Bain of Terror: Preseason Week 2 Recap

25 Aug 2026 · 1 h 6 min · 20 chapters

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In short

Preseason Week 2 recap focused on NFL quarterback decisions and rookie/backup QB performances, plus quick-hit observations on several starting offenses and defensive standouts.

Guests

Dan Pazuda (frequent guest; co-host/friend of Mina Kimes). No other guests named.

Key claims

  • Browns’ choice to start Deshaun Watson is criticized as organizationally disastrous: Watson is “uncuttable” due to cap/dead-money constraints, and the QB competition was weak (Sanders vs a “washed” veteran).
  • Watson’s preseason/field play is described as lacking downfield conviction and arm talent; he’s also said to have been booed and responded by calling it disrespectful.
  • Raiders rookie QB Mendoza shows NFL-caliber arm/toughness and difficult throws, but the receiving group is a concern.
  • Rams: Stetson Bennett looks like QB2 despite Ty Simpson being a first-round pick; Bennett outplayed Simpson in the game reviewed.
  • Several starting-offense notes: Packers’ Matthew Golden usage; Broncos’ Bo Nix and Jalen Waddle fit; Commanders’ center/under-center issues; Jets’ Geno Smith drive; Panthers’ Bryce Young and T-Mac slot usage.

Notable examples

  • Browns: Watson booed; cited “one pass over 10 air yards.”
  • Raiders: Mendoza back-shoulder to Naylor; deep throw to Malik Benson dropped; Mendoza pick-six linked to miscommunication.
  • Rams: Bennett viral high-difficulty crosser/rolling throw; deep outs; Simpson misses tied to footwork/release timing.
  • Bucs defense: standout Ruben Bain Jr. and pass rushers (Diaby) creating double-team opportunities; Tyreek Smith and Kyan J Scott noted in the secondary.

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Chapters

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Preseason Highlights and Major NFL News

0:34 to 1:18

Discussion on recent NFL preseason actions and major news involving Deshaun Watson and Jed York.

“We're going to talk about, you know, the Broncos and the Packers and whatnot.”

Analyzing the Deshaun Watson Situation

1:18 to 3:09

Examination of Deshaun Watson's performance and the implications of his starting position for the Browns.

“And the other, I'm like, I'm trying to get an actual foothold on this story.”

Implications of Watson's Contract and Performance

3:09 to 5:50

A deep dive into the financial and organizational impact of Watson's contract and performance issues.

“Then after the game, he was asked about the fact that he was booed.”

Comparing Watson to Other Quarterbacks

5:50 to 8:34

Discussion on Watson's play compared to other quarterbacks and what the Browns should consider moving forward.

“So I just think in every turn here, this has reflected poorly on all the decisions this franchise has made to get to this spot.”

Assessing the Future of the Browns' Quarterback Position

8:34 to 14:00

Exploration of the Browns' quarterback future and the implications of their current choices.

“I mean, he's only thrown, completed, rather, one pass over 10 air yards.”

Quarterback Pressure Issues

14:00 to 15:25

Discussion on the struggles of a quarterback under pressure and its implications.

“there's a, on that same drive, drops his eyes versus pressure.”

Rookie Quarterbacks Analysis

15:25 to 18:21

Analysis of rookie quarterback performances, focusing on Mendoza and Gentry's preseason outings.

“Let's talk about the rookie quarterbacks, and let's talk about the Raiders and the Rams.”

Raiders' Offense Concerns

18:21 to 22:15

Concerns about the Raiders' receiving group and offensive line performance.

“And I continue to wonder who's going to catch those on this Raiders team.”

Rams Quarterback Battle

22:15 to 28:00

Examination of the Rams' quarterback situation, focusing on Stetson Bennett and Ty Simpson.

“And no one expected Ty Simpson, obviously no one expected him to come in and like compete for QB1.”

Evaluating Backup Quarterbacks

28:00 to 29:10

Discussion on the potential for Ty Simpson to step in as a backup quarterback and the team's comfort level with Stetson Bennett.

“And I think I have enough trust in Sean McVay that if you need to put Ty Simpson out there, even though we haven't really seen that much from him.”
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Preseason Quarterback Performances

31:20 to 42:00

Analyzing quarterback performances in the preseason, including Jordan Love, Bo Nix, and Geno Smith.

“This week he had equal snaps in the slot and out wide.”

Analyzing the Steelers and Jets Performance

42:00 to 44:14

A discussion on the performance of the Steelers and Jets in a recent game, focusing on key players and offensive strategies.

“It was kind of a busted coverage, and he hits A.D.”

Carolina Panthers' Offense Review

44:15 to 46:34

An examination of the Carolina Panthers' offensive performance, particularly focusing on Bryce Young and key offensive players.

“Thus far, you know, just looks like he has the juice as a pass rusher they were searching for.”

Panthers' Creative Playcalling

46:35 to 47:26

Discussion on the new play caller for the Panthers and the creativity in their offensive scheming during the preseason.

“that the Carolina Panthers have a new play caller, which kind of flew under the radar a little bit.”

Standout Preseason Players

47:27 to 50:29

Highlighting standout players from the preseason, specifically focusing on Ruben Bain Jr. and the Buccaneers' defensive prospects.

“I've been looking forward to this, getting to talk about some of the guys who we think have really impressed early on in the preseason.”

Kansas City Chiefs Defensive Evaluation

50:30 to 53:19

An analysis of the Kansas City Chiefs' defense and the emergence of young defensive players in the preseason.

“Also the possibility that Todd Bowles doesn't have to blitz as much as he has, if he has like a legit front four, which appears that he does.”

Quarterback Performance: Jack Strand

53:20 to 56:00

Analysis of quarterback Jack Strand's performance during the preseason and his potential as a developmental prospect.

“it really was very reminiscent of Van Ginkle in a way that I enjoyed.”

Quarterback Development and Roster Decisions

56:00 to 58:00

Explore the challenges of managing quarterback depth, especially with injuries and competition.

“So what do you do with, do you have four quarterbacks?”

Standout Players from Preseason

58:00 to 1:00:12

Discussion on standout players like DeSean Stripling and their potential impact on the team.

“All right, who do you have next as a standout?”

Arvel Reese's Impressive Performance

1:00:12 to 1:03:44

Analyzing Arvel Reese's skills and potential as an off-the-ball linebacker.

“I'm pretty excited to see what that kind of adds into a Kyle Shanahan offense too.”
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Transcript

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0:33welcome back to the minakayim show featuring lenny preseason week two is in the books i am joined by my friend frequent guest guest dan pazuda to talk about some of the preseason action and dan it's been a hell of a morning for the nfl i promise we're going to talk about good things that happened in the preseason we're spotlighting some fun performances we got a look at some starting offenses and quarterbacks actually played. We're going to talk about, you know, the Broncos and the Packers and whatnot. We're going to talk about the young rookie quarterbacks, Mendoza and Simpson. But before we start, there's two pieces of major NFL news.

