end up as one of those guys in the range where you kind of end up having to pay him because there aren't always a ton of better options out there. Yeah. I wonder with feeling is like there seems like a lot of teams are really desperate for receiver help. So maybe the feeling is we're like deep. We got Jalen Coker and T-Mac and Leggett. But I don't know. I just feel like he plays such a specific role in the offense. And just, I feel, you know, like he did.

1:05:29I feel like with the Bryce Young situation from last year, it's like, okay, nobody move. Just no set of movements. Let's just keep this going, right? Let's not expose him to any adversity. Let's, you know, he had a great second half. Let's keep building. So that's all. All right. 28, you're up. I'll go Giants here. just because that defensive line is going to eat people's faces all season long. And there seems to be a little promise around the Jackson's art situation. Maybe showed some good flashes during the season. Obviously not going to be the starter right away, but at this range, it's really more, do you have one thing I can count on?

1:06:07And what I can count on is opposing quarterbacks. Like, good luck. Watching this group and watching them in particular rush against, like, the Bills starters and see the kind of success even without decks in the middle that they had was terrifying. Yeah. The, we talked about the Abdul Carter on Dion Dawkins reps, um, terrifying indeed. Um, giants have the hardest schedule in football. So there's a little bit of risk. That's been much discussed that comes with that. We also don't know when darts going to play. I drafted him in dynasty by the way. So I have a piece of Jackson tart now I'm invested, but um the defensive line can absolutely win games on their own no question in my mind against bad offensive lines come on um i'm gonna take the titans here uh part because this is just purely a cam word bet but i also felt like in the preseason the offensive line looked competent in front of him i think that position group could take a nice little jump this season.

1:07:14I also, when I did the AFC South Pot, I was pretty down on the defense. I don't think they're, however, like one of the worst defenses in football. I think that there's issues and they're missing like a star edge rusher. Cornerback group has some holes, but there are enough competent veterans there. Obviously, Jeffrey Simmons being the leader that they shouldn't be the sort of train wreck that forces Cam Ward into like the worst field position in the league. So yeah, give me, Give me some Cam Ward. Oh, wow. This is where Kevin Zeitler lives. Interesting. And JC Latham back on the right side. I think he's going to go a long way for that guy.

1:07:50Next to Zeitler, too. I like the way I know Dan Moore Jr. People don't like the contract, but he's a competent player. And they're all playing for Bill Callahan, and that matters a ton. All right. Three picks left. It's between the Browns, Jets, and Saints.

1:08:14I guess I'll pick. I think I'll pick the Browns. Really? Yeah. Okay. Maybe get a little bit of that Joe Flacco magic from a few years ago if the offensive line isn't a mash unit again. Carson Swessinger has gotten some good pub at linebacker in relief of JOK who's hurt. Like, Miles Garrett still lives there. Denzel Ward still lives there. So, I mean. A lot of the draft picks looked really good on Saturday, admittedly against the Rams, pardon me, like second and third stringers. So there was a bit of a talent discrepancy in our game. But I thought Schwestinger looked good. Fannin Jr. looked good.

1:08:56Samson caught a pass, which is good to see. I thought Gabriel looked really good. God, watching everyone be – I can't wait for the regular season to start so we can stop all being big, weird freaks about the Shudor Sanders situation. It's been the most disgusting internet slop on planet Earth watching that toxic conversation happen on my timeline every weekend. I talked about this on the fantasy, the Ringer fantasy show with the Dannys. But there's just every now and then a story where people who don't closely follow the sport get involved, and then it just gets dumb. And I think that's just an example of it's like, Kaelin Clark, Tebow.

1:09:40Like, it's just, you know, like I'm not saying like, these are comparable, obviously, but you know, it's just like, you get a lot of people who don't understand the, um, nature of the sport. Like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

1:10:04I mean, anyways, we'd have to get into it. It's a lot. And it makes you kind of feel bad for everybody involved. I feel bad for him to some extent, to Gabriel, to the staff. It's just – I mean, Kevin Stefanski got asked in a real press scrum about the fan rumors of him sabotaging you should do it. Stop. He got asked that question in real life. No, that's horrible. I think, again, I think Mary Kay Cabot was the one that had to deliver the question. but like the fact that it was enough of a thing to where he apparently got asked about that is wild. I also like, let me defend store for a second. Cause he gave a quote where they were like, he said, obviously I'm in the team.

