Super Bowl LX Recap: Seahawks Win!

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25:21Ben Solak:so it's a funny one to talk about the Seahawks offense because you're not that much to talk about in some way like there is but I mean the defense was so much the story of the game which is why I felt thought it was important we started with this one it was really interesting early on because the Patriots defense uh did some really interesting stuff early in this game I think when it you know like in terms of uh they answered some of the questions we had Gonzalez was very much covering jsn they played a lot of man i think i texted you i was like all man coverage on the first drive it felt like all man coverage first two drives um you hit me back we talked about how they would match the seahawks 12 personnel they played a lot of base which we discussed um and the seahawks were actually in a way that's not was not at all representative of their season unable to create explosives against that base defense largely because of pressure ben right like we talked about the seahawks on the pressure they got but darnold in this game 50 uh no that was may sorry darn this game still very high uh 43 pressure rate um he actually finished with i think a 50 completion percentage unless i'm wrong it was not very high

26:32Mina Kimes:but yeah 19 completions 38 attempts for darnold uh 5.3 yards per attempt which is their his worst game of the season save for the minnesota vikings game 34.1 offensive success rate when throwing the football worst game of the season regular or postseason for the seahawks offense patriots defense did their job baby they really did really really good the beginning of this game throughout

26:52Ben Solak:the game i thought despite being put in bad field position they made plays um there was a couple you know key moments the barner touchdown which is a cool design and also just kind of the very similar to like things we've seen from them all season long but this was not the bombs away seahawks offense from the nfc championship or the first half of the season uh it was a seahawks offense that I thought was much more in line with what we saw before the NFC Championship game. Kind of like similar to what we saw, I guess, against both games against the Niners almost, where Darnold avoided crucial mistakes.

27:26Ben Solak:It felt like earlier on he was going to get picked because the Patriots were playing everything so tight.

27:30Mina Kimes:I was so positive. Darnold, he was like just getting the ball out before he was getting hit. The ball was behind on the throws. He was behind on a lot of throws tonight,

27:39Ben Solak:including several of the Christian Gonzalez pass breakups. I thought he was buying what could have been a touchdown throw, one of the Gonzalez PBUs, another one. There was an out against like Palms coverage where the corner almost jumped it. So I was a little bit nervous, but they didn't – he didn't give them the football through hook or crook, and then he didn't fumble it. And he also didn't – he only took one sack. And I think if I had to pinpoint what was the biggest difference between him and May, and there's a lot of things, I think, and Collinsworth did hit this a fair amount during the game, he handled pressure a lot better than Drake May did in this game.

28:23Ben Solak:Which, you know, let's give some credit to Sam Darnold. His calling card, the thing that he has gotten the most heat for over the course of his NFL career is if you pressure him, he not only turns into a pumpkin, he panics, he does wildly bad things, and that happened at times during the regular season, not long ago. But Ben, in this game, like I said, 43 % pressure rate, just one sack. There were multiple times, too, where Milton Williams just came barreling through the A-gap. I can't believe it says he only had two pressures on Anthony Bradford. That doesn't feel accurate, whatever. And Darnold did a fantastic job of sidestepping pressure.

29:02Ben Solak:Sometimes he made plays, sometimes he didn't, but he didn't put the football on the ground. He didn't take many, he didn't take sacks. He didn't create negative plays. And so while I'm not going to sit here and tell you this was like a, you know, career altering performance, he defied the thing that had been used against him or the single biggest criticism against him of him, his entire football career. I do think he shed like reputationally in this game.

29:31Mina Kimes:16 pressure drop backs one sack no turnovers not even like it's all you need to do you know not even like ball fumbled but we picked it up and like well i certainly like you know gonzalez got like a hand like you know a hand and a half on that one jsn throwing you the goal line no like oh clear easy drop interceptions right this was an honorable negative erasing game right the way you brought up the way he played against interior pressure i thought he was so smooth and and and i thought he played with the awareness of the fact that his clock was going to get accelerated and he would have to work around in a way that may fail to right and that's your veteran maturity it's understanding all right i'm going to walk into this game knowing five eight of my reps are going to be chalked there's gonna be no hero plays on it's gonna be no big plays it's just gonna be about surviving for the next down in a way that may was never comfortable doing and donald was very comfortable doing the uh uh the down to down success rate the consistency was not there right i mean this was their worst offensive game by success rate but the explosive rate right they had seven explosive gains right kenneth walker on the runs they had a couple uh you know a big like you know 19 yard pass to shaheed they had the touchdown to barner that's what seattle's been in their bad games this season it's like hey down and down we're not good we're going three now but our defense keeps us in the field position battle and then eventually we've got a big play either by design or by one of our explosive athletes right one of the big reasons why to me kenneth walker was the mbp is because of the explosive runs he was creating or just keeping them on schedule he was going he was getting big chunks and so yeah you can survive having a bad success rate game a bad down to down game where they're getting pressure on you and They're forcing you to third alongs.