1:13One is the announcement of Deshaun Watson as the Browns starting quarterback, which we will discuss at length. And the other, I'm like, I'm trying to get an actual foothold on this story. But this morning it also broke. I'm citing ABC eyewitness news that San Francisco 49ers owner Jed York was arrested in Ohio for prostitution. Courts documents show. I'm just reading the headline. Dan, there's going to be a lot more details that come out on this before the season, but not exactly the headline. I'm sure the league wants two weeks before the opener.

1:46Dan Pizzuta:No, no, probably not. And in the way where it happened in a small town of Ohio at 930 in the morning, the optics probably not great. So, yeah, I guess we'll probably definitely get more concrete information as that comes out. But not a great look for the 49ers. Yeah, the obvious comparison that arises here is the Robert Kraft incident. And so I think that'll be held up in terms of like the, uh, how it's handled by the league. And, but yeah, it's obviously a bad look. Um, I just, this just came out guys. So I just don't know. I like, I, I, I wish I had more to say, um, other than that, it's obviously a bad look for an NFL owner and a horrible look potentially.

2:29And yeah. Uh, the other thing I alluded to was the Watson news. So let's just jump right in. So, um, the Browns, for some reason they just didn't announce it on Sunday. They waited until Monday morning to announce that Deshaun Watson will be their starting quarterback week one. Decision met with widespread derision and anger from Brown's fans. This coming off of the heels of another bad preseason performance by Watson. And we can get into that and what we actually see from him as a player. Perhaps more importantly than that, a week in which he kind of went to war with Brown's own fan base. In the lead up to the game, he was asked about the possibility that he might be booed at home.

3:13He said, I don't care. Then after the game, he was asked about the fact that he was booed. And he called it disrespectful and said that it to him was more about personal things. Of course, he didn't actually say what that was, as opposed to what was happening on the field. um so there's so many different ways to go about this but i i want to talk about him and sanders and what we saw from them on the field but i think i the thing i want to talk about with you first or discuss is the actual decision itself and why we think cleveland did this um now the obvious explanation is they're paying him a zillion dollars still because of the worst contract in NFL history sure and the fact that they had to keep extending it or they didn't have to but they did yeah I think that's part of it um but you know I also genuinely part of me thinks that as bad as Watson was organizationally I suspect they do think he is a more predictable quarterback do you agree with that I don't even know like it's hard to say who made this call Munkin versus ownership versus whatnot um and I'm not saying there I would have picked Sanders and we'll talk about that in a second but it feels to me like um this was born of like munkin being like well i know what i'm going to get with him keep the offense on time we can bench him before we get to play at home in week three like what do you think went into this decision um which you know obviously was incredibly poorly received yeah mina what's the record for the longest sigh that's ever been made on this podcast because i feel like i'm about to do it um okay so i think this this entire thing

4:51Dan Pizzuta:just kind of reflects poorly on the entire organization, to be honest, to even be in this spot to where Watson is still on the roster. Like you said, the continued restructure of this contract that really never needed to be done, but the contract was so bad to begin with, they kept restructuring it like it was a normal contract. And he's still on the roster right now because he's uncuttable. Like you just can't do that. They would have$83 million in dead money next year if they cut him right now. uh and if you're trying to build up in 2027 you just can't do that so that just having him be here not having any actual like competition i think this also reflects poorly on like the quarterback shador is that this wasn't even an undeniable thing that there was another quarterback who could have made yeah watson who has been objectively bad also in the postseason i guess there are some reports that he's been the better quarterback in practice but then when we see actual competition, Watson has also been bad.

5:50Dan Pizzuta:So I just think in every turn here, this has reflected poorly on all the decisions this franchise has made to get to this spot. Yeah, from the jump, right? I mean, this is a team that, to revisit history, gave this quarterback an unprecedented guaranteed money deal despite the fact that he was accused by not one but dozens of women of sexual harassment and assault. Now, the Browns were not the only team that was interested in Deshaun Watson. And I want to say too, you know, Watson was like, this was not about football. I think it was about football. I think some fans have never gotten over it and were never on board to begin with.

6:24And I, my heart goes out to them because imagine giving, you know, like growing up with this team and just being absolutely slapped in the face by them over and over. But I like, as you know, not to revisit, somebody who covered this trade saw after his first season with Cleveland, the NFL media world already say, but what if he's good? I genuinely believe if he had played well, it would have been cheered. It would have been turned into a comeback story by both fans and the media. So, you know, I think the fact that he didn't was something of a moral bailout, if we're going to call it that. But anyways, this organization, like you said, they've, they've completely, they've basically been in a disaster of their own making for four years now, which is so long.

7:06And even with all of this money, like they had the opportunity, No one thinks the Browns are going to be good this season. But you could be good and at least not reprehensible at the same time. Or bad, pardon me, bad and not reprehensible is what I meant to say. And I think if we're going to blame them for a football thing here, it's not necessarily on its face choosing him over Sanders. We'll talk about his preseason performance in a minute. I would have gone with him, whatever. But the fact that they went into this offseason with a washed, clearly washed veteran who everybody despises and a fifth round draft pick.

7:45That was their competition at quarterback. And that's what they deserve the most heat for here is how they went into this off season.

7:51Dan Pizzuta:And also having a third round pick from last year who didn't even factor into this competition. Yes. So just all over where this was a very unserious competition that it seemed like even going back to like December of last year, the way ownership kind of tried talking about what Watson was, like started sowing the seeds that this was a possibility. And again, this is just, it feels like a sunk cost that they refuse to accept. And I think you can still have Watson on the roster, make him like the inactive third quarterback and just ride this out until the post-June 1st cut that you do next year when the contract finally comes up and you can just rid yourself.

8:34Dan Pizzuta:but the fact that they want to do this where most of the reports are still pointing out the fact that the first two games are road games so if they don't go well you still have a chance to if you are saying that we might bench this guy by week three as part of the reasoning of why he's starting the season like that's absolutely insane to me too it just it it reeks of just bad decision-making just all around.

9:04The performances have been abysmal. I mean, he's only thrown, completed, rather, one pass over 10 air yards. Watching him, I'm just looking at my notes, you know, it's not all like his full, per se, like, you know, backup Browns offensive line to back receivers are not very good. But I see a quarterback who has completely lost conviction in his ability to throw downfield. When he does throw downfield, it doesn't look good. It's poor decisions.

9:36He looks – and when I hear that he's been better in practice, that makes me think of how much of this is probably mental. And him – and when you watch his pressers, it's obvious he is fully aware of how disliked he is, and perhaps that is – like sports psychology is real. Perhaps that's affecting him as well, in addition to not having the throw power and athleticism that he had early in his career when he was unbelievable. You know what your ceiling is with him. It's bad. He's not a good quarterback anymore. So Sanders is interesting because, you know, he, I thought, definitely outplayed Watson this last week.

10:12I actually think he's been more, like, even in the previous week, he had the bad interception, but at least he was pushing the ball downfield. And, you know, I watched him. I went back and watched him pretty closely. and like there's I feel this way he clearly has more upside than Deshaun Watson at this point like in his career he will actually like he will attempt more difficult throws he's got an okay arm he's accurate honestly like when I watch him I don't see an inaccurate quarterback he's not generally missing throws he just still holds on to the ball way too long and he just doesn't throw with anticipation and the hope I think was that coming into this off scene that would be an area of growth for him.