1:10:44But then when you look back and asked it, the question was just like, do you feel like you belong? He's like, obviously like it wasn't like that cocky. And when I read his entire transcript, he just like all the sacks were my fault. Like, and now no one quoted that. I didn't see that. Did you see that on your timeline? Nope. like that's the like that's what you want to hear from you know I just I again I whatever the whole thing is just stupid all right Dylan Gabriel is clearly QB2 in my mind I'm surprised though I would have taken the Jets before them so I'm gonna take the Jets here um just because I think we're gonna get bounced back to some extent from the defense under Aaron Glenn and offensively if they can just run the ball it could be a tough out I think this is the Jets look I'm not optimistic about them, obviously, and it certainly hasn't looked great in the preseason, but I think they're a team that can just drag teams into the slop, and thus, coached by a guy who likes to live in that, so likes to get mud fights.

1:11:45I was a man who MacGyvered the hell out of the back half of last season, so if anyone can cobble together some paperclips and rubber bands and make the Jets work, and honestly, that run game could be, I mean, Justin Fields is incredible as a part of the rushing attack, the passing stuff. I think we're kind of far enough into his career where we sort of know who he is. And I don't think the Jets franchise is going to be the place that revives a quarterback streams, but they put a bunch of like, I think there's three first round picks on the Jets offensive line, including the offensive line could be good.

1:12:16Like the bookend tackles between Membu and Olufoshana were two of my favorite guys from the last few draft class. Like that should be a good young unit. My question for them is just Justin Fields. Are you willing to like carry the football at a pace? You know, like I, cause I think it felt like in Pittsburgh, he didn't want to, it's kind of like, well, I was like constantly confused why he didn't run more. This is it, bud. Like, right. Tote that rock because that's how this offense succeeds. Okay. You have the final pick and there's only one team left. So the New Orleans saints, Spencer Rattler led New York.

1:12:52Well, I wouldn't know. Sorry. It hasn't been announced yet, but it sure looks like the rat man is going to be back there. The agenda. All right. The agenda is alive. I have also Rattler and Dynasty. It's the saddest Dynasty team. Okay. I have Jared Goff, and then it's like the most bad news bears. Let me read to you who are my quarterbacks. Sorry. I know no one cares, but Jared Goff. Great. Derek Carr retired, but I'm keeping him in case he unretires. Spencer Rattler, Jameis Winston, Sam Howell, and Jackson Dart. It's a two-quarterback league, I should mention. Okay, gotcha. All right, that makes a little more sense.

1:13:30I also have Derrick Henry and Saquon, who regularly out-earn most, out-score most quarterbacks. All right, recap. Here are my team. I'll do mine first, and then I'll read yours because I have the first overall pick. The Mina Kimeshow 2025 team draft team, the Philadelphia Eagles, the Buffalo Bills, the Detroit Lions, the Green Bay Packers, the Houston Texans, the LA Rams, the Cincinnati Bengals, the LA Chargers, the Vikings, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Dallas Cowboys, the Arizona Cardinals, the Miami Dolphins, the Carolina Panthers, the Tennessee Titans, and the New York Jets. Mike's team. The Kansas City Chiefs, the Baltimore Ravens, the San Francisco 49ers, Washington Commanders, Denver Broncos, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Seattle Seahawks, Chicago Bears, Atlanta Falcons, New England Patriots, Las Vegas Raiders, Indianapolis Colts, New York Giants, Cleveland Browns, New Orleans Saints.

1:14:34You got a lot of the teams I came here in here planning to draft. I just say that. Wow. So you just went rogue on your own draft. I did. Yeah. I literally, I've, I've like Patriots easiest schedule, like minors draft them before. Hate myself. Honestly, that was my draft strategy last year was I had a plan and then just completely went away from it. So sometimes it works out. All right. Well, folks, we will of course go back after the Superbowl and revisit this. Sam Hoppin. Thank you as always for your great service in tabulating these beautiful color coded chart by the way i could reshare it but i don't think i will uh thank you as always to the folks at omaha productions kirsten sebecky owen saylor jack foster tecker tashin you can check out this podcast on tv at some point i have trouble keeping track of that or at youtube.com slash atmanekimes where i also publish my television entertainment recap pod with David Dennis Jr.

1:15:39Viewer discretion. Tomorrow, we are dropping on Friday morning a full recap of this season of Love is Blind UK, which was excellent, by the way. Mike, you should check it. It's so good. And then we will get back to programming with Alien Earth, which I am also enjoying a lot. In the meantime, as mentioned, go check out Golik and Golik, which is available on every platform as well. Mike, good to see you, bud. Always a pleasure. I look forward to picking up my belt after the Super Bowl. You have your first game with JB this week, right? Yes. People can check me and JB Long, who you were in the Rams preseason booth out with, doing Big 12 football on TNT all season long.

1:16:21So Hawaii at Arizona. Hawaii, Arizona, he told me. Yeah, check that out. Really excited. JB Long, one of the best guys in the business. You guys are awesome together. I can't wait for that game. Hawaii got a little feisty this last weekend. It was a fun one. It's back. All right. I will see you guys next week.

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