30:56Mina Kimes:You're forcing punts. If you don't turn over the football, so you don't lose field position and you hit on your explosives. And that is exactly the path that they followed. They followed like, again, in their bad games this year, the Vikings and the Panthers. That's exactly how they did it. And they followed it to a win. Understanding the script, man. Mike McDonald, good coach.

31:13Ben Solak:Kenneth Walker had five explosive runs in this game.

31:17Mina Kimes:That's a lot of explosive runs, man.

31:19Ben Solak:He joins. This is from our researcher, Matt Willis. I was asking for some stuff on this. uh he joins a company of three running backs of all time who have multiple 25 yard I know it's like a little specific whatever runs in a Super Bowl the other two are Marcus Allen and Timmy Smith um yeah I I do think he was a worthy MVP he kept not yeah like to your point um in a game where the passing game was pretty inefficient he was the most reliable thing they had going even though chris collins said he's not a good receiver which made me mad i actually thought that clint kubiak should have gone to him more through the passing game especially with all the base defense that knew and when they finally hit him for a screen i was like thank you for a big gain at one point um and they had two more screens that i think got eaten right where

32:09Mina Kimes:donald threw it away on one i think another one he even like dirtied it even faster like

32:13Ben Solak:patriots were ready for the patriots were doing something that i'm kind of disappointed myself for not talking about this more they were blitzing the seahawks play action a lot the all that like i think majority of the seahawks under center play action if it felt like sam had a pass pressure in his face uh he often did and they were also covering up his outlet you know when sam does those boots the seahawks usually give him like a flood concept or say you know whatever and they were doing a fantastic job of predicting what he wanted to do i thought they would have i thought klin kubiak as he has sometimes done would have hit them like a throwback screen you know like to take advantage of that aggression I didn't feel like you know they really had that many good answers against the Patriots blitz but as the game went on they came up with more and more of them Sacker was excellent in this one like we're talking about the coaching discrepancies the assistant coach of the year and coach of the year I have some issues with the defensive coordinator I thought was quite good um but yeah Walker was and like let's take a moment to just kind of celebrate what he's done this season because he's been on an absolute heater since Zach Charbonnet went down with an injury they were using them in a pure rotation much to the frustration of fantasy owners everywhere and uh he completely turned it on he had several gigantic performances as a receiver as well in the postseason by the way um I just love watching him run let me get like i just there was i think it was the one near the end of the game where he made the little cut or no it was the one where he was doing the levion thing behind the line yeah little tap tap tap tap you know ngs had that great stat which was i think was like he's spent the most time behind the line of scrimmage of any quarterback in like eight years before he crosses

33:53Mina Kimes:it yeah which he does like sometimes derogatory yeah because sometimes you're like brother go

34:00Ben Solak:some of that is scheme because they run so many stretch runs right so it naturally takes him a a little longer to get to the lightest scrimmage, but the combination of just like the patience, the vision, the burst, the acceleration, he's just really fun to watch and it's a contract year for him. So it'd be interesting to see what happens. Wild that JSN got hurt and it like didn't matter. I mean, outside of Cooper Cup was leading receiver, which is crazy. I guess like a lot of that happened at the end of the game felt like Barner had his customary wide open touchdown. That was a cool concept.

34:33Mina Kimes:the the red zone little little scissors in the red zone insert off the motion clink kubiak doesn't just scheme it up great in the red zone he does all the things like the nerds love talking about and he knows he'll get clipped it's good pr man releasing him through the tight end insert corner

34:49Ben Solak:you know um yeah so you know but it's really like the the seahawks passing game was just not at all the story of this game for me and like you know like i darnold was fine i mean like the best thing he did was protect the football quite frankly because he did miss some throws and he missed like the go ball to shaheed he missed uh a few but but you know it didn't matter because field position and uh and and the run game was what it was so yeah and when we zoom it out and when we