10:53Because if he was, I think like the vision of him as a prospect, Dan, was like as a Brock Purdy-ish type player, right? Like where he's got a little bit of athleticism, he throws with touch, he throws an accurate catchable football. I believe all that's true, but he's going to have to learn to play fast because he does not have one of those cannon arms where you can throw it into tight windows. And he just hasn't sped up his game. And I have to think that factored into this as well.

11:14Dan Pizzuta:Right. Yeah. That's where I came down on this. And that feels like where that's the biggest indictment of him and his place in this competition, where he seems like the exact same quarterback that he was last year. And that's also not a playable quarterback, which it gets into how bad this competition was to begin with, where if he is going to hold onto the ball as long as he has, he's still averaging over three seconds to throw in his preseason snaps, which is one of the things that was last year. He had the longest time to throw in the league, just holding the ball, try to wait for something to happen.

11:45Dan Pizzuta:And he does have a little bit of that athleticism, but not enough to be an entirely off script type of quarterback. And he does not have the just kind of overall ability and arm talent to make those types of plays work. So he's playing against himself. It would make sense a lot more sense for him to be this kind of quick hitting spread the ball out type of quarterback. That's just not the way he wants to play. And if he's never going to lean into that, then he's not going to be a viable quarterback either, which is again it if you're just kind of looking at it in that way that we don't want to waste our time with Shador then it makes sense you would go in another direction but the fact that the other direction is Deshaun Watson who I think is also had similar things he does get the ball out a little quicker but also if there's any type of not even pressure just like a body around him his operation completely just falls apart and i think we we saw that a lot against buffalo i think he like his mobility is kind of zapped like he he doesn't move well either um i don't think he has the same arm talent that he used to either and even like watson's best throw uh against the bills was this dig to malachi corley that he leaves short and corley had to dive for it would have been a huge if he puts it where it should be that that could have been a touchdown with so much open field.

13:13Dan Pizzuta:So it's, you know, I, there's no, there's no right answer here, uh, because I don't think either quarterback blows you away with how they've played. Uh, but I just, I'd still feel like Watson was the more wrong answer. If, if that makes sense. Well, at least with Sanders, there's the potential for improvement. Although I understand that there's skepticism about that because he had an entire season off season, whatever with Watson, there's, did we know what this is at this point? And your point, I'm glad you mentioned the Corley. I mean, I'm looking at his notes. I mean, he attempted a bad tight window throw downfield on his first drive.

13:46Second one was blown up by pressure. The Browns attempted so many field screens in this game, by the way. I wrote, yeah, like Corley throw clean pocket throws the dig low and behind. Great catch by Malachi Corley. So what I wrote down, there's a, on that same drive, drops his eyes versus pressure. Instead of hitting the crosser, terrible throw the interception. Um, Clearly he does not respond well to pressure at this point in his career. Final drive, he throws a goal ball. That was actually decent, but then followed by another fourth down throw. I was way behind. I mean, he's just not good throwing the ball downfield anymore.

14:22Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, and it would be one thing if he turned into Aaron Rodgers, which as much as we hate kind of watching this version of Aaron Rodgers, that would at least be something. But he also doesn't play that way either. Yeah. So, yeah, like you said, it's about the money. but also we have seen teams in the NFL move on from viable starting quarterbacks and take gigantic cap hits. This is not a viable starting quarterback. What the hell are you doing? And also, just because something is expensive doesn't mean you have to stick with it five years after the fact. Four, rather, sorry. It's just absurd and insulting to fans.

15:08So anyways, yeah, it's funny because Andrew Barry has drafted every other position extremely well over the last few years, but he's been a disaster at the quarterback position. And don't miss me with the, oh, the orders made him do it. He's collecting millions, please. All right. Let's move on to happier news, or at least more compelling stuff. Let's talk about the rookie quarterbacks, and let's talk about the Raiders and the Rams. Let's start with the Raiders. First of all, scary news over the weekend. Ashton Gentry never good when you get the news report that a player's gone down and players are praying and then it turns out it's an ankle injury.

15:43I'm not it's still an injury but whenever they throw out the players are praying at practice you assume he's like basically dead. He's fine right not fine but he's he's okay yeah um so anyways obviously relevant for fancy reasons mitigated to agree by how cool Mike Washington has looked in preseason action who's the speedy tall running back that they drafted um but i want to talk about mendoza and you know we got another big outing from him more tape um several drives um and you know i my general take watching him again sort of similar to week one there's rookie moments there's obviously the pig six which i believe was about a miscommunication between him and washington more than anything and there's growth there's moments where you see want to see him respond a little bit better to pressure which is a legit concern but i also saw a quarterback who's willing to make very difficult throws quite frankly already um and just you know he's got it like the arm like that first uh first the first drive in this game he does a back shoulder and nailer is not caught which i want to put a pin in the but um there's a throw that he makes to nailer after that yeah that's like this anticipatory throw between the numbers where he just like that thing had heat flying off of it and you see that and you think all right he's got the goods yeah that's that's what i i came away with this like

17:11Dan Pizzuta:just mentally it seems like he does get it and he seems like he's in the right spot like even again on the pick six where there is a miscommunication like he's he's getting to the right spot maybe a little late and that's what gets some of the mix up but it just feels like he is someone who just kind of understands what he's supposed to be doing. I think it's funny that he was kind of going against the second team of the Houston, but it's just like, oh, Davian Clowney is part of Houston's second team. Houston's step is ridiculous, by the way. Yeah, and Caden D. Donald comes through with the sack just like completely quick first step untouched.

17:51Dan Pizzuta:So sliding scale on second team. But I think in all of that, he played well. The nailer throw you said was really good. Later in the game, he had a deep throw to Malik Benson that was also dropped, but I think that was a really good throw. Oh, that was dropped, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I just feel like there were a lot of plays where you see what he was thinking. It all made sense, and the process was there, which I think is as much as you can ask for someone in his position right now. Yeah, I think you're just seeing a lot of the qualities that we liked about him as a prospect. the arm the throw power you know i'm not saying he's josh allen or whatever but right it's absolutely nfl quality caliber um i think you saw the toughness too and not just the mental toughness of bouncing back for the pick six and the sacks or whatever but there was a play on the second drive where um he gets the raider the texans pardon me send a blitz and he gets whopped and he gets that thing off and that was one of the things i like most about him in college that was a little are golf-coded right which is he will hang in there and throw that thing and um you know that that toughness is going to serve him well against when he comes time to actually play against starters um i do came a riff in this worried about the receiving group and i'm not alone clint kubiak gave a quote uh this was actually after they were practicing with houston so i I understand that a lot of the starters like Mayer and Bowers obviously didn't play and neither did Trey Tucker, but Kubiak said learned a lot about the receiving room.

19:28They got to get a lot better. They took a step back. I bring this up because this has been my worry about this Raiders team and its construction since the jump, Dan, and you know, it wasn't alleviated in this game by watching Benson drop the out or like the back shoulder to Naylor wasn't Tyler Naylor's fault, but I'm like, that was his best throw in college. And I continue to wonder who's going to catch those on this Raiders team.

19:56Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, it's going to be 200 targets to Brock Bowers, which makes a lot of sense, which I would like to see Mendoza throw into Bowers just to kind of see what it looks like. But it's also, again, tough. The Raiders certainly do not have a good wide receiver group. it's hard to go against the Houston secondary and try to be judging whether this group is is good or not because again the Houston secondary is just full of a bunch of monsters but yeah the wide receiver group has been an issue obviously like Trey Tucker if you're banking on Trey Tucker being like your best receiver I think it says something that Jalen Naylor was their big free agent signing and he was the one playing in this preseason game and I guess you want to get him some some more reps in this offense but yeah probably not the greatest sign so I do think this is again going to be a big tight end heavy offense everyone has used the Brock Bowers is the JSN kind of stand in and one it makes sense because of the offense but also it makes sense because he's probably the only reliable piece that you can think is going to get open on every play.

21:10Dan Pizzuta:So if there's a lot of attention on Bowers, maybe that helps open up some other things for this receiving group. But yeah, they're going to need some of that help either from the focus on Bowers or schematically because not a lot of these guys are going to be winning one-on-one on their own. I think the thing that is still an unknown and will largely determine whether or not this is like a passable group and whether or not the offense as a whole is good enough to support Mendoza whenever he does start is the offensive line, which I don't know because we haven't seen the starting group together as a whole.

21:42We know that Klubiak's going to run the ball. He's going to put big bodies on the field. But if they're incredibly inefficient running the ball in early downs, I don't have a lot of faith in this receiving group. However, if they're able to live in that Seattle world where it's enough, especially in the second half of the Seattle season, and they get a lot of base defense, you start to feel good where you can get decent matchups for the tight ends. I think it's enough. So I think that's kind of my big X factor here is, is this offensive line good enough to, to run block, frankly, as much as pass protect.

22:16All right. So the Rams game was interesting because I, all summer long, we've been hearing that Stetson Bennett is the leader for QB two, which I think kind of has gotten a little bit slept on as a story, given that Ty Simpson was the 13th overall draft pick. And no one expected Ty Simpson, obviously no one expected him to come in and like compete for QB1. But one would think, right, that QB2 would at least be on the table for a first round draft pick. And I know everyone's saying, well, you know, like it's a young quarterback and you got to develop them. I know. I am saying backup quarterback.

22:53Like, it's, Dan, I was trying to think of examples like in NFL history of first round picks who are not only not being told they want to start year one, but not even being given the opportunity, but not talked about as a backup, it's pretty non-existent, quite frankly.

23:12Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, it is strange, especially because it's not as if Stetson Bennett was a second or third round pick that they were high on when they came in. So the fact that he's still sitting in there and they're kind of looking at him as the backup is strange, especially just given what we know Stetson Bennett is. It's not like there's a lot of untapped potential in Stetson Bennett too. I think we just kind of know what Bennett is going to be. He's not some raw developmental super arm talent type of player that you might look for that could potentially be like a changeup if Matthew Stafford gets hurt and you have to have a backup quarterback.

23:59Dan Pizzuta:We just kind of know he's very much just kind of like that pocket passer type of guy. So, yeah, the fact that he does seem to have the lead in that QB2 is certainly interesting. He played fine and pretty well, actually, I thought, in this game. You know, it starts off and it's like boot, stick, quick hit. You know what I'm thinking? Like, all right, like, what are we really learning? But then he started making some actually higher, talking about Stetson Bennett, some higher degree of difficulty throws. There's one that has gone viral because it's like this crazy, beautiful. What happened in the game, I gasped.

24:35Dan Pizzuta:I didn't know he had that in his bag. I don't know if Stetson Bennett knew he had that throw in his bag until he got it off. Gorgeous touch, crosser, layering it over the defenders, rolling to his right. But in addition to that, I want to mention, he hit like three deep outs on both sides of the field that I thought were, again, good throws. And I'm not saying this to say Stetson Bennett should be competing for a starting job anywhere necessarily, but I will say I thought he outplayed Simpson in this game who came in at some point in the second half. And, you know, I thought they gave him, again, like a pretty simplified offense.

25:10And, you know, he looked a little bit less. The coverage was a little bit less, was a little bit better than the first time around. And he missed some throws, honestly. I know I sound like I'm sacking out of both sides of my mouth because I started myself by saying it's weird that Bennett has a starting job, but if you took both of their draft picks out of the conversation and purely evaluated these two quarterbacks based on this one game, it would be very comprehensible why Stetson Bennett is QB2.

25:40Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, and I think one thing with Bennett, there was absolutely no pressure on him at all. I think he was charged like 12.5%, 5%. So he was working with a lot of clean pockets, but then Simpson was, it felt like it was an even more pared down version of the offense that he ran last week when it was still a lot of boots, like short passes between the both of them. There are a lot of just like tight ends to the flat that they were throwing. It was like, that was a big majority of a lot of what both of them were doing. But Stimps Simpson, again, a 4.7 yard, a dot, a 4.4 yard average depth of completion.

26:17Dan Pizzuta:I I don't feel like I learned a lot about him. I think there were some passes where it seemed like his head knew where he was going, but the footwork was still just a little jumbled and he wasn't completely ready to release it, and that's what led to some of the misses. So I don't know. I would have liked to see more. I would have liked to see a little more of an unleashed offense from him. The fact that it felt it was even more pared down from last week when a lot of people were giving him credit, but it was still a lot of the boots and off the play action and short passes. So I want to see more from him just in general, whether he's QB2 or not.

26:56So let me ask you this. If you were the Rams, would you consider trading Bennett if that was on the table? Because I think, I am of the belief, and this is not based on any information, that if something were actually to happen for Jimmy Grappolo, I just hit my hand, for Matthew Stafford for more than one game, Jimmy Grappolo they'd be on the phone like I don't think this is this is obviously a team that is all in on this season that views itself correctly as a contender I don't think either of these guys would be the starting I could be wrong so with that in mind if that's true I feel like if you get a it kind of depends on the offer but if some team is looking for backup death and likes what they've seen from Bennett, they would probably pull the trigger.

27:44Dan Pizzuta:Yeah. I didn't like what I have in my notes here. It feels like either way, if something happens to Stafford, this is going to be a vastly different offense than what they're running out in general. But yeah, if someone is going to offer you anything of value for Stetson Bennett, I think you absolutely take that because I don't think there's that much of a difference. And I think I have enough trust in Sean McVay that if you need to put Ty Simpson out there, even though we haven't really seen that much from him. Well, I mean, we've seen him be able to do what he's been asked to do. Obviously, you won't be able to get away with that for multiple games this year if you need to do that with, you know, so much of the training wheels and short passes off play action.