35:20Mina Kimes:zoom it out like one of the things that not only allowed the seahawks to make the quarterback move they did because even if it like still was geno smith and not sam donald like you know who knows all the different strands of history one of the things that allowed them to be more so in like the c tier the mid tier of quarterback options was the fact that hey like we have a defense that it's not just like you know can take over games for us whatever can truly like dominate games in terms of script and in terms of field position such that we can have these games where just it's just don't turn the football over right and that's you saw a lot of that from denver this season and then houston that season and well don't turn the football over then all of a sudden stroud has a bad turnover game and you see the way that falls apart and so there's a difference between like very good defense think like eagles level chargers level and then like elite defense in terms of the scripts that it allows you to play on the way it allows you to call plays and think about your offense right like there was a lot of meat left on the bone in the past a game big shaheed vertical the jsn or the shaheed pass breakup christian gonzalez where that ball was a little bit behind the jsn throw in the end zone where that ball was certainly behind like there were missed throws by sam and high leverage situations for a lot of yards but you have such a wide margin when you have a defense of this caliber and that's where like you know the seahawks beat the patriots in the super bowl without question had this been the broncos or the texans or the chargers or the bills man like the seahawks were just steamrolling cats and it's because this sort of a defense puts you in a game state that 31 other teams are just not comfortable playing i should say 30 really because the rams you know figure out how to get through it but 31 other

36:48Ben Solak:teams are just like not comfortable dealing with this state i don't understand how the rams were so good against the Seahawks and then like against like the Falcons and the Panthers.

37:00Mina Kimes:Right. Well, that's the thing is like we saw the right. We saw like this last Rams game, the NFC championship game. And then we see this terrible Patriots performance. Everybody's like, oh, my gosh. You know, Drake May off the line of Patriots. So terrible. It's all the schedule. Lest we forget the 49ers, we also got to see play two games against the Seahawks defense and just get deleted. And then they were fine against everybody else. Like this was not like a fine against everybody else.

37:21Ben Solak:The Diners had like a top five offense against everybody else. who was in Seattle.

37:24Mina Kimes:The Seahawks had exactly one issue this year, and it was not even the Rams. It was the Rams in games two and three. Game one, they kicked the Rams' tail.

37:32Ben Solak:It was just weird two games, but there happened to be two games that everybody watched.

37:37Mina Kimes:Exactly, and so I think our perspective on how achievable dynamic offense is against the Seahawks defense is dramatically warped by the game we watched two weeks ago. With that said, good God, the Patriots were bad on offense. They made a lot of mistakes and errors that they could have had an easier game and they could have had a better script and so on and so forth but anything taking credit away from the seahawks defense i have no interest

37:57Ben Solak:in hearing i know if stafford was as good against the seahawks as he was against like seven other like every other defense in the nfl it would have been like one of the best seasons in nfl it was just like weirdly amazing against this particular team but yeah for the most part this listen this is the best defense in football all season long that again and for those who are joining now by the way uh that's what we talked about the first half of this podcast if you're wondering why we've been talking more about the Seahawks offense. We started by talking about the Seahawks defensive dominance and everything that happened there.

38:28Ben Solak:I want to talk about the coaching now. Because I've been kind of snidely alluding to it with my coach of the year.

38:36Mina Kimes:You got to snidely allude. You got to snidely allude.

38:40Ben Solak:So we criticized Josh McDaniels, who I so, you know, again, we talked about in the first half for those who missed just some, I thought, puzzling choices in this game obviously the quarterback and the left tackle were you know significant problems but I think he didn't help Mike Vrabel also some very puzzling coaching Mike Vrabel Mike situational football Vrabel um okay so like off the top of my head there was one very egregious fourth down I thought it was like a fourth and one somewhere between the 40s where this was before the game got out of him. Maybe it was like 12 to zero. I could not believe he punted in that situation.

39:25Ben Solak:Near the end of the drive, or the end of the first half, I think it was, didn't call it timeouts, just complete give up situation.

39:32Mina Kimes:Yeah, let it roll.