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28:24Dan Pizzuta:But I have enough faith that if he would need to go in, you can do that. I think you can. If you pick them 13th overall, you should trust him to be the backup quarterback if he does need to play. So yeah, if anyone's giving you anything of value for Stetson Bennett, that absolutely pulled the trigger. I think if this team, it would depend on the injury and the opponent. If they were, I don't have a schedule in front of me, but if it was one or two games against bad teams, I think McVay would say, F it, let's see what I can do. Let me go. But if it was any kind of length of time, I'm suspicious of their comfort level, certainly based on how they've handled Simpson this offseason, which I'm just saying it's, I feel like begs a little bit more scrutiny than it's been given.

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32:25Because we already know about a love. This week he had equal snaps in the slot and out wide. I've been interested in his utilization, although Jaden Reed hasn't been in there. But all summer we've been hearing, this is Matthew Golden, first round draft pick from last year, didn't get going until the very, very end of the season. And judging by these early returns, Stan, I'm of the belief that he will be a big part of their offense.

32:50Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, and he kind of has to, right? Because they got rid of the other wide receivers where they were going, you know, four or five deep last year at times. But they need Golden and Watson to be like kind of those outside receivers because they still ran a bunch of 12 personnel in that game. And it was, you know, they were moving around Golden and Watson, but those were the two guys who were out there most of the time. So I've always liked Golden. I liked him as a prospect. I thought he would. get a little more. I thought he would jumpstart a little more during his rookie gear, but the fact that what we thought was going to be there is starting to show up and kind of the drumbeat through training camp is that he's been playing well and is going to be a big part of the offense.

33:36Dan Pizzuta:And to see how he was able to win on that crosser, just kind of the way he moved, that was fun too. So between those two guys, I think this is going to continue to be a fun offense as long as like we hope that they're going to throw a little more because the run game still worried me a little bit so if they can rely on throwing the ball because they have a good quarterback good wide receivers good tight end when tucker craft comes back i this i think this is really going to be a fun offense he went little fleur went run run pass before uh and i just i wrote down this isn't over between us lefleur um but yeah i golden had the big the Crosser, he was lined up wide, but it was out of a condensed formation.

34:20Pulls away, easy separation. I think it was after the rubber pass. It was maybe the pass. He was, I think, facing press out of the slot. Got open for a tough catch. It was against the linebacker. The point is, I think we're seeing a little bit more out of him already, and so I'm intrigued by this. On the flip side, Denver. Bo Nix, we get a drive. So first I want to say the wheel route to Harvey was beautiful ball from Bo. Yeah. And we already knew he's really good throwing outside the numbers. I feel comfortable saying that. The question has been whether Jalen Waddell, in arriving at this offense, can turn him into a better thrower between the numbers, can make them productive, intermediate as well, but particularly the middle of the field.

35:11the um ball to waddle in the seams it's not a good ball i'm not saying this is not a judgment on nicks in the season and whatever it's one throw what i will say is what waddle did there was exactly what you want to see as a broncos fan which is the ball's a little under thrown It's not horrible, but it's just the Lerner Throne. The ability he has to adjust, slow down, and continue to pick up yards after the catch is what makes Jalen Waddell so special. It's that rare combination of contact balance, or just balance. The physical strength plus the speed is why he is such a unique and special player, and you saw it in that single rep.

36:00Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, and he's the type of player that can just increase the margin for error on plays like that. And when you look at the play as a whole, it just shows what Waddle can bring. They have the tight trips to the right side. Evan Ingram is the isolated receiver on the left. And then they have the Waddle's the three inside. They have the switch release, and that puts Waddle on Xavier McKinney. And I love Xavier McKinney. He's not the guy that you want to be having covered Jalen Waddle one-on-one. So you already have a mismatching coverage there. then you have Waddle just running past him to get wide open, gives you the margin for error on that throw where it doesn't have to be pinpoint accurate for it to be a catch and a big play.

36:42Dan Pizzuta:And I think that's just the type of stuff that they're going to have for Waddle. That's what he allows to open up this offense. It's just an element that they did not have last year. And I'm really excited to see what more they're going to continue to add onto it because I just think he's an awesome player that really just gives them something that they were really missing last year. And again, if you like the fact that Nix is going to start making, attempting more of those throws is his best shot at improving upon at them. You know what I mean? So like, I don't mean to like be like, oh, it's kind of under thrown point is he that that's why Jalen Waddle is there.

37:20So just I'm so excited for him. I think it's Broncos offense has a potential to be significantly better this season. uh the commanders we only saw one series and it was a big womp womp jane daniels comes in um and he has three plays on the first one the center julian good jones unfortunately does not live up to his name uh because he struggles to pick up plates uh then they try play action which we you know are here we're gonna get worse under center play action on the second one but the tight ends f it up this time and it completely gets blown up and then the third plays is just their plays just a surrender draw none of this has to do with jane daniels um but and it's just one drive but i guess i ask you this do you worry about this new offense and perhaps more significantly the offensive line because or the blocking ability because you know again it's not like it like i said the first play was the center the second because they let Biotish walk the second.

38:23And then Alec Reddy has had injuries. And then the second play was the tight ends. But do you feel concerned or do you just not want to overreact to one series?

38:31Dan Pizzuta:Well, I'm going to side with Dan Quinn here, who after the game said, we got work to do to figure out where we want to get to at center. Okay. And I think Ben standing at his sub stack has been kind of, I think he showed the progression of how they've talked about center. They were like, we, we like what we have. We'll see how they develop. And it's just like continually just kind of gotten Morgan negative until we got to that play in that quote after the game. So yeah, I am a little worried. I do think there's enough at the rest of the offensive line. They talked about how Sam Cosme is playing awesome at guard.

39:14Dan Pizzuta:So I don't think this is going to be something where it completely blows up what this Washington offense is going to be. But I do worry that it might not be able to lean into the under center play action stuff because of that second snap where DJ Wanham just blows right past John Bates. And then you're asking Chica Conquo to come all the way across the formation. And he does okay, but doesn't give Jaden Daniels any room to run away from the actual pressure that's coming. So when you're asking your tight ends to block that often like that, it's I'm kind of worried that by mid season, this is just going to become a shotgun heavy offense again, because that's all they can manage.

39:58Yeah. I think one of the, I mean, we're going to talk about this later this week with Robert Mays, but one of the obviously biggest plot lines of the season is all these offensive coordinators from that world, changing these offenses and who's going to stick with it. And where is it going to work? and Washington is one where I've mentioned this continuously talking about this team. Do they have the capability, not just the quarterback, but everything else? I think that was kind of what I came away thinking. We talk so much about Daniels. What do you play under center? What does it look like? I was watching this thinking, I don't know about everyone else around Jaden Daniels and whether or not this will work.

40:37It's an offensive line that was so promising, but then you lose Laramie Tunzel. Center is suddenly an issue, and now two of the five positions, you start to worry about pretty big way. So that was my takeaway. I'm not panicking, but that is the one area of significant concern I have for Washington.