39:33Ben Solak:They were down, when they were down 19 to seven, didn't go for it, go for two, pardon me, which if you had gone for two, would have been an 11 point game. So technically it's a, you know, you can get a, if you could put the eight to eight versus, there's no benefit. to being 12 points right it's two touchdowns you guys were two towns if you miss you guys were two touchdowns there's zero benefit pretty weird I thought like I you know uh just am I missing those are three things that come to my mind immediately where I was like what

40:04Mina Kimes:just a little bit perplexed yeah so there are there were no decisions on the NGS model on which the Patriots had like an extremely clear go for it save for the fourth and one on their four to one yard line in the third quarter right yeah that's the one where it's like okay listen well all of our win probabilities are going to be below 10 right we are we are chasing very thin outcomes here it's time to be aggressive they did not go for that they punted otherwise it's all toss-ups but you would have anticipated by the time we were getting you know middle of the second end of the second quarter early third quarter that we'd be willing to crank the aggressiveness up a little bit more and so like okay by the book egregious not necessarily within the context of like how bad you were on offense you'd really like just turn together a couple drives give your defense a break so on and so forth the two-point conversion buddy like yeah modeling the the modeling doesn't catch it great because it's still very low win probability either way so the like models don't think that it's necessary but from a heuristic perspective it's obviously clearly necessary to go for it because it it opens a door to a tie and an overtime outcome that doesn't exist otherwise and there's legitimately no drawback for not going for it so like uh you can't like if rabble's like oh you know our decision tree like that's what it said to do sure but this is one where you can

41:20Ben Solak:just look at the scoreboard and you can figure it out pretty easily that was fourth quarter 12 33

41:25Mina Kimes:left like come on you know like that yeah you're expecting maybe three drives left more likely to so crazily enough the seahawks only scored one touchdown this game just going back and looking

41:40Ben Solak:at that when that happened um yeah just again like you know he's obviously a great coach great season I get why people voted for him coach of the year Mike McDonald was my choice um and I'm not going to apply the same standard like it would be incredibly hypocritical of me to say this and then like you know discount the the Maeve Stratford thing regular season award this does Super Bowl doesn't matter for Mike Mays coach of the year choice just like whatever yeah but that you know we're just talking about this game right now and like I thought there were just some bad decisions by the Patriots coaching staff overall.

42:10Ben Solak:And I guess, you know, like that kind of brings me to the next thing about the Seahawks, which is they're going to lose. Remember their coaching staff, the offensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak. There's been very little smoke around who they're going to replace him with. Part of the difficulty of losing, making the Super Bowl and losing coaches. And the Eagles know this all too well, is it affects your choice of replacements, right? Because a lot of them are, Mike McDonald's not, Mike Daniel's not walking through that door. Maybe he'll change his mind. I don't know. But yeah, it's things, you know, Kenneth Walker is a free agent.

42:40Ben Solak:Rick Willen's a free agent. So let's go here.

42:48Ben Solak:Do you think the Seahawks team is in position to run a bag?

42:54Mina Kimes:Yes. Kenneth Walker, Boye Mafe, Rick Willen, like there's legitimate free agents, but they have the fourth most cap space right now in the NFL. They're going to be able to make moves. They could create more as well if they wanted to. uh they're like defensively the cool thing about really good like offense is well i say when you have really good offense it is easier for teams to spend some time in the offseason figuring out a good way to stop that offense it's actually harder to do that for really good defense because the whole point of good defense is that it's malleable it changes relative to the opponent so it's hard to be like all right you know we'll key in on this one thing like no they're going to be hiding that one thing against exactly you uh and so i i would expect them to be once again an extremely good defense next year.

43:33Mina Kimes:It's fair to say that they ran pure on offense in some key games this year, specifically thinking about some of these, these Rams performances. They had a great Sam game and they have championship game. And then obviously the week 16 game, everybody has this, you know, well covered how absurd that comeback was, but also like Sam had a remarkably above average turnover where they play right this season. You could get the exact same Sam season next year, regressed down on the turnover numbers and expect to be largely about as good, you know, in the passing game. I will say if they get the exact same season next year to JSN and they got this year, I will be stunned.

44:02Mina Kimes:That seems extremely hard to do, no matter how talented you are. Like this was a bonkers, preposterous season. So it'd be nice to feel a little bit better about wide receiver too, where they keep Shahid, who's also a free agent. Obviously, I don't think Cup's going to like suddenly become that at 32, 33. And so secondary pass catchers feels like a spot that could end up mattering a lot more next year because JSN just carried so much weight this season. But overall, yeah, Seattle's primed to absolutely be another NFC contender next year. As we very well know, that might mean they're the five seed because they lose to the Rams in the division, and then they lose in the first round of the playoffs on the bye.

44:30Mina Kimes:It doesn't guarantee anything, but this is going to be a good team for a little bit.

44:33Ben Solak:Yeah, the Rams are going to be good next year too. So I think, you know, I mean, we just felt like all season long, there was over the two best teams, not all season long, but I would say at the half point in the season was when a consensus started forming. And I know you and I talked about it a lot. It felt like those were the two best teams of football. And as we wrapped the season, that felt like the Super Bowl, right? I think we said that at the time. It was very reminiscent of the last Seahawks Super Bowl, quite frankly, when the NFC Championship against San Francisco felt like the real Super Bowl.