40:52Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, I'm there too. For the Jets, I'm going to read a post. We got to see one starting, one drive from Geno Smith, who went seven for seven, touchdown. This is from at Triple Boogie. It's a Jets fan. Hey Jets, I'm confused. You said Geno Smith was starting tonight, but instead I saw prime Joe Montana with the best opening Joe Montana. Sorry. I don't say that word with the best opening drive of all time. Please respond. All right. So like, you know, I'm joking. He's joking. I'm joking. We're all joking about the Gino comeback, but I think you saw what you would hope to see if you're a Jets fan, which is a capable veteran quarterback who is capable of placing the ball in the hands of his playmakers.

41:45A couple of throws were actually behind early on, but then you saw some good stuff. One where he hung in there under pressure. One, there was a... Who were they playing? Now I forget. It was... I can't remember. Colts, I think? Oh, no, it was the Steelers. Steelers, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was kind of a busted coverage, and he hits A.D. Mitchell, who's absolutely going to be a thing this year, by the way, on the corner. It was like a play action. And then there was one where he escaped pressure and Garrett Wilson.

42:15Dan Pizzuta:Yeah. So good, by the way. Hit him on the out. And then there was a wide open touchdown to Jelani Woods. Okay. We're not overreacting. I will say the Steelers did have some starters in, but it was a lot of backups. But I think if you hope to at least witness competent offense from the Jets, this was an encouraging start. I think what I came away with, and I'm scared to say this, was I was more impressed with Frank Reich than I thought. I was going to be just in terms of how things opened up and the way the offense looked and some of the schemed openings that were there. I think there were also if I think if Gino wanted to hang in the pocket a little more on some of those plays where he didn't have pressure, there were some downfield shots that you probably could have taken didn't need to at all.

42:59Dan Pizzuta:But there was still some things that there was more there that could have been taken, which was promising. I think the fact that Gino did have some good protection for most of the game and on those plays where he looked pretty comfortable stepping up and finding someone. So yeah, it's definitely promising. I think on the one play that got batted down and I think Dylan Parham caught it, I think Jeremy Ruckert and Aidy Mitchell run this exact same hitch route to the same spot. So I think there might be some issues that still need to be cleaned up a little bit. But for the most part, I mean, if that's what your negative coming away from this is, it's so much better than anything we've seen from the Jets over the past couple years anyway.

43:44Also, David Bailey on the other side of the ball, second overall pick, blows through Roderick Jones for a sack. It's a little bit on Howard for not stepping up, but he cooked him thus far. Looks good. Looks the part. Low key, all of the first round defensive players have kind of looked good. I, you know, it's crazy, whatever, but Roderick Jones, I know Steelers fans are like, he stinks. And, you know, he's not our actual starter, but he has been a starter. So that's not, no one for him to beat that way. Thus far, you know, just looks like he has the juice as a pass rusher they were searching for.

44:22All right. Last starting team we'll talk about before we get to preseason standouts is the Carolina Panthers. We got a drive, a couple drives out of Bryce Young. The first one got blown up by pressure and a run stop. By the way, so weird to see Rook Aroro on the other side there as a jag. I'm just like, what is a jag? But the second drive was great. You had great Jonathan Brooks run, great block from Tommy Tremble, Monroe Freeling, who I think has looked really good for them at right tackle. You had Bryce stepping up in the pocket, hitting Tremble after that, and then the crosser to T-Mac from the slot, notably.

45:04So that connection appears to continue to pick up right where they left off last year. Generally just, you know, I thought again, Jags didn't have all their, didn't have a lot of starters in, but pretty comfortable outing from Bryce Young. You know, I think my big takeaways were Brooks and Freeling look good and T-Mac. I'm very interested in his utilization moving forward because thus far nine of his 22 snaps in the preseason have been in the slot, which is something that a lot of folks have been wanting to see. What was your general takeaway from watching the Carolina Panthers?

45:35Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, that was pretty much it, how they've been structuring this offense. And it's interesting with TMAC, like the limit is NAS, but 60-40 outside split on early downs, but then you're going 40-60 the other way on third down. He was 80%, 85 % wide in 2025. So they are getting him more in the slot. Like you said, that big crosser came from the slot And then on the next pass, there's late motion that puts T-Mac in the slot. And it could have been a touchdown. He goes down at the one. So they are figuring out ways to get him into more space because that put him with space against a safety. So that's fun.

46:18Dan Pizzuta:And I think that's just more creativity that they weren't using quite as much last year. But I think with moving Coker and McMillan around, I think it's cool to see. And I would like to see how that continues to go through the regular season. Of note, too, from a creativity and deployment standpoint, that the Carolina Panthers have a new play caller, which kind of flew under the radar a little bit. Yeah. And Alice giving play calling duties to Brad Idzik was kind of a little bit of a head scratcher. But like you said, it did look good early on. And it would be really cool if Jonathan Brooks comes to say, by the way, at bat, because I did like him a lot as a prospect.

46:54Obviously, suffered through injuries early on. but I think he's looked fantastic so far and Freeling again also very important because it's a team that Taylor Moten's status is very unclear they lost a Quan who's hurt so you know it was like they went from having too many offensive tackles to being grateful for the depth and the fact that they took one in the first round and early on it looks pretty damn good so optimistic I'm going to talk more about Bryce Young later this week by the way on my second podcast so put a pin in that Carolina Panthers fans All right, standouts. I've been looking forward to this, getting to talk about some of the guys who we think have really impressed early on in the preseason.

47:36I will go first. Ruben Bain Jr.

47:43Played two drives this last game. And just looking at my notes, the first one, it's so funny, by the way, because, okay, so on the first drive, you saw good play against the bronze, good athleticism after uh can't see you get some early penetration to stick with it uh then on that i think the next step he gets doubled and diaby wins he's a 101 against left tackle then on the second drive we got him about first of all dropping a coverage twice todd bulls yeah just demolishing she's i can't remember which one rerouting him yes yeah and then on third down this glorious moment where both Diaby and Bain Jr.

48:28win. Bain Jr. with the hump move that we've seen. And I think just watching it as a Bucs fan, this is everything you hoped for when they got Rip and Bain Jr., which is to say Diaby's always been an underrated good player, but he has not had a running partner over the last few years. And with Bain Jr., now you have someone who can eat double teams, create opportunities for other players, but also if given an opportunity can win on his own and suddenly you feel way better about this I had the Bucks as a top 10 defense in my top 10 defenses pod this was the premise of it which is now we have a legit pass rush a versatile pass rush and guys in Bane Jr.

49:09who will create opportunities for other players as you saw with Diaby so I'd be feeling pretty good if I was a Bucks fan after watching what that defensive line looked like are those two drives yeah defensive line was definitely fun and i think any thing that you might have dinged bane for with the

49:25Dan Pizzuta:the short arms and we talked about this after the combine that that hump move is like his best move he's not new to the short arms so he's learned to play like this he knows what he's doing so when he he gets in there he's already mastered that uh and he's throwing offensive linemen back and getting in there and then when you add that to uh just the kind of the the guys that they have going in the secondary two guys that stood out for me uh tyreek uh tyreek smith uh their safety who would have been like my second team all pro safety on if i had a hypothetical ballot last year and then uh kyan j scott who uh the rookie corner i'd like plays in the slot he played a little more around the line of scrimmage those are two guys that are just going to like run as fast as they can toward the line of scrimmage uh so when you have those guys behind that pass rush i think that the potential to be a lot of chaotic fun for this Buccaneers defense this year.