45:01And then they crushed Denver, as you remember.

45:04Ben Solak:And I wouldn't be surprised if we get stories coming out of this game where like after that Super Bowl, Super 48, the Super Bowl, all the stories that came out after were like, yeah, the Seahawks. I think I actually myself talked to Cam Chancellor about that. They're like, we knew we were going to kick their butts. like we knew it wasn't going to be close and i wouldn't be surprised if as things come out you know to after this one we see we hear similar stories from this defense of how they like watch the postseason and they felt like pretty confident that they were gonna they were gonna do it again

45:35Mina Kimes:but yeah um or they're gonna and deservedly so dude deservedly so yeah what a defense

45:42Ben Solak:defense is back i know everyone's like oh my game sucked oh it's so boring sorry

45:49Mina Kimes:i don't know i like i i had somebody who like as everybody knows like was a big jerk fan coming out of unc i've been a big jerk fan fan since he started in the league there's something extremely fun about watching a really good quarterback just get put in the walls of jericho dude like i like i remember the first few games like my homes was really struggling last year where it was like dude like i thought this guy was immortal and that bullets would bounce off him and it just doesn't happen anymore right there's any there's a great intensity a great seriousness to win defensive strike back against like really good elite quarterbacks elite offenses which i know may is not in that rarefied air just yet but like i i i enjoy those moments in which unsolvable

46:25Ben Solak:puzzles feel like they're getting solved this is what mike mcdonald does it's what he when i mean i know i started to keep hard being the 49ers but never i'll never forget and obviously this was a big part of why as you remember i was so thrilled with this this was he was who i wanted seattle to hire i was so like just please don't please donald you know and i'll never forget the it was either the christmas or close to christmas game against a niners offense that until they played baltimore ben you remember that year looks like a freaking wagon in this ravens defense under mike mcdonald went up against san francisco and just humbled them and four picks in that game and unfortunately for San Francisco like they've had the same result now against the Seattle defense and I think Brock Purdy is a good quarterback I'm not like low on him to your point but this is just that type of unit they're just really special they've made some really good defenses some really good offenses look extremely mediocre going back to last season but certainly this year and I know everybody's wants to talk about and then the schedule talk is fair and all of that but this was not a bad Patriots offense at all during the regular season.

47:39Ben Solak:It was very good, actually, and they played well against good defenses, and Seattle's just different, man. I'm just looking at the Seattle schedule. I mean, yeah, they just crushed teams. Shout out to Mike McDonald. What a season. What a coach. Rich Eisen here. The tax deadline will be here before you know it, and you just want to know your taxes are actually being handled. But the old way? You hand everything off, and then silence. days pass weeks pass you start wondering should I send another follow-up email it feels like you're chasing updates and getting nowhere but now taxes are different because your taxes are done for you by a TurboTax full-service expert with into a TurboTax you can match with your dedicated tax expert and hand off everything right in the app and while your expert checks for every deduction

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50:40Mina Kimes:questions and the only thing that people are talking about is your bet with your brother about getting a new tattoo that's the only question that was that we didn't do a new

50:46Ben Solak:a new tattoo that uh i think i'm good i'm like too old to get new tattoos i only have like room on this arm this one hurt too by the way i have a few yeah this one really hurt yeah i mean maybe

50:59Mina Kimes:i'm like a baby but the issue is if you get a second one you go same bicep or other bicep

51:05Ben Solak:i would add it to this arm i have one here and i've always kind of wanted like more of a sleeve

51:09Mina Kimes:situation at some point we just said mcdonald can be you know continuing to do this at some point where you're just going to have various Roman numerals and odd angles across your arms. And it's going to go less hardcore and more very, very weird looking.

51:20Ben Solak:The real question is, what would it take for Ben to get a tattoo? Can we make a tattoo pact right here? You could pick something that would never happen, like a very obscure thing, so that we and the listeners can root for it forever.

51:35Mina Kimes:Okay, so two years ago...

51:37Ben Solak:I'm reading the comment. Commenters, drop some suggestions, please. I'm looking right now.