50:19Yeah. Take he like the fact that he, you know, we have him on the field and you have Kante Saad that Winfield junior could just play the post and yeah, a lot of opportunities on the backend created by the front end. Also the possibility that Todd Bowles doesn't have to blitz as much as he has, if he has like a legit front four, which appears that he does. And of course they kept Vita Vea, which I didn't talk about when it happened, but was hoping would happen if you're Tampa. But yeah, with the way things are going with the rest of the NFC South too and some of the injuries, it does feel like the Bucs are once again ascending back to being the favorites in the NFC South.

50:54All right. You give me one of yours next.

50:57Dan Pizzuta:I would just go to stick with the same game, other side of the ball, the R. Mason Thomas. Man, he was fun in this game too. The first pass play they have is third and 23. they run a screen at him and he just kind of isn't really there the next play or the next time they run it later in the game he's all over it and like almost Van Gingles it so the fact that he was they ran it once, he saw it and then the next time was already there that's awesome to see I think he already had a couple of really fun pass rush snaps and then just kind of to throw off of it like Metsward Delane too reads a screen, the receiver has to dive at him, and then that clears the way for the other corner to make a tackle for loss.

51:46Dan Pizzuta:And then the next play was the Thomas screen that he breaks up. So there's just a lot of just fun, energetic pieces coming on this Kansas City defense, too, that I think they really needed to step up, especially at edge, which we just kind of wondered if they were going to get that type of guy and if our Mason Thomas can be on the field and get some of that pass rush, just be in lane disrupting things. He's going to be a real fun player. Yeah, and the first pick, Woods hasn't really done a ton. Peter Woods in the preseason thus far, but not the first pick, or Master Delaney was the first pick.

52:24But Armisen Thomas has absolutely looked like the juice guy that they hoped he would be. So explosive off the line of scrimmage. It's like you just, watching it, I just felt like, damn, I haven't seen this on Kansas City in a long time. Yeah. Right? Like, it's been a while since they've had legitimate juice off the line of scrimmage. I think he's held up decently versus the run as well, which kind of was one question I had, like, how much can he play? FAU, who was the first-round draft pick, who hasn't done much for them, and he's been injured as well, but I thought he looked pretty sharp, pretty exciting in this game.

53:00And, you know, this is all pivotal for Kansas City. Like this offseason was about rebuilding the secondary or this defense, pardon me, with a youth movement. And thus far, the early returns are pretty, pretty good, honestly, especially with our Mason Thomas and Delaney, who is as advertised. So definitely agree with our Mason. Yeah. That when he blew up that screen, it really was very reminiscent of Van Ginkle in a way that I enjoyed. All right. I'm going to go to offense now and I'm gonna talk about a quarterback. Jack Strand. Yeah. Falcons. Thus far, the story of the Falcons preseason. So, all right.

53:42I got to start with this caveat. So, I watched him a little bit later. It's, you know, we can't say that other young quarterbacks like Simpson or whatever are getting a simplified offense and not mention here. Start by saying, you know, it's a lot of boots. It's a lot of cutting the field in half. And, you know, like there weren't many, there aren't like high degree of difficulty NFL throws happening here. Right. But we're talking about an undrafted quarterback from, I forgot the school, Minnesota.

54:19Dan Pizzuta:Minnesota State Moorhead. Minnesota State Moorhead. D2, not even FCS. I think what you're excited about, if you're a Falcons fan, is he looks the part of a developmental prospect, which is to say he has a big arm and he's athletic and the game simplified game does not look too fast for him. I thought he made good decisions for the most part. You know, he's missed a couple of opportunities little off here and there, but already shows a decent level of accuracy throwing downfield coupled with, of course, like the athleticism, the scramble touchdown legitimately impressive. Like he isn't a legit athlete.

54:59He's big as well. So, you know, I'm not saying, again, he should be the Falcons starting quarterback per se or whatever, but if you're talking about an undrafted quarterback who gives you some excitement to develop, I think it was a pretty impressive performance from him. And, like, given that bar, he's absolutely cleared it.

55:20Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, and like you said, it was, my notes are like, he looked in control the whole time. It really didn't look like there were a lot of things that were just too much for him. But then there were a couple of really nice throws. That deep slot fade he throws from empty to Anton Wells, that was a nice throw. And then comes back later, like a straight seven-step drop from under center, and he has the throw just to go around down the sideline, which was nicely placed. So he does have those throws in his arsenal, which was nice to go on top of the boots and some of the shorter throws that he was doing just to get him in rhythm.

56:02Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's an interesting situation because he is the type of developmental quarterback you'd like, but do you keep him as the quarterback three because of the injuries and play of Tua and Michael Penix where you just might need that Cooper Rush who's currently on the team to stick around because you might need him sooner rather than later. So what do you do with, do you have four quarterbacks? I think that's an interesting roster thing, but the fact that Strand, a guy out of D2, has made that an interesting thought that they will need to figure out is fun. Yeah, he was definitely fun to watch and would like, he's the type of preseason guy, like when we talk about the developing quarterbacks in the NFL, like he's the type of guy we should be trying to develop in some way.

56:53Dan Pizzuta:because it's fun. And there were a lot of flashes that you feel like can build on something. It's funny because he, if he was backing up Penix, he actually has some similarities to him. I think in like you mentioned the beautiful, the placement, he actually threw another really nice goal ball that wasn't caught, but yeah, you know, the ability to throw downfield and the power is legit.

57:17I think like, you know, it's one thing to do this extremely well, protected against backups. Escalating this to week one is quite an escalation. I'm just saying, you know, and also Penix, by the way, finally back at practice could not be better timing. I don't think there'll be a time for week one, but given what we saw from Tua in the preseason and what we've seen from him or heard about him in camp, this is a real opportunity for Michael Penix Jr. to come back and take this job. Falcons fans are probably clamoring for it. So this is it, man. I feel like this is, you know, Penix's kind of make-or-break chance this season.

57:58It'll never be better than this. All right, who do you have next as a standout?

58:02Dan Pizzuta:All right, I mean, how can we have a preseason podcast without talking about DeSean Stripling? I got him a dynasty, and boy, I celebrated. Yeah, as you should. I'm going to catch like 900 balls this year. It's just insane. Five targets on seven routes this past week. It's basically a 50-50 split between wide and slot snaps so far this preseason. He looks like a juiced up Juwan Jennings. And that's someone who loves Juwan Jennings. The fact that he has just more smoothness and explosive ability, it just feels like the perfect type of Kyle Shanahan wide receiver who's going to be able to win tough off the line, but also get into space for some of these explosive plays they can draw up.

58:47I think that's my big question with him. is like, is he just replacing Jennings or what is the potential to do more beyond that? And Jennings was incredibly productive and important on money downs. Especially third down, yeah. And his diner's offense, very good blocker. You know, when they drafted Stribbling, that was my thought. Like, okay, cool, he can do the Jennings stuff. They need someone to fill this role. But now we're seeing there might be a little bit more to his, a little bit, there might be more to his game like you alluded to. And maybe can he replicate some of the production they had anticipated from getting out of Ricky Pearsall at the Z.

59:20I think that's what I'm interested in saying is, do they use him at all three levels? Do they use him downfield? Because Brock Purdy does want to push the ball downfield. We've seen that. And outside of Evans, who's not a lead separator at this point, but will still win downfield, is there anyone else on this roster who can do that? Can he do that? I think that's going to be one of the interesting things to watch with San Francisco. Yeah.

59:47Dan Pizzuta:Yeah, and I think he can. And especially when there's like if and when Kittle comes back, you're going to have more of that just the focus in the middle of the field and you're going to have a lot of focus on Evan. So he's going to have a lot of opportunities, I think, to just be one-on-one in whatever level of the field it is. I think he's going to be a big part of this offense. And from what he's shown already, I'm pretty excited to see what that kind of adds into a Kyle Shanahan offense too. All right. My last standout is Kyle Williams in this last game playing with Tommy DeVito. He had, I think like 75 yards.

1:00:29He had one 69 yard touchdown. Beautiful, by the way, rep from him. He has this gorgeous release and beats, it was Ambie Thomas, right? Yeah. but then upon rewatching it he could have had like 150 plus in this game holy mackerel I mean he was open downfield like multiple times and again like this receiving group they're deep they're stacked but his ability to stretch the field is unmatched like he has a different level of speed and separation. He's still not perfect in terms of some of his routes underneath, but it's hard for me to not imagine him being useful for this Patriots team because of the space he creates.

1:01:18Dan Pizzuta:Right. Okay, your final spotlight player is one I've been excited to talk about because I haven't, and I just love him. Yeah, Arvel Reese. Yeah, he knows what he's doing out there, which is, I think, just when you watch him, It's just he's always in the right spot. The first run play, Chargers and blows up the fullback, who's the lead blocker on the run play, and then still gets in for half a tackle on the actual play. There was a fumble later where he's up on the line of scrimmage. He moves a couple gaps over, and he would have been in for a tackle for loss, but the ball was already hit out. When he's so smooth, when he looks like he's dropping back into coverage, also just always in the right spot.

1:02:04Dan Pizzuta:He has yet to look lost on the field, which is awesome for a guy that some people thought he would play edge because the Giants have all the edges. He's going to play linebacker here. Like I'm, I'm surprised he's not higher in defensive rookie of the year odds. Like just based on. Yeah. If he has linebacker tackles and some edge sacks, like I think like that's, he's going to have a numerical case and I think he's just going, to be awesome too. It's just been such a reminder early on in his 20 plus snaps or whatever that like he is a very good off the ball linebacker. And like you said, that was kind of lost in the conversation around him ahead of the draft.

1:02:45But you alluded to it. I think the thing that's also jumped out, there's been a few moments where he's just been really quick to diagnose misdirection, right? Like on a rollouts and whatnot, or you're like, oh, this guy knows what he's looking at. Like not only is an incredible athlete, not only is incredibly strong and fast, but he's a smart player and is exactly kind of what New York needed or looks like it because, you know, I've talked about this, certainly when they made the pick, but all off season, this was a team that was absolutely abysmal against the run last year, despite having an incredible pass rush, I expect them to continue to have incredible pass rush, but they needed backers who could protect, protect their edges who are on the smaller side, Burns, Abdel Carter, who are awesome at getting after the quarterback and they didn't have that last year.

1:03:23And now it looks like they do. I mean, that's, that's literally, like just wouldn't his, ability his performance against the run in these two preseason games has been so encouraging for me to watch um it's exactly what you would hope to see if you're a giants fan so yeah arville reese looks awesome looks as advertised and looks entirely worthy of where he was picked i'd be

1:03:43Dan Pizzuta:pretty excited about it if i was a fan of new york yeah absolutely it's it's a a real fun front seven i think right now and uh i'm i'm excited to see you like and and we haven't really seen we saw a little bit with him like up at the line of scrimmage, but I still think there's more that they're going to be able to do disguising what he does. He's going to be one of those guys like you're mucking up in the A-gap and things like that. And what Denard Wilson's going to do with him during the regular season and seeing that he's already kind of just got it mentally in these preseason games is projecting what that can turn into.

1:04:18Dan Pizzuta:Could be really fun. All right. That's it for this week. Later this week, as I mentioned, going to have Robert Mason talk about work through things. I still haven't figured out about the NFL season. And I'm also going to be joined by the fantasy footballers to do the same thing, but for fantasy, which is we're doing a little bit more fantasy, not ton, but excited to have them on. Dan, where can folks find your work right now? I just said, follow me on a blue sky. We'll be doing some more Instagram stuff to you. Just Dan Pezuta everywhere. It's easy. I'm the only one. So if you're just looking for something, you can, you can find it there.

1:04:52Dan Pizzuta everywhere You also can read his work in the FTN Almanac Joined by Aaron Schatz later to talk about that It's always a must read But Dan is Available to continue writing about football anywhere So if you're listening to this and you're looking for incredible football Writers, one of the best in the biz Hit him up or hit me up and I'll connect you to him Thank you as always to everyone at Omaha Productions Kirsten Zubecki, Owen Saylor Jack Foster, Tucker Tashin And we'll be back later this week

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From the publisher

Dan Pizzuta joins Mina to break down everything that stood out from Week 2 of the NFL preseason! We discuss the latest surrounding 49ers owner Jed York being arrested and the Browns officially naming Deshaun Watson their starting quarterback for week 1. Then, Mina shares her takeaways from Fernando Mendoza’s second preseason game, concerns about the Raiders’ wide receiver room, and what to make of the Rams’ backup quarterback situation. Plus, quick reactions to the preseason performances of Jordan Love, Bo Nix, Jayden Daniels, Geno Smith, and Bryce Young before highlighting some more of the biggest preseason standouts from around the league.

Timecodes:

0:00 Welcome To The Mina Kimes Show Featuring Lenny!

1:00 49ers Owner Jed York Arrested

2:05 Browns Name Deshaun Watson Starting QB

15:38 Thoughts On Mendoza After 2nd Preseason Game

19:20 Raiders WRs Concerns

21:48 What To Make Of The Rams Backup QB Situation 

28:45 Quick Preseason QB Reactions: Jordan Love

32:05 Quick Preseason QB Reactions: Bo Nix

34:50 Quick Preseason QB Reactions: Jayden Daniels

38:15 Quick Preseason QB Reactions: Geno Smith

41:45 Quick Preseason QB Reactions: Bryce Young

45:00 Preseason Standouts: Rueben Bain Jr.

48:20 Preseason Standouts: R. Mason Thomas

50:50 Preseason Standouts: Jack Strand

55:24 Preseason Standouts: De’Zhaun Stribling

57:43 Preseason Standouts: Kyle Williams

58:43 Preseason Standouts: Arvell Reese

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