51:40Mina Kimes:Two years ago, Eagles win the Super Bowl, which by the way this podcast is is the outgoing champs and the incoming champs right now okay award-winning munich hives podcast lombardi trophies in the case you want your team yeah eagles win it last year seahawks win it this year i guess if jalen hurts wins the super bowl for the seattle seahawks i will get at that too of that exact thing that way the two worlds come together and collide there you go there's my absurd thing that'll never happen unless the

52:04Ben Solak:seahawks play the eagles and jalen hurts no to say jalen hurts turns the football over and thus wins it for the Seahawks.

52:11Mina Kimes:I mean, Seahawks, Eagles, Super Bowl might be really tough given the way the conferences are currently aligned, but I like where your head's at.

52:19Ben Solak:You know, things can change. Yeah, anyways, thank you to everybody who tuned in. Mostly nice comments. Some pretty funny ones. And thank you, of course, to Ben for joining us all season long, doing such a great job joining me last week and this week as well. Are you wearing a Super Bowl sweatshirt, by the way?

52:43Mina Kimes:I am. I'm wearing my Super Bowl hoodie that I got. And I realized after my family went to bed, the girls went to bed, that all of my nice clothes that I usually wear for the podcast were in a bedroom with a sleeping baby and a sleeping mom. And I did the cost benefit on going up and sneaking there and getting dressed. And I was like, no, I'm doing the Super Bowl pod in a hoodie. And I feel poor about that. I wanted to be dressed to the nines to attend the Minakheim celebration. And instead, I'm hooded up. Well, Ben, you're the gold standard.

53:08Ben Solak:honestly thank you so much for all the work you've done this season incredible incredible job this has been really fun our second year covering this league together so thank you everybody say something say something nice about ben in the comments i'm like that meme where the tiktok person stands in front of their say something nice you know my boyfriend's gonna show you something um don't don't tell him he looks like ben shapiro and uh can i ask i have one mina kai'm seahawks

53:32Mina Kimes:fan related question i'm curious about because going back to that eagles super bowl when they hit the davante throw the dagger that's when i knew was there a moment when did you when did you

53:41Ben Solak:know when were you like look at my notes that's a great question it was pretty early i'm not gonna

53:46Mina Kimes:lie because there's that right well that's the thing is that like sometimes like for me like against the chiefs they were up whatever 26 to nothing and i was like they could still lose this you know like i was terrified the whole time that game i felt like the you could feel the noose kind of the whole way you can feel that they are coming out of it so i'm curious for you when were you This is going to sound so disrespectful.

54:05Ben Solak:It was the second Patriots drive.

54:07Mina Kimes:That's so, that's reprehensible. That's horrible.

54:12Ben Solak:It was even after the booty throw, but it was when, and after Job on second down had the tackle, I think that was third, when the Witherspoon, I think that was probably his first blitz of the game from Will Campbell's side when he sacked Drake May. I thought, oh, they got on it. like well i hate to say this but i was like there's nothing will campbell can do in this game they're just they've literally drawn a giant circle around him and it's just gonna be hell

54:40Mina Kimes:and unless highlighting a play that happened on the paint on the seahawks side of the 50 as i knew this is when the score was three to nothing that's ballsy i also just again him

54:51Ben Solak:calling the blitz he hadn't been blitzing witherspoon on that side going after campbell I was like, oh, Mike McDonald has literally, we need a new meme because Kashan has the microscope on linebackers. We need a Mike McDonald equivalent for offensive linemen where he's just like circling them with a giant red Sharpie. But yeah, I thought this offense is going to, I was worried about Sam turning it over at various points during the game. And honestly, he did come close a few times, but avoided it. But that, that I thought this offense, I just don't think this offensive line has it in this one. And the CX defense, you know, they're playing too well.

55:24Mina Kimes:So, well, that, listen, if 56 minutes of game clock, you knew the Seahawks were winning the game. That's an enjoyable watch. So congratulations to you on a nice carefree Super Bowl. That's a blast.

55:34Ben Solak:I was relaxed. Thank you as always, but also to the folks at Omaha Productions who make this show. They are amazing. Kirsten Sebecki, who was not able to join us for the Super Bowl because transportation system is a problem, but we love her. Owen Saylor, Tucker Tashin, Jack Foster. You guys are the best. This is going to be it for me this week. I'm going to take the rest of the week out. This is the only podcast I'm doing this week. Congrats. But the NFL never sleeps, y 'all. Draft season is upon us. I am going to do this, go to Disneyland tomorrow, and then you know what I'm doing on Tuesday?

56:13Mina Kimes:What are we doing?

56:14Ben Solak:Watching Fernando Mendoza, baby. See y 'all on the other side.

56:19Mina Kimes:Gross. I've already watched him.